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Re: Dragon Age trailer
« Reply #60 on: July 13, 2008, 04:19:19 PM »
And you have to remember that the first game in a series more often than not has the least amount of content simply because they have to work on the engine.  Now that UE3 is fully optimized for ME, Bioware can focus more on content and have a longer game.  This happens all the time.

Maybe they should have given it some more time to actually get some content in then? Seriously now, that's the worst excuse for a lack of content that I've ever come across.

No, it's not.  Proprietary engines can take as long as 18 to 24 months to create.  A normal dev time for a AAA title is 2 to 3 years, so the first game in a series almost always has the shortest length.  In ME's case, they were able to license out UE3 but they still had to do a ton of optimizations and asset creation.  Now that much of that stuff is out of the way, I fully expect ME2 to be bigger and better.
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« Reply #61 on: July 13, 2008, 04:20:49 PM »
How is 20-25 hours for the main quest too short?  Come on..

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« Reply #62 on: July 13, 2008, 04:25:32 PM »
And you have to remember that the first game in a series more often than not has the least amount of content simply because they have to work on the engine.  Now that UE3 is fully optimized for ME, Bioware can focus more on content and have a longer game.  This happens all the time.

Maybe they should have given it some more time to actually get some content in then? Seriously now, that's the worst excuse for a lack of content that I've ever come across.

No, it's not.  Proprietary engines can take as long as 18 to 24 months to create.  A normal dev time for a AAA title is 2 to 3 years, so the first game in a series almost always has the shortest length.  In ME's case, they were able to license out UE3 but they still had to do a ton of optimizations and asset creation.  Now that much of that stuff is out of the way, I fully expect ME2 to be bigger and better.

That's still a shitty excuse. A really, really shitty one. If the alloted time isn't enough for development of tech and content, then more time or resources needs to be alloted. And it's not like content creation stands still while the technological base is crafted, so if anything it'd then appear to be a managerial shortcoming. Regardless, actually falling in line and making such an excuse for the company, that's just rot.

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« Reply #63 on: July 13, 2008, 04:28:54 PM »
It's not a shitty excuse.

Take a look at a game like Uncharted.  ND's proprietary ICE engine no doubt took over a year just to develop. That's a big chunk out of the dev time used on engine creation and optimization that won't be required for the sequel.  Your suggestion of just allotting another year or two to the dev time simply isn't reasonable, financially. 
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« Reply #64 on: July 13, 2008, 04:33:40 PM »
It's not a shitty excuse.

Take a look at a game like Uncharted.  ND's proprietary ICE engine no doubt took over a year just to develop. That's a big chunk out of the dev time used on engine creation and optimization that won't be required for the sequel.  Your suggestion of just allotting another year or two to the dev time simply isn't reasonable, financially. 

That's not my problem. Games shipping with precious little content, that is my problem, as a consumer. As is the problem with other consumers making excuses for the developer.

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« Reply #65 on: July 13, 2008, 04:36:23 PM »
oh hey

the witcher has an update with new stand alone quests which act as prologue to the main game

that's neat.
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« Reply #66 on: July 14, 2008, 02:56:51 AM »
mass effect biggest fault is the total lack of varieties.

almost all areas in the main quest are buildings and shit and they are all small.

and the planets are all empty and barren with one building which is the same as any other planet.

I actually love the empty feel of the planets, this is how I imagine them to look like in the first 50-100 years of space colonization. Some mines, some labs and a fucking vast of nothing in between.

The only thing that bothers me is how they use the SAME FUCKING ROOM AND DUNGEON design for dungeons on different planets. I mean Jesus, how hard is it to make a map in UE3? Takes one day.

This is unfair of me, but I really wish that Mass Effect took some sort of cue from Star Control 2 and Star Flight.  Flying around the planets reminded me of that.  Why has no one tried to update those games for modern computers?
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« Reply #67 on: July 14, 2008, 09:43:03 AM »


Gameplay screen. It's got the BG2/NWN1 interface vibe down pretty well. Still am very much in the "sort of want" category ever since I got the epic burn from Bioware when I got Mass Defect PC.
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« Reply #68 on: July 14, 2008, 09:59:25 AM »
The Diablo 3 color haters should like that screen...
What happened to this camera style?

I hope it's adjustable to that level for running around towns and stuff.

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« Reply #69 on: July 14, 2008, 10:58:28 AM »
ok, this game just shot up my WANT list

ASoIaF inspired world/story? check
top down RPG? check x100000000

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Re: Dragon Age trailer
« Reply #70 on: July 14, 2008, 05:56:43 PM »
[youtube=425,350]A4fOybHb5bc[/youtube]

i laughed

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« Reply #71 on: July 14, 2008, 06:04:09 PM »
The comments on that video rule:

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It is well known that fireballs only go to 1500 degrees, while the temperature to melt adamantine-reinforced concrete is above 3000 degrees. Then why are there adamantine pools on the ground? Mithril charges placed by the elven demolition teams commissioned by His Majesty.

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No blood for mithril!
Fere£££den's hunger for Remarian mithril is the cause of many deaths, His Majesty must stop this travesty.

7/13 Never Forget!

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Did you know that 1400 elves didn't show up for tower that day? It's quite clear, really, you just have to open your eyes, sheeple. The elves control the Town Criers, so of course the sheeple will believe whatever they're told.

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Whatever, everyone knows that fireballs travel using scram physics and so there would be a forwards low pressure atomspheric hole which would pull the blocks of the arch towards it with force. This is what happens, the bricks clearly fly towards the fireball as it approaches. The flash is also easily explained as the result of the arch's very delicate magical structure being damaged which causes energy to be rapidly released.

You kids need to stop doing the drugs and stay in school.

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« Reply #72 on: July 14, 2008, 06:09:27 PM »
Is this just pc or consoles too?

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« Reply #73 on: July 14, 2008, 06:10:54 PM »
mass effect biggest fault is the total lack of varieties.

almost all areas in the main quest are buildings and shit and they are all small.

and the planets are all empty and barren with one building which is the same as any other planet.

I actually love the empty feel of the planets, this is how I imagine them to look like in the first 50-100 years of space colonization. Some mines, some labs and a fucking vast of nothing in between.

The only thing that bothers me is how they use the SAME FUCKING ROOM AND DUNGEON design for dungeons on different planets. I mean Jesus, how hard is it to make a map in UE3? Takes one day.

This is unfair of me, but I really wish that Mass Effect took some sort of cue from Star Control 2 and Star Flight.  Flying around the planets reminded me of that.  Why has no one tried to update those games for modern computers?

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« Reply #74 on: July 14, 2008, 06:30:21 PM »
Looks like Baldur's Gate 3 alright.

FUCKTON of whiners and haters from page 1 owned.

Draft owned. White Man owned. Doubters owned.

:bow :bow :bow BioWare :bow2 :bow2 :bow2

Hopefully I'm owned.  They still haven't made a great game in like 8 years.
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Re: Dragon Age trailer
« Reply #75 on: July 14, 2008, 06:32:31 PM »
Looks like Baldur's Gate 3 alright.

FUCKTON of whiners and haters from page 1 owned.

Draft owned. White Man owned. Doubters owned.

:bow :bow :bow BioWare :bow2 :bow2 :bow2

Hopefully I'm owned.  They still haven't made a great game in like 8 years.

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I thought people loved Mass Effect
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Re: Dragon Age trailer
« Reply #76 on: July 14, 2008, 06:34:21 PM »
people love batman begins

doesn't mean it's any good
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« Reply #77 on: July 14, 2008, 06:41:36 PM »
Looks like Baldur's Gate 3 alright.

FUCKTON of whiners and haters from page 1 owned.

Draft owned. White Man owned. Doubters owned.

:bow :bow :bow BioWare :bow2 :bow2 :bow2

Hopefully I'm owned.  They still haven't made a great game in like 8 years.

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I thought people loved Mass Effect

http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/913957.asp

Shitty and mediocre things get overrated all the time.
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« Reply #78 on: July 14, 2008, 07:23:06 PM »
coming to consoles

Greg Zeschuk from Bioware just got onstage to demo Dragon Age: Origins for us. YAY!!!  "The foundation of another great franchise on the PC" he just said, "and in the future on the consoles."

http://www.1up.com/do/blogEntry?bId=8805099&publicUserId=5380367

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« Reply #79 on: July 14, 2008, 07:29:52 PM »
HA

only PC gamers will know the full story

when Dragon Age 2 comes out, console people will be scratching their heads unable to tie together the diffuse storyline elements

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« Reply #80 on: July 14, 2008, 10:16:01 PM »
coming to consoles

Greg Zeschuk from Bioware just got onstage to demo Dragon Age: Origins for us. YAY!!!  "The foundation of another great franchise on the PC" he just said, "and in the future on the consoles."

http://www.1up.com/do/blogEntry?bId=8805099&publicUserId=5380367

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« Reply #81 on: July 14, 2008, 10:37:07 PM »
Ho ho ho. Designed from the ground up for the console port.

Rigfags suiciding. Borys PM me if things get serious, OK buddy  :lol

Mass Effect > Console bastardized Balduer's Gate :lol

Good day to be a fan of Bioware's superior console efforts, I'll tell you that much.

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« Reply #82 on: July 14, 2008, 11:04:21 PM »
:bow Bioware :bow2

i should play baldurs gate again sometime
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« Reply #83 on: July 14, 2008, 11:08:04 PM »
bah, nothing about that screenshot looks console-ified. The franchise may well ultimately feature games for both PCs and consoles but i'm hoping that the PC series will remain distinct.
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« Reply #84 on: July 15, 2008, 01:32:23 AM »
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

There's room for you in my grimy fuck dumpster, too, Boris.  You can hop in with me and drohne now, or you can wait until Bioware is making waggle games.  The choice is yours.
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« Reply #85 on: July 15, 2008, 01:36:17 AM »
Dragon Age being another bastardized console game makes me so glad that I still haven't played Throne of Bhaal.  It's the last great game from Bioware. 

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« Reply #86 on: July 15, 2008, 02:45:37 AM »
Boris, I yearn for your European skin.  I want you to experience my flesh before I experience yours.  Let's plan it like that in our own little Dragon Age.
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« Reply #87 on: July 15, 2008, 03:54:17 AM »
<3 Bioware, sorry Borys  :ussrcry
The Diablo 3 color haters should like that screen...
What happened to this camera style?
(Image removed from quote.)
I hope it's adjustable to that level for running around towns and stuff.
Screen from the console version?
« Last Edit: July 15, 2008, 03:57:53 AM by Tieno »
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« Reply #88 on: July 18, 2008, 03:08:05 PM »
Well, the future console versions help explain the shit-tastic graphics and LOTR cutscenes.

At least we will get free DLC.  :-\ (maybe?)


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« Reply #89 on: July 18, 2008, 03:14:57 PM »
<3 Bioware, sorry Borys  :ussrcry
The Diablo 3 color haters should like that screen...
What happened to this camera style?
(Image removed from quote.)
I hope it's adjustable to that level for running around towns and stuff.
Screen from the console version?
Now that I've watched actual gameplay video from here...
http://games.tiscali.cz/news/news.asp?id=28468
...I can see that it's just an adjustable camera.

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Re: Dragon Age trailer
« Reply #90 on: July 18, 2008, 03:21:58 PM »
Two Worlds > Dragon Age
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Re: Dragon Age trailer
« Reply #91 on: July 18, 2008, 05:29:28 PM »
Two Worlds > Dragon Age

The main draw of Two Worlds was the unintentional humor.
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Re: Dragon Age trailer
« Reply #92 on: July 18, 2008, 10:21:09 PM »
<3 Bioware, sorry Borys  :ussrcry
The Diablo 3 color haters should like that screen...
What happened to this camera style?
(Image removed from quote.)
I hope it's adjustable to that level for running around towns and stuff.
Screen from the console version?

I actually like that screen above much more than the rest of the screens they've showed, for some reason.
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« Reply #93 on: July 18, 2008, 10:22:46 PM »
The Diablo 3 color haters should like that screen...
What happened to this camera style?
(Image removed from quote.)
I hope it's adjustable to that level for running around towns and stuff.

I think it might still be in.  You can zoom in pretty far.