I love my new Focus SES, but man I wish they sold these here...

[MrAngryFace]

Nice, how much did it set you back after all fees, taxes, etc.?

18k, not including the 75k bumper to bumper plan. After spending 2000 on my car last year, spending 1750 for up to 75,000 in bumper to bumper doesnt seem so bad.

[MrAngryFace]

Around these parts, the biggest chick cars are the RSX, the Eclipse, and the Jetta... oh yes, the Jetta, the car of choice for the Long Island JAPs. And around these parts, all the cool people drive TL's 

If I buy a car next summer (which I am planning to do as long as gas is not 10 dollars a gallon), it will probably be a pretty pimped Jetta or Golf/Rabbit.  I like the look of and the basic numbers of the Dodge Challenger for a relatively low-priced car.  I'd want to look into that more, though.

Challenger is pretty expensive if you want a V8, and the Camaro's V6 trounces the Challengers.

What's the mileage on the Camaro?  The only reason that I'm seriously considering a Challenger is because it's at the 30mpg highway mark.

If you get a Jetta look into the new turbodiesel they're offering with like 50mpg.

I'd have to worry about diesel gas coverage in my area, though, and although I haven't gone out of my way to see how many stations have diesel, I have a feeling it's not that many.

Most stations have at least one diesel pump.

[AdmiralViscen]

Around these parts, the biggest chick cars are the RSX, the Eclipse, and the Jetta... oh yes, the Jetta, the car of choice for the Long Island JAPs. And around these parts, all the cool people drive TL's 

If I buy a car next summer (which I am planning to do as long as gas is not 10 dollars a gallon), it will probably be a pretty pimped Jetta or Golf/Rabbit.  I like the look of and the basic numbers of the Dodge Challenger for a relatively low-priced car.  I'd want to look into that more, though.

Challenger is pretty expensive if you want a V8, and the Camaro's V6 trounces the Challengers.

What's the mileage on the Camaro?  The only reason that I'm seriously considering a Challenger is because it's at the 30mpg highway mark.

If you get a Jetta look into the new turbodiesel they're offering with like 50mpg.

I'd have to worry about diesel gas coverage in my area, though, and although I haven't gone out of my way to see how many stations have diesel, I have a feeling it's not that many.

There are no mileage figures available for the Camaro yet, but it uses the same direct injection 3.6L v6 that gets 17/26 in the CTS. Are you sure the Challenger is getting 30mpg with the 3.5L? The Charger doesn't and I don't think Challenger EPA figures are out for the 3.5L. The Charger gets 17/24 with the same engine.

ALmost every station has diesel in NY, you sure?


edit: Even the Avenger only hits 30mpg with the 4cyl, v6 is 27mpg. http://www.fueleconomy.gov/FEG/bymake/Dodge2008.shtml

And I'm pretty sure there are no EPA figures for the 3.5L Challenger sincit's not coming out til next year. It's a very large vehicle, there's no way it's hiting 30mpg in any configuration.

[MrAngryFace]

Im pretty sure most stations have diesel to accomodate big rigs

[ferrarimanf355]

TVC, the mileage numbers I'm hearing for the Camaro are about on par with the Challenger and Mustang. We won't know for sure until Monday at 4 PM EST...

[Phoenix Dark]

Who cares - it's a car. All I care about is the gas mileage. I'd drive a pink sock if it gave me 50 miles a gallon

[MrAngryFace]

Its a bitchin car. First day I had it I had people wanting to talk to me about it in parking lots. Not a lot of 2008 focuses on the road around here yet.

[Pharmacy]

big american muscle cars are utter shit anywhere other than a straight line

even when ford made the ford gt they couldnt do a supercar right

[MrAngryFace]

Yeah, im not sure im going to subject any muscle car to 5 days a week of stop and go. What a waste that would be.

[DJ_Tet]

I have a Civic DX and love it.

I also love getting 400 miles in a 10+ gallon tank with A/C.


To be fair, a normal driver would be getting about 300-320 miles per tank in my car.  I drive like a gas conserving nazi recently.  I have this shit down to a science.  I can still take off in my car if I need to, though.

[AdmiralViscen]

big american muscle cars are utter shit anywhere other than a straight line

even when ford made the ford gt they couldnt do a supercar right

This isn't 1965 anymore.

The Camaro is just a shorter, lighter Pontiac G8 which already hangs with the 5 series.

[Mupepe]

big american muscle cars are utter shit anywhere other than a straight line

even when ford made the ford gt they couldnt do a supercar right

This isn't 1965 anymore.

The Camaro is just a shorter, lighter Pontiac G8 which already hangs with the 5 series.

seriously.

big american muscle cars

[patrickula]

Can't you love both muscle cars and hot hatchbacks?  Foreign and domestic?  I know I do, when the car itself is good!
  :germanycry

[MrAngryFace]

Im not big on hatchbacks, but thats mostly cuz I like a car with some room for other people.

[MrAngryFace]

Yeah bitches, I love this car. I can verbally command it to play songs on my ipod. Booyah

[ferrarimanf355]

big american muscle cars are utter shit anywhere other than a straight line

even when ford made the ford gt they couldnt do a supercar right

The Camaro has a fully independent suspension that originated from the Pontiac G8. 

[Pharmacy]

big american muscle cars are utter shit anywhere other than a straight line

even when ford made the ford gt they couldnt do a supercar right

The Camaro has a fully independent suspension that originated from the Pontiac G8. 

id still love to see it round a track, bet the back-end gets thrown out everytime you go around a corner