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« on: August 14, 2008, 07:01:31 PM »
HW
DS 608k
Wii 555k
Playstation 3 225k
PSP 222k
Xbox 360 205k
Playstation 2 155k

Top 10 SW
360 NCAA FOOTBALL 09 ELECTRONIC ARTS JULY 2008 397.6K
WII FIT W/ BALANCE BOARD NINTENDO OF AMERICA MAY 2008 369.6K
NDS GUITAR HERO: ON TOUR ACTIVISION JUNE 2008 309.7K
WII PLAY W/ REMOTE NINTENDO OF AMERICA FEB 2007 284K
PS3 NCAA FOOTBALL 09 ELECTRONIC ARTS JULY 2008 242.5K
360 SOUL CALIBUR IV NAMCO BANDAI GAMES OF AMERICA JULY 2008 218.9K
WII MARIO KART W/ WHEEL NINTENDO OF AMERICA APRIL 2008 174.5K
WII ROCK BAND SPECIAL ED BUNDLE MTV GAMES/ELECTRONIC ARTS JUNE 2008 165.8K
PS3 SOUL CALIBUR IV NAMCO BANDAI GAMES OF AMERICA JULY 2008 155.8K
360 SID MEIER'S CIVILIZATION REVOLUTION TAKE 2 INT. CORP. JULY 2008 147.6K

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« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2008, 07:06:50 PM »
damn even with a fire sale they got pwned.

anyways good to see scvi make the top 10.

i'm shocked that the 360 version sold better then the ps3 version. truly shocked.

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« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2008, 07:11:33 PM »
The 360 a sinking ship? Seems so.

This strategy of no real price cuts, plus adding more storage to justify not dropping price is going to kill the 360.  It's just a stupid strategy.  The filthy masses care more about the price than how big the hard drive is.
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« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2008, 07:15:32 PM »
Supposedly that 60 gig is going to drop in price to $299 at the end of September

Pro system needs to be $250 at this point, three years in
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« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2008, 07:16:23 PM »
without a MGS4 every month, PS3 is doooooooomed

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« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2008, 07:17:12 PM »
Where's FFIV  :'(
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« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2008, 07:17:40 PM »
Not terrible showing for CivRev given that the PS3 version probably wasn't too far behind. It'll still sell about a quarter of what Civ4 sold on the PC when all is said and done, though.
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« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2008, 07:18:07 PM »
ps3 is selling because of blu ray, still the best buy for a player out there

it isn't coming down in price any time soon, either - aren't they still losing close to $200 on every unit?

if people were buying ps3 for the games, ps3 games would be, uh, selling
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« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2008, 07:19:20 PM »
Where's FFIV  :'(

On the moon.


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« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2008, 07:19:39 PM »
Where's FFIV  :'(

In the garbage, where it should be
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« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2008, 07:21:25 PM »
The 360 a sinking ship? Seems so.

This strategy of no real price cuts, plus adding more storage to justify not dropping price is going to kill the 360.  It's just a stupid strategy.  The filthy masses care more about the price than how big the hard drive is.

Then why is the PS3 selling?

Sorry, I shouldn't have said this is solely MS's problem--it's Sony's, too.

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« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2008, 07:21:58 PM »
ps3 is selling because of blu ray, still the best buy for a player out there

it isn't coming down in price any time soon, either - aren't they still losing close to $200 on every unit?

if people were buying ps3 for the games, ps3 games would be, uh, selling
360 SOUL CALIBUR IV NAMCO BANDAI GAMES OF AMERICA JULY 2008 218.9K
PS3 SOUL CALIBUR IV NAMCO BANDAI GAMES OF AMERICA JULY 2008 155.8K

360 NCAA FOOTBALL 09 ELECTRONIC ARTS JULY 2008 397.6K
PS3 NCAA FOOTBALL 09 ELECTRONIC ARTS JULY 2008 242.5K

LTD in US:
360 10.67 mil
PS3 5.081 mil

i don't see how you can claim ps3 users aren't buying games.  

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« Reply #12 on: August 14, 2008, 07:22:49 PM »
ps3 is selling because of blu ray, still the best buy for a player out there

it isn't coming down in price any time soon, either - aren't they still losing close to $200 on every unit?

if people were buying ps3 for the games, ps3 games would be, uh, selling

Its not that they're not selling, its just that they're not selling as much as 360 games.

it's what they're depending on for profit from the system, though, so it still has to be a bit troubling to them
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« Reply #13 on: August 14, 2008, 07:24:40 PM »
ps3 is selling because of blu ray, still the best buy for a player out there

it isn't coming down in price any time soon, either - aren't they still losing close to $200 on every unit?

if people were buying ps3 for the games, ps3 games would be, uh, selling
360 SOUL CALIBUR IV NAMCO BANDAI GAMES OF AMERICA JULY 2008 218.9K
PS3 SOUL CALIBUR IV NAMCO BANDAI GAMES OF AMERICA JULY 2008 155.8K

360 NCAA FOOTBALL 09 ELECTRONIC ARTS JULY 2008 397.6K
PS3 NCAA FOOTBALL 09 ELECTRONIC ARTS JULY 2008 242.5K

LTD in US:
360 10.67 mil
PS3 5.081 mil

i don't see how you can claim ps3 users aren't buying games.  

they are buying select games, yes, but they are nowhere near the attach rate of 360, and that's where the money is
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« Reply #14 on: August 14, 2008, 07:25:44 PM »
i just realized i don't give a fuck about any of this

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« Reply #15 on: August 14, 2008, 07:33:32 PM »
I don't follow these number things too much, but why would people buy buying a 360 in July? preparing for Braid or Too Human? hell no.  I think this month, or more in October, the sales will be huge.  Gears 2 will be a monster seller.

And seeing the gaf thread, I can't help but get confused again by this huge ass Star Trek gif.  Is it because I don't watch Star Trek that I don't understand why it is funny?

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« Reply #16 on: August 14, 2008, 07:36:09 PM »
Damn, MGS4 died. Year of the PS3 continues.

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« Reply #17 on: August 14, 2008, 07:37:17 PM »
i think there's an okay chance MGS4 would be on the list if they included the bundled software. 

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« Reply #18 on: August 14, 2008, 07:37:24 PM »
Next gen gaming limps onward!
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« Reply #19 on: August 14, 2008, 07:38:43 PM »
i think there's an okay chance MGS4 would be on the list if they included the bundled software. 
Nah, it'd be pushed down because then Wii Sports would be on the list.  ::)
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« Reply #20 on: August 14, 2008, 07:40:33 PM »
i think there's an okay chance MGS4 would be on the list if they included the bundled software. 
Nah, it'd be pushed down because then Wii Sports would be on the list.  ::)
probably.  totally forgot they were still bundling wii sports.  longest bundle ever? 

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« Reply #21 on: August 14, 2008, 07:48:52 PM »
Man, just think how PS3 might be doing if there was more quality software available for it.
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« Reply #22 on: August 14, 2008, 07:50:38 PM »
I'm about to buy a PS3, which will be primarily used to play bluray movies. So +1

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Re: NPDNESS
« Reply #23 on: August 14, 2008, 07:52:17 PM »
:rofl :rofl :rofl @ MGS4 "sales"
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« Reply #24 on: August 14, 2008, 07:55:51 PM »
People who want to buy 360's are in vacation..

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« Reply #25 on: August 14, 2008, 08:04:15 PM »
Sony needs to have a LBP bundle.  It'll make PS3s FLY OFF SHELVES (and give me a reason to buy a PS3).

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« Reply #26 on: August 14, 2008, 08:05:55 PM »
What a flop for Metal Gear. Snake Snaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaake

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« Reply #27 on: August 14, 2008, 08:07:11 PM »
:lol natives are getting upset at the hive when you mention MGS4
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« Reply #28 on: August 14, 2008, 08:07:37 PM »
I think it's probably good for gaming that a reasonably priced PS3 is beating the Xbox 360. Good for gaming's future.

It's also good for gaming's future that MGS4 has disappeared from the charts worldwide. We don't need more stuff like that being made.

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« Reply #29 on: August 14, 2008, 08:11:11 PM »
:lol natives are getting upset at the hive when you mention MGS4


yes pilon you are the master of spinning

because Metal Gear uncharting is spin.  :lol

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« Reply #30 on: August 14, 2008, 08:11:26 PM »
Good for the PS3, beating the 360.

:rofl at MGS4 dropping.

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« Reply #31 on: August 14, 2008, 08:11:53 PM »
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« Reply #32 on: August 14, 2008, 08:15:16 PM »
Good for the PS3, beating the 360.

:rofl at MGS4 dropping.

PS3 MOMENTUM IS RISING

ONLY 20 YEARS AND THEY WILL HAVE CAUGHT UP :hyper
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« Reply #33 on: August 14, 2008, 08:22:56 PM »
Good for the PS3, beating the 360.

:rofl at MGS4 dropping.

PS3 MOMENTUM IS RISING

ONLY 20 YEARS AND THEY WILL HAVE CAUGHT UP :hyper

PS3 TEN YEAR LIFECYCLE >> 360 FIVE YEAR

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« Reply #34 on: August 14, 2008, 08:27:03 PM »
Not surprised about MGS4.  The game doesn't really have any replay value, FOR ME.

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« Reply #35 on: August 14, 2008, 08:28:01 PM »
i don't expect PS3 to ever really start closing the gap until the PS3 is more competitively priced with 360 (if that's possible).  but the fact that the +$100 PS3 "with no games" (:lol) has been pretty consistently outselling 360 for 2008 is pretty impressive for PS3.  unless sony drops price, i expect 360 to take back the NPDs this fall, but that could very well turn right back around in early-mid 2009.  


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« Reply #36 on: August 14, 2008, 08:29:05 PM »
Not surprised about MGS4.  The game doesn't really have any replay value, FOR ME.
i just find it funny that MGS4 was supposed to not move any hardware...  and then it was dubbed as the only thing holding PS3 sales up...  and yet PS3 hardware is still selling without MGS4 sales. 


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« Reply #37 on: August 14, 2008, 08:38:13 PM »
An awful lot of gloating in that thread for a 280k YTD lead in sales.

MGS4 not making the top ten isn't surprising in the least. Its got the hardcore following and that's about it.

It also wouldn't surprise me if the 360 is still $350 at the end of the year. MS isn't going to lose boatloads of money on their system this time around. And with the entertainment division losing money last quarter I highly doubt we'll see a price drop - especially when they're roughly equal in sales to Sony. They're banking on GoW2 and F2 to push the system at that price point.


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« Reply #38 on: August 14, 2008, 08:47:24 PM »
Haven't been following along, but did the 360 have a price drop recently or no?

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« Reply #39 on: August 14, 2008, 08:47:44 PM »
A price cut will come the month that Avatars will come out.

Bank on that.

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« Reply #40 on: August 14, 2008, 08:48:28 PM »
Haven't been following along, but did the 360 have a price drop recently or no?

20Gig SKU dropped 50 bucks its not a price cut more like clearing of channels pre a new sku ala price drops before PS3 40 Gig or PSPPhat dropping in price before PSP Slim

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« Reply #41 on: August 14, 2008, 08:49:48 PM »
Not surprised about MGS4.  The game doesn't really have any replay value, FOR ME.
i just find it funny that MGS4 was supposed to not move any hardware...  and then it was dubbed as the only thing holding PS3 sales up...  and yet PS3 hardware is still selling without MGS4 sales. 

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The console is selling like shit.

Are you on crack or something?

siamesedreamer

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« Reply #42 on: August 14, 2008, 08:51:12 PM »
Didn't see the rumor about the about the 360 price drop. $200 for the arcade? What about the other versions?

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« Reply #43 on: August 14, 2008, 08:52:09 PM »
What on earth do summer doldrums NPDs tell us when Soul Calibur and NCAA Football are the biggest games? I haven't bought a game since Ninja Gaiden II, personally.

As to why MS is taking so long with the price cuts: I think they were suckered by the sales of the Elite (which was expected to bomb by the GAF hivemind, IIRC). They thought, damn, this thing is selling 'cause of the bigger HDD, let's keep fucking with the storage and maybe we can keep the price high! In reality, it was probably just that demand for the console was high at the time and that most buyers probably didn't much care which version they got so long as it played Gears/Halo 3 etc. Ooops!
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« Reply #44 on: August 14, 2008, 08:57:50 PM »
Not surprised about MGS4.  The game doesn't really have any replay value, FOR ME.
i just find it funny that MGS4 was supposed to not move any hardware...  and then it was dubbed as the only thing holding PS3 sales up...  and yet PS3 hardware is still selling without MGS4 sales. 

(Image removed from quote.)

The console is selling like shit.

Are you on crack or something?
u mad? 

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« Reply #45 on: August 14, 2008, 08:58:32 PM »
Didn't see the rumor about the about the 360 price drop. $200 for the arcade? What about the other versions?
50 bucks each i think

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« Reply #46 on: August 14, 2008, 08:59:58 PM »
Didn't see the rumor about the about the 360 price drop. $200 for the arcade? What about the other versions?

Rumor was $200 arcade, $300 pro, $400 elite.

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« Reply #47 on: August 14, 2008, 09:02:39 PM »
Forgot today was NPD day.

 :lol at Microsoft
Uh, keep "catching up," Sony
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« Reply #48 on: August 14, 2008, 09:03:59 PM »
It is becoming more apparent each month that MS does not care about market share. The 360 is months overdue for a price drop
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« Reply #49 on: August 14, 2008, 09:04:31 PM »
More like years.

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« Reply #50 on: August 14, 2008, 09:08:53 PM »
GOOD JON MGS4
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« Reply #51 on: August 14, 2008, 09:10:50 PM »
I'm a broken record .. but since the first month PS3 "beat" 360 (March?), it's all insignificant until the holiday season. That will be the deciding factor in who won the year and who will be the HD leader going forward.

I still feel the Sony brand resonates among the "value gamers" (read as: blacks and poors). Right now, it's a race to 199. Whoever gets there first, has the best chance of winning. MS could have done it .. but they value profit over winning fanboy wars.


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« Reply #52 on: August 14, 2008, 09:12:39 PM »
Not surprised about MGS4.  The game doesn't really have any replay value, FOR ME.
i just find it funny that MGS4 was supposed to not move any hardware...  and then it was dubbed as the only thing holding PS3 sales up...  and yet PS3 hardware is still selling without MGS4 sales. 

(Image removed from quote.)

The console is selling like shit.

Are you on crack or something?
u mad? 

Yes i am. The console should be selling a average of >300k month by now, and the month after Mgs4 releases it's back to low 200k. Meanwhile the wii is blazing.

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« Reply #53 on: August 14, 2008, 09:14:23 PM »
this is so gay

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« Reply #54 on: August 14, 2008, 09:16:31 PM »
Not surprised about MGS4.  The game doesn't really have any replay value, FOR ME.
i just find it funny that MGS4 was supposed to not move any hardware...  and then it was dubbed as the only thing holding PS3 sales up...  and yet PS3 hardware is still selling without MGS4 sales. 

(Image removed from quote.)

The console is selling like shit.

Are you on crack or something?
u mad? 

Yes i am. The console should be selling a average of >300k month by now, and the month after Mgs4 releases it's back to low 200k. Meanwhile the wii is blazing.
guess the 360 is really in trouble then. 

i hope you're not being serious.  because i'm not. 

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« Reply #55 on: August 14, 2008, 09:17:43 PM »
You know, I remember sometime around last year people calculated that if Nintendo was suddenly wiped out and the Wii just stopped selling (like, 0 Wiis were ever sold after that moment), then it would still take until like 2012 for the PS3 to even match it at its current rate.

I wonder what that's like now.
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« Reply #56 on: August 14, 2008, 09:25:52 PM »
Not surprised about MGS4.  The game doesn't really have any replay value, FOR ME.
i just find it funny that MGS4 was supposed to not move any hardware...  and then it was dubbed as the only thing holding PS3 sales up...  and yet PS3 hardware is still selling without MGS4 sales. 

(Image removed from quote.)

The console is selling like shit.

Are you on crack or something?
u mad? 

Yes i am. The console should be selling a average of >300k month by now, and the month after Mgs4 releases it's back to low 200k. Meanwhile the wii is blazing.
guess the 360 is really in trouble then. 

i hope you're not being serious.  because i'm not. 

The 360 sold 20k less than the PS3. To me, they are in the same situation, and i am being serious. They are selling like shit.

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« Reply #57 on: August 14, 2008, 09:31:52 PM »
Quote
The 360 sold 20k less than the PS3. To me, they are in the same situation, and i am being serious. They are selling like shit.

this basically.

PS3 is selling marginally less shittily (to the tune of 200k this last year (the year of the PS3)), but is the TRAILING console. If anything these figures are worse news for Sony: in their own touted "Year of PS3" the best they can hope for is to claw back 200k of 5m or so? eek.

And it's not like they seem ready to have a brilliant fall either. If the 360 trashes the Ps3 again this fall like it did last fall then, these 20k a month won't do Sony any good.

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« Reply #58 on: August 14, 2008, 09:33:24 PM »
this epic bomb of Uncharted: Snakes Misfortunes doesn't bode well for LBP either :lol
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« Reply #59 on: August 14, 2008, 09:33:59 PM »
The PS3 numbers are wow because it is $200 more expensive than the 360.

At least, that's what they're saying on other internets.

$200.