NPDNESS

[Smooth Groove]

Since the PS3 keep getting shitty ports, I just buy all the "big" PS3 exclusives that Sfags hype up.  For multiplatform stuff, I always buy the PC or 360 versions.  

[Tabasco]

What was always good about npd threads was when we got all the info.  Now, after evilore fagged out,with top 10 only, it's worthless.  eb needs an insider

[pilonv1]

I still don't understand who exactly buys NCAA games or cares about NCAA sports, aside from people in bumblefuck cities without any professional sports team.

i get NCAA College Hoops because its a better game of basketball

plus i can recruit tall young men to my team

[pilonv1]

What was always good about npd threads was when we got all the info.  Now, after evilore fagged out,with top 10 only, it's worthless.  eb needs an insider

theres insiders but they value their jobs.

[Mr. Gundam]

Lets just be real here.

I have a lot of disposable income, and my PS3 has one game for it, and like a bajilllion blurays. Lets not pretend its about the games.

I have a ton of PS3 games that get played on a regular basis.

[cool breeze]

Since the PS3 keep getting shitty ports, I just buy all the "big" PS3 exclusives that Sfags hype up.  For multiplatform stuff, I always buy the PC or 360 versions. 

Actually, there hasn't been a bad PS3 port in a while.  All in all this gen has been much better with multiple console ports than last gen was; don't forget that the PS2 market dominance meant that most multi-console games were limited by that technology and the Xbox versions usually looked far inferior than they should have been looking.

[Smooth Groove]

Since the PS3 keep getting shitty ports, I just buy all the "big" PS3 exclusives that Sfags hype up.  For multiplatform stuff, I always buy the PC or 360 versions. 

Actually, there hasn't been a bad PS3 port in a while.  All in all this gen has been much better with multiple console ports than last gen was; don't forget that the PS2 market dominance meant that most multi-console games were limited by that technology and the Xbox versions usually looked far inferior than they should have been looking.

The PS3 ports aren't as bad now as they were 2 yrs ago but Eurogamer's comparisons still show them to be inferior to the 360 versions 80% of the time.

[MrAngryFace]

Lets just be real here.

I have a lot of disposable income, and my PS3 has one game for it, and like a bajilllion blurays. Lets not pretend its about the games.

I have a ton of PS3 games that get played on a regular basis.

You also OWN GUNDAM CROSSFIRE

[cool breeze]

Yeah, but again, it is hardly inferior by a large margin anymore.  It is down to shit like the shadows in DMC4 being different, or a slightly lesser resolution.  The days of Turok (lol) looking like garbage on the 360 seem to be over.  Nothing very tangible or anything that would destroy the experience.  Even Madden is now neck and neck on both systems and no longer has the gimped 30 fps PS3 version.  Are the 360 versions still the best? yes, like you said; but PS3 only owners, or even those who just want to buy a game on PS3 for some reason (like me buying SC4 on PS3 because of my arcade stick), no longer get the ripped off by comparison.

Thinking back, it was actually sad how horrible the PS3 ports used to be.  Hate to bring up Turok again, but that was just some sad shit.  I only did play the demos, but it was ridiculous how lazy the PS3 port of it was.

Just counting my game collection, I would say that I have a little less than half the amount of PS3 games than 360 games.

[duckman2000]

Thinking back, it was actually sad how horrible the PS3 ports used to be.  Hate to bring up Turok again, but that was just some sad shit.  I only did play the demos, but it was ridiculous how lazy the PS3 port of it was.

That one was of course especially sad given the big talk of delivering basically identical versions. It seems like the big ticket items get the best treatment, which obviously makes sense, and I guess Turok wasn't that type of big ticket item. But certain people were so sure of themselves when it came to that particular game that the massive difference between versions came as a bit of a shock. But yeah, the multiplatform differences are disappearing or at least becoming far less noticeable.

Although comically, the smaller the differences, the more heated the arguments about them seem to have become. The COD4 thread on NeoGAF was a jesters blast and probably the first of its kind considering the closeness between versions, with people taking comparison pictures of close-ups of textures, and then larger shots to show off differences in AF, bitching high and low about being fooled by IW into believing that the versions were identical.

[Mr. Gundam]

Lets just be real here.

I have a lot of disposable income, and my PS3 has one game for it, and like a bajilllion blurays. Lets not pretend its about the games.

I have a ton of PS3 games that get played on a regular basis.

You also OWN GUNDAM CROSSFIRE

Well yeah, but I'm not counting that piece of trash.

[MrAngryFace]

Gundam Crossfire is so not a good way to support anyone

[cool breeze]

Gundam Crossfire is a good way to support euthanasia.

[maxy]

No MGS4 numbers?Also Namco 2 million shipped

[laesperanzapaz]

 

keep arguing over your meaningless NPD cum drippings, fools

SMH @ message board fanboys

[Mr. Gundam]

Gundam Crossfire is so not a good way to support anyone

it's my way of telling Sony that that's the sort of games we want to see....

... this backfired spectacularly when Namco dropped trou and shat out Operation Troy on the X360.

That said, Operation Troy is way better... but this is like comparing the sensation of eating a bucket full of gravel vs. eating a sandwich consisting of screws and razor blades. 

 

It's looking more and more likely that Bandai's mecha titles are going to the PSP, if not staying on the PS2.

[Mr. Gundam]

It's looking more and more likely that Bandai's mecha titles are going to the PSP, if not staying on the PS2.

troy , all joking aside, was nowhere near as bad as i was expecting. Offline it's utter garbage, but online it's short and snappy and the battles are fairly enjoyable.

It's still C grade, but i've come to lower my Gundam expectations and use CH for my big robot kicks. And ACE to some extent.

I'd love to try Operation Troy, but I already buy so much crap that I'll never play that I can't justify the purchase of a 360.

[cool breeze]

I would really like to try Operation Troy, but last I checked the demo was removed off of XBL after a long period of being gold exclusive.

My favorite Gundam games are Side Story on the Dreamcast and One Year War/Project Pegasus on the PS2.  I still really enjoy the PSP games and Musou, but nothing has topped those two games for me.  The FPS on Wii is actually quite good for the most part, and I did hear good things about the gamecube game.

[Mr. Gundam]

I've got Ace Pilot, the GC game. It's pretty fun.

I would really like to try Operation Troy, but last I checked the demo was removed off of XBL after a long period of being gold exclusive.

Serious? Wow.

Is it even coming to North America?

[cool breeze]

Gamestop has it listed for October 1st

http://www.gamestop.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?product_id=60519

Hopefully there is a demo for the NA region of XBL.

Oh, and Char's Counterattack.  I really liked that game; it was one of the first imports I ever bought.

The intro was so awesome:

[youtube=425,350]jQHCJY5tn7M[/youtube]

[Mr. Gundam]

Yeah, I've got CC for the Playstation, wasn't bad.

[pilonv1]

i got a 3 day ban for trolling that thread

[etiolate]

I'd still rather have a 360 than a PS3 as my second console. Sony has lost that image of always having a game to play or a library to satisfy.  The PSP library inspires no envy, nor does the PS3. It's LittleBigPlanet and then some franchises that are truly the living dead. The 360 still has much more that interests me in games. The console just hasn't had a big release in awhile. Nintendo blew their wad as well, but their games routinely last longer in sales due to a wide audience and the fact N games generally have great replayability.

[Eel O'Brian]

weird, i'm looking forward to more games this year than any year since this gen began

i whittled down my list to 10 must-haves, and there are still around 5 more i want but am holding off on

[Rman]

Which games, Eel?

[Tabasco]

What was always good about npd threads was when we got all the info.  Now, after evilore fagged out,with top 10 only, it's worthless.  eb needs an insider

theres insiders but they value their jobs.

Yeah that could be the case.  But I've seen posts on GAF and have some second-hand knowledge indicating that many devs don't get to see the full NPD results themselves.  I remember reading in one of those "Devs why do you read GAF?" threads that many said they read it for the hilarity and to get sales numbers.

[Eel O'Brian]

Which games, Eel?

September 7th, 2008 - SPORE

September 14, 2008  Rock Band 2 (game only)

September 23, 2008  Brothers in Arms: Hell's Highway

October 7, 2008  Fallout 3 Collector's Edition - I know it's cheesy, but I want that bobblehead and lunch box

October 21, 2008  LittleBigPlanet

October 26, 2008  Guitar Hero World Tour + guitar (I don't have a wireless guitar)

November 4, 2008  Left 4 Dead 360 (will also get the PC version once the mods start kicking in)

November 4, 2008  Resistance 2  (wasn't too thrilled with the first one, but 8-player co-op sounds neat)

November 7, 2008  Gears of War 2  

November 11, 2008  Call of Duty: World at War

holding off on Mercenaries 2, Dead Space, Endwar, Force Unleashed, SOCOM, and some others I'm iffy about

[GilloD]

Can we not do this on this forum? The temptation to play BUSINESS ANALYST with NPD numbers is exactly what torched GAF.

[Wolf Gang]

Heavenly Sword, Lair, Uncharted, Genji 2, Ratchet & Clank, Metal Gear Solid 4 - bomb after bomb. Every PS3 excluisve game disappears from the charts after being only a month out.

Where's PLAYSTATION 3's multimillion sellers like Gears of War? Halo 3?

LBP is next. Oh boy, will it bomb. Bomb HARD.

Crysis would still have sold better on PS3 though, am I right?

[Third]

Poor Xflop360. Still not outselling the Ps3, even after a pricedrop.

[Brehvolution]

Heavenly Sword, Lair, Uncharted, Genji 2, Ratchet & Clank, Metal Gear Solid 4 - bomb after bomb. Every PS3 excluisve game disappears from the charts after being only a month out.

Where's PLAYSTATION 3's multimillion sellers like Gears of War? Halo 3?

LBP is next. Oh boy, will it bomb. Bomb HARD.

Further proof that only sfags are ruining the forum.

[radioheadrule83]

Is Sam & Max Season 1 out on the Wii in America?
Its out in Europe on the 29th

[Philip Cardgage]

So much anger in this thread.

[hyp]

Jesus titty fucking christ. Evilbore is getting big enough now that there's this? Ugh. Hate it.

there's been an NPD thread every month i've been on this board.  nearly 2 years now.  or are you just surprised at the responses?

[Smooth Groove]

Jesus titty fucking christ. Evilbore is getting big enough now that there's this? Ugh. Hate it.

there's been an NPD thread every month i've been on this board.  nearly 2 years now.  or are you just surprised at the responses?

Yeah, but there were far less angry people.  I guess that's due to the recent influx of Sfag members.  NPD threads at EB used to be Xbot circle jerks instead of GAFFOT-like "discussions". 

[hyp]

i always looked at NPD threads on this board as joke threads.  chill out people. 

[Eel O'Brian]

Well, I can't find a Wii in this town to save my ass, and I have the money right here in my hand.  If I have to stand in line or hunt one down all over the place then fuck it.  Eat my balls, Nintendo.

[duckman2000]

The nice thing about the Wii is that you can buy one, play it for a few months, and then sell it for more than you paid. It's like a rental system of the Gods.

[Eel O'Brian]

i can get a ripoff bundle full of shit like the m&m cart racer online, but fuck all that

i just want the wii, some component cables, and that's it - i intend to rent wii games

the fact that i've wasted valuable minutes of lifespan calling around is making me rapidly lose interest

again, eat my balls, nintendo

i'm hacking the fuck out of it

[Smooth Groove]

I keep my Wii around for friends.  The 360 and PS3 games are fun for them to watch but other than fighters, everything else is too complicated to pick up and play.  

[Trent Dole]

The nice thing about the Wii is that you can buy one, play it for a few months, and then sell it for more than you paid. It's like a rental system of the Gods.

Unless you're a dumbshit who bought a bunch of VC stuff. In any case folks who bought a Wii and expected it to be a satisfactory sole console are a bit foolish considering how the 64 and GC went.

[Eel O'Brian]

I want one now because until September, there aren't any 360 or PS3 games I want to play, and I can catch up on the 5 or so Wii games out that I want to play.  After that there's a flood of 360 and PS3 stuff to occupy my gaming time.  The closer it gets to September the less I will want a Wii.  They've had plenty of time to ramp up production on these things. It can't be stated enough - eat my balls, Nintendo.  

[Bocsius]

The only reason I'd want a Wii is to play Virtual Console, but the only things I'd want to play on VC would be Mario Bros. and Mario Kart, but I have a DS which I also use to only play NSMB and MKDS so having a Wii for VC to do the same thing would be ridiculously redundant. So screw the Wii, from the ever-caring-to-own-one standpoint.

However, the Wii is a troll on the entire online gaming community, and I for one love it.

Wii

[Kestastrophe]

They've had plenty of time to ramp up production on these things. It can't be stated enough - eat my balls, Nintendo.

I hate it when people say "oh, but they're shipping more than any other console in history". While that is completely true, it doesn't negate the fact that demand is still outstripping supply here in the states nearly 2 years after launch. It's not like the company doesn't have enough cash to plop down for increasing production, which should be relatively simple anyways because the hardware is simpler. They must be using extremely conservative assumptions in their inventory predictions.

[Eel O'Brian]

everyone on craigslist wants more than the fucking thing is worth, too

[duckman2000]

Nintendo has successfully kept up the supply vs demand hysteria going for 2 years, which is obviously working out for them. I don't for a second believe that demand would be anywhere near as rabid had the system been well stocked. We put up our ad, and given the fast, almost panic struck response to the ad, you'd think we were giving away gold for free. It wasn't even a good price for the system, but it was snatched up immediately, and allegedly, this person had been driven to desperation due to having had no luck in stores.

everyone on craigslist wants more than the fucking thing is worth, too

And they will get it. Not much more, but some. People want it (because hey, Bob and Janet has one, and it's such great family fun, even the dog wants to play with the Wii!), but they don't seem particularly interested in paying a ton of money for it.

[Eel O'Brian]

well, fuck it, i'll spend my 250 elsewhere, and just pick up a cheap wii after the flood of unused systems hit the market a couple of years from now

eat my balls, nintendo

[GilloD]

Seriously. Can we lock this thread? If I have to read another bone-headed analysis form people with absolutely ZERO background in business or the finer points of tech production, I'm going to lose my mind. No more NPD, ever, please, god, please.

[Eel O'Brian]

i've owned and operated a business for over ten years, sport

[Philip Cardgage]

Seriously. Can we lock this thread? If I have to read another bone-headed analysis form people with absolutely ZERO background in business or the finer points of tech production, I'm going to lose my mind. No more NPD, ever, please, god, please.

good call

[Philip Cardgage]

fuck you, oblivion!

[Oblivion]

Ah, thank you, Mojo.

Nintendo has successfully kept up the supply vs demand hysteria going for 2 years, which is obviously working out for them. I don't for a second believe that demand would be anywhere near as rabid had the system been well stocked.

Um, you do realize that it's been selling 600+ units nearly every month since launch, right? Not to mention Nintendo's actually been trying to ramp up production by manufacturing like a million a month or something like that.

[Bocsius]

We could take the nerdery one step further and have Media-Create threads.

[Mr. Gundam]

We could take the nerdery one step further and have Media-Create threads.

Oh, fuck no. I thought we were better than GAF?

[Kestastrophe]

Kest - I've seen them a few times in Kalamazoo without even looking for them. 

Oh, I have one. Got it last year in the Gamestop on Westnedge

[Mr. Gundam]

I was at a Fred Meyer in Seattle yesterday, and they had five Wii's just sitting in the case. I was afraid that I'd be trampled at any moment by a mob of soccer moms. 

[trh]

more like npdgayness

[Jansen]

it would suck ass to have a wii as your only console.

like owning a gamecube last gen.

[Smooth Groove]

it would suck ass to have a wii as your only console.

like owning a gamecube last gen.

GC at least had some pretty games though. 

[laesperanzapaz]

Seriously. Can we lock this thread? If I have to read another bone-headed analysis form people with absolutely ZERO background in business or the finer points of tech production, I'm going to lose my mind. No more NPD, ever, please, god, please.

Or you can leave the thread.  For every annoying person in these threads, there's an even more annoying group of people who only contribute how much they hate the thread they're posting in. 

sometimes i confuse myself and mix up the two of you.  i dont know why, maybe because you both like(d) nintendo