NPDNESS

[demi]

this is so gay

You started it

[Kestastrophe]

I would not say that the 360's fall lineup is absolutely stellar either. It will be interesting to see how the 360 and PS3 fare when their fall lineups are ok-ish.

[WrikaWrek]

I would not say that the 360's fall lineup is absolutely stellar either. It will be interesting to see how the 360 and PS3 fare when their fall lineups are ok-ish.

It has big names at least.

Gears of War 2
Fable 2

[pilonv1]

Viva Pinata

[Kestastrophe]

It has big names at least.

It's true, but I still think that LBP is a bit of a wild card and could go either way (i.e. bomba or megaton). I am pretty sure that Fable and Gears are more middle of the road as far as sales volatility is concerned and will both sell well.

[JustinP]

I would not say that the 360's fall lineup is absolutely stellar either. It will be interesting to see how the 360 and PS3 fare when their fall lineups are ok-ish.

It has big names at least.

Gears of War 2
Fable 2

..fable 1 sold about as well as motorstorm and resistance did (which also have sequels coming this holiday).  gears is the only guaranteed big game.  i still think 360 will take back NPD this holiday unless sony cuts price, but it's not like 360's lineup is much stronger. 

[pilonv1]

I would not say that the 360's fall lineup is absolutely stellar either. It will be interesting to see how the 360 and PS3 fare when their fall lineups are ok-ish.

It has big names at least.

Gears of War 2
Fable 2

..fable 1 sold about as well as motorstorm and resistance (which also have sequels coming this holiday).  gears is the only guaranteed big game. 

Fable sold over a million units in the US alone on Xbox, have Motorstorm/Resistance done that?

[JustinP]

I would not say that the 360's fall lineup is absolutely stellar either. It will be interesting to see how the 360 and PS3 fare when their fall lineups are ok-ish.

It has big names at least.

Gears of War 2
Fable 2

..fable 1 sold about as well as motorstorm and resistance (which also have sequels coming this holiday).  gears is the only guaranteed big game. 

Fable sold over a million units in the US alone on Xbox, have Motorstorm/Resistance done that?

probably.  their worldwide sales are roughly even. 

[duckman2000]

ITT: plenty of xtards spinning like crazy, NeoGAF stard style. It's alright, dudes.

[pilonv1]

spinning what? equally pathetic ps3 sales and the non-event of MGS4?

[duckman2000]

spinning what? equally pathetic ps3 sales

That right there. Arguing that things are equal, when in reality they are not, that's your common loser spin. Throwing in "just you wait until [future event]", that's the NeoGAF stard style. If it wasn't obvious already that all HD console fanboys were equal berries hanging off of separate hairs in the same anal region, well then it certainly is now.

[Cormacaroni]

ITT: plenty of xtards spinning like crazy, NeoGAF stard style. It's alright, dudes.

Go on, tell us the spin-free TRUTH about why the 360 is doing so badly. I bet you can't come up with any substantial reason that hasn't already been posted ITT.

[drohne]

200k in a 'pricedrop' month? WOW. so begins the long, shrill slide to last place -- ps3 is a failure too, so your agony will be protracted

[Grecco]

spinning what? equally pathetic ps3 sales

That right there. Arguing that things are equal, when in reality they are not, that's your common loser spin. Throwing in "just you wait until [future event]", that's the NeoGAF stard style. If it wasn't obvious already that all HD console fanboys were equal berries hanging off of separate hairs in the same anal region, well then it certainly is now.

How are they not?

[WrikaWrek]

spinning what? equally pathetic ps3 sales

That right there. Arguing that things are equal, when in reality they are not, that's your common loser spin. Throwing in "just you wait until [future event]", that's the NeoGAF stard style. If it wasn't obvious already that all HD console fanboys were equal berries hanging off of separate hairs in the same anal region, well then it certainly is now.

Aren't you that dude that spent the whole e3 damage controlling? Yeah it was you. I read it on my cellphone, often friends would ask me why i was laughing, i always said "Just some dumbass"

[duckman2000]

why aren't things equal then?

Sales for both systems are pathetic, if one was to look at where the Wii is at. But they are not equally pathetic, and have not been equally pathetic for most of this year. Attempting to argue that they are is something only the loser would do. The 360 even had an even greater price advantage than it typically has had, and certainly it has a games library advantage, so I guess that market has just plain been saturated.

[Brehvolution]

*fuck, why am I doing this*

Typical NPD thread. Xfags are all," PS3 still fucking sucks and only sold x amount more... () we had year head start and still lead! " "I contributed 1 to NPD for the 360 2 years ago but I still care who sells more now..." Of course xfags outnumber the sfags here so the spin is compounded. It is so unfortunate to also hear that the only important software that is coming out by Xmas is fable and gears.

[duckman2000]

It is so unfortunate to also here that the only important software that is coming out by Xmas is fable and gears.

Very sfagesque. Wait Until ℠

[drohne]

Go on, tell us the spin-free TRUTH about why the 360 is doing so badly. I bet you can't come up with any substantial reason that hasn't already been posted ITT.

how about 'because nobody anywhere in the world wants one'

did we do that one already

look on the bright side: when 360 goes dreamcast, you can stockpile a bunch of cheap rrod backups, so you'll always be able to revisit the stellar games that drove 360's intentional, premeditated, wildly successful campaign to target only the hardcore and finish in last. like...uh...saints row, or crackdown or something

[Grecco]

why aren't things equal then?

Sales for both systems are pathetic, if one was to look at where the Wii is at. But they are not equally pathetic, and have not been equally pathetic for most of this year. Attempting to argue that they are is something only the loser would do. The 360 even had an even greater price advantage than it typically has had, and certainly it has a games library advantage, so I guess that market has just plain been saturated.

The difference this year is negliggable. 20k this month is really something to praise?  

in the end though Microsofts Xbox 360 is profitable. Sonys PS3 is not.  Microsoft has no problems loosing to Sony by 20k or so each month when they make money  and the other company isnt. When they still sell more software, and they still have a lead that if it continues at this trend will take many years for it to evaporate. So yeah if anything its alot more shittyer for sony. Sfags just dont understand the buisness side of it. Thats two decades of winning the gen that does that to you

[Brehvolution]

It is so unfortunate to also here that the only important software that is coming out by Xmas is fable and gears.

Very sfagesque. Wait Until ℠

Thank you. 

 Wait until what though? LBP? R2? M2? SOCOM? All is scheduled to be out by xmas.

[Kestastrophe]

BOOO YOU GUYS

[Grecco]

BOOO YOU GUYS

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Good Jon on the Kagari bit at Gaf

[Bocsius]

Arguing over the top games this holiday.  Which sucks worse, PS3 or 360. 

They're both nigh irrelevant, so what's the point in bickering?

[Cormacaroni]

Go on, tell us the spin-free TRUTH about why the 360 is doing so badly. I bet you can't come up with any substantial reason that hasn't already been posted ITT.

how about 'because nobody anywhere in the world wants one'

did we do that one already

look on the bright side: when 360 goes dreamcast, you can stockpile a bunch of cheap rrod backups, so you'll always be able to revisit the stellar games that drove 360's intentional, premeditated, wildly successful campaign to target only the hardcore and finish in last. like...uh...saints row, or crackdown or something

wow, no spin in this post AT ALL

[Joe Molotov]

BOOO YOU GUYS

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Is this thread awesome now?

[Brehvolution]

why aren't things equal then?

Sales for both systems are pathetic, if one was to look at where the Wii is at. But they are not equally pathetic, and have not been equally pathetic for most of this year. Attempting to argue that they are is something only the loser would do. The 360 even had an even greater price advantage than it typically has had, and certainly it has a games library advantage, so I guess that market has just plain been saturated.

The difference this year is negliggable. 20k this month is really something to praise? 

in the end though Microsofts Xbox 360 is profitable. Sonys PS3 is not.  Microsoft has no problems loosing to Sony by 20k or so each month when they make money  and the other company isnt. When they still sell more software, and they still have a lead that if it continues at this trend will take many years for it to evaporate. So yeah if anything its alot more shittyer for sony. Sfags just dont understand the buisness side of it. Thats two decades of winning the gen that does that to you

Obviously, xfags can't understand the business side either. Thanks for setting the true war relying on 1st party games. What is it? Sony's 15 to MS's 2? It will definitely take  a lot of battles for the PS3 to win the war, and they have been winning a lot. The war isn't won and lost in a year or even 3.

I don't even care as I'll have a 360 for F2 and then gears2. It doesn't matter who wins, but I know I'll win as a gamer regardless.

[Cormacaroni]

this thread started off ok, then you guys just shat it up.

Evilfaqs.

You were expecting maybe a Socratic dialog? Innovative regression analysis of the raw data? Please. You don't start an NPD thread and expect not to see a few fireworks.

[Draft]

No he's right, look at them.

S and X distinguished effete fellows fighting like animals. No, worse than animals. At least an animal is pure in its behavior.

The worst of the super fans hide their venom behind detached analysis. Their posts are the most disgusting of all.

[Mupepe]

I hate this fucking thread every month.   

[Joe Molotov]

 

[cool breeze]

Yeah, I don't know what all the argument is about here.  I put in my opinion that there was no good reason to buy an Xbox in July, so I'm not surprised it didn't sell.  I don't know what all the bickering is about in this thread now.

If the Xbox sells more, then good for us; if the PS3 sells well, then again, good for us.  The only real shit worth getting pissed about is that Wii Music is going to move more consoles than Gears 2, Resistance 2, LBP, Fable 2, etc... combined.

[demi]

It's ok baby. I'm not like them.

[pilonv1]

Wii Music is going to move more consoles than Gears 2, Resistance 2, LBP, Fable 2, etc... combined.

i am calling it - Wii Music will bomb.

So which bombs worse, Wii Music, LBP or new Viva Pinata?

[Grecco]

Wii Music is going to move more consoles than Gears 2, Resistance 2, LBP, Fable 2, etc... combined.

i am calling it - Wii Music will bomb.

Wii owners bought 160k copies of a gimped Rock Band.  So yeah i think it will do ok.

Though i wonder if they will simply package it with a Wiimote ala Wii Play.

[Smooth Groove]

All this venom over whose favorite company will end up in 2nd place?  

The only good thing that came out of this thread is that all the fanboys came out of their closets.  

[JustinP]

Wii Music is going to move more consoles than Gears 2, Resistance 2, LBP, Fable 2, etc... combined.

i am calling it - Wii Music will bomb.

So which bombs worse, Wii Music, LBP or new Viva Pinata?

i bet sales are as follows:

wii music>LBP>viva

though i hope that wii music won't have legs once people realize how pitifully distinguished mentally-challenged it is. 

[Joe Molotov]

Wii Music is going to move more consoles than Gears 2, Resistance 2, LBP, Fable 2, etc... combined.

i am calling it - Wii Music will bomb.

So, sub 5 Million sales for Wii Music?

[cool breeze]

i am calling it - Wii Music will bomb.

I think you underestimate the average gaming habits of a Wii owner, but we shall see.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

I didn't read too much of the thread but my thoughts:

- Microsoft needs to drop the price.  PS3 is still expensive but it has had price cuts.  360 has had almost none.  I understand Microsoft wanting the 360 to be in the black but you have to maintain hardware momentum to continue the software momentum.  Even 360 software sales are lacking the strength they did in 2006 and 2007.  If Microsoft continues their strategy, soon, they will be barely above the PS3 version sales.  Then the 360 software sales will begin to slump behind the PS3.  This might mean taking a little more loss on their systems but no more special editions, no more altering hard drives.  Cut the price.  Clean.  Simple.

- Wii Music will sell a shit ton because not everyone just cares about rock music.  It will tap demographics that Rock Band and Guitar Hero are not reaching.  I'm sure it will do worse than Wii Play or Wii Fit but it will still sell several million copies because the Wii base (soccer moms) will buy whatever shit is on the posters when you walk into Wal Mart or Target (pronounced Tar-Zhea)

- PS3 fans should not declare victory yet.  US sales are only half of the 360 and that is still 5 million.  Selling 20,000 more units a month, the PS3 will never catch up.  It needs to be a good solid 50k+ more a month than the 360 before you guys start shooting loads in your pants about how the PS3 will dominate.

[Mr. Gundam]

I have some friends who have Wiis and love Wii Sports and Wii Fit. I told them about Wii Music and they were utterly dumbfounded as to why people would like it.

[Cormacaroni]

Yeah, I don't know what all the argument is about here.  I put in my opinion that there was no good reason to buy an Xbox in July, so I'm not surprised it didn't sell.  I don't know what all the bickering is about in this thread now.

If the Xbox sells more, then good for us; if the PS3 sells well, then again, good for us.  The only real shit worth getting pissed about is that Wii Music is going to move more consoles than Gears 2, Resistance 2, LBP, Fable 2, etc... combined.

Hey, the only reason I'm still in this thread is because i'm annoyed that i'm seeing what I consider perfectly reasonable opinions being denigrated as fanboy spin. For example, I agree with you that there is no reason to buy a 360 now. But when that gets translated into 'lol @ xfags in 'wait for Xmas mode!' ', all of a sudden, I can't agree with you without being labelled a fanboy. Ugh. It's surreal - here we are saying that 360 sales are shit, there's no reason to buy a 360 now - and we're fanboys?!  If these are fanboy opinions, what are the haters thinking?!

[tiesto]

I still don't understand who exactly buys NCAA games or cares about NCAA sports, aside from people in bumblefuck cities without any professional sports team.

[demi]

I dunno why you guys are griping about this thread... if it wasnt this it was gonna be another thread

So stfu and be glad its contained

[ToxicAdam]

I still don't understand who exactly buys NCAA games or cares about NCAA sports, aside from people in bumblefuck cities without any professional sports team.

I haven't played a sports game in about 8 years, but normally the NCAA games played better than the pro counterparts. They also had more options (season modes, dynasty modes, recruiting .. etc). Just a more well rounded sports game overall (but usually worse graphics).

[MrAngryFace]

Lets just be real here.

I have a lot of disposable income, and my PS3 has one game for it, and like a bajilllion blurays. Lets not pretend its about the games.

[Smooth Groove]

Fo real.  I have like 70-80 Blu-rays and less than 10 PS3 games. 

[MrAngryFace]

My only PS3 games by the end of August will be MLB The Show 08 and Disgaea 3 lol. I just use my HARDWARE BC to play PS2 games on it most of the time.

[Oblivion]

All this venom over whose favorite company will end up in 2nd place?   

The only good thing that came out of this thread is that all the fanboys came out of their closets. 

I dunno why you guys are griping about this thread... if it wasnt this it was gonna be another thread

So stfu and be glad its contained

Smooth Groove
Demi
straight up real talk

[Smooth Groove]

Since the PS3 keep getting shitty ports, I just buy all the "big" PS3 exclusives that Sfags hype up.  For multiplatform stuff, I always buy the PC or 360 versions.  

[Tabasco]

What was always good about npd threads was when we got all the info.  Now, after evilore fagged out,with top 10 only, it's worthless.  eb needs an insider

[pilonv1]

I still don't understand who exactly buys NCAA games or cares about NCAA sports, aside from people in bumblefuck cities without any professional sports team.

i get NCAA College Hoops because its a better game of basketball

plus i can recruit tall young men to my team

[pilonv1]

What was always good about npd threads was when we got all the info.  Now, after evilore fagged out,with top 10 only, it's worthless.  eb needs an insider

theres insiders but they value their jobs.

[Mr. Gundam]

Lets just be real here.

I have a lot of disposable income, and my PS3 has one game for it, and like a bajilllion blurays. Lets not pretend its about the games.

I have a ton of PS3 games that get played on a regular basis.

[cool breeze]

Since the PS3 keep getting shitty ports, I just buy all the "big" PS3 exclusives that Sfags hype up.  For multiplatform stuff, I always buy the PC or 360 versions. 

Actually, there hasn't been a bad PS3 port in a while.  All in all this gen has been much better with multiple console ports than last gen was; don't forget that the PS2 market dominance meant that most multi-console games were limited by that technology and the Xbox versions usually looked far inferior than they should have been looking.

[Smooth Groove]

Since the PS3 keep getting shitty ports, I just buy all the "big" PS3 exclusives that Sfags hype up.  For multiplatform stuff, I always buy the PC or 360 versions. 

Actually, there hasn't been a bad PS3 port in a while.  All in all this gen has been much better with multiple console ports than last gen was; don't forget that the PS2 market dominance meant that most multi-console games were limited by that technology and the Xbox versions usually looked far inferior than they should have been looking.

The PS3 ports aren't as bad now as they were 2 yrs ago but Eurogamer's comparisons still show them to be inferior to the 360 versions 80% of the time.

[MrAngryFace]

Lets just be real here.

I have a lot of disposable income, and my PS3 has one game for it, and like a bajilllion blurays. Lets not pretend its about the games.

I have a ton of PS3 games that get played on a regular basis.

You also OWN GUNDAM CROSSFIRE

[cool breeze]

Yeah, but again, it is hardly inferior by a large margin anymore.  It is down to shit like the shadows in DMC4 being different, or a slightly lesser resolution.  The days of Turok (lol) looking like garbage on the 360 seem to be over.  Nothing very tangible or anything that would destroy the experience.  Even Madden is now neck and neck on both systems and no longer has the gimped 30 fps PS3 version.  Are the 360 versions still the best? yes, like you said; but PS3 only owners, or even those who just want to buy a game on PS3 for some reason (like me buying SC4 on PS3 because of my arcade stick), no longer get the ripped off by comparison.

Thinking back, it was actually sad how horrible the PS3 ports used to be.  Hate to bring up Turok again, but that was just some sad shit.  I only did play the demos, but it was ridiculous how lazy the PS3 port of it was.

Just counting my game collection, I would say that I have a little less than half the amount of PS3 games than 360 games.

[duckman2000]

Thinking back, it was actually sad how horrible the PS3 ports used to be.  Hate to bring up Turok again, but that was just some sad shit.  I only did play the demos, but it was ridiculous how lazy the PS3 port of it was.

That one was of course especially sad given the big talk of delivering basically identical versions. It seems like the big ticket items get the best treatment, which obviously makes sense, and I guess Turok wasn't that type of big ticket item. But certain people were so sure of themselves when it came to that particular game that the massive difference between versions came as a bit of a shock. But yeah, the multiplatform differences are disappearing or at least becoming far less noticeable.

Although comically, the smaller the differences, the more heated the arguments about them seem to have become. The COD4 thread on NeoGAF was a jesters blast and probably the first of its kind considering the closeness between versions, with people taking comparison pictures of close-ups of textures, and then larger shots to show off differences in AF, bitching high and low about being fooled by IW into believing that the versions were identical.

[Mr. Gundam]

Lets just be real here.

I have a lot of disposable income, and my PS3 has one game for it, and like a bajilllion blurays. Lets not pretend its about the games.

I have a ton of PS3 games that get played on a regular basis.

You also OWN GUNDAM CROSSFIRE

Well yeah, but I'm not counting that piece of trash.