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APF

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Re: I never realized how distinguished mentally-challenged IE is.
« Reply #60 on: August 26, 2008, 12:30:41 AM »
Aw, U mad. :(
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Re: I never realized how distinguished mentally-challenged IE is.
« Reply #61 on: August 26, 2008, 12:31:19 AM »
yes :/
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Re: I never realized how distinguished mentally-challenged IE is.
« Reply #62 on: August 26, 2008, 12:42:53 AM »
"hey, i'm not gonna get in the direct path of the "vista sucks lol" and "ie sucks lol" memes, because for 80% of the shithead internet, perception has invariably dictated reality"

I just find that IE7 is unusable for me because it doesn't support my typical usage patterns (I usually have a shitload of tabs open, as in several hundred at once).  While I do prefer open-source software for my own use on ideological grounds, I never bother to apply those ideals to my work since the industry in which I work is ethically loathsome anyway, the only thing I'm interested in is doing a good job on narrow technical grounds so I can get some experience to put on my resume to put me in a better position to find more agreeable work later on.  I have a lot of respect for some of the people at MS and appreciate some of their products, so when I started work I vaguely expected IE7 would be roughly on par with Firefox but for me, at least, it wasn't.

as for Vista, it seems to have become an all-purpose scapegoat for IT people, anything wrong with my computer or our network must be a Vista issue and are you sure you don't just want me to install XP for you?  and here, let me just turn off UAC that should fix your problems (I've had to turn it back on 3 times).  trying to impose a real security model on a culture/application ecosystem that never had one was going to be painful no matter what. 
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Van Cruncheon

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Re: I never realized how distinguished mentally-challenged IE is.
« Reply #63 on: August 26, 2008, 12:48:49 AM »
yes, but you are an extreme outlier usage case. it is a rare application that will serve your specific needs!

you are spot-on about the it pro situation, though. unfortunately. :'(
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Re: I never realized how distinguished mentally-challenged IE is.
« Reply #64 on: August 26, 2008, 09:55:51 AM »
Vista is a bloated piece of shit. So is IE.

Everybody knows this.

It's not just rhetoric, unless you consider the truth to be rhetorical, which it should be.

Alas, I design for IE. You have to. The two minority browsers need to worry about IE compliance, not standards compliance.

I don't even know why Microsoft played nice with W3 and didn't break Netscape/Mozilla/Opera by virtue of embrace, extend, and extinguish.

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Re: I never realized how distinguished mentally-challenged IE is.
« Reply #65 on: August 26, 2008, 10:06:14 AM »
leaks memory? as bad as ff/ff2 do?

the only version to give me any problems was 1.5 and its variants. it had a security bug in extensions iirc and i recall having it crashing more than a handful of times. either way, the memory consumption in ie and firefox isn't even comparable. i open 3 tabs on ie7 and it's already up to 50 mbs, whereas ff2 can hold up to +100 tabs and still use ~100. with firefox 3 it's less than 80.

not to mention you can stop the browser from eating crap with the extensions i posted, greasemonkey and whatever else. with ie7, all you can do is watch some hot chihuahua on bbw and and hope for the memory to come back somehow.

APF

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Re: I never realized how distinguished mentally-challenged IE is.
« Reply #66 on: August 26, 2008, 10:10:01 AM »
Per their blog, the IE team understands and has been doing a lot to address the memory issues in IE7.  IE7 really is like the Dreamcast of browsers.  From what I saw of IE8 it really could be a great main browser, on par or better than the alternatives, and I think by the time it comes out, there will be enough of a push to upgrade systems that folks will just migrate directly from 6 to 8 in the process--or at least that's my hope.  I'm not sure they have the desire to keep as robust an update schedule as Mozilla or some of the smaller ops (Opera, Webkit), but the more sophisticated browsers become the less I think that really matters; in terms of actual feature additions the list is pretty small for all of them.
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Re: I never realized how distinguished mentally-challenged IE is.
« Reply #67 on: August 26, 2008, 12:57:11 PM »
My browser of choice is Firefox 3.  Fixes the memory issues that ruined FF2 (on PC) for me, and it has extensions.  Getting the most out of the web is having the del.icio.us plugin, piclens, adblock plus, and downloadhelper.
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Re: I never realized how distinguished mentally-challenged IE is.
« Reply #68 on: August 26, 2008, 01:32:11 PM »
Okay well I finally downloaded FF 3 to try out on my Mac.  Seems pretty cool so far, but is there a way to enable three finger forward/back function?
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APF

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Re: I never realized how distinguished mentally-challenged IE is.
« Reply #69 on: August 26, 2008, 02:29:56 PM »
I can help you enable the five knuckle shuffle function...
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Re: I never realized how distinguished mentally-challenged IE is.
« Reply #70 on: August 26, 2008, 05:26:50 PM »
Oh my.
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Re: I never realized how distinguished mentally-challenged IE is.
« Reply #71 on: August 26, 2008, 11:01:15 PM »
guys, I've just been working on some code that automates mshtml.dll and ... sorry, but IE just has to go.    :-X
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Re: I never realized how distinguished mentally-challenged IE is.
« Reply #72 on: August 26, 2008, 11:26:38 PM »
Ubiquity just fucked IE in the ass.
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Re: I never realized how distinguished mentally-challenged IE is.
« Reply #73 on: August 27, 2008, 12:01:01 AM »
lol why do you need to be a high level browser expert to judge that IE is a piece of shit

you USE them.  you evaluate them based on consumer experience

by user experience, everyone knows IE is the Wii of browsers.  As immensely popular as it is outdated and regressive.

Competition is always good, however.  That said, Mozilla has proven that Open Source is not all hippy liberal communist socialist Mary Jane talk that I initially assumed it and therefore dismissed it.  Commie Open Source is just as capable of tremendous products superior to capitalist-monopolists' products like FF vs IE.  And it's also capable of fanboyism from Linuxtards.


in fairness tho:  Mentioning Vista and IE in the same sentence is a grave insult to Vista.  Vista is at least usable, if disappointing.  serviceable, if unimpressive.  Plus you have no choice. [if you care about compatibility or gaming]
« Last Edit: August 27, 2008, 12:03:14 AM by laesperanzapaz »
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Re: I never realized how distinguished mentally-challenged IE is.
« Reply #74 on: August 27, 2008, 12:07:24 AM »
personally I think the govt (by which I of course mean the global govt of the new world order) should just (inter-)nationalize MS and open all the code.  Ayn Rand eat your heart out.  too bad the DOJ wimped out  :'(
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Re: I never realized how distinguished mentally-challenged IE is.
« Reply #75 on: August 27, 2008, 12:14:28 AM »
Streaming video on Firefox is so hit or miss. Most of the time, I can't watch YouTube vids for more than 2 seconds without freezing. Is there a fix for this?
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Re: I never realized how distinguished mentally-challenged IE is.
« Reply #76 on: August 27, 2008, 01:07:50 AM »
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Re: I never realized how distinguished mentally-challenged IE is.
« Reply #77 on: August 27, 2008, 03:21:47 AM »
LOL ALL THE IE FANTARDS ARE OWNED

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Re: I never realized how distinguished mentally-challenged IE is.
« Reply #78 on: August 27, 2008, 03:27:20 AM »
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Re: I never realized how distinguished mentally-challenged IE is.
« Reply #79 on: August 27, 2008, 11:20:58 AM »
YOU GONNA HAFTA TELL EM WHAT TIME IT IS PROFESSOR
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Re: I never realized how distinguished mentally-challenged IE is.
« Reply #81 on: August 27, 2008, 04:12:48 PM »
Its puzzling that people who take time to discuss browsers on a message board consider themselves capable of gauging the common user experience.
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