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Re: What book(s) are you reading?
« Reply #2640 on: February 01, 2017, 10:16:17 AM »
Here's what I have on my nightstand, which should I read next?

The City & the City - China Mieville
Lord of Light - Roger Zelazny
The Stress of Her Regard - Tim Powers

I had a difficult time finishing that Powers' book. I'm interested to hear what you think of it.

I've only read two of his other books, On Stranger Tides and The Anubis Gate, but I liked those two. I'll probably read this after The City & the City.
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« Reply #2641 on: February 01, 2017, 10:45:40 PM »
Here's what I have on my nightstand, which should I read next?

The City & the City - China Mieville
Lord of Light - Roger Zelazny
The Stress of Her Regard - Tim Powers

I had a difficult time finishing that Powers' book. I'm interested to hear what you think of it.

I've only read two of his other books, On Stranger Tides and The Anubis Gate, but I liked those two. I'll probably read this after The City & the City.

I loved-loved-loved On Stranger Tides. I like Last Call, and unlike most people I thought Earthquake Weather was entrancing.

Something about the setting of The Stress of Her Regard just didn't sit with me. I'm not a huge fan of that period, so maybe that's part of it? The villains certainly worked well, and it was reasonable as horror, but still left me cold.

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« Reply #2642 on: February 06, 2017, 12:24:01 AM »
Got a Kindle Paperwhite. It really is a huge upgrade. Feels so much more serene and easygoing than reading on a laptop or phone, which I didn't mind before.

Been going through Kevin Smith's "Tough Sh*t: Life Advice from a Fat, Lazy Slob Who Did Good." As a KSmith fan the best part were the chapters on his Miramax experience, going from Harvey Weinstein lapdog to a bitter Weinstein shit-talker. Some good film industry insights here and a couple cautionary tales, much of which boils down to "people aren't saints, so don't idolize them."

Then it turns crass with a chapter or two on him wooing his wife, complete with a dick-sore sex story I didn't ever need to read, but he bookends it with the theme of the book well enough: work hard enough and set your expectations well, and you'll be able to make a living doing what you love.

Pretty much all of the contents of this book are available across various podcasts, but it's worth it for the the various inspiring-as-fuck excerpts. Some pithy examples:

"Leave yourself nowhere to hide and you can live life unguarded."

"You've gotta learn how to dream practically wild while conducting yourself as wildly practical."

"That's all 'talented' adults really are: overgrown children, unwilling to accept standard-issue adulthood."

"The canvas of art is vast; be happy you get to add any color to it, not bitchy about which crayons are taken. Shine with what you got."


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« Reply #2643 on: February 20, 2017, 10:10:06 PM »
Just read Ready Player One over the last week as its the monthly book of the book club I joined last month.  I generally stay away from stuff targeted at nerd culture because I'm a fucking hipster, but it's kinda neat reading something where I am exactly the target audience.  While a little corny at times and there was a bit where I felt it kinda dragged, it was fun!  Good book and worth a read for anyone who grew up on gaming.  It's interesting that out of all the fanservice even though I've been a huge gaming fan since Atari 2600 and adventure and stuff, what made me geek out the most was the mecha.  I <3 80s giant robots so much.  Will be interesting to see if they get licenses for all this stuff for the film version.  Cause regardless the movie is gonna be cheesy as fuck, but if it has half the stuff in the final battle I will pay money to see that.

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« Reply #2644 on: February 21, 2017, 12:10:20 AM »
Just read Ready Player One over the last week as its the monthly book of the book club I joined last month.  I generally stay away from stuff targeted at nerd culture because I'm a fucking hipster, but it's kinda neat reading something where I am exactly the target audience.  While a little corny at times and there was a bit where I felt it kinda dragged, it was fun!  Good book and worth a read for anyone who grew up on gaming.  It's interesting that out of all the fanservice even though I've been a huge gaming fan since Atari 2600 and adventure and stuff, what made me geek out the most was the mecha.  I <3 80s giant robots so much.  Will be interesting to see if they get licenses for all this stuff for the film version.  Cause regardless the movie is gonna be cheesy as fuck, but if it has half the stuff in the final battle I will pay money to see that.

I wanted to like that book so badly. I'm clearly its target audience, but it was so masturbatory and self-serving that I ended up wanting to punch someone.

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« Reply #2645 on: March 11, 2017, 09:25:51 PM »
Just finished The Crippled God.  Damn good books.  Can't wait to read more. 

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« Reply #2646 on: March 12, 2017, 10:51:20 AM »
After listening to and LOVING a shit-ton of Laird Barron's short fiction horror, I have been listening to The Croning, a novel.

Unfortunately, it is disjointed and difficult to follow, as though a series of short stories were forced into some kind of non-sequential stream. It's immensely frustrating, because his short fiction is so damned effective and transportative.

Just finished The Crippled God.  Damn good books.  Can't wait to read more.
I've been wanting to get back to those.

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« Reply #2647 on: March 12, 2017, 02:41:52 PM »
God has lifted me up into the multifunction monad from whence I can answer such questions. 0/0 = ℝ, 1/0 = ∅, etc
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« Reply #2648 on: March 12, 2017, 02:45:24 PM »
reading Recitation by Bae Suah, I am pretty bad at reading this book but about a third of the way in I feel I'm starting to get the hang of it
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Re: What book(s) are you reading?
« Reply #2649 on: March 12, 2017, 06:16:50 PM »
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« Reply #2650 on: March 12, 2017, 09:27:34 PM »
oh, I'd say so
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« Reply #2651 on: March 14, 2017, 07:23:31 PM »

look, i liked this, gave it four stars on goodreads and all, but either write a book about aaron swartz or write a book about the history of copyright don't start the latter and drop it for the former...and yes, you can say monopoly and cartel and that printers did not have a legitimate claim on possessing copyright over the authors if we're to have it exist

also, "the rise of the free culture on the internet" is not a subtitle you can use when one of your fifteen chapters is about it and Richard Stallman and etc. and ten of your chapters are about Swartz's relationships


for a book that's titled "DISSENT" it's as much about concurring opinions as it is dissenting ones because as the author helpfully explains every ten pages, dissents were rare until the 1950's...AND THEN IT ENDS, like wtf dude how do you write a book about the history of dissents and basically decide to pick two random modern examples, Scalia (gets about ten pages) and Thomas (who gets about two total pages) aren't important to it...this is a 2015 book too!


written for a more general audience but i liked this better than the professional one a few pages back, off script or whatever it is, that was garbage that spent 500 pages on dukakis in the tank, this was also kinda funny, didn't know the guy had a sense of humor


subtitle is misleading, as always, but like Operation: Shakespeare I got into this one because it's written more like a fiction-thriller despite being entirely non-fiction...essentially the core of the book is based around the beginnings of MI6 and how the Russian Revolution took it by surprise and all their agents who were in Russia (which was only really about five) were cut off and had to basically invent modern spycraft with many of the people who became the inspirations for James Bond involved...also a dude who had the world's biggest balls and just wandered into Lenin's office one day in the midst of the Red Terror and became his AND Trotsky's friend over mundane things and there after had access to all the important Soviet meetings and even got tipped off by one of them to avoid one when they murdered that meeting of socialists in the theatre i can't remember the name of now :lol

this is where I first got that story about how they used semen as invisible ink for a period


look, dude, i know you really like the guy, but Harry White is dead, he's not going to come back and blow you because Keynes was an idiot...that said, this wasn't too bad, it's actually worse when it's talking about the economic stuff and better when it's about the diplomatic maneuvering...the funniest part is that the author doesn't seem to have known that White was a Soviet admirer/spy until he started the book, so it's like jammed backwards into the book at certain points but he misses spots where this completely explains the dude's "strange" motives at points


these two were so fucking bad, not even in a normal bad and the second one makes like five hundred house of cards references like that guy you know who just started watching it at the same time he started reading the intercept

the first one is so bad he refutes his own argument in the second chapter then spends three explaining that you need to ignore that and instead pay attention to a speech Reagan gave 30 years later that doesn't mention "limousine liberals" but was instead a secret message to the KKK, indeed most of the book is about Nixon/Reagan's secret racist appeals and NOT anything to do with the image of the "limousine liberal" which he drops immediately after discussing Goldwater/Rockefeller in 1964 (for reference, the original insult apparently first came from a Democratic candidate running against Mayor John Lindsay and before that a socialist candidate who spread it in his regularly losing campaigns for every office available...he completely fumbles how George Wallace and Nixon's "silent majority" likely stole the concept for the conservative movement without knowing its origin to instead paint some secret alt-right plot that even brings in Trump)

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Re: What book(s) are you reading?
« Reply #2652 on: March 14, 2017, 07:24:10 PM »
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« Reply #2653 on: March 14, 2017, 07:42:16 PM »
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« Reply #2654 on: March 15, 2017, 03:37:21 AM »
That looks like some choose your own adventure type shit there.
I'm almost through with this:

Basically the key to being good at a thing is to practice the shit out of it, and not just practice the shit out of it, practice the shit out of parts that are extra difficult and challenging to you. Oh, ant it takes about 10 years to be good at a thing so if you aren't already you're probably too old. :gloomy
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Re: What book(s) are you reading?
« Reply #2655 on: April 10, 2017, 01:29:02 PM »
It only took me ~2 months, but I finally got around to reading The City & the City like I planned. It was a good read, I was a little disappointed
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it didn't reveal how the cities were created, but probably any explanation would have just been worse than leaving it unresolved.
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Now I'm starting on Ancillary Justice.
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Re: What book(s) are you reading?
« Reply #2656 on: April 10, 2017, 02:35:40 PM »
So I've been reading a ton of history stuff lately but now I need a fluffy palate cleanser.
Would love a new fantasy or sci-fi series.

I considered doing the Wheel of Time (I had gotten to book 5 and then just gave up when the guy got insufferably emo). Don't know if I want that big of a commitment

I tried "In the name of the Wind" back when it came out. But it fell into the whole "libertopian super man" trope and I gave up on it right quick after the Sword of Truth crap I have little patience for a libertopian super man protagonist.

Any suggestions? Something fun and exciting but also good.
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« Reply #2657 on: April 10, 2017, 02:39:43 PM »
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« Reply #2658 on: April 10, 2017, 04:11:51 PM »
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« Reply #2659 on: April 10, 2017, 04:57:37 PM »
gardens of the moon.  You can read the first 5 books in the series before the reading order gets complicated (and even then its not complicated like a lot of people try to make it seem)

Note that GotM was written a decade before the rest of the books and so its writing style is not nearly as good as the rest of the series.  Also its ok that its confusing.  Just roll with it - its part of the experience.   

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« Reply #2660 on: April 10, 2017, 05:18:11 PM »
Ordered! Thanks!
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« Reply #2661 on: April 10, 2017, 09:37:12 PM »
So I've been reading a ton of history stuff lately but now I need a fluffy palate cleanser.
Would love a new fantasy or sci-fi series.

I considered doing the Wheel of Time (I had gotten to book 5 and then just gave up when the guy got insufferably emo). Don't know if I want that big of a commitment

I tried "In the name of the Wind" back when it came out. But it fell into the whole "libertopian super man" trope and I gave up on it right quick after the Sword of Truth crap I have little patience for a libertopian super man protagonist.

Any suggestions? Something fun and exciting but also good.

Lies of Locke Lamorra – it's a fantasy novel centered around an epic-level grifter/scam artist. Loved it.

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« Reply #2662 on: April 22, 2017, 08:22:05 AM »
Tetris Effect and Breaking Rockefeller were fun. If you've read Game Over (if not Andrex, then hurry up), you knew the Tetris story, but this had a bit more personal stuff especially about the scams by some of the players and also Nintendo is more of a background figure than central to the story. Even the Tengen dispute only gets a small amount of coverage.

Rockefeller was less about him as much as it was about his competitors attempting to find ways to outmaneuver a slowly decaying Standard Oil and in the process invent all sorts of new things. Rockefeller wasn't even really involved in the oil side of his empire anymore. Some of the more interesting stuff was random dudes figuring out how to actually find oil, figuring out how to build a boat that wouldn't spill oil when it hit anything so they could use the Suez Canal, devising modern pipelines, etc. Standard was mostly just plugging along so it wasn't as interested in figuring out these innovations and was late to enter new markets.

Last through:

I liked this, it's not written by a guy with much if any history background so it's not ideal but it has a fun premise. The once legendary tome of the Kennedy years was A Thousand Days, this is basically about the next thousand days that are book-ended by Johnson's 1964 landslide and the 1966 counter landslide for the GOP. Framed by Reagan's rise to Presidential politics and his own landslide in the governor's race in California.

The main thing I wonder is whether Nixon wouldn't have been the better counter-figure. Johnson's landslide and 1966 if anything revived Nixon as the only figure acceptable to both wings of the GOP. It was Nixon's fall that pushed Reagan towards the Presidency. (As he acknowledges in the afterword.)

But it's fun, it's not kind to either character, but it's also not attacking nor trying to be overly even-handed. Arguably the only people who get the royal treatment are Lady Byrd and Nancy Reagan.

Next, because I assume it's going to be on people's hold lists so I can't sit on it for three months and plus it's short and unlike his good books appears to be edited versions of his Rolling Stone columns:

Apparently Trump's election was on the 99th anniversary of the fall of the Winter Palace.

Then look at these two jackasses on the cover of this one:

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« Reply #2663 on: April 29, 2017, 11:06:34 PM »
Ordered! Thanks!

Have you started?  Have you started?     :hyper

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« Reply #2664 on: April 30, 2017, 08:42:57 PM »
I've been very slowly chipping away at The Wind Up Girl, a post-apocalyptic sci fi novel where peak oil has hit, GMO-induced plagues run rampant, food is scarce, and a civil war in Thailand is brewing between people who want to re-open its protectionist environment up to trade and the nationalist Environment Ministry. Also add in a Japanese sex bot, a Malaysian refugee, and a 'farang' (whitey) agent of one of the GMO companies. It's got an interesting setting, but it's a bit tough to get through due to the use of lots of Thai words and slang, and made up words for the story, with little explanation of them. I'm not sure if I'm really feeling it but I'm about 3/4 of the way through by now.
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« Reply #2665 on: April 30, 2017, 08:53:32 PM »
I've been very slowly chipping away at The Wind Up Girl, a post-apocalyptic sci fi novel where peak oil has hit, GMO-induced plagues run rampant, food is scarce, and a civil war in Thailand is brewing between people who want to re-open its protectionist environment up to trade and the nationalist Environment Ministry. Also add in a Japanese sex bot, a Malaysian refugee, and a 'farang' (whitey) agent of one of the GMO companies. It's got an interesting setting, but it's a bit tough to get through due to the use of lots of Thai words and slang, and made up words for the story, with little explanation of them. I'm not sure if I'm really feeling it but I'm about 3/4 of the way through by now.

I read that a few months ago, and had a similar reaction. It picks up, and it ends well, but I was not as excited about it as I thought I'd be, from the hype. It's a smart novel, but it was a chore until the last 15% or so.

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« Reply #2666 on: May 08, 2017, 03:31:42 AM »


This was by far the worst of these I've looked at. Strangely, they didn't have the guy who did the first half of Presidents continue which is kinda odd.
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“Steven Hayward thinks presidents should be graded on their loyalty to their oath of office. Why, it’s just crazy enough to work!”
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Government scholar Steven Hayward is ready to debunk some of the biggest presidential myths Americans believe are facts.

In Politically Incorrect Guide to the Presidents, Part 2, he traces the legacy of each president from Wilson to Obama and along the way reveals truths most Americans never heard.

JFK was assassinated by a Communist. FDR had the right to run against Hoover. Wilson openly criticized the Constitution. Barack Obama wanted to include Hiroshima and Nagasaki on his world apology tour, but the Japanese government said no thanks. And the 2000 election did, in fact, reach the correct outcome. Uncover new revelations about each President and prepare yourself for an unvarnished look at the truth.

Now, all of these PIG guides have their obvious viewpoint, but I'm a fan of revisionist histories in general as a concept and some of these were actually decent in the past (when they employed historians instead of MPA's probably but whatever) but this one stops being a history around Nixon and then the Clinton, W. Bush and Obama chapters are just amazing polemics about random shit not even tied to the premise of the book. He doesn't even debunk myths but creates them! He calls Wilson and Obama the only college professors to be President, which not only isn't true but is further complicated by the fact that he later says Clinton was a college professor in constitutional law.

As noted in the quote, he grades each President on how well they follow the Constitution, see if you notice a pattern.
Wilson: F
Harding: B+
Coolidge: A+
Hoover: C-

Now I appreciate the Harding love as much as any fan of indisputable facts, but it starts to go off the rails there. See Coolidge gets a higher grade because he mentions the Constitution more even though the author savages his lone Supreme Court pick, while Hoover gets a pass on his record (including his Court picks being called essentially enablers of fascism) because ten years later he came out against FDR? How is this system working?

Roosevelt: F
Truman: C+
Eisenhower: C+
Kennedy: C-

Now the system is totally falling apart. Truman is called out as a vicious tyrant who stacked the Supreme Court with Communists and Eisenhower destroying the nation by appointing Earl Warren allowing abortion to murder trillions of lives and criminals to have legal rights and JFK a horrible womanizer who allowed Communists to secretly run his government but hey, pretty alright because they opposed Soviet Communism and Truman is actually a hero because of this despite what the left wants you to believe? But Constitution...?

Johnson: F
Nixon: C+
Ford: C+
Carter: F

The Nixon chapter is entirely about how he was a secret liberal with the EPA and garbage like that, also he could have won Vietnam but the left undermined him with the phony Watergate scandal, also he and Ford were Communist sympathizers by buying into detente but he appointed great justices while Ford appointed Stevens who eats babies, so same passing grade! Then for Carter, he acknowledges that Carter did not appoint a Supreme Court Justice but:
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He deserves an F grade for his respect and defense of the Constitution, nonetheless, for an unusual reason: his unprecedented and outrageous behavior as an ex-president. Carter does not seem to understand that the nation has only one president at a time.
WHAT ARE WE EVEN DOING AT THIS POINT BOOK :doge

From here on the book doesn't even try to do any kind of history and just attacks the socialist war on our Constitution which mandates the death penalty and outlaws abortion.
Reagan: A-
Bush: B
Clinton: F
Bush: B+
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For his vigorous defense of the president's constitutional power to defend the nation against the threat of terrorism ... Bush deserves a top grade for presidential performance.
Obama: F-
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President Obama's performance on foreign policy was curious, ironic, and hypocritical ... Obama embraced nearly all of [Bush's policies]; and in some cases he aggressively expanded Bush policies.
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But still underneath the surface, Obama gave off every indication ... that he wished to diminish American influence and reduce America's capacity as a world leader.
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It is questionable whether deep down Obama's primary allegiance was to the United States

Overall, I score this book's Constitutional Grade based on this:
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In an off-the-cuff comment, Obama derided [Scott] Brown  by saying, "Anybody can buy a truck. This dismissal of the iconic conveyance of so many working Americans no doubt comes naturally to Prius-driving elites in Cambridge and Hyde Park, but it showed Obama's remoteness from the real lives of most working Americans.

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Re: What book(s) are you reading?
« Reply #2667 on: May 11, 2017, 05:43:36 PM »
Fraud was kinda fraudulent, not actually about fraudsters but like the BBB and FTC and other efforts to regulate them. Madoff and Ponzi combined got a total of three pages in the book.

so onward and upward...

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« Reply #2668 on: May 12, 2017, 12:06:55 AM »
Started something like a Dresden series called Drake: The Burned Man by Peter McLean. Turns out to be about a complete low-life hitman in London, and honestly it's not off to a great start.

Abandoned (for now) METAtropolis: Cascadia, the followup collection of short stories in a shared world, focused on how society and economy might change after a soft apocalypse. The first book was wonderful, but I'm having a hard time keeping up with some of these, because it's been awhile since I read the original batch of stories.

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« Reply #2669 on: May 12, 2017, 01:58:33 AM »
There are a couple books by former secret service agents out there, there were a couple that were anti-Clinton shortly after he left office. I think a new one came out last year too.

Guess there's a reporter who regularly publishes new secret service accounts, Ronald Kessler:
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Never before has a journalist penetrated the wall of secrecy that surrounds the U.S. Secret Service. After conducting exclusive interviews with more than one hundred current and former Secret Service agents, bestselling author and award-winning reporter Ronald Kessler reveals their secrets for the first time.

•    George W. Bush’s daughters would try to lose their agents.
•    Based on a psychic’s vision that a sniper would assassinate President George H. W. Bush, the Secret Service changed his motorcade route.
•    To make the press think he came to work early, Jimmy Carter would walk into the Oval Office at 5 a.m., then nod off to sleep.
•    Lyndon Johnson gave dangerous instructions to his Secret Service agents and ­engaged in extensive philandering at the White House.


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THE FIRST FAMILY DETAIL reveals:
 
·       Vice President Joe Biden regularly orders the Secret Service to keep his military aide with the nuclear football a mile behind his motorcade, potentially leaving the country unable to retaliate in the event of a nuclear attack.
 
·       Secret Service agents discovered that former president Bill Clinton has a blond mistress. Within minutes of Hillary Clinton’s leaving, the woman—codenamed Energizer by agents—shows up to be with Bill every day while the likely future presidential candidate is away.
 
·       The Secret Service covered up the fact that President Ronald Reagan’s White House staff overruled the Secret Service to let unscreened spectators get close to Reagan as he left the Washington Hilton, allowing him to be shot by John W. Hinckley Jr.
 
·       Secret Service agents have been dismayed to overhear Michelle Obama push her husband to be more aggressive in attacking Republicans and to side with blacks in racial controversies.
 
·       Secret Service Director Mark Sullivan diverted agents from protecting President Obama and his family at the White House and ordered them instead to protect his assistant at her home and illegally retrieve confidential records as a favor to her.
 
·       Because Hillary Clinton is so nasty to agents, being assigned to her protective detail is considered a form of punishment and the worst assignment in the Secret Service.
 
·       Secret Service agents were ordered to ignore security rules and allow the SUV carrying actor Bradley Cooper to drive unscreened into a secure restricted area when President Obama was about to deliver his speech at the White House Correspondents Dinner.
 
·       Vice President Joe Biden spends millions of taxpayer dollars flying to and from his home in Delaware on Air Force Two. His office tried to cover up the costs of the personal trips.
 
·       Because the Secret Service refused to provide enough magnetometers at his campaign events, Mitt Romney regularly left himself open to assassination by giving speeches to unscreened crowds.
 
·       Vice President Joe Biden swims nude at the vice president’s residence in Washington and at his home in Delaware, offending female agents. 
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A Danger to Our Country and Leaders
ByMichaelon August 2, 2015
Format: Kindle Edition|Verified Purchase

The author writes an interesting and thoughtful book about a part of government that many people are not very familiar with: the Secret Service. He describes the vast and impressive array of procedures employed in protecting presidents ,current and previous, vice presidents, and their families, as well as cabinet secretaries and political leaders in the line of succession to become president in case of a severe emergency. During a presidential election the leading candidates are also protected.

To accomplish their mission Secret Service agents must work in close proximity to all their protectees, becoming a part of their lives on a daily basis. This gives the agents a clear window through which to observe their personalities and character. Revelations from some of the agents indicate that what transpires in their clients' private lives may not comport with the image that they desire to show to the public.

As examples, the book describes how a number of protectees were especially "nasty" to the agents and their own staffs: Bill and Hillary Clinton, Nancy Reagan, Jimmy Carter and Al Gore.
Especially friendly and respectful to agents were Ronald Reagan, Bush 41 and 43 and their wives, Dick and Lynne Cheney and Mitt and Ann Romney.

edit: this was the one from last year, Crisis of Character: A White House Secret Service Officer Discloses His Firsthand Experience with Hillary, Bill, and How They Operate by Gary J. Byrne
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"I read it cover to cover!"―Sean Hannity, Fox News Channel

"[Crisis of Character] validates the public's growing distrust of Hillary's character. It reminds us of the Clintons' countless scandals and the deficits in their leadership. It is a message from someone who knew them personally, and it is a message we would do well to heed."―Townhall.com

"Former Secret Service officer Gary Byrne offers a ground-zero look at the Lewinsky scandal - and other Bill Clinton misadventures that should have been national scandals - in his new book Crisis of Character. Even though top Clinton White House officials have confirmed Byrne was an honorable officer, the Clinton machine has been working to pressure television networks into ignoring the news and helping Hillary Clinton's campaign by not reporting on the details contained within Byrne's bombshell book."―Breitbart.com

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Re: What book(s) are you reading?
« Reply #2670 on: May 12, 2017, 02:13:46 PM »
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the woman—codenamed Energizer by agents—shows up to be with Bill every day while the likely future presidential candidate is away.

Bill had Ivanka in the White House too???  :whoo :whew :gladbron  :rejoice :phil :quark :itagaki :success :salute
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Re: What book(s) are you reading?
« Reply #2671 on: May 13, 2017, 03:14:43 AM »
Diamond Joe, giving the Secret Service agents a show! Who says he was targeting the ladies?!

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Re: What book(s) are you reading?
« Reply #2672 on: May 18, 2017, 06:35:53 PM »

Jack and PD might like this book. The Walrus too if he was still around. That Cesare Borgia guy from GAF probably has a few copies to laugh about all his friends mentioned in the book.

Most importantly. Apparently John Edwards 2008 campaign signed up for twenty times the number of social media sites as any other campaign. Which is one of those unsurprising appropriate facts.

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Re: What book(s) are you reading?
« Reply #2673 on: May 21, 2017, 09:08:17 PM »
Anyone here ever read The Power Broker: Robert Moses and the Fall of New York by Robert Caro? I'm intimidated by it being 1300+ pages long.

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Re: What book(s) are you reading?
« Reply #2674 on: May 21, 2017, 11:48:26 PM »
I won't read a book that has the name Robert on the cover twice. 

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« Reply #2675 on: May 22, 2017, 06:40:46 PM »
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Re: What book(s) are you reading?
« Reply #2676 on: May 22, 2017, 07:15:43 PM »
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Re: What book(s) are you reading?
« Reply #2677 on: May 22, 2017, 08:18:45 PM »
Anyone here ever read The Power Broker: Robert Moses and the Fall of New York by Robert Caro? I'm intimidated by it being 1300+ pages long.

No, but I'm going to Robert Moses Beach next weekend :P

Actually, I've read a few excerpts a while back (took a few urban planning courses in college), and it seemed pretty interesting.
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« Reply #2678 on: May 22, 2017, 09:07:25 PM »
I took one urban planning course in college and found it interesting. Didn't learn anything about Robert Moses though. First heard about him after reading this yesterday:

http://gothamist.com/2016/02/17/robert_caro_author_interview.php

I ordered the book from amazon this morning. Looking forward to it.

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« Reply #2679 on: May 23, 2017, 05:40:21 PM »
Weird, I was just thinking about that Robert Moses book on the drive this morning and wondering if I should check it out. (Didn't have a name to attach to him though, was gonna come home and google my way to it)
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« Reply #2680 on: May 29, 2017, 02:40:21 PM »
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But the fascists also labor under contradiction. Bourgeois reason is in fact not only particular but general, and its generality speeds the progress of fascism by denying it. Those who came to power in Germany were cleverer and more stupid than the liberals. The progress towards the new order was supported to a large extent by those whose consciousness was not involved in progress: by bankrupt individuals, sectarian interests, and fools. They are protected against error as long as their power prevents any kind of competition. But, in the competition between states, the fascists are not only equally capable of making mistakes but through such characteristics as short-sightedness, obstinacy, and lack of knowledge of economic forces, and above all through their inability to see the negative side of things and include this factor in their estimate of the overall position, they contribute subjectively to the catastrophe which they have always expected in their heart of hearts.

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Re: What book(s) are you reading?
« Reply #2681 on: May 29, 2017, 03:51:16 PM »
Anyone here ever read The Power Broker: Robert Moses and the Fall of New York by Robert Caro? I'm intimidated by it being 1300+ pages long.

Yes, over a decade ago.  Highly recommended.  Took me something like 3 months to finish it though :lol
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« Reply #2682 on: May 31, 2017, 07:35:25 PM »
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/32075825-the-rise-and-fall-of-d-o-d-o

Neal Stephenson's got a new book about to come out. I still haven't chewed through Cryptonomicon.

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Re: What book(s) are you reading?
« Reply #2683 on: May 31, 2017, 09:35:29 PM »
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/32075825-the-rise-and-fall-of-d-o-d-o

Neal Stephenson's got a new book about to come out. I still haven't chewed through Cryptonomicon.

One day I'll finish reading REAMDE. I bought it when it came out and I read about half of it, and five years later I'll still pick it up and read a few more pages every couple of months. It's okay, I still kinda remember what's going on. :lol
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Re: What book(s) are you reading?
« Reply #2684 on: June 01, 2017, 03:38:46 AM »


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« Reply #2685 on: June 01, 2017, 03:44:16 AM »
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/32075825-the-rise-and-fall-of-d-o-d-o

Neal Stephenson's got a new book about to come out. I still haven't chewed through Cryptonomicon.

One day I'll finish reading REAMDE. I bought it when it came out and I read about half of it, and five years later I'll still pick it up and read a few more pages every couple of months. It's okay, I still kinda remember what's going on. :lol

Like videogames, if I step away from a book for any amount of time, I just start over from the beginning. With games, I can't remember the controls. With books, I have NO IDEA who anyone is…

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Re: What book(s) are you reading?
« Reply #2686 on: June 04, 2017, 03:43:12 PM »
i know a number of you guys read this triology and was wondering



did any of you think this was like...bad in comparison to the first two? it seems so meandering and incoherent like it's three books mashed together randomly

and the reagan hate, maybe because of when he came of age this stuff set him off, but he's like writing about all the actual shit Nixon is doing re Vietnam/Watergate as kinda history he's detached observing and then switches to a chapter where he angerly bitches about Reagan embellishing his football exploits in a story to some group and goes on for ten pages debunking it all and then seems to decide we need to spend time on how bad Reagan's movies were like okay dude we get it

maybe it's a function of trying to fit Reagan's entire life history into the ongoing narrative of whatever this series had become at this point, not to mention trying to collapse all of 1960s and 1970s culture into it, probably could have cut those 300 pages out of the book for more interesting stuff

or maybe it's a function of so much already combing through this period that his accidental grand narrative has come to a crashing halt, Before The Storm was like good probably because it wasn't supposed to be the start of a triology, and Nixonland at least had that whole kind of definitive packing of Nixon's juggernaut status plus it's the dark middle chapter amirite

or maybe it's because i recently read that Landslide book up a few posts and that did the same Reagan life history gloss in about one-tenth the pages

or maybe it's because i just wanted to get this one out of the way and finally off the stack blocking clearly better stuff that i can actually use and it's in the wake of reading the spoils of war droppin some hot revisionist history like how George Washington was just a jerkass real-estate speculator :lawd

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« Reply #2687 on: June 04, 2017, 03:46:42 PM »
I'm sure my thoughts on the book are somewhere earlier in this thread but I remember being a lot more impressed by Nixonland than this book.

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I just finished this.  It is a great read but I found it inferior to Nixonland.  Which isn't a criticism against the book but Nixonland was so good and it perfectly captured the changing political environment in a way that I haven't found in any other book.  The Invisible Bridge tries to do the same thing but seems to be incomplete.  While Perlstein went really deep into Nixon for Nixonland, it seems like Reagan only got a surface level treatment by comparison, which I think does the book a disservice.  The book's strength, like Nixonland, is that is it very objective.  There is no real slant and I think Perlstein goes to great lengths to make sure that the book is as factual as possible.

I will probably check out the first book in the trilogy about Goldwater.
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Re: What book(s) are you reading?
« Reply #2688 on: June 04, 2017, 04:16:51 PM »
Ahh cool, you found the whole original discussion a few posts up when Joe posted about it.

Looking back, then checking the index again like I had to on some other books recently when this came to mind, this book also reminds me of a running subplot of books about this era that fascinate me.

How little George H. W. Bush exists in them. (Cheney and Rumsfeld too.)

Bush went from head of the RNC in the middle of Watergate to nearly becoming the VP or at least nominee three times in three years before actually becoming it with a pitstop in China and at the CIA. And you'd think he didn't exist until he caused Reagan to say he paid for that microphone, and also the irony of him saying "voodoo economics" which was funny eight years later when he suddenly reappeared to run with Willie Horton against Dukakis. When he was part of all of that stuff along with the other two who would show up back up in his son's administration.

It's like that agreement we all somehow made never to talk about Iran-Contra after Ollie North made Congress look stupid and H.W. pardoned everyone because the Wall came down thanks to Reagan and David Hasselhoff personally swinging the hammers.

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« Reply #2689 on: July 12, 2017, 09:42:16 AM »


On reflection, Robby Mook actually comes out of this looking the worst, dumbest and most stubborn even if he was technically correct. And Bernie as even more clueless. (He came to his post-defeat meetings with Obama and Hillary with the assumption that they would help give him control over the party platform in exchange for his endorsement lol, and Obama was like "wtf bro I'm bailing out of town sorta; you're lucky I stayed neutral in all this rather than endorsing Hillary months ago"...also, DWS tried to pull a similar thing in exchange for resigning from the DNC.) Obama, Biden and Bill as maybe the only ones who come off as having any idea that the campaign is falling apart. And the Hillary team were oddly afraid of how eager the three were to go after Trump. Podesta even was upset with Obama for making fun in front of Hillary's staff about how much material Trump was giving them. (They had an assumption that any major engagement with Trump (and earlier Bernie) was granting him ground he hadn't earned and didn't deserve and letting him into a game he shouldn't be playing in, this was their theory of how Sanders won Michigan and nearly stole Iowa, etc. that they had treated him as an equal rather than mostly ignoring him. And they weren't going to allow Trump the same thing, instead they were going to make Trump have to defend Texas and Utah and Georgia and so on.)

Even in all the attention this book got for the silly gossip and crap like how they scored everyone on a one to seven scale of loyalty to Hillary, I'm surprised there was so little attention about the VP non-search. They basically boxed themselves into Kaine from the get go even though Hillary never knew him and had barely ever talked to the guy before. They went on Terry McAuliffe and Obama's word and the fact that he had "experience." There also was a late moment when they realized Warren was a non-starter that they considered asking Biden if he would mull it over but then decided Biden had taken too many shots at Hillary over the years so never even asked or found any role for him to play in the campaign. They created such an extensive checklist that it basically defaulted to Kaine and Vilsack with the latter being more or less disqualified solely because he was Bill's personal pick.

Oddly, I'm not comforted about my months of faux-taunting Democrats, PoliGAF etc. over it being down to Vilsack or Kaine from the start because they're the only ones who fit a "safe model of an idea of a VP" as actually being true. This (or my harping on white backlash against immigrants/darkies being the issue for 2016) doesn't bode well for my McAuliffe 2020 jibes? :lol



Hillary should have tried to take over 19th Century central Europe instead of running for President in 2016. Especially Austria-Hungary. House of Clintons probably couldn't have screwed that up any more than the Habsburgs did.
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Re: What book(s) are you reading?
« Reply #2690 on: July 12, 2017, 09:45:18 AM »
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One of the lessons Mook and his allies took from Michigan was that Hillary was better off not getting into an all-out war with her opponent in states where non-college-educated whites could be the decisive demographic. In Michigan, they believed, Hillary’s hard campaigning had called attention to an election that many would-be voters weren’t paying attention to, and given Bernie a chance to show that his economic message was more in line with their views. So Mook’s clique looked at the elevation of the Michigan primary — poking the sleeping bear of the white working class — as a mistake that shouldn’t be repeated. “That was a takeaway that we tried to use in the general,” said one high-ranking campaign official.
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Re: What book(s) are you reading?
« Reply #2691 on: July 14, 2017, 12:52:16 PM »


A short little easy read by a former Puffington Host writer/video guy. Basically the premise is, he's in New Hampshire for the 2015-16 cycle with no real assignment to follow any single candidate or anything. It peppers in past stories and histories for the NH Primary, along with travelogue like descriptions of towns and random people he meets in bars out in the boonies and so on. It's also full of amazing Lindsey Graham stories which was totally unexpected, after realizing he was done and Trump and Cruz were ascendant Graham apparently just decided to drink (and bowl?) his way around NH until he ran out of cash. Also apparently John Kasich literally does hate everyone and everything, it's not an shtick!

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For his part, Jeb! Bush shook just about every hand in the room before he got to mine.

"Hi governor," I said as I extended my arm toward him. The former governor of Florida gave me a look that I can only describe as impish. He gripped my hand. In the split second in which our thumbs were entwined in the customary masculine greeting, he stuck out his index finger and wiggled it into my palm.

"Secret handshake," Bush said. And then he walked away. No explanation. Just a secret handshake that Jeb Bush developed on the spot and tried out on a reporter he barely knew.
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« Reply #2692 on: July 14, 2017, 01:45:51 PM »
Been reading a lot more as a way to unplug

I wanted to recommend this book by Thomas Nichols: The Death of Expertise: The Campaign Against Established Knowledge and Why it Matters



It's a fascinating look at what is a very real problem we all will face in our lifetimes.  It's got me thinking about picking up a trade skill as a hobby.

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« Reply #2693 on: July 25, 2017, 02:12:52 PM »
So I'm reading the Dark Tower 'cause you know, the movie coming out and in book 2 I made it to the first door and couldn't put it down and read through the whole door in one go. This is a fun book. First book was ok, first 100 pages or so of book 2 was ok, but now this is fun stuff.

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« Reply #2694 on: July 26, 2017, 04:54:37 PM »
Friend of mine hadn't read any Iain M. Banks, so I started him on Use of Weapons. He decided to immediately start reading it, and I'd been saving it for a rainy day — or so I thought. I have a dozen books by Banks, but couldn't find my copy of Use of Weapons. Ended up buying it on Kindle, and bringing it on my trip stateside. I thought I'd have 6 hours in Taipei layover to read it, but ended up keeping my son entertained. Not a euphemism.

So I'm reading The Dark Tower 'cause you know, the movie coming out and in book 2 I made it to the first door and couldn't put it down and read through the whole door in one go. This is a fun book. First book was ok, first 100 pages or so of book 2 was ok, but now this is fun stuff.

The first book is a different feel from everything else in the series. It's an OK series, brilliant at times, but don't expect things to continue in the same vein.

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« Reply #2695 on: July 26, 2017, 10:10:20 PM »
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« Reply #2696 on: July 26, 2017, 10:11:51 PM »
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Only the first and 1.5 were worth reading, IMO. Man-Machine Interface is a mess.

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« Reply #2697 on: July 26, 2017, 10:32:25 PM »
Friend of mine hadn't read any Iain M. Banks, so I started him on Use of Weapons. He decided to immediately start reading it, and I'd been saving it for a rainy day — or so I thought. I have a dozen books by Banks, but couldn't find my copy of Use of Weapons. Ended up buying it on Kindle, and bringing it on my trip stateside. I thought I'd have 6 hours in Taipei layover to read it, but ended up keeping my son entertained. Not a euphemism.

So I'm reading The Dark Tower 'cause you know, the movie coming out and in book 2 I made it to the first door and couldn't put it down and read through the whole door in one go. This is a fun book. First book was ok, first 100 pages or so of book 2 was ok, but now this is fun stuff.

The first book is a different feel from everything else in the series. It's an OK series, brilliant at times, but don't expect things to continue in the same vein.

Yeah, I've heard aaaaaaall about books 5-7 and how bad they are. Even now in book 2, I started reading the 2nd door last night Lady of the Shadows and it was terrible zzzz stuff. It's crazy how it went from couldn't put the book down in door 1 to I'm skimming instead of reading on door 2. I can already see the consistency stuff. I've heard book 4 is pretty awesome though, so I'm looking forward to that.

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« Reply #2698 on: July 27, 2017, 01:34:30 AM »
Friend of mine hadn't read any Iain M. Banks, so I started him on Use of Weapons. He decided to immediately start reading it, and I'd been saving it for a rainy day — or so I thought. I have a dozen books by Banks, but couldn't find my copy of Use of Weapons. Ended up buying it on Kindle, and bringing it on my trip stateside. I thought I'd have 6 hours in Taipei layover to read it, but ended up keeping my son entertained. Not a euphemism.

So I'm reading The Dark Tower 'cause you know, the movie coming out and in book 2 I made it to the first door and couldn't put it down and read through the whole door in one go. This is a fun book. First book was ok, first 100 pages or so of book 2 was ok, but now this is fun stuff.

The first book is a different feel from everything else in the series. It's an OK series, brilliant at times, but don't expect things to continue in the same vein.

Yeah, I've heard aaaaaaall about books 5-7 and how bad they are. Even now in book 2, I started reading the 2nd door last night Lady of the Shadows and it was terrible zzzz stuff. It's crazy how it went from couldn't put the book down in door 1 to I'm skimming instead of reading on door 2. I can already see the consistency stuff. I've heard book 4 is pretty awesome though, so I'm looking forward to that.

It's been years, and I don't recall specifics. I'm just saying that you shouldn't feel bad about tapping out when you want to.

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« Reply #2699 on: July 31, 2017, 03:47:29 AM »
Finished Book 2 of Dark Tower. Was fun! I like how it's a Dark Fantasy rpg series now with its own party like Berserk. Picked up Book 3 The Wastelands and gonna start it up. The books keep getting longer and longer, but at least they still use big font. I swear that 1 page in Dark Tower paperback is like 2 pages in Sanderson's Mistborn books I'm reading.