Evilbore's Presidential Election Thread --Its the Final COUNTDOWN Ba da ba baaaa

[Eric P]

now, is that a burlesque reference or a bubble bobble reference?

[Mandark]

I dunno.  I just googled "balloons pop cooch" and all I'm getting is a funny look from echelon.

[Human Snorenado]

Holy fucking shit.

The new mayor also tended carefully to her evangelical base. She appointed a pastor to the town planning board. And she began to eye the library. For years, social conservatives had pressed the library director to remove books they considered immoral.

[Rman]

Captain Obvious Greenspan sez the country cannot afford the McCain tax cuts in their current form.

http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSN1352446820080913

[Human Snorenado]

Man, that NYT article is so fucking frightening.  She really does seem more and more like Bush the more I read about her.  DO NOT WANT.

Of course it explains SD's lusting after her since she really IS Bush with lipstick.

[Mandark]

The article is pretty scary, yeah.

I'm not sure the pastor on the planning board is a big deal.  We have no idea what sort of authority or compensation is involved.  If it's just some kind of citizen's advisory council then no biggie.


edit: Looks like it's a voluntary part time job, and you can print out an application from the web!

On the other hand it looks like they handle zoning and building permit issues and I know that churches very often have strong opinions on local land use issues.  It's probably best to filter out pastors along with business owners as having conflicts of interest.

[AdmiralViscen]

Or if he's just a regular guy.

[Mandark]

The important thing here is that the 'bore pools its resources to get Triumph on the Wasilla Planning Council.

[laesperanzapaz]

i'd prefer we wean off of Huffington or NYT

[MrAngryFace]

Whats the harm in linking if all the articles have are videos of the candidates saying the stupid things. Quit being WAH WAH. Would you prefer we suck fox news dick while they ignore issues?

[Beardo]

Can I post little green footballs forum posts as news?

[Mandark]

What's meant to be the liberal analog for LGF in this?  HuffPo, NYT, or something else?

[Beardo]

I find huffington post about as legitimate as LGF.

[Van Cruncheon]

democratic underground, which thankfully no-one here cites

huffington post is just the librul drudge, and we're cool with drudge: no homophobes here at librulbore!

[Mandark]

Seriously, LGF and HuffPo ain't close.

If you're gonna find something on the left that matches the hysterical race war clash of civilizations viewpoint from LGF you'll need a heavy dose of Truthers, which I assume DU has.

[MrAngryFace]

Huffington Post does a good job consolidating dirt I care about; and its legitimate dirt. No im not talking about the colored commentary, im talking about the videos and hard evidence provided in between. There is nothing wrong with posting FACTS where they can be found. Its not like we were all spamming the 'distinguished mentally-challenged fellow baby really her daughters' story or that we're taken in by every fucking rumor. The shit we post is legitimate dirt on a shitty fucking candidate. grow a pair

[Van Cruncheon]

what DOES the right find so objectionable about obama, other than the fact that he's well-educated and a great orator? don't give me that shit like "he's a socialist," because a) obama is not even close to a socialist (and it's a shame), and b) most conserva-tards don't even know what socialism is. (hell, socialism would probably benefit the under-educated middle-class rural types who vote conservative more than the urban educated elite.)

and where's the conservative appeal in a demonstrably hypocritical, hyper-religious yokel like palin? is the presidency just a sporting match to them, where they hafta stick it to those snotty city folk on the other team who sneer at their superstition, racial fears, and general paranoia?

[Beardo]

Considering the Bible is one big socialist handbook it surprises me that the evangelists keep voting for the right. Not that I am complaining.

[Mandark]

The right wing of American politics is based on traditionalist white schadenfreude.

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Okay, that's a simplification but I think it's a damn good one.  I dare you to do better using just one adjective, one color, and a noun.

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[MrAngryFace]

Tina Fey, made for the role

[laesperanzapaz]

Huffington Post does a good job consolidating dirt I care about; and its legitimate dirt. No im not talking about the colored commentary, im talking about the videos and hard evidence provided in between. There is nothing wrong with posting FACTS where they can be found. Its not like we were all spamming the 'distinguished mentally-challenged fellow baby really her daughters' story or that we're taken in by every fucking rumor. The shit we post is legitimate dirt on a shitty fucking candidate. grow a pair

i was just suggesting that leaning on NYT and Huff, who are so clearly one of thos Web 2.0 circle jerk blogs that obsess over one side over the other, should be done minimally and in moderation.

how about you lay off the Amirox-level smarminess for a chance?  You realize that Poli-EB oft resembles PoliGAF, minus the excess population?

[MrAngryFace]

u mad?

[Mandark]

Yeah, polibore isn't always great but I don't see anything wrong with what MAF's doing.

If you're just going to link to transcripts, excerpts, and video without commentary, what's the point of linking to multiple sites?  A symbolic nod towards open-mindedness which doesn't change the content at all?

[Eric P]

Tina Fey, made for the role

ha ha ha

[Human Snorenado]

i'd prefer we wean off of Huffington or NYT

I could see Huffington, but NYT is an actual newspaper and has to cite actual sources for any article it writes.  And that was an article, not an editorial.

[Beardo]

CNN just debunked a bunch of these internet rumors.

[Human Snorenado]

CNN just debunked a bunch of these internet rumors.

Did they debunk the one where McCain and Palin are a bunch of lying liars that lie a lot?

Oh wait, that's a fact.  Can't debunk those!

[MrAngryFace]

How about you provide a link cap'n. I went to CNN and saw nothing on the front page or the politics page right off. They probably debunked all the shit I dont care about and knew were rumors to begin with, like anything involving her family.

[siamesedreamer]

I actually don't mind HuffPo. From what I've seen, its better than Kos/TPM/TP.

And who cares about the NYT? We all know where they stand and what their agenda is.  
 

[siamesedreamer]

I know last week CNN debunked the 6000 years-Dinosaur rumor (which SNL decided to throw in the skit).

Some blogger pulled it directly from his ass.

[MrAngryFace]

Didnt care or discuss the 6000 year dinosaur rumor, its not relevant to the issues.

[recursivelyenumerable]

If you're gonna find something on the left that matches the hysterical race war clash of civilizations viewpoint from LGF you'll need a heavy dose of Truthers, which I assume DU has.

I suggest boycottnovell.com

[ShogunOfFear]

a) obama is not even close to a socialist (and it's a shame), and b) most conserva-tards don't even know what socialism is.

Some of his policies (or goals if you'd prefer to call them that) adopt tools of socialism.

[Ganhyun]

a) obama is not even close to a socialist (and it's a shame), and b) most conserva-tards don't even know what socialism is.

Some of his policies (or goals if you'd prefer to call them that) adopt tools of socialism.

Item 1 in Obama's list of goals/plans: Healthcare.

[The Fake Shemp]

The Palin bounce has erased Obama's lead in the national polls, and it has now cut into his electoral-vote advantage, according to NBC’s latest map. Obama holds a 233-227 edge here, down from his 228-200 advantage from last week. The biggest changes: We moved Florida -- with its 27 electoral votes -- from Toss-up to Lean McCain, and New Mexico from Toss-up to Lean Obama. We also shifted Oregon and Washington from Likely Obama to Lean Obama, as well as Alaska, Georgia, North Dakota and South Dakota from Lean McCain to Likely McCain. The good news for McCain is that the map looks better for him than at any point so far in this race, and many of those red states that looked like opportunities for Obama (AK, GA, IN) look to be longer shots for him. The bad news for McCain is that given the wave his campaign has been riding from the Palin bounce, is this as good as it gets? If he isn’t leading in some states now, he might not ever lead in them. Bottom line: You'll know the map is starting to move in one direction or the other if either Pennsylvania or Florida moves back into Toss-up before Election Day.

PALIN

[Beardo]

I would put money on mccain at this point.

[MrAngryFace]

I'm beginning to think that while Obama may be the President that we in America need, McCain might be the President we deserve. 

This. We're that fucking stupid.

[The Fake Shemp]

I don't want McCain anymore than Triumph does, but it is becoming more and more of a reality.  All VP picks from hence forth will be MILFs.

[MrAngryFace]

Issues dont matter. We'll continue to choose bad candidates until we crumble, apparently.

[Barry Egan]

you guys might want to calm down a little, it really is too early to put McCain in for a lock.

[y2kev]

SAVE US SARAH!!! SAVE US!!!

[Bloodwake]

God, I fucking hate this country. I especially will if McCain and this fucking pathetic excuse for a vice president get elected.



People are fucking distinguished mentally-challenged.

[y2kev]

God, I fucking hate this country. I especially will if McCain and this fucking pathetic excuse for a vice president get elected.



People are fucking distinguished mentally-challenged.

Look at this sexist babble. Who can save us from financial diaster? SARAH!!!! She CAN SEE RUSSIA FROM HER HOUSE

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Obama will lose.

The more people attack Palin, the better off she is.  Biden doesn't have star appeal and the Obama "celebrity" wave has passed a long time ago, when it was the primaries.  If the media really wanted Palin gone, they should just not mention her at all and ignore her, kind of like what they do to Biden, Obama, and McCain.  Instead, like dumbasses, they report everything she says and does that day.  What she says is irrelevant to her popularity, which is how she can say so much stupid shit and get more than a free pass for it.

Maybe the media will talk about her so much that they will get sick of her but the people haven't grown tired of Lindsay Lohan or Britney Spears and they've been overexposed for years.

[duckman2000]

I'm beginning to think that while Obama may be the President that we in America need, McCain might be the President we deserve. 

This. We're that fucking stupid.

Three consecutive doomsday cabinets would suggest that there may be something to this.

[MrAngryFace]

If McCain does win, it just seals the 2008 sucked deal.

[MrAngryFace]

I'd vote phelps for vp before palin

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

The Dark Knight was awesome too.

[Phoenix Dark]

The Palin bounce has erased Obama's lead in the national polls, and it has now cut into his electoral-vote advantage, according to NBC’s latest map. Obama holds a 233-227 edge here, down from his 228-200 advantage from last week. The biggest changes: We moved Florida -- with its 27 electoral votes -- from Toss-up to Lean McCain, and New Mexico from Toss-up to Lean Obama. We also shifted Oregon and Washington from Likely Obama to Lean Obama, as well as Alaska, Georgia, North Dakota and South Dakota from Lean McCain to Likely McCain. The good news for McCain is that the map looks better for him than at any point so far in this race, and many of those red states that looked like opportunities for Obama (AK, GA, IN) look to be longer shots for him. The bad news for McCain is that given the wave his campaign has been riding from the Palin bounce, is this as good as it gets? If he isn’t leading in some states now, he might not ever lead in them. Bottom line: You'll know the map is starting to move in one direction or the other if either Pennsylvania or Florida moves back into Toss-up before Election Day.

PALIN

She hasn't done anything but make leaning red states become red states again.

[Ganhyun]

I would put money on mccain at this point.

so whats the line on this then?

[TakingBackSunday]

I don't know, I still think it's too close to call as for right now.  I think Obama obviously will win the Kerry states plus a few others that Kerry COULDN'T win...Obama will win, but not by much.

Cause America is fucking stupid.

[Ganhyun]

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2008/09/15/wynter.oprah.boycott.cnn

Hmm, women boycotting Oprah for not interviewing Palin on her show.  

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Yes I watched the viedo and know that while the election is going on she wont interview either side until the election is over.  

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I agree with that stance too. She chose a side and interviewing the side she chose would be considered a non interview since she already supports Obama and interviewing Palin would not be fait/objective either.

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Just to make you look  

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[Phoenix Dark]

If someone put a gun to my head and told me to bet who'd win I'd say McCain. Obama has been on defensive since this fucking thing began, and totally refuses to attack. These "waah McCain is playing dirty" ads are about as effective as Kerry totally ignoring the swift boat shit until it was too late.

I should probably just ignore all news until the first debate because this is pissing me off

[Ganhyun]

Adding fuel to the fire

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/11/beck.palin/index.html


Quote from the article, lol.

"She has no experience!"

It's fair to assume that Barack Obama believed he was qualified to be in the White House when he announced he was running for president. At that point, he had been a U.S. Senator for 767 days. When Sarah Palin was announced as a vice presidential candidate, she had been the governor of Alaska for 634 days.

While I'm sure those extra 133 days were filled with personal discovery, I can't imagine anyone seriously trying to make the case that Obama is experienced and Palin isn't.

Unless, of course, you're Matt Damon, who said a Palin presidency would be a really "scary thing" because she has been "governor of Alaska for...for less than two years!" (Damon originally expressed his presidential preference for Obama in December 2006, when he had been a senator for less than two years.)

More importantly, Palin's career has been filled with executive experience. She's the only one of the four in this race who has run a business, town, and/or state (a state that gives her crucial energy experience in the middle of an energy crisis).

When Obama's campaign complains that Palin would be one heartbeat away from the presidency, they should consider that their candidate would be zero heartbeats away.

Does make sense though. People want to say she has no experience and claim free pass, but yet the same would apply for Obama.

Also, a link to the transcript of the view.

http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/15193/

WTF @ Whoopi. Does she really think that Americans would put her back into slavery? What a MORON. Things like that and what Cameron Diaz said back in the last election also kill Democrats' legitness in the eyes of more conservative people.

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Yes I know Republicans says stupid shit too. Just saying.

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[patrickula]

Obama's career preceding joining the Senate was very different from Palin's.  Looking at it as two years as a governor vs two years as a senator is just dumb.

[Ganhyun]

Obama's career preceding joining the Senate was very different from Palin's.  Looking at it as two years as a governor vs two years as a senator is just dumb.

community organizer. So much more experience.

 

[Beardo]

I really think Experience is overrated. I think average Joe Blow from the farm could make a better president than the most experienced of senators or governors.

[TakingBackSunday]

Obama's career preceding joining the Senate was very different from Palin's.  Looking at it as two years as a governor vs two years as a senator is just dumb.

community organizer. So much more experience.

 

I'd argue that I would trust a community organizer more.  But eh, I'm biased.

[MrAngryFace]

I think I would place 'tells the truth' over experience, but since Palin does nothing but lie...

[TakingBackSunday]

Agreed