Movie News, Reviews, and Discussion Super-Thread

[Great Rumbler]

I'll watch anything directed by Duncan Jones at this point.

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Both of his movies are really good and I can't wait to see what he does next. So there.

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WELL OKAY

[Dickie Dee]

I'm no Raimi fan at all but think he was probably a better fit. Hopefully he's directing because he wants to and not just because money

He has great concepts but his execution is flawed to say the least. His movies are good but are never great. He's he kind of guy who if he improves later on his movies will be some awesome shit.

Wut? that's opposite of being right. Source Code is a shit concept executed wonderfully.

[Diunx]

Well he is not the kind of director that you go a offer a bucket of movie to make your 100+ million dollar movie.

If Legendary choose him it must be for a reason, there are cheaper and more commercial directors out there.

[Bacchus7]

So instead of making that Blade Runner like movie with the mute protagonist he'll be working on a shitty movie for a shitty videogame? He must be a disappointment.

I hope you mean WoW and not the RTS'es, else you and I are gonna tango.

[Diunx]

Warcraft 3 story >>>>LOTR

[Great Rumbler]

Ideally, this movie will be totally CG and will be a cooperative effort with Blizzard's animation department. I'm guessing it'll be live-action, though.

[Joe Molotov]

Uwe Boll sheds a single tear.

[Cerveza mas fina]

Warcraft 3 story >>>>LOTR

I dunno, maybe the movie but not the book.

Also this better be set between w3 and wow otherwise it will suck.

[Robo]

Source Code was AWFUL.

[HyperZoneWasAwesome]

in news that's not worth arguing about, the sequel to The Raid began production today.
the best news, its a hundred day shoot, lots of time to massage those action scenes into meeting their already sky-high bar of excellence.  Hell Yeah!

[Phoenix Dark]

Warcraft 3 story >>>>LOTR

I dunno, maybe the movie but not the book.

Also this better be set between w3 and wow otherwise it will suck.

Specifically the Arthas plot IMO. And I also wish it'll be computer animated

[Dickie Dee]

The Arthas plot is everything I'd want out of a videogame plot. The genuine praise but also back-handed compliment in saying that is intentional.

[Great Rumbler]

in news that's not worth arguing about, the sequel to The Raid began production today.
the best news, its a hundred day shoot, lots of time to massage those action scenes into meeting their already sky-high bar of excellence.  Hell Yeah!

It's not really a surprise that they're doing a sequel, I guess, but this news pleases me exceedingly nonetheless.

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The Asphyx.  I love me some 70s British horror but this was just...well more goofy than anything.

Just saw that this movie went up on Netflix Streaming.

[Eel O'Brian]

sounds like he is saying "the assface"

THE ASSFACE

MORE THAN A MYTH...MORE THAN A MAYBE

[Great Rumbler]

Oh, and Netflix also added a whole bunch of new Jean Rollin and Jesus Franco movies. Ya know, if you're into that sort of thing.

[cool breeze]

allegedly Duncan Jones was on the short list to directing that new Superman  There are conflicting reports about what happened. One stated that he was uncomfortable directing such a large movie, and another said he had a grander vision and WB didn't want to wait that long, so Snyder was chosen.  I dunno.  Either way, he's about the only interesting part of this 'warcraft' movie.

[Dickie Dee]

Maybe the former? Snyder's Superman is supposed to be pretty big

[Eric P]

more importantly it added all the Peter Walker films as well

[ManaByte]

another said he had a grander vision and WB didn't want to wait that long, so Snyder was chosen. 

Translation: He didn't want to use the shitty Nolan/Goyer "grounded in reality" script, and Snyder would play ball.

[Great Rumbler]

Despite some fantastic affectations, I would argue that Duncan Jones movies are fairly "grounded in reality."

[Verdigris Murder]

That looks pretty bad Eric. Have you seen the Abcs of death yet? Its an excellent concept.

[ManaByte]

Superman isn't Batman. Everything Goyer has said so far makes it sound like they're just making this the fourth movie in the Nolan series, but with Snyder directing.

[Verdigris Murder]

The ADD's of death morelike guys!!!!

[Eric P]

i have a soft spot for 70s exploitation because the people who got me into the weird end of cinema had a soft spot for it

yeah it's not "good" filmmaking by any means but it's certainly entertaining

[Cormacaroni]

grounded Superman is the worst Superman

[ManaByte]

Trailers make it look big, where are you getting all this grounded talk from?

Goyers interview in the new Empire where he said he wrote it like it wasn't a comic book but instead realistic.

[Cormacaroni]

Trailers make it look big, where are you getting all this grounded talk from?

dude hitchhiking glumly, dude being glum on a fishing boat, rain everywhere, somber preaching from God/Jor-El on responsibility responsibility responsibility, Jesus Christ pose while being baptized OH THE SIGNIFICANCE

i dunno, it looks like the most predictable boring tripe i've seen yet with the character. Give me 4th dimensional mayhem with Mr Mxyzptlk or Beppo the Super Monkey over this shit anyway

[cool breeze]

Trailers make it look big, where are you getting all this grounded talk from?

Goyers interview in the new Empire where he said he wrote it like it wasn't a comic book but instead realistic.

There's more to it than that, ignoring how vague 'realistic' means for a film about a guy flying around in a onesie.  It was compared to ET or the day the earth stood, and how Superman is mankind's first contact with extraterrestrials, and the alien qualities of the character.

I took that to mean something like, well, in Thor, you have all these aliens battling it out in some town and it ends with "oh, alien guy, join our superhero team."  Superman is "FUCK it's a space monster! call the government and experiment on this dude!" and Ma and Pa Kent want to stop people from finding out for that reason, and Clark is all depressed and shit because he knows he can help people but exposing himself might be worse.  Wait, so it's like Ang Lee's Hulk...fu

I dunno.  The trailers did nothing for me but I'm not unhappy about what they're doing with it.  I agree that it's a bit sad that if they'll continue with this direction we won't see the 'out there' aspects of Superman.  And since DC will go forward with Justice League, because because, Darkseid or Mongul will be saved for those.  Doomsday could go either way, like, Superman dies in Justice League 3 and is resurrected in Superman 5.  What we'll end up with is Lex + Metallo + Parasite, maybe Braniac, and then they'll reboot it.

[ManaByte]

As much as I like to shit on Frank Miller for his recent work, this quote is on point:

People are attempting to bring a superficial reality to superheroes which is rather stupid. They work best as the flamboyant fantasies they are. I mean, these are characters that are broad and big. I don't need to see sweat patches under Superman's arms. I want to see him fly.

And that's exactly why Avengers made a shitload of money. But DC/Warner is blind to that and keep sucking off Nolan to copy the Batman movies.

[Diunx]

Nolan's style worked great with Batman but honestly everyone is sick of the "human" side of superman but sadly we will get more than that with this movie but now with slow mo, smh

[ManaByte]

I'm also sick of rubber superhero costumes. They got it right with Cap's costume in Avengers. It wasn't rubber, but it looked good on screen. They need to do something similar with the next Batman with a real cape and cowl.

[Barry Egan]

As much as I like to shit on Frank Miller for his recent work, this quote is on point:

People are attempting to bring a superficial reality to superheroes which is rather stupid. They work best as the flamboyant fantasies they are. I mean, these are characters that are broad and big. I don't need to see sweat patches under Superman's arms. I want to see him fly.

And that's exactly why Avengers made a shitload of money. But DC/Warner is blind to that and keep sucking off Nolan to copy the Batman movies.

batman, too, made a shit load of money.

[ManaByte]

As much as I like to shit on Frank Miller for his recent work, this quote is on point:

People are attempting to bring a superficial reality to superheroes which is rather stupid. They work best as the flamboyant fantasies they are. I mean, these are characters that are broad and big. I don't need to see sweat patches under Superman's arms. I want to see him fly.

And that's exactly why Avengers made a shitload of money. But DC/Warner is blind to that and keep sucking off Nolan to copy the Batman movies.

batman, too, made a shit load of money.

The Avengers: $623 million
The Dark Knight Rises: $448 million

Avengers made an entire MIB 3 more than Batman.

[AdmiralViscen]

Shark Tale: $160M
The Princess and the Frog: $104M

That's nearly a John Carter. Disney must abandon traditional animation and start sucking off Robert DeNiro

[Boogie]

As much as I like to shit on Frank Miller for his recent work, this quote is on point:

People are attempting to bring a superficial reality to superheroes which is rather stupid. They work best as the flamboyant fantasies they are. I mean, these are characters that are broad and big. I don't need to see sweat patches under Superman's arms. I want to see him fly.

And that's exactly why Avengers made a shitload of money. But DC/Warner is blind to that and keep sucking off Nolan to copy the Batman movies.

batman, too, made a shit load of money.

lol, you're engaging with ManaByte.

[Phoenix Dark]

Didn't TDKR nearly make a billion worldwide, while TDK did make a billion? All three films did great. The more serious tone fit the character; modern Batman is quite serious, some of his best source material is mature, etc. I'd love to see a gritty, dark Daredevil film for instance, but Superman and most other characters should not be Nolanized.

Superman is a shitty character and most Superman films suck, come at me. He's not particularly popular today and I doubt this film will change that.

Another thing this tells me is that DC can't compete with Marvel in terms of superheroes. All they have is Batman, I don't see any of the other JLA having huge films like Thor or Captain America. Anyone want to see a Flash film? What about Wonder Woman? Martian Manhunter? The characters are boring thus leading to forced semi-comedies like Green Lantern. And without Bale as Batman what's the point of a JLA film.

[ManaByte]

Didn't TDKR nearly make a billion worldwide, while TDK did make a billion? All three films did great. The more serious tone fit the character; modern Batman is quite serious, some of his best source material is mature, etc. I'd love to see a gritty, dark Daredevil film for instance, but Superman and most other characters should not be Nolanized.

Superman is a shitty character and most Superman films suck, come at me. He's not particularly popular today and I doubt this film will change that.

Another thing this tells me is that DC can't compete with Marvel in terms of superheroes. All they have is Batman, I don't see any of the other JLA having huge films like Thor or Captain America. Anyone want to see a Flash film? What about Wonder Woman? Martian Manhunter? The characters are boring thus leading to forced semi-comedies like Green Lantern. And without Bale as Batman what's the point of a JLA film.

Bale wasn't a good Batman. Batman doesn't smoke a carton a day, but Bale's seemed to. Batman also doesn't quit being Batman because his girlfriend dies.

[Phoenix Dark]

Dude I think Bale's Batman is bad and his Bruce Wayne is alright. But most people disagree with us and want to see Bale as Batman in more films. Recasting him would defeat the purpose of a JLA film IMO. They need to establish these characters in the minds of the audience, and a recast would hurt their most bankable star/character.

Anyone outside of gay dudes and 13 year old girls want to see Robin Blake as Batman?

[Great Rumbler]

Bale wasn't a good Batman. Batman doesn't smoke a carton a day, but Bale's seemed to. Batman also doesn't quit being Batman because his girlfriend dies.

Batman's parent also weren't killed by The Joker. What's your point?

[ManaByte]

DC is doing the reverse Marvel with JLA. Introduce the characters there and then spin them off into solo movies after.

Bale's Batman doesn't fit in the same universe as Darkseid.

[Phoenix Dark]

Good luck with that. The exposition and character introductions will take up half the movie lol

[ManaByte]

Well they say the current script does have the Ryan Reynolds GL (though written differently) and the Cavill Superman in it. Just Batman, Wonder Woman, and Flash are new.

[Verdigris Murder]

I literally just rewatched Session 9, and its aged really well.

[Verdigris Murder]

Also Dark Shadows is actually really good.

[Cormacaroni]

DC is doing the reverse Marvel with JLA. Introduce the characters there and then spin them off into solo movies after.

Bale's Batman doesn't fit in the same universe as Darkseid.

and that's exactly why it would be awesome

[Great Rumbler]

I'm still interested in seeing the new Superman movie, but I agree that a Superman movie with lots of crazy intergalactic villains and superman punching a whole through a hundred skyscrapers would be really great. Also, I really hate what they did with The Green Lantern.

"Hey, I've got a great idea! We'll set up the intergalactic menace and this council on another planet full of aliens who fight intergalactic menaces ALL THE TIME but then the intergalactic menace attacks one Earth city and this regular guy fights it by himself because whatever!"

BLERGH.

It was also just boring as can be from front to back.

[Cormacaroni]

I'm still interested in seeing the new Superman movie, but I agree that a Superman movie with lots of crazy intergalactic villains and superman punching a whole through a hundred skyscrapers would be really great. Also, I really hate what they did with The Green Lantern.

"Hey, I've got a great idea! We'll set up the intergalactic menace and this council on another planet full of aliens who fight intergalactic menaces ALL THE TIME but then the intergalactic menace attacks one Earth city and this regular guy fights it by himself because whatever!"

BLERGH.

It was also just boring as can be from front to back.

Yeah, I think they should have saved the whole OA deal for later and just set the whole thing on Earth or at least in the solar system. The whole thing felt schizophrenic with the shuttling back and forth, and it all just served to diminish Hal Jordan even further than all the putdowns from every single person he knew on Earth. It's that fucking Hero's Journey/3 act structure bullshit again. I don't need to see his personal growth. I didn't need to see Indy Jones growing as a human being either. Silly serial heroes can just be silly serial heroes ya know? Arrow on TV is a bit like that too, with the way every single person Ollie meets is giving him shit about something he should be doing or did or says or thinks constantly

[Mandark]

Bale wasn't a good Batman. Batman doesn't smoke a carton a day, but Bale's seemed to. Batman also doesn't quit being Batman because his girlfriend dies.

I dunno.  We're talking about a guy who dresses up like it's Halloween and assaults strangers every night while constantly lying to people and guarding against genuine social interaction in his "real" life, all because his parents were shot two or three decades before.  Whatever Bruce Wayne's strengths, a healthy grieving process ain't one of them.

[cool breeze]

I'm still interested in seeing the new Superman movie, but I agree that a Superman movie with lots of crazy intergalactic villains and superman punching a whole through a hundred skyscrapers would be really great. Also, I really hate what they did with The Green Lantern.

"Hey, I've got a great idea! We'll set up the intergalactic menace and this council on another planet full of aliens who fight intergalactic menaces ALL THE TIME but then the intergalactic menace attacks one Earth city and this regular guy fights it by himself because whatever!"

BLERGH.

It was also just boring as can be from front to back.

Yeah, I think they should have saved the whole OA deal for later and just set the whole thing on Earth or at least in the solar system. The whole thing felt schizophrenic with the shuttling back and forth, and it all just served to diminish Hal Jordan even further than all the putdowns from every single person he knew on Earth. It's that fucking Hero's Journey/3 act structure bullshit again. I don't need to see his personal growth. I didn't need to see Indy Jones growing as a human being either. Silly serial heroes can just be silly serial heroes ya know? Arrow on TV is a bit like that too, with the way every single person Ollie meets is giving him shit about something he should be doing or did or says or thinks constantly

yeah, a better way to handle it would've been a smaller threat on earth (just the homeless guy) and a tease of a greater thread (parallax) for the sequels.  First movie is Hal coming to terms with what happened, and is pretty reckless with his powers but ultimately stops the bad guy.  Maybe you have Parallax show up and Hal is powerless to stop it.  But then Sinestro and other green lanterns show up and drive Parallax away, and the movie ends with Hal arriving at Oa to train and accept his new role as space cop.  And then Green Lantern: The Second One can be Training Day in space with weirdos in green tights.  I dunno. 

There was a lot wrong with the Green Lantern movie.  I didn't particularly like any of the stand alone Marvel movies, except Iron Man 1, but I liked Green Lantern even less than those.  Mark Strong  was cool as Sinestro, as was Angela Basset as Amanda Waller...that's about it.  Doesn't really matter if they're going forward with the Justice League movie...depending on how well Su--Man of Steel does, people will go see it for Batman and Superman.  It'd be novel if they have him try and arrest Superman for some reason or another, just to play up the space cop angle.

[ManaByte]

So Pacific Rim screened yesterday in Burbank:
http://www.pacificrimmovie.net/news/reactions-from-pacific-rim-test-screening/

Rian Johnson @rianjohnson (Twitter)
Go into Pacific Rim prepared to be transmogrified into a 12 year old. And then to pee your pants with joy. I love it so much.

[Barry Egan]

Overall, it’s probably the best summer monster movie I’ve seen, and out of summer movies in general, falls behind the new Batman series, but that’s about it. I wrote on their response form that they should be proud of the movie and that I’m glad it’s not another Transformers clone (re: Battleship). They killed it!

Oooof.  Worse than The Dark Marlboro Man?  Summer flop total.

[Joe Molotov]

[Great Rumbler]

Overall, it’s probably the best summer monster movie I’ve seen, and out of summer movies in general, falls behind the new Batman series, but that’s about it. I wrote on their response form that they should be proud of the movie and that I’m glad it’s not another Transformers clone (re: Battleship). They killed it!

Oooof.  Worse than The Dark Marlboro Man?  Summer flop total.

"Really good, but not as good as Batman." ~Random IMDB user

[Phoenix Dark]

But TDKR was bad

[fistfulofmetal]

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[Great Rumbler]

With how good the last Fast & Furious was, and with the cast and crew returning, I'm am definitely hyped up to see this.