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[Tasty]

Sorta related but TIL that Rutger Hauer was in Batman Begins.

[Assimilate]

This is because R.Scott has always been a visual director, much like his younger brother, they were never good script writers or anything. He needs to be handed something solid with proper oversight.

This why Prometheus/Covenant is such a fucking disaster of back and forth studio wrangling. He doesn't know what to do, he ends up defaulting to others and if they don't pull through for him he releases whatever turd he ends up directing.

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Doctor Detroit: Forgettable early Dan Akroyd movie from 1983, where he plays a college professor who gets roped into being a fake pimp after a real pimp makes up a story about an infamous pimp from Detroit muscling in on a crime boss's territory.  The crime boss is named "mom" and the joke is that she's an old lady.  OK.  Fran Drescher plays one of the hookers and James Brown also pops up at the end to sing a song at a players' ball.  And that's about it.  It wasn't that funny, Akroyd's character doesn't seem capable of being the type to pretend to be a pimp, yet just gets right into it like it's no problem.  For some reason, the studio thought this was going to be a huge hit:

In her autobiography, Enter Whining, Fran Drescher commented that this film was expected to be a major hit for the summer of 1983, but that it fell short of that expectation; by the time the film ended its run in theaters, it had only managed to make US$10.8 million, on a budget of US$8 million.

The end titles promised the release of Doctor Detroit II: The Wrath of Mom, meant as a gag based on Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan, released eleven months previously. Aykroyd was said to have been writing the script; however, the project never went into production due to the poor box office results of the original.

[Stro]

What's really amazing is that Prometheus was something that had been kicking around in Ridley's head for a decade+ before it ever got made. He was talking about the idea of meeting your creators and if they'd accept or reject you, if it was worth it, why they made us, etc in the mid to late 90s in general without it being Alien franchise specific, but then in the early 2000s brought it up again on the Alien Quadrilogy DVD set in connection to the Alien universe.

So when he finally made it and it was 2001 by way of AvP.... 

[Tasty]

2001 by way of AvP

Stealing this accurate description of Prometheus for later.

[VomKriege]

This is because R.Scott has always been a visual director, much like his younger brother, they were never good script writers or anything. He needs to be handed something solid with proper oversight.

This why Prometheus/Covenant is such a fucking disaster of back and forth studio wrangling. He doesn't know what to do, he ends up defaulting to others and if they don't pull through for him he releases whatever turd he ends up directing.

The problem is not that he is not a script writer (many if not most guys in Hollywood aren't) but a baffling occasional blindness to the very core of what he is illustrating.

[Great Rumbler]

I don't care what anybody says, this is one of the greatest opening scenes in any movie ever. BR is a fantastic movie that I've watched many times and could break out and watch through again right now. Yeah, okay, it's got some issues here and there that you can pick at if you really want to, but you know what? I don't care. I love Blade Runner, it does virtually everything that I want a scifi movie to do and it does better than pretty much any other movie of its kind. 

[Stro]

No treat for you tonight, doggo


I agree that's a great opening. And I agree the music is great. I agree Rutger is the best part and should have been the lead actor/character. Set design and visual effects are S tier.


But boy is it boring as shit. At least with stuff like Prometheus and Covenant it looks great and isn't good but is often dumb enough to keep me entertained.

[TVC15]

Dude I'm not disputing that the man is insane. I'm mostly referring to his very first two movies and you're bringing up decades later quotes. He probably was always crazy so I'm not sure what changed since then, be that as it may I would describe Alien and Blade runner as two fantastic movies that knew not to show too much and I don't know what Ridley Scotts recent hijinks has to do with that. As, again, I agree that he's a weird asshole who does hilarious shit on the regular.

Anyway, I'm kind of burned out on this subject and know I'm the minority here. Doesn't help that the original is a divisive movie in and of itself. So I'll stop the care posting for now.

Who here’s talking about The Duellists? That’s waaaaaaaaaaaay better than the original Blade Runner, which is like a 6 out of 10 with an asterisk next to it, at best.

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I feel like we missed out on the best version of Alien 3. (This is the draft by Eric Red which he's since disowned, btw.)

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Who here’s talking about The Duellists?

[Joe Molotov]

There was Russ, Terry, Lauren, and Laurie, was this a foursome?

[Tasty]

His draft was notorious for being rushed and essentially just being a bunch of producer ideas cobbled together in script form.

Like I said the author totally disowned it.

[Tasty]

Though it's possible Scott took inspiration from that scene for the completely necessary shower-sex-murder scene in his highly-regarded film Alien: Covenant.

[Leadbelly]

Currently watching Hereditary. I'm still trying to figure out if the girl is distinguished mentally-challenged or not.

[Tasty]

Currently watching Hereditary. I'm still trying to figure out if the girl is lacking in mental fortitude or not.

Well... you'll see.

[Leadbelly]

Currently watching Hereditary. I'm still trying to figure out if the girl is lacking in mental fortitude or not.

Well... you'll see.

Okaaaaaaaaaaay. That was unexpected. I guess whether she was distinguished mentally-challenged or not was the least of her worries.

[Tasty]

I got to reading that script since I found a new fave YT channel.



Dude's vids are 80% making-ofs, 15% his opinion on the movie, and 5% ancilliary elements (soundtrack, games, rides, etc.) This was the fifth of his vids I watched today (Batman Begins is also particularly good) and it won't be the last (Alien Resurrection next!)

For Alien 3 he does a great job summing up my own opinions, mostly.

[Tasty]

Currently watching Hereditary. I'm still trying to figure out if the girl is lacking in mental fortitude or not.

Well... you'll see.

Okaaaaaaaaaaay. That was unexpected. I guess whether she was lacking in mental fortitude or not was the least of her worries.

Well... you'll see.

[Assimilate]

Blade Runner is one of the best sci films of all time. We shouldn't even be entertaining dissenters at this point.

[Stro]

Ridley himself said that 2001 ruined the sci-fi film because nothing could compare, ergo Blade Runner is poop

[Joe Molotov]

Ridley himself said that 2001 ruined the sci-fi film because nothing could compare, ergo Blade Runner is poop

He also said that Prometheus was a good movie, you gonna believe that guy?

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[Mupepe]

Currently watching Hereditary. I'm still trying to figure out if the girl is lacking in mental fortitude or not.

Went to preorder the movie on home release and it’s not coming out on 4K? Wtf?

[Joe Molotov]

Currently watching Hereditary. I'm still trying to figure out if the girl is lacking in mental fortitude or not.

Went to preorder the movie on home release and it’s not coming out on 4K? Wtf?

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/hereditary-includes-digital-copy-4k-ultra-hd-blu-ray-blu-ray-2018/6288344.p?skuId=6288344

[Leadbelly]

Currently watching Hereditary. I'm still trying to figure out if the girl is lacking in mental fortitude or not.

Well... you'll see.

Okaaaaaaaaaaay. That was unexpected. I guess whether she was lacking in mental fortitude or not was the least of her worries.

Well... you'll see.

Yeah. Hail Charlie!

I don't know. Seems to get less interesting the longer it goes on. Becomes more formulaic.

[Tasty]

Currently watching Hereditary. I'm still trying to figure out if the girl is lacking in mental fortitude or not.

Well... you'll see.

Okaaaaaaaaaaay. That was unexpected. I guess whether she was lacking in mental fortitude or not was the least of her worries.

Well... you'll see.

Yeah. Hail Charlie!

I don't know. Seems to get less interesting the longer it goes on. Becomes more formulaic.

Yup, agreed.

[Assimilate]

Ridley himself said that 2001 ruined the sci-fi film because nothing could compare, ergo Blade Runner is poop

2001 is the best sci fi film of all time then i would say The Matrix and then Blade Runner.

[Tasty]

What was the best decade for American blockbuster-y movies?

It's either the 80s or the 90s.

Hard to top T2, Jurassic Park, and The Matrix all within 9 years of each other IMO, so I'm giving it to the 1990s.

[Tasty]

Average quality wise, 80's probably take it, but man. Those three. That trifecta.

I don't think I like any movie from the 80s as much as The Matrix.

[Mandark]

Which was the wildly successful box office hit that's more inexplicable in hindsight?

Crocodile Dundee vs. Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves.

[Tasty]

Which was the wildly successful box office hit that's more inexplicable in hindsight?

Crocodile Dundee vs. Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves.

Twins, starring Arnold Schwarzenegger and Danny Devito.

Adjusted for inflation, it almost made half a bil.

[Huff]

Surf Ninjas was in the 90s.

Need I say more

[Rahxephon91]

Oliver Harper is pretty good. I enjoy his earnest and less cynical look at movies. His retrospectives can be pretty informative and the podcasts/commentaries pretty entertaining.

[Mupepe]

Currently watching Hereditary. I'm still trying to figure out if the girl is lacking in mental fortitude or not.

Went to preorder the movie on home release and it’s not coming out on 4K? Wtf?

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/hereditary-includes-digital-copy-4k-ultra-hd-blu-ray-blu-ray-2018/6288344.p?skuId=6288344

I guess Amazon's stuff is broken.  They list 4k on the initial search results but when you click into the item it's only Blu Ray or DVD.

[MMaRsu]

The two times I tried to watch BR I fell asleep because of boredom and weed

[Assimilate]

the 90s had some really gritty shit. It was a very gritty decade overall.

[Bebpo]

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/end-fing-world-renewed-season-2-netflix-channel-4-1136308

Best TV show of 2017/18 gets more, yayyyy

[shosta]

A perfect movie.

[Stro]

On the docket for Stro's Super Gif Series:

The rest of the Halloween and ANOES series excluding the remakes (currently on Season Of The Witch)
A Trip To The Moon
The Exorcist Extended Director's Cut
The Matrix
The Thing
Prometheus
Total Recall
Exodus Gods and Kangs and maybe Noah because both have some pretty amazing deviations from the source material, and both are quite bad for such gigantic budget, prestige casted epics


Provided my bluray drive can read everything from Prometheus on.

[Mupepe]

I’m pretty excited for your post on the exorcist

[Stro]

I'm bummed the copy of Prometheus my library has doesn't include the super long doc, because I was planning on giffing Ridley being drunk and agreeing to literally anything suggested to him. I'm sure I can find that online pretty easily though.

[Leadbelly]

I miss when horror movies had an adult rating. Although some films really push the boundaries between ratings like Red Sparrow, I feel in horror movies in particular they would probably be better off without the compromise.

[Tasty]

I miss when horror movies had an adult rating. Although some films really push the boundaries between ratings like Red Sparrow, I feel in horror movies in particular they would probably be better off without the compromise.

There's still plenty of adult/R-rated horror films breh.

IT, Get Out, It Follows, You're Next, The Witch, Green Room, SAW, Autopsy of Jane Doe, Crimson Peak, Don't Breath, It Comes at Night, Cabin in the Woods, Trick R Treat, Krampus, V/H/S, The Sacrament, Let Me In/Let the Right One In, EVIL DEAD, Lords of Salem...

I could go on but those are just off the top of my head (with some light research to confirm some of the ratings.)

[Tasty]

In fact between Deadpool and IT I think R-rated movies in general are definitely on the upswing.

[Bebpo]

I think he means like NR stuff that's beyond R. Because yeah there are plenty of R rated horror movies. I'm watching like 2-3 horror flicks a week and out of the last 50 or so horror films I've seen maybe 1 has been PG-13? I feel like they're still all R...

[Leadbelly]

In fact between Deadpool and IT I think R-rated movies in general are definitely on the upswing.

Yeah. Ratings translate a little differently in the UK. An adult rating in the UK is 18 where as the majority of horror movies in the last few years have been a 15 rating. That doesn't always directly translate.

That said, if you look at the original Halloween (1978) it was an X rating, where as Halloween (2018) is an R rating. That doesn't mean the movie can't be good, the quality of the script, and ultimately the execution, will determine that, I just have the feeling with horror movies in particular you're losing something.

[Tasty]

Oh yeah, UK ratings are weird.

[Bebpo]

1922 was ok. I thought Thomas Jane was great and the first 1/2 was interesting but it didn’t do much in the back half. Novella sounds better for that. Liked it a little more than Gerald’s Game but just a little,

[Tasty]

I liked it much less than Gerald's Game, but I hold Gerald's Game in fairly high regard. 1922 bored me to tears.

[studyguy]

So two films.
I saw the IT remake, fantastic film, can't wait for the next one. Recall reading the book when I was younger and creeped out by sewer gangbangs, this one still had weird pedo vibes but from people who got dunked on for being pedos, so all good more or less.

Also saw Hereditary. So I heard it was good...
turns out it's about a dysfunctional white family who needed meds or counseling, maybe a divorce. God damn what a dull film. 

[Tasty]

I saw the IT remake, fantastic film, can't wait for the next one. Recall reading the book when I was younger and creeped out by sewer gangbangs, this one still had weird pedo vibes but from people who got dunked on for being pedos, so all good more or less.

I think dunking on pedos was in the book too. Well, except for that one unnecessarily lurid scene.


Insomnia

Fantastic. This might be weird to say but as much as I liked Gone Baby Gone this felt like a better version in a way. I also read the plot of the movie it's a remake of, and it seems like Nolan's twists were definitely for the better (though the skeleton is still the same.) Pacino is on-point here (though his "sleepy" acting is a tad lazy, but that might have been the intent.) Great morality tale and high-stakes drama.

4 / 5

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"Don't lose your way"

[Tasty]

"Don't lose your way"

So powerful and perfect.

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I really want to mash that line up with Before My Body is Dry from Kill la Kill.

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Edit- Damn you JayDub

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You're alone in the rain
Been thinking of you
You can't stop your tears
When you stayed with me just before
I want to know
Do you love me

 

[Tasty]

(Insomnia is on Amazon Prime Streaming; rewatched it recently, yeah, it's still good.  Everything he's made but Interstellar is good.)

I give more credit to Interstellar than TDK Rises. But yeah he's got a great filmography.

[Tasty]

Blumenkranz the GOAT

Japanese woman singing German lyrics

As for Interstellar, Nolan inherited it from Spielberg IIRC, and even back then it was something of a mess.

Dunkirk was a revelation in theaters and restored my faith in him after it slightly faltered with TDKR and Interstellar back-to-back. I'm really looking forward to his next film -- WW2 movies usually aren't my thing, so I'm excited to see what's next.

[Tasty]

Just realized Following is the only movie I haven't seen of his now, so I'll check that out tonight.

[Momo]

http://www.spoilerfreemoviesleuth.com/2018/08/news-predator-gets-hard-r-rating.html

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