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Cindi Mayweather

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« Reply #35280 on: April 26, 2019, 03:36:03 PM »
Endgame was pretty good. It was less busy than Infinity War with lots of emphasis on intimate character moments. It’s hard to not really get invested in the heroes lives in this one. They did a pretty good job. I’m shocked that for its running time it’s also well paced. It’s divided into three acts and each one works. It’s nice seeing call backs to previous movies. They basically took everything wrong with Infinity War and fixed it. Enjoyable stuff and looks great on an IMAX screen.
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« Reply #35281 on: April 26, 2019, 03:39:09 PM »
I followed Cindi and Joe on Letterboxd. Anyone else here on it?

https://boxd.it/6H8v
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Cindi Mayweather

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« Reply #35282 on: April 26, 2019, 03:50:22 PM »
You gave Mulholland Drive 5 stars? Ah, my favorite Lynch film.
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« Reply #35283 on: April 26, 2019, 03:52:00 PM »
You gave Mulholland Drive 5 stars? Ah, my favorite Lynch film.

I personally like Blue Velvet more, but it’s hard to choose.
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Cindi Mayweather

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« Reply #35284 on: April 26, 2019, 03:55:30 PM »
Blue Velvet is great but I didn’t find it as compelling as Mulholland Dr. I’d rewatch it constantly to understand new scenes.

My least favorite might be Wild At Heart.  Just not my taste.
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« Reply #35285 on: April 26, 2019, 04:14:48 PM »
I followed Cindi and Joe on Letterboxd. Anyone else here on it?

https://boxd.it/6H8v
apparently i am: https://letterboxd.com/benjipwns/films/ratings/rated/5/ 8)

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Adults no longer outgrow comic books. Hollywood prefers that they hang on to the adolescent illusion of carefree, escapist pleasure by pretending that the form’s juvenile cynicism is a sign of sophistication — replacing the traditional sources of imaginative thinking. The cultural monopoly represented by the Marvel Cinematic Universe in its latest release, Avengers: Endgame, depends on geeked-up viewers telling themselves that they are having a major cultural experience.

like the postman, arlo white always delivers.
The Postman probably is a better movie than Disney's Marvel's Avengers: Endgame, true
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« Reply #35286 on: April 26, 2019, 04:25:36 PM »
I followed Cindi and Joe on Letterboxd. Anyone else here on it?

https://boxd.it/6H8v

Alright, I got one started:

https://letterboxd.com/GreatRumbler/

It's gonna take me a thousand years to get it all set it up, though.
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« Reply #35287 on: April 26, 2019, 04:30:40 PM »
I had to lol at the ads before End Game:

Multiple US Air Force propaganda videos (including the pre trailers trivia being US Air Force sponsored), live action Lion King, live action Aladdin, Star Wars

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« Reply #35288 on: April 26, 2019, 04:34:22 PM »
Quote from: review on the front page of letterboxd
Homecoming: A Film by Beyoncé 2019
★★★★  14

looking forward to beyonce: far from home

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« Reply #35289 on: April 26, 2019, 04:41:01 PM »
Blue Velvet is great but I didn’t find it as compelling as Mulholland Dr. I’d rewatch it constantly to understand new scenes.

My least favorite might be Wild At Heart.  Just not my taste.

I don’t like basically anything about Lost Highway.

Check out that “new” Blue Velvet footage if it goes up on Criterion Channel. It’s like 50 minutes of cut content and a significant portion of it is worthwhile. Like, adds to the movie worthwhile.
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« Reply #35290 on: April 26, 2019, 04:49:30 PM »
Best Lynch is either Mulholland Drive or Twin Peaks The Return. Lately I've been favoring The Return more, which probably means it's time for a MD rewatch.

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« Reply #35291 on: April 26, 2019, 04:54:08 PM »
Top Tier:
- Twin Peaks: The Return
- Mulholland Drive

High Tier:
- Eraserhead
- Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me
- Lost Highway

Great Tier:
- The Elephant Man
- Wild at Heart

Haven't seen Dune, Straight Story or Inland Empire yet. I've started Inland Empire a couple times (cause it seems right up my alley) but that runtime is just... very demanding, especially for a movie imposing existential terror.

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« Reply #35292 on: April 26, 2019, 04:56:04 PM »
Just remember, I got to touch a lot of the TP cast at a meet and greet. I touched Sherilyn, Ray, and Madchen.



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« Reply #35293 on: April 26, 2019, 04:56:19 PM »
Other thoughts and scenes from the audience at End Game:

Audience for this showing skewed older (it was 11:45AM on a Friday, after all) than me (so most of the other people were late 30s to mid 50s), wasn't a packed house but for that early of a showing on a week day at this theater, it was the biggest audience I've seen a movie with for probably 3-5 years (maybe even since The Avengers 1). There were multiple people within a few feet of me that were so large I could hear them struggling to breathe the entire movie. There was a little fuck head in the row below me, about 3 seats over, who was checking his phone every few minutes THE ENTIRE MOVIE, and his phone wall paper was weird anime shit. There were multiple instances of LOUD sniffling and nose blowing during possibly emotional moments. This woman/girl a few seats down from me (hard to tell her age in the dark, I assume early 20s) literally rubbed her hands and bounced up and down saying "yes yes yes" quietly to herself during one of the big action moments. There were multiple people getting up to go to the bathroom/get snacks during the first 15-20 minutes of the movie. There was a music change during the credits and a couple of people too big to be running back through the crowd leaving decided to run (relatively speaking) through the crowd, literally pushing people out of their way to see....credits, because there is no after credits scene for this.

Cindi Mayweather

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« Reply #35294 on: April 26, 2019, 04:57:02 PM »
Fun fact: Steve Contra almost wasn't born because of Eraserhead.

Blue Velvet is great but I didn’t find it as compelling as Mulholland Dr. I’d rewatch it constantly to understand new scenes.

My least favorite might be Wild At Heart.  Just not my taste.

I don’t like basically anything about Lost Highway.

Check out that “new” Blue Velvet footage if it goes up on Criterion Channel. It’s like 50 minutes of cut content and a significant portion of it is worthwhile. Like, adds to the movie worthwhile.

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50 minutes?!
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« Reply #35295 on: April 26, 2019, 06:33:36 PM »
Fun fact: Steve Contra almost wasn't born because of Eraserhead.

Blue Velvet is great but I didn’t find it as compelling as Mulholland Dr. I’d rewatch it constantly to understand new scenes.

My least favorite might be Wild At Heart.  Just not my taste.

I don’t like basically anything about Lost Highway.

Check out that “new” Blue Velvet footage if it goes up on Criterion Channel. It’s like 50 minutes of cut content and a significant portion of it is worthwhile. Like, adds to the movie worthwhile.

:o

50 minutes?!

It’s footage he had to cut to make his producer-mandated runtime, so at least some of it would have made it into a theoretical director’s cut.
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« Reply #35296 on: April 26, 2019, 06:44:47 PM »
https://screenrant.com/x-men-dark-phoenix-third-act-reshot/

Will need to see the final movie but from my perspective right now, switching a big cosmic space battle for "Jean Grey playing with trains" doesn't seem like the right move to make if you're intending your movie to go out with a bang.

Then again, Apoc ended with a bunch of splosions and desctruction and that was a big mess...

Just on its face, a space battle sounds cooler than a train one.

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« Reply #35297 on: April 26, 2019, 06:49:02 PM »
The theatrical trailer for Dark Phoenix looked pretty good. I got "Days of future past" vibes, which I liked quite a bit.
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« Reply #35298 on: April 26, 2019, 06:53:09 PM »
The theatrical trailer for Dark Phoenix looked pretty good. I got "Days of future past" vibes, which I liked quite a bit.

I definitely think it's been looking more like a DoFP-type romp than an Apoc-style mess, but I'm kinda nervous Foxney at the last second was like "WAIT let's shove a bunch of reshoot material in that makes it SUPER obvious this universe is getting rebooted soon!"

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« Reply #35299 on: April 26, 2019, 06:54:45 PM »
Honestly if Apoc wasn't such a mess, this could have been a pretty great quadrilogy. Not like, matching the four Avengers movies, but I feel like people just don't care about the X-Men now, and I blame that mostly on X-Men: Apocalypse.

Man, the series was riding so fucking high after Days of Future Past too.

Fucking Bryan Singer.

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« Reply #35300 on: April 26, 2019, 06:57:47 PM »
Blue Velvet is great but I didn’t find it as compelling as Mulholland Dr. I’d rewatch it constantly to understand new scenes.

My least favorite might be Wild At Heart.  Just not my taste.

I don’t like basically anything about Lost Highway.

Check out that “new” Blue Velvet footage if it goes up on Criterion Channel. It’s like 50 minutes of cut content and a significant portion of it is worthwhile. Like, adds to the movie worthwhile.

Fuck me. Itll be like my tenth watch
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Cindi Mayweather

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« Reply #35301 on: April 26, 2019, 07:32:52 PM »
I liked First Class, but then Days Of Future Past just lost me in how Wolverine centric it was.

I do like the X-men movies tho. But then I’m a X-men Stan so it’s hard for me to not like them. I saw the Dark Phoenix trailer and I really want them to go full green Phoenix costume here. Just go full fanservice. Unfortunately I just can’t take Sansa seriously as Jean Grey and the characters look so damn young. Scott basically loses his wife. Are they even married in the movies? Haven’t seen Apoc.
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« Reply #35302 on: April 26, 2019, 07:37:09 PM »
Apocalypse is so fucking bad it goes beyond :lol into :scust Absolutely horrible movie with the ONLY highlights being Fassbender/Mcavoy interactions which were fewer than the previous movies.

Cindi Mayweather

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« Reply #35303 on: April 26, 2019, 07:41:29 PM »
That green costume with the bright red, long, curly hair.



So iconic.
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Joe Molotov

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« Reply #35304 on: April 26, 2019, 07:53:29 PM »
I rage quit the X-Men franchise after Last Stand and haven't watched one since (except Logan, but that barely counts).
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« Reply #35305 on: April 26, 2019, 07:54:57 PM »
Last Stand >>>>>>>>> Apocalypse, easily


Shit Origins is better than Apocalypse because at least it's so bad it's funny, Apocalypse is just utter dreck.

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« Reply #35306 on: April 26, 2019, 07:56:21 PM »
But like has Dark Phoenix been in that costume since that comic

Phoenix Force a few years ago looked pretty different

I'm OK with leaving period-only costumes in that period...

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« Reply #35307 on: April 26, 2019, 07:56:52 PM »
Last Stand is a travesty. Apoc is at least fun with great action.

Cindi Mayweather

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« Reply #35308 on: April 26, 2019, 08:00:59 PM »
I rage quit the X-Men franchise after Last Stand and haven't watched one since (except Logan, but that barely counts).

I hated last stand so much. Check out First Class. Great reboot.
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Cindi Mayweather

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« Reply #35309 on: April 26, 2019, 08:05:33 PM »
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« Reply #35310 on: April 26, 2019, 08:07:18 PM »
:what

Apocalypse's action/CGI/green screen looks awful

kingv

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« Reply #35311 on: April 26, 2019, 08:08:47 PM »
adds to list...



Still gotta see that. Don't Breathe remains king of this new genre.
Don't Breathe is the only one i liked, it had a bit more fun with the premise.
Quiet Place was alright, but took itself too seriously, for how dumb it was.

It comes at Night also had some of that vibe, and was also a disappointment, compared to the trailer.

Didn't even bother with The Silence (seriously, looks like dollar store version of A Quiet POlace) and Birdbox, because i gave up completely on Netflix movies.

Bird box is interesting because it has so many famous actors but still manages to feel like watching a Syfy original movie.

All Netflix originals basically feel like that to me except the cartoons (which probably already have low ass budgets).

But I figure they had to pay Sandra Bullock something to be in that movie, so it’s budget probably wasn’t THAT low. Yet here we are.

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« Reply #35312 on: April 26, 2019, 08:08:48 PM »
Joe Bob night tonight :tauntaun

He read a letter from me on air a few weeks back. My god said my name. How many people can claim that?
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Cindi Mayweather

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« Reply #35313 on: April 26, 2019, 08:15:07 PM »
adds to list...



Still gotta see that. Don't Breathe remains king of this new genre.
Don't Breathe is the only one i liked, it had a bit more fun with the premise.
Quiet Place was alright, but took itself too seriously, for how dumb it was.

It comes at Night also had some of that vibe, and was also a disappointment, compared to the trailer.

Didn't even bother with The Silence (seriously, looks like dollar store version of A Quiet POlace) and Birdbox, because i gave up completely on Netflix movies.

Bird box is interesting because it has so many famous actors but still manages to feel like watching a Syfy original movie.

All Netflix originals basically feel like that to me except the cartoons (which probably already have low ass budgets).

But I figure they had to pay Sandra Bullock something to be in that movie, so it’s budget probably wasn’t THAT low. Yet here we are.

That western tv show they had was good
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« Reply #35314 on: April 26, 2019, 09:01:41 PM »


I'm extremely into this
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« Reply #35315 on: April 26, 2019, 09:07:53 PM »
Started a rewatch of Tarkovskys 'Stalker' and I'm struck by the beginning.  Most films rush towards focusing on a single narrative, from the get, to capture you as quickly as possible but here, it feels like a world is opening up to you. And in that so many possibilities. I fucking love that feeling.

And its extension beyond that is odd in the best way. Like some narrative golden ratio.
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« Reply #35316 on: April 26, 2019, 09:10:11 PM »
Demon Wind is the first movie :tauntaun 🍆🍆🍆🍆🍆🍆🍆🍆🍆
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« Reply #35317 on: April 26, 2019, 09:29:24 PM »
The depths we'd dive for a semblance of inspiration. Missing the forest for the trees.

Different people in different places literally. As far as life experiences. Not representations of facets of oneself but people ready to accept different experiences.
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« Reply #35318 on: April 26, 2019, 09:31:47 PM »
avengers end game
https://twitter.com/CutonDime25/status/1121841144512622594 spoil a movie for 750,000 of your followers brehs :dead
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« Reply #35319 on: April 26, 2019, 09:32:15 PM »
The depths we'd dive for a semblance of inspiration. Missing the forest for the trees.



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« Reply #35320 on: April 26, 2019, 09:51:53 PM »
speaking of avengers spoilers (like lol "spoilers" for that mess) i saw this elsewhere: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Avengers:_Endgame
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As with all other movies, the plot to this movie will be needed to added. But since everyone is going nuts over the spoilers of the movie, should the plot be added as soon as anyone is ready to do it (The regular Way of editing WIKIPEDIA ARTICLES) or wait for a few days until Sunday which will mean that an exception is to be followed here regarding the plot? I will add the plot upto 26th, but can wait
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Please do not add any spoilers to this movie for a couple days. The Russo Brothers clearly stated that they don't want any website spoiling Endgame. Add it on the weekend or something. Respect their wishes, please
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But by doing this, you ARE spoiling it for others on here. Give it some time for people to watch the movie and then post the plot. At least give it a few days.
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Hi Admin,

From one Marvel Fan to another.Please remove the plot from this page as this is spoiling the endgame.

Thank you
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The plot should not summarized just yet. We should show a little respect and not post it now. And there are no real solid sources to cite. You should be aware of We Do Not Post Gossip on Wikipedia. Just chill and wait a few days until we can truly verify this plot. Please be respectful. This does not put a smile on my face.
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You may or may not aware of Russo brothers constant appeal to fans to not spoil Endgame even after if u saw film don't spoil it for others.

https://twitter.com/Russo_Brothers/status/1118219449570455552 As the film just premiered it not even released someone write here the whole plot and You can't say other to avoid or its here beacuse its released in some terriotory.That are very absurd excuses. Anyway as a fan its my humle request to all Marvel fans.Please don't spoil the movie.Its the result of someone' hardwork of years. Dont spoil the Hardwork. Dont spoil the efforts. Dont spoil the Endgame.
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I would summarise all this in one sentence Remove spoiler plot and DontSpoilTheEndgame.
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Bro in the same way no pirated film sites asked users to watch the movie on their site but aren't they are responsible for it. From your point of view all those sites are legal??
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Just beacuse most of people know spoiler its not right to put it for everyone

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« Reply #35321 on: April 26, 2019, 10:20:57 PM »
Abundance vs. Extraction.

The age of manufacturing vs. exploration
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« Reply #35322 on: April 26, 2019, 10:27:17 PM »
Started a rewatch of Tarkovskys 'Stalker' and I'm struck by the beginning.  Most films rush towards focusing on a single narrative, from the get, to capture you as quickly as possible but here, it feels like a world is opening up to you. And in that so many possibilities. I fucking love that feeling.

And its extension beyond that is odd in the best way. Like some narrative golden ratio.

Fun fact about Stalker: A huge portion of the movie was destroyed because the film was improperly processed, forcing Tarkovsky to fire the cinematographer and refilm everything with someone else. Apparently this version is quite a bit different from what was originally filmed.

spoiler (click to show/hide)


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« Reply #35323 on: April 26, 2019, 10:30:03 PM »
Started a rewatch of Tarkovskys 'Stalker' and I'm struck by the beginning.  Most films rush towards focusing on a single narrative, from the get, to capture you as quickly as possible but here, it feels like a world is opening up to you. And in that so many possibilities. I fucking love that feeling.

And its extension beyond that is odd in the best way. Like some narrative golden ratio.

Fun fact about Stalker: A huge portion of the movie was destroyed because the film was improperly processed, forcing Tarkovsky to fire the cinematographer and refilm everything was someone else. Apparently this version is quite a bit different from what was originally filmed.

The form given feels earnest honestly

if I've learned anything its calculated art feels gross to me. There an element of dynamism that is absolutely needed.
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« Reply #35324 on: April 26, 2019, 10:40:36 PM »
Spoiler culture (or whatever it is) has gotten out of hand.
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« Reply #35325 on: April 26, 2019, 10:46:03 PM »
Blue Velvet: Criterion Blu-Ray comes out on my birthday. I know what I'm getting myself this year.
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« Reply #35326 on: April 26, 2019, 10:47:54 PM »
Blue Velvet: Criterion Blu-Ray comes out on my birthday. I know what I'm getting myself this year.
Spoiler culture (or whatever it is) has gotten out of hand.

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« Reply #35327 on: April 27, 2019, 12:23:12 AM »
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« Reply #35328 on: April 27, 2019, 12:32:13 AM »


Godzilla’s trailer was something else on the imax screen. It made me wet.
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« Reply #35329 on: April 27, 2019, 02:55:59 AM »
The Russo Bros are god-tier at pacing a movie. That was my takeaway from End Game.

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« Reply #35330 on: April 27, 2019, 02:56:11 AM »
Damn an American Godzilla movie with ghost rah? Roadan, mothers, and what looked like maybe Anguillar?

I’m assuming Jet Jaguar and King Caesar obviously made the cut.

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« Reply #35331 on: April 27, 2019, 06:30:52 AM »
Big spoilers, but you've already seen Endgame if you are a video game player.

*Only read if you've seen the film or if you don't give a shit*

*final warning*
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The plot to Endgame is very close to the plot of OCARINA OF TIME

Think about it.

- In the 'past' stones are gathered by the heroes (Link and the sages) but Ganon steals the stones and uses them for his evil designs
- He destroys / banishes the sages who could stand against him
- The world falls into a melancholy because there's no hope against this evil

*years pass*

- Link gathers the heroes again for a final confrontation with this enemy in the future (who has already won the past)
- He manages to free his captive friends and sages who all join in for one final battle
- He finally beats the big evil and reverses the land to the way it was before the calamity

If you look at the timeline it even includes 3 different ending scenario's in which the hero either succeeds or fails
Plus he has to manipulate the outcome of past events to have a different endiing in the future
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« Reply #35332 on: April 27, 2019, 08:12:10 AM »
End Game spoiler stuff I want to talk about


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Lol @ how Captain Marvel is literally in 6 minutes of the movie and ultimately could have not been in it at all and nothing would have changed. She has one scene at the start where she says one or two lines, then she appears in a hologram scene shortly after and says one or two lines, then disappears entirely for 2 1/2 hours. She's not mentioned by any of the characters and they're just as surprised as the audience to remember she even exists when she pops up at the end to make a big entrance and look like a bad ass then get power punched off screen like a cartoon character. Absolutely nothing from her movie or storyline was brought up beyond a passing "yeah, where were you all this time" line. Her addition to the MCU as this super over powered being and being the last thing before End Game like she was ultra important now seems like a troll job. She easily could have just popped up in THIS movie for the first time with no back story and it would have been exactly the same.

Cap picking up Mjölnir :aah

Cap finally saying Avengers Assemble :aah

The girl power brigade :aah

Pleasantly surprised to see Rhodey in so much of the movie. He's been such a minor side character in the ensemble movies, yet he was an integral part of the team in this one.

The first act was really interesting because there was zero action, just the somber reality of a world where 50% of the population got turned to dust and how the remainder is dealing with it. Then it ends with lopping off Thanos' head in the first 20 minutes :leon

This movie went so comic booky idk how they can continue the series after this. We're doing time traveling/dimension hopping different characters from different timelines in the wrong time, the epic battle with every character ever. Going forward I have to imagine the solo movies will go smaller and more personal again for a while because it certainly can't get bigger. I got a real :lol at them bringing back almost everyone from every movie, even Natalie Portman, but still wouldn't bring back Coulson to the main crew :lol

It certainly feels like there was a very clear dividing line between before End Game and after End Game. The original team: Tony is dead, Hawkeye went home to be a family man, Hulk is disabled, Cap and Thor passed on their positions (and wtf at Cap giving Falcon his shield when Bucky was RIGHT THERE, he'd known Falcon dude for like 3 years before the snap :lol ) and Thor joined a different team that will be around in space. Thanos is dead in multiple timelines, the Infinity Stones storyline is wrapped up, Cap got his happy moment, Tony got to do a big wrap up of the past decade and all the surviving characters said goodbye. It's a pretty definitive end for a series that still has 15 movies announced. It's a good jumping off point for a lot of people, I think.

Going forward idk about the MCU: The New Avengers: Spiderman, Black Panther, The Falcon as Captain America, Ant Man, Scarlet Witch, Captain Marvel, War Machine, Dr. Strange, Valkyrie as the Queen of Asgard but idk if that means she's filling Thor's role. Thor as part of GOTG. I guess what was telling was that all of the snapped characters were absent for 90% of the movie and I didn't miss them at all. It was rad when they all came back and stuff, but I don't really have much connection to any of them (Hated Homecoming, Falcon has been lame in every appearance, no interest in CM, BP was cool, didn't like Dr. Strange) and am not particularly interested in their stories after this movie. But much like Star Wars, no one is ever really gone, as multiple of the "really dead" characters had already announced movies/series anyway. I'm sure there will be appearances from Tony/Cap in a Disney+ series, especially now that alternate/branching timelines are established in continuity.

Chris Hemsworth must have been so happy to not have to do any extra work in the gym this time around. Every other appearance as Thor he's gone on a crash course and had to put on like 50 pounds before losing it for his next role, this time he could just be his normal self and wear a fat suit. That's also a really...interesting way of handicapping him in the end battle :lol

Really the whole series is irrevocably broken now that they can time travel whenever they want. Hank Pym is alive so he can make Pym particles for years, and then the rest of the team can make it, and if they run low they can just go back to the past and get some more. This type of shit is where the weight of decades of comic book bullshit comes crashing down and leading to reboots in actual comics, so I wonder how long it will take them to reuse this shit or find some reason why they can never do it again or just flat out "this is a different timeline we're in now things are different lolz". This is like the "why don't they call in the other Avengers" but amplified by 300. By the end of the movie they were using their THIRD time machine.

Tony dying didn't really get me, but some of the relationship stuff throughout the movie did. The first half before they got into action mode was so interesting, I was wanting like whole movies out of various side plots in the movie just about various characters/relationships dealing with the loss and grief of the snap. I thought it would have been amazing had Thanos' bombardment actually killed the whole team at Avengers HQ after they undid the snap.

Idk what the next big universe level threat would be (Kang? Some Dr. Strange bullshit?) but I'm not really interested in what comes next. This felt like the wrap up and anything after is EU shit you can skip.

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« Reply #35334 on: April 27, 2019, 09:16:07 AM »
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I think time travel is almost always a dumb crutch for bad writers. But if I'm going to get particularly nerdtarded about this it's in one specific way.

Thor: Ragnarok. Best film of these in ages.

Now they go back and just pick up another Mjolnar to use.

Why would you ever choose to do this? As you note, this is now a forever solution. There's no explaining it away with some kind of future criteria when you just used it to maintain but also rewrite history to Tony Stark's wishes. You've just created an endless cycle where every character, hero and villain, are time traveling endlessly to outstep each other by a millisecond all while the universe stays static except where the winner (of which there can't be one) chooses.

This is actually the original conundrum for Kang and Dr. Doom. Kang has essentially forgotten who he originally is from all the time travel. He speculates he could be Doom and a whole bunch of others throughout time. He has no reference point to anything concrete though.

They did that for the entire universe. They imported the sliding timeline of the comics, only after they put fucking dates on every single thing.

It's hacky garbage from a specific type of conceit. They already have literal deus ex machina sitting there in the Infinity Gauntlet and namely the Time Gem (or fuck, the Reality Gem, really who needs the other gems when you've got this one?), but they do this and give it a stupid "scientific" gloss thinking they've successfully waived away the narrative problems by killing off Tony Stark the only one who made it work.

I don't particularly care about these movies too much but I was "offended" by this in a way that other "dumb blockbusters" like Star Trek 2009 and The Dark Knight Rises similarly made me hate the writers for doing unnecessary garbage they thought made their story more complex yet wrapped up everything while it actually just introduced literally every plot hole into what should have been straightforward.

But I like the individual films more than the "shared universe" of this and always did because the only "shared" part was we eventually get to see everybody fight Thanos and that was it. No theme at all. And in this case, it's actually two separate Thanoses with totally different motivations who are killed instantly by someone who comes in late without resolving anything. One who was doing everything to get the Gems for a totally stupid nonsense reason but at least was a purpose, and another one who just up and fucking time travels to the future to kill errybody. (Except Black Widow, who nobody bothers to go back and save for some reason.)

even worse, potentially the very worst
Also how about everybody coming back after FIVE YEARS of agony for their loved ones, totally fine and unaged while they lived through an apparent hell. How did nobody question this particular mechanic to the resolution? And every character literally accepts it because it's what fucking Tony Stark wants? He's dead, fuck him and whatever he built in a cave, with a box of scraps.
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« Reply #35335 on: April 27, 2019, 09:32:16 AM »
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When Cap was returning the Soul Gem why didn’t he pick up an extra Natasha or grab a spare Tony while he was in New York. What a dick.
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« Reply #35336 on: April 27, 2019, 09:38:13 AM »
change reality with this one weird trick

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« Reply #35337 on: April 27, 2019, 10:57:42 AM »
Yeah so. A day later. Had time to stir my thoughts. I really liked Endgame.

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- Fat Thor is the best.

- the intimate, somber tone of the first half is how you sell me on your story and world. The monument to the vanished really hit home. It felt like in Infinity War half the galaxy’s Population dies but it was hard to care because they only showed the heroes perishing. But the heroes are fighting for the galaxy. Hard to care for that galaxy if you don’t see it yourself. Endgame fixes this. The punches are hard and sobering. It’s hard for the high action bits to connect, of which there were many in Infinity War, without slow development. I’m glad they emphasized this in Endgame. In the end, Infinity War just felt like one giant setup movie for me which in many ways makes it worse.

- Definitive endings all around. I loved seeing Cap get to live his life with Carter like he deserved. “Proof that Tony Stark has a heart” made me cry.

- what is the point of Captain Marvel?

- The original Avengers movie was one of my favorite comic book movies at release and it still remains that because at the time it was most comic-y comic book ever made. This movie topped that shit in the best of ways.

 - Cap holding Thor’s hammer had me going wild. My man.

- Gamora’s sister made me want to die. Something about that character annoys the piss out of me.
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- I was disappointed by Ultron, Civil War, and Infinity War. None of them lived up to the original Avengers movie. Endgame finally topped it.

- Unfortunately I have less interest in the Avengers going forward. I just don’t think “Avengers” with that cast. In the comics Spider-Man is an Avenger too and I don’t like it there either. But Even though Spidey is my favorite hero by 9999 times, I’ve never felt he was good at the world saving hero stuff. He’s more like Daredevil or Batman - doing street level shit. I don’t think he’s added anything to the Avengers movies so far. And the rest kind of draw an emotional blank for me. But we’ll see what they do next with the new team. I’m just not sold on them yet. There is Black Panther though so there’s that. When it comes Avengers and Avengers comics I’ve always been one biased towards Classic Avengers (Thor, Cap, Iron Man, Hulk). So it’ll be interesting how they fill in that gap next time.
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« Reply #35338 on: April 27, 2019, 10:59:35 AM »
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I think time travel is almost always a dumb crutch for bad writers. But if I'm going to get particularly nerdtarded about this it's in one specific way.

Thor: Ragnarok. Best film of these in ages.

Now they go back and just pick up another Mjolnar to use.

Why would you ever choose to do this? As you note, this is now a forever solution. There's no explaining it away with some kind of future criteria when you just used it to maintain but also rewrite history to Tony Stark's wishes. You've just created an endless cycle where every character, hero and villain, are time traveling endlessly to outstep each other by a millisecond all while the universe stays static except where the winner (of which there can't be one) chooses.

This is actually the original conundrum for Kang and Dr. Doom. Kang has essentially forgotten who he originally is from all the time travel. He speculates he could be Doom and a whole bunch of others throughout time. He has no reference point to anything concrete though.

They did that for the entire universe. They imported the sliding timeline of the comics, only after they put fucking dates on every single thing.

It's hacky garbage from a specific type of conceit. They already have literal deus ex machina sitting there in the Infinity Gauntlet and namely the Time Gem (or fuck, the Reality Gem, really who needs the other gems when you've got this one?), but they do this and give it a stupid "scientific" gloss thinking they've successfully waived away the narrative problems by killing off Tony Stark the only one who made it work.

I don't particularly care about these movies too much but I was "offended" by this in a way that other "dumb blockbusters" like Star Trek 2009 and The Dark Knight Rises similarly made me hate the writers for doing unnecessary garbage they thought made their story more complex yet wrapped up everything while it actually just introduced literally every plot hole into what should have been straightforward.

But I like the individual films more than the "shared universe" of this and always did because the only "shared" part was we eventually get to see everybody fight Thanos and that was it. No theme at all. And in this case, it's actually two separate Thanoses with totally different motivations who are killed instantly by someone who comes in late without resolving anything. One who was doing everything to get the Gems for a totally stupid nonsense reason but at least was a purpose, and another one who just up and fucking time travels to the future to kill errybody. (Except Black Widow, who nobody bothers to go back and save for some reason.)

even worse, potentially the very worst
Also how about everybody coming back after FIVE YEARS of agony for their loved ones, totally fine and unaged while they lived through an apparent hell. How did nobody question this particular mechanic to the resolution? And every character literally accepts it because it's what fucking Tony Stark wants? He's dead, fuck him and whatever he built in a cave, with a box of scraps.
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Time travel plays a huge part in a lot of shit this year. It’s insane. Dammit, Barry!
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« Reply #35339 on: April 27, 2019, 12:14:30 PM »
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When Cap was returning the Soul Gem why didn’t he pick up an extra Natasha or grab a spare Tony while he was in New York. What a dick.
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