Evilbore's Official Political\Media Crap Thread

[Brehvolution]

dragged to the taiga

[Brehvolution]

obama already making the right calls:

President-elect Barack Obama has yet to attend church services since winning the White House earlier this month, a departure from the example of his two immediate predecessors.

On the three Sundays since his election, Obama has instead used his free time to get in workouts at a Chicago gym.

gym > church . That's change we can believe in.

Amen

[Fragamemnon]

Bo bo bo bo the brown skinned folk are comin' over here to do manual labor for five bucks an hour!  It ain't RIGHT!

Thing is that they'd still come over even with the fence in place. We're basically building a fence to keep out people who have spent decades making their living smuggling people across the border? I really doubt that physical barriers are going to work.

[MrAngryFace]

Anyone afraid of more tax paying citizens coming into the country are living in fear. *boboob they dont pay taxes they am illegal* Well congrats, you create the environment with your fear.

[Human Snorenado]

The whole "they don't pay taxes" argument is pretty dumb, anyhow.  Sure they don't pay federal taxes or even likely state taxes, but they sure as hell buy stuff while they're here, which means they're paying sales taxes on all sorts of shit.  DUMB DUMB DUMB DUMB.

[Fragamemnon]

lol LUCKY DUCKY

[MrAngryFace]

http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=211448&title=the-daily-shows-best-sarah -- haha

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

gym > church definitely

[MrAngryFace]

I've never understood the fear of people from mexico coming into the US to be americans. That kinda of thinking has to be taught cause I was raised for 10 years in Tucson Arizona and I didnt see any negative impact. People will go boboobob drug running blah blah but those are criminals who are not the people trying to get in to pick fruit for crap pay to send to their families to live off of.

[Beardo]

I grew up on a ranch on the border near El Paso. Its a bunch of brown grass and tarantulas. Where do you live Fagamemnon?

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I dont even agree with the border fence. But Dont be a taco and try to say that the southern border is more environmentally sensitive than places like the redwood forest or the everglades.   What a faaaaaaaaaagot.

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[MrAngryFace]

well you grew up on a ranch, I know whats done with the animals

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

What goes on in the barn, stays in the barn at the Beardo Ranch.

[Beardo]

You think the southern border is more environmentally sensitive than the following places.


Louisiana


Appalachian Trail


Yellow stone


Everglades


Hawaii


Denali




Again, you think this

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is more environmentally sensitive than the above? God damn liberals are so fucking stupid.

[Beardo]

What goes on in the barn, stays in the barn at the Beardo Ranch.

So what part of the border are you from?

[TakingBackSunday]

So...posting a pretty picture means that said area is more environmentally sensitive than others?

Look everyone, I can play this game too:



Big Bend park, near the bottom of the Rio Grande in Southern Texas

[MrAngryFace]

[Fragamemnon]

 I love how Beardo makes some assumption that his shithole area outside of El Paso is the same thing as the Rio Grande riparian corridor, one of the most biologically productive and ecologically diverse areas in the entire country.

[Beardo]

I love how Beardo makes some assumption that his shithole area outside of El Paso is the same thing as the Rio Grande riparian corridor, one of the most biologically productive and ecologically diverse areas in the entire country.

That shithole is the most environmentally sensitive area on the whole earth. You need to watch what you are saying. 

[Beardo]

Look, Im agreeing with you. The fence is a dumb idea. You just need to shut the fuck up when it comes to shit you dont know about. Stop using hyperboles and say what you mean. You think the fence is a bad idea because it might affect areas such as ___ and ___ which can be environmentally sensitive. There is that so hard?

[Fragamemnon]

You ignorant shitwit, do you know what a riparian corridor even is? Hint-your little piece of El Paso hell isn't in it. Those places (Santa Ana NWR, Bentsen-Rio Grande SP, Sabal Palm Audubon Sanctuary) are definitely in the riparian area around the river, and that habitat is every bit as sensitive and treasured to conservation-minded environmentalists as an arcre of Everglades swamp or Appalachian high-altitude forest.

BTW, my wife has a master's degree in wildlife biology, my father has a degree in environmental engineering, and we all sit around and talk "shop" all the time. You don't know shit about ecosystems, fuckwit.

[Beardo]

BTW, my wife has a master's degree in wildlife biology, my father has a degree in environmental engineering, and we all sit around and talk "shop" all the time. You don't know shit about ecosystems, fuckwit.

  You're using the "I have a ___ friend argument"

[Fragamemnon]

btw, since you are mr. pro on environmental issues now on the board, please name two avian or mammal species that live on Western sagebrush habitat that are threatened by propsed gas/oil extraction, and why they are so.

[Fragamemnon]

You're using the "I have a clue, really" argument. 

[TakingBackSunday]

BTW, my wife has a master's degree in wildlife biology, my father has a degree in environmental engineering, and we all sit around and talk "shop" all the time. You don't know shit about ecosystems, fuckwit.

  You're using the "I have a ___ friend argument"

It's a whole lot better than the "I'm from tharrrrr!!!" argument

[Beardo]

btw, since you are mr. pro on environmental issues now on the board, please name two avian or mammal species that live on Western sagebrush habitat that are threatened by propsed gas/oil extraction, and why they are so.

[Beardo]

You're using the "I have a clue, really" argument. 

Soooooo when was the last time you went to the rio grande?

[Beardo]

It's cool dude, just admit you used a hyperbole. It happens.

[Fragamemnon]

Soooooo when was the last time you went to the rio grande?

summer of 2005, did a streak of birding starting at Corpus down the coast to Brownsville and then to McAllen. Want pics?

(my wife and I vacation to go birdwatching, and have done so ever since we met, provided I can actually get the time off, which is increasingly difficult).

[Eric P]

Soooooo when was the last time you went to the rio grande?

summer of 2005, did a streak of birding starting at Corpus down the coast to Brownsville and then to McAllen. Want pics?

the brownsville zoo is awesome

corpus sucks because a crab once attached itself to my finger and wouldn't let go until i flung it out into the sea

i went to military school in harlingen

[Fragamemnon]

Corpus was less than impressive as a city. Though William Rehnquist died when I was there-maybe if I go back I can get Alito or Justice Pubic Hair to croak too. I drove through Harligen on 77 on the way down, and we loved Brownsville so much that we made a special trip later on to re-visit Sabal Palm again.

[Eric P]

did corpus still stink?

that's what i recall most about it

[Fragamemnon]

Smelled OK. Overpriced food though (at least the bed and breakfast was ace).

[Eric P]

i haven't been there since the early 90s when my mom lost her parents in the course of a year to cancer.

maybe it's changed.  but i recall it being very flat, very boring, very smelly.

[Beardo]

Corpus has loads of hermit crabs! 


Corpus Christi is definitely one of the most environmentally sensitive area in the country also.

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JK

Do you have any bird photos you took?

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[Mandark]

Statement->Snark->Pwnage->JK Parachute at its finest.

[Beardo]

Statement->Snark->Pwnage->JK Parachute at its finest.

I'm sorry did I pull the LOLZ JK line without knowing it? I havnt been pwned. I am right. He said a hyperbole and wont admit it.

[Mandark]

Mmmm hmmm.

[Beardo]

Mmmm hmmm.

Do you have nothing to say or do you have a cock in your mouth?

[Mandark]

It's just that you haven't presented a single point to support your implicit thesis (that the border fence doesn't impinge on one of the most environmentally sensitive areas).  You could do that by say listing more environmentally sensitive areas or dropping some science when Frag credential-slaps you, but instead you're taking the George Aiken approach.

Just saying.

[Beardo]

It's just that you haven't presented a single point to support your implicit thesis (that the border fence doesn't impinge on one of the most environmentally sensitive areas).  You could do that by say listing more environmentally sensitive areas or dropping some science when Frag credential-slaps you, but instead you're taking the George Aiken approach.

Just saying.

I was merely pointing out the ridiculousness of calling the rio grande valley "one of the most environmentally sensitive" areas in the country. I named a handful of the top of my head that are extremely more sensitive to humans. Not only that I have agreed that the fence is a dumb idea. I just want the use of exaggerations to stop. All he has to is to say that the fence might damage some areas there. he doesn't need to lie.

You could do that by say listing more environmentally sensitive areas

I would ask if you could read, but I even posted pictures for the reading impaired. so I guess i should ask if you are blind.

[Beardo]

I'll admit I was wrong if someone can find a list froma credible source that lists it in the top 5 environmentally sensitive places in the country.

[Mandark]

What's the big deal with English?  Not only is the current wave of immigrants and second-generation Americans learning the language at the same rate as past generations (get the Delorian and bomb Ellis Island!), but it's the one thing you can count on people doing of their own accord.  Life is much, much easier and more profitable in the US knowing English, ethnic enclaves or not.

Besides, if I was really wound up about making sure new Americans spoke the language, I'd be agitating for more ESL education for adults, not building a big-ass wall.

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Beardo: I was trying to be polite by ignoring the post where you list the goddam Appalachian *Trail*

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[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Most Americans don't want to learn a new language.  They barely know their own.

[Positive Touch]

Back to illegal immigration - my main problem is that it makes it impossible to impose standards on the people we're letting into the country. I really don't have a problem with immigrants from any country so long as they gain a basic level of proficiency in English and learn a bit about our country's history. English is really the sticking point for me. If someone isn't willing to put in the work to learn the national language so that they can communicate with their fellow Americans, they shouldn't get to stay in the country.

Why the fuck does it matter if they know the history of the country?  Most people born in this country don't even know it ffs.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Why can't we just deport people in the US that don't know the country's history?

It'll be fair for those trying to immigrate and we'll be purging some unsavory elements from the nation.

[Mandark]

http://mcsweeneys.net/2008/11/20tucker.html  Atlas Shrugged updated for the current financial crisis

[siamesedreamer]

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2008/11/29/Analyst_Senate_may_decide_Minn_election/UPI-14251227987905/

The DEMs wouldn't be that stoopit would they?

I bet they'll wait to see what happens Tuesday here in GA. If Saxby wins, then they may try it. But, if Martin wins I doubt they'd try it with the 60th vote.

[Human Snorenado]

Jim Martin isn't gonna win.  I can pretty much guarantee it, sadly.  Saxby is a sad sack of a Senator, even for a Republican, but Martin was pretty much a nobody.  I bet if someone with any statewide name recognition had run Saxby might have lost.

[siamesedreamer]

I don't like Saxby either. But, the threat of 60 forced me to vote for him. Not sure if I'm voting Tuesday though cuz I agree its pretty safe.

[Mandark]

I'd rather base a naturalization test on knowledge of the rights and responsibilities citizenship would entail, rather than historical factoids like Manifest Destiny.

Not only would it be relevant to their actual experience as newly minted Americans, it would ameliorate a lot of the costs of immigration that come from having people outside the system (uninsured drivers, emergency room users).


Bonus shorter siamesedreamer:  "Extraordinary circumstances specific to this election have forced me to vote against the Democrat!"

[Human Snorenado]

I don't like Saxby either. But, the threat of 60 forced me to vote for him. Not sure if I'm voting Tuesday though cuz I agree its pretty safe.

The whole 60 thing is more symbolic than anything else.  Republicans that want to stop the Evil Far Left Abortio-Socialist Homo Agenda should be more worried about Olympia Snowe, Susan Collins, Arlen Specter, some guy named McCain and Norm Coleman if he manages to get re-elected.  Be ESPECIALLY worried about Specter if he really does intend to run for re-election, because that state is getting bluer by the day.

[Mandark]

Who Cares Whether There's An Electoral Realignment? by Henry Farrell.

Short version: We might be seeing a "policy realignment" where center-left solutions will be favored no matter who wins the elections (think of all the regulatory laws signed by Nixon), so overanalyzing Obama's cabinet picks misses the point.

[Boogie]

Bonus shorter siamesedreamer:  "Extraordinary circumstances specific to this election have forced me to vote against the Democrat!"

 

[siamesedreamer]

I don't get the funny. 

[Cheebs]

I don't like Saxby either. But, the threat of 60 forced me to vote for him. Not sure if I'm voting Tuesday though cuz I agree its pretty safe.

The whole 60 thing is more symbolic than anything else.  Republicans that want to stop the Evil Far Left Abortio-Socialist Homo Agenda should be more worried about Olympia Snowe, Susan Collins, Arlen Specter, some guy named McCain and Norm Coleman if he manages to get re-elected.  Be ESPECIALLY worried about Specter if he really does intend to run for re-election, because that state is getting bluer by the day.

Pretty much. With 58 seats the dems will almost always get at least 2 republicans to stop any filibuster, too many blue state republicans who fear for their political lives.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

It doesn't really matter.  If the Democrats don't get the supermajority in 2008, they will get it in 2010.

[Tieno]

[Cheebs]

Aaaaand it's done.

[Phoenix Dark]

lol Biden finally appears

[siamesedreamer]

NBER officially says recession started Dec 07.