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The Fake Shemp

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Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
« on: November 13, 2008, 08:15:41 PM »
It's getting trashed by the mainstream critics, but I might venture out tomorrow to see it anyway.  I'm a sucker for Bond flicks.
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Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2008, 08:18:03 PM »
Some of the reviews are similar to the inability to embrace change that hung over the Batman Begins reboot ("where is teh camp?").  It looks cool and the director is solid.  It'd have to be a pretty horrible production to not even make it out as a fun popcorn film.
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Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2008, 08:20:12 PM »
Also, if it sucks, Solo (I see you lerkin'!) might never post on the Internet again!
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Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2008, 08:20:23 PM »
Ill be seeing it tomorrow, as is my obligation to the 007 cult. Im expecting to be disappointed, though, from everything Ive seen/read/heard.

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Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2008, 08:21:01 PM »
I've already seen it. I liked it, but it wasn't as good as Casino Royale.

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Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2008, 08:21:22 PM »
Any particular reasons why?

If you have some kind of fetish for all Bond films, considering the majority range from mediocre to bad, then I can't fathom why you wouldn't enjoy this entry on some level.
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Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2008, 08:21:38 PM »
Oh shit, it is getting trashed
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/quantum_of_solace/?name_order=asc
(35% with top critics wtf)

I was gonna go on a date and see it but it sounds like we're just going to dinner instead. So...maybe I'll see it saturday or sunday

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Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2008, 08:22:43 PM »
Bourne films are such a pop culture fad.  I can't wait 'till we get to "I LOVE THE '00s!" on VH1 and we talk about how nobody can differentiate any of the Bourne films from one another.
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Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2008, 08:23:44 PM »
already saw it

not as good as Casino Royale

besides the background music it may as well not even be a bond film

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Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2008, 08:24:13 PM »
Any particular reasons why?

If you have some kind of fetish for all Bond films, considering the majority range from mediocre to bad, then I can't fathom why you wouldn't enjoy this entry on some level.

Because this is the first Bond film in a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG time where you (or at least I did) had legitimately high expectations. CR was pretty much the Bond movie Ive wanted my whole life, and all the pieces seemed to be locked down for a successful run of films in the Craig era. To hear that they quite possibly fucked it up ALREADY is disheartening.

Anyways, Im seeing it in about 18 hours, so Ill see for myself soon enough.

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« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2008, 08:26:41 PM »
I went in with the expectations that it'd be a good action flick and nu-Bond entry, not for a Yankees-style run of dominance.  I like Casino Royale a lot, but I don't put it on that kind of pedestal.
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Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2008, 08:27:46 PM »
a couple action scenes

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are more intenses than anything in Bourne

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Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2008, 08:27:50 PM »
CR is pedestal worthy in my books!

Another way to put it Will is that during the Brosnan tenure, I went to see the movies out of mostly curiousity for how low they could go (and I never in my wildest dreams expected a finely aged cheese like DAD), but CR seemed to be a signal that the producers finally got it.
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Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2008, 08:29:03 PM »
If anyone sees it tell me if they play The Boat That Rocked trailer.
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Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
« Reply #14 on: November 13, 2008, 08:30:20 PM »
Casino Royale is a 7/10 type action movie at best, not much different than Batman Begins. I don't get why people pretend that it's amazing. Admittedly the first half is full of amazing stuff but the casino scene is meh and everything after that is laughable, especially the stupid romantic shit ending with the typical James Bond "twist"

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Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
« Reply #15 on: November 13, 2008, 08:31:05 PM »
I don't get why people pretend that it's amazing. Admittedly the first half is full of amazing stuff

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« Reply #16 on: November 13, 2008, 08:33:03 PM »
I'm going tomorrow.

I hated the last half of CR enough that I never, ever, ever, ever want to see it again.

Give me mindless action please :D

BTW, I'm not a big Bond fan.  Never have been and I find most to be really really bad.

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Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
« Reply #17 on: November 13, 2008, 08:33:18 PM »
...and seeing his beloved Bond beat handily by a comic book movie, Solo took his e-life...
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Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
« Reply #18 on: November 13, 2008, 08:34:11 PM »
Half the movie features awesome stuff, the other half ruins everything. The opening scene really gets your attention, hell even the stupid "Bond being a detective lol" stuff is cool enough thanks to Craig.
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Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
« Reply #19 on: November 13, 2008, 08:34:18 PM »
...and seeing his beloved Bond beat handily by a comic book movie, Solo took his e-life...

What comic book movie? Is there one coming out this weekend too? Or are you talking about TDK? If so, I never expected QoS to top TDK. Hell, I dont expect Nolan's next Batman movie to top TDK.

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Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
« Reply #20 on: November 13, 2008, 08:34:56 PM »
Casino Royale kicks ass, bow to Solo you nubs
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Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
« Reply #21 on: November 13, 2008, 08:40:38 PM »
I expect it to be shit.

I'm a big Bond fan but even I know that it is probably going to be the worst Bond since The World is Not Enough.  Once again, they bastardize the Bond series because they focus too much on action.  Why try to make it a Bourne clone?  I don't think Bond fans and the public are going to tolerate another reboot of the series.

I'll probably see it but at a dollar theater.
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« Reply #22 on: November 13, 2008, 08:40:46 PM »
Casino Royale kicks ass, bow to Solo you nubs
I'll watch the first half with you and then we can just make out the whole second half.

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Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
« Reply #23 on: November 13, 2008, 08:40:55 PM »
...and seeing his beloved Bond beat handily by a comic book movie, Solo took his e-life...

What comic book movie? Is there one coming out this weekend too? Or are you talking about TDK? If so, I never expected QoS to top TDK. Hell, I dont expect Nolan's next Batman movie to top TDK.

But what about going into this year? Or after their predecessors were released? :P
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Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
« Reply #24 on: November 13, 2008, 08:55:02 PM »
I'm going out to see it at midnight, so hopefully it'll be good. I'm honestly worried about the short-ass running time...

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« Reply #25 on: November 13, 2008, 09:55:25 PM »
...and seeing his beloved Bond beat handily by a comic book movie, Solo took his e-life...

What comic book movie? Is there one coming out this weekend too? Or are you talking about TDK? If so, I never expected QoS to top TDK. Hell, I dont expect Nolan's next Batman movie to top TDK.

But what about going into this year? Or after their predecessors were released? :P

Pre-TDK release, I would have thought QoS could have been better, since CR is better than BB. But then TDK came out, was awesome, and QoS has had nothing but negatives coming down the pipeline for a while (script rushed to beat writers strike, action ramped up, character stuff thrown out, etc).

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Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
« Reply #26 on: November 13, 2008, 10:03:17 PM »
Most likely will see it this weekend.

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« Reply #27 on: November 13, 2008, 10:06:05 PM »
Not a big fan of James Bond, but I may just go see it this weekend anyway with a friend since he might want to.

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« Reply #28 on: November 13, 2008, 11:35:49 PM »
Stopped by and picked up tickets for a 7:30 showing tomorrow night. I had movie cash vouchers for two tickets, so it didn't cost me a dime.
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Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
« Reply #29 on: November 14, 2008, 02:34:21 AM »
It looks like I'm going to. Ecro and I are going with some of his/our friends, as Friday is his birthday. Happy birthday, honey!
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Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
« Reply #30 on: November 14, 2008, 02:57:19 AM »
None of my friends, either those here or the ones coming back for Thanksgiving break, are fans of Bond movies at all.  The chances of me seeing this in theaters are pretty slim.  There is a better chance of seeing some shitty movie like Twilight than this.  I'm cool with that considering I first saw Casino Royale first by downloading a low quality cam version that I never watched and eventually downloaded a DVD rip that I did watch and now I own the blu-ray.  I still want to watch it since I liked Casino Royale, it's just that I'm fine with waiting on it.

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Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
« Reply #31 on: November 14, 2008, 11:02:10 AM »
I'm pumped, but I think I'm going to be disappointed.
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« Reply #32 on: November 14, 2008, 11:18:41 AM »
Bourne films are such a pop culture fad.  I can't wait 'till we get to "I LOVE THE '00s!" on VH1 and we talk about how nobody can differentiate any of the Bourne films from one another.

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Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
« Reply #33 on: November 14, 2008, 12:05:28 PM »
I saw this last night at midnight. I'm not an enormous Bond fan, but I've seen most of the movies and like the series. I was very disappointed in QoS. Plot was terrible, not that there was really all that much plot to speak of anyway. Some of the action scenes were cool, but it definitely felt more like a Bourne movie than a Bond movie with all the shaky cam, especially in the opening scene. I knew what I was getting into before going, I had read some reviews beforehand, but I still walked out extremely dissatisfied.

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« Reply #34 on: November 14, 2008, 12:33:44 PM »
Saw the midnight showing last night, I wasn't disappointed in it as a movie, I was more disappointed in it as a Bond film. It was awesome otherwise, besides the fucking atrociously incomprehensible opening car chase. I just loved how Bond does not give a damn about anyone.

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« Reply #35 on: November 14, 2008, 06:32:55 PM »
Pretty. Empty. Pretty empty. These are the words that come to mind when I think about Marc Forster’s Quantum Of Solace. The direct sequel to Casino Royale lacks all the soul (and source material) that made the previous film so special. Instead of character interaction driving the film, Quantum Of Solace feels more like a straight up action-driven movie with the character development barely hanging on for dear life.

The film begins with a bang, picking up amidst a car chase taking place seconds after the ending of Casino Royale. Then we are quickly whisked from location to location, for reasons not always clear, and treated to action scene after action scene, none of which stand out as being especially well conceived or shot. This was Forster’s first action movie foray, and it shows – there is nothing on the level of Martin Campbell’s action scenes here. So we jump from fight to location and back again, all with a totally unmemorable villain anchoring it all, a forgettable (but unbelievably gorgeous) female lead in Olga Kurylenko. The whole thing feels so darn inconsequential, and I couldn’t help but feel that this film failed terribly on the promise of setting up Quantum as a new SPECTRE-ish organization. I also felt it lacked any sort of punch in resolving Bond’s chip on his shoulder, the ghost of Vesper.

It wasn’t all bad though. Daniel Craig thoroughly owns the role now, and only good things can come with him locked up for another 3 films. He plays the role with all the swagger in the world, but he also exudes a palpable sense of self-loathing and loss from the events of the previous film, which keeps his performance grounded. Another big positive is the return of Mathis – the two best scenes in the film are quieter, more intimate character moments between Mathis and Bond. I’d go so far as to say that it was those two scenes, along with the film’s final scenes, that keep the film afloat for me. Other than that, it was minor things that did it for me – the changing of font styles for each location, David Arnold’s score, the return of MI6’s Universal Exports alias, and so on.

I think Michael Phillips of the Chicago Tribune actually said it best:

" ‘There's something horribly efficient about you,’ Kurylenko says to Craig at one point. The same goes for the film.”

That’s Quantum Of Solace in a nutshell - too frenetic, too much focus on rapid fire action, too plot-driven. All of the factors combine to leave no room for the one thing that made the previous film work so well – the human factor. Quantum Of Solace is a solid action movie on its own, but is nothing less than a massive disappointment as the direct sequel to a film that seemed to have locked everything into place for the future of the series.

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Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
« Reply #36 on: November 14, 2008, 06:36:09 PM »
what trailers played?
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« Reply #37 on: November 14, 2008, 06:52:04 PM »
Some Adam Sandler one, a Will Smith one, and something else. Nothing good. No Simon Pegg/Nick Frost movies, if thats what youre getting at.

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« Reply #38 on: November 14, 2008, 06:52:32 PM »
Gay, must just be only in the UK then
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Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
« Reply #39 on: November 14, 2008, 06:53:18 PM »
My main problem with Casino Royale is how they were like putting awesome action in the beginning, and then boring me to death with boring casino bullshit
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« Reply #40 on: November 14, 2008, 06:53:36 PM »
Yeah, the trailers on whole sucked.

Oh, and there was a Valkyrie one. Tom Cruise as a Nazi, lulz.

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« Reply #41 on: November 14, 2008, 06:54:16 PM »
Trailer for this plays over in the UK

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1131729/
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« Reply #42 on: November 14, 2008, 06:54:22 PM »
the twist is that he's actually Lord Xenu
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« Reply #43 on: November 14, 2008, 06:54:57 PM »
My main problem with Casino Royale is how they were like putting awesome action in the beginning, and then boring me to death with boring casino bullshit

If you're looking for action, QoS has a MUCH higher quota. Unfortunately a lot of it is same-y and not very exciting though. There is nothing in QoS as awesome as the parkour scene in CR. Theres a parkour-lite scene, but it stinks.

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« Reply #44 on: November 14, 2008, 07:01:33 PM »
Cause like the first part of CR was like a Bourne movie without the barfy shakey cam
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Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
« Reply #45 on: November 14, 2008, 07:01:52 PM »
My main problem with Casino Royale is how they were like putting awesome action in the beginning, and then boring me to death with boring casino bullshit

If you're looking for action, QoS has a MUCH higher quota. Unfortunately a lot of it is same-y and not very exciting though. There is nothing in QoS as awesome as the parkour scene in CR. Theres a parkour-lite scene, but it stinks.

that parkour scene was lulz

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Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
« Reply #46 on: November 14, 2008, 07:04:09 PM »
ill just watch more Get Smart instead and wait for QoS for rental
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« Reply #47 on: November 14, 2008, 07:06:40 PM »
everyone seems to forget the awesome Bourneesque ali baba sword fight scene in Casino Royale

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Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
« Reply #48 on: November 14, 2008, 07:07:27 PM »
I honestly dont remember much aside from bond crashing through some wood and looking hardcore. I also remember not liking the ending.
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« Reply #49 on: November 14, 2008, 07:07:31 PM »
I thought it worked as a fun popcorn movie but as a "real" movie not really.

Half the time I had no idea wtf was going on, but it looked nice and was entertaining so I turned my brain off and didn't care.  Had a great time, but yeah the movie could've been a lot better.


The redhead was amaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaazing though.  :drool

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« Reply #50 on: November 14, 2008, 07:09:27 PM »
I'm going to watch Bourne this weekend

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« Reply #51 on: November 14, 2008, 07:11:34 PM »
I honestly dont remember much aside from bond crashing through some wood and looking hardcore. I also remember not liking the ending.



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« Reply #52 on: November 14, 2008, 07:13:03 PM »
Cause like the first part of CR was like a Bourne movie without the barfy shakey cam

QoS is like a Bourne movie WITH the barfy shakey cam included. And Im pretty sure that, much like with the Bourne movies, the shakey cam/fast edits in QoS make the action look a lot more exciting than it really is.

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« Reply #53 on: November 14, 2008, 07:18:28 PM »
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« Reply #54 on: November 14, 2008, 07:32:20 PM »
goin to see this in an hour

this time on the big screen

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« Reply #55 on: November 14, 2008, 11:58:03 PM »
I'm pretty much with Solo.

The best stuff was between Bond and Mathis, and I really wish that film kept that type of chemistry.  Felix and Bond are another great coupling, but they get - what? - maybe thirty seconds to speak to one another.

The plot was almost unintelligible and for the first hour or so (and I'm not kidding here), Bond could not go more than a minute of screen time before ERUPTIN' IN A FURIOS ACTION SCENE!!!

It was almost exhausting.

It gets a pass for Daniel Craig keeping the whole thing afloat and nothing about it is terrible (save for maybe the LOL-inducing LETS THROW UR FRIEND IN THE GARBAGE scene), but it's totally unmemorable.  I think we'll view this as a stopgap between what I'm hoping will be a superb sequel.

Best part was Bond listening in on the Quantum meeting.
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« Reply #56 on: November 15, 2008, 12:01:09 AM »
Yeah, definitely some fine Bond girls in this one.

As for the main plot...

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Re: Anyone going to go see Quantum of Solace?
« Reply #57 on: November 15, 2008, 12:04:56 AM »
Kept waiting for Bourne to appear and kill this cigarillo robot.

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« Reply #58 on: November 15, 2008, 12:05:36 AM »
Jason Bourne is so emo.
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« Reply #59 on: November 15, 2008, 12:12:05 AM »
I enjoyed the movie as well, but was sadly disappointed by the lack of plot development in the movie. I couldn't believe the movie was over so quickly too. At least the trailers were awesome.