Jinfash: tell me about being a muslim and living in Saudi Arabia

[Don Flamenco]

I'm with them.  This is very informative.

So you were born in Texas, would you ever consider moving back to the states? 

Also, is alcohol completely illegal there or is just that muslims can't drink?

[Eric P]

3. if you are a transvestite, waht happens to you?
4. if you are a trasnvestite who recently turned male, then successfully got a driver license on account of your male looks, then got into some accident, appeared before a court, and the court finds out you were born female but became male, what happens

in iran, to my understanding, this is quite common.  transsexuals, rather than transvestism and it's socially acceptable.

You'll find a lot of differences between what's right and wrong in Iran and Saudi Arabia. We agree on the most basic stuff but differ on others.

that's the same for everywhere.  to presume that there's a monoculture because of the prevalence of the same religion is absurd.

[Himu]

Franz: you can't drink in Islam.

[Don Flamenco]

Franz: you can't drink in Islam.

I know that, just wondering about Saudi Arabia in general.

[Himu]

Is Muslim countries they tend to not sell alcohol period iirc but Jinfash should have the answer!

[Brehvolution]

I never understood putting strict limits on your real life in the HOPE of getting a better next life.

[Eric P]

I never understood putting strict limits on your real life in the HOPE of getting a better next life.

ah the age old "why do poor people vote republican" question

[Himu]

I never understood putting strict limits on your real life in the HOPE of getting a better next life.

It's not just about getting a better next life, it's about empowering you so you can have a better and more fruitful life right now.

[Brehvolution]

C'mon, they had you at 72 virgins. Seventy fucking 2.

[Himu]

C'mon, they had you at 72 virgins. Seventy fucking 2.

That doesn't even exist and is a myth. Who the fuck would want to have sex with virgins? Having sex with virgins is AWFUL.

[Brehvolution]

I'm just playing. I fully respect what you are going to do.

[Eric P]

Serious question my fellow A-rab: what's with the shooting guns in the air on every manifestation. Don't you waste too much ammo that way?

also done by latin americans and by black americans (crown heights had people shooting guns in the air in celebration on nov 5th).

it's just a thing.

[T234]

Hi jinfash.

BEST NEW MEMBER SINCE MUCKHOLE CONFIRMED

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I always wonder about the young people of faraway lands. The old people are pretty much the same everywhere. Whereas here most of the college-age people are kinda not religious, anxious about getting a job after college, and BROKEASS LIKE A MOTHERFUCKER

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[Himu]

I'm just playing. I fully respect what you are going to do.

Oh. I'm used to hearing things like,"Himumu if you convert I will have no respect for you and we aren't going to be friends" thing from tvc.

[drew]

have you ever seen an opium poppy

[Himu]

anyways I thought it was 99 virgins and not 72

[tiesto]

Do they practice polygamy in Saudi Arabia? How do you feel about this?

[CurseoftheGods]

Yeah, the 99/72 virgins thing is pretty much a myth. It's a very weak Hadith.

[Himu]

I've never read a hadith. Jinfash tell me what you think about this. I have only read the Qur'an.

Last night I read like 4 surahs

[Himu]

I like the first half of the Qur'an and the last third. They're so damn different. But my favorite parts of the Qur'an are the retellings of the things you read about in the bible and the torah, because I prefer the way the Qur'an tells the stories more, even if my translation kinda blows.

I read stuff like the surah on Joseph (a favorite of mine), Abraham, Hud, The Rock (as it is called in my translation), and I did the beginning of The Honey Bee. Quite honestly, I love the middle part of the Qur'an.

I want a new Qur'an. I have two Qurans and I'm not satisfied with either translation.

Jinfash: he says this because I wish to convert. He thinks I should study more uh spiritual things and not use a religion. He's an atheist though.

On the issue of polygamy, I disagree with it heavily but I can see why it was useful back in Muhammad's time. The husband was a provider for women who had been left without a protector.

[drew]

fucking hell @ that youtube jinfash, your elders are goddamn crazy

i was always under the impression that only the hardcore taliban stayed sober.



i mean look at these afghan soldiers just smoking opium heroin & hash between fights.  it must get pretty boring out there

[Himu]

i saw some guy in that vid that looks like franky muniz

[Don Flamenco]

I'm with them.  This is very informative.

So you were born in Texas, would you ever consider moving back to the states? 

Also, is alcohol completely illegal there or is just that muslims can't drink?

I don't think I'll ever move back permanently, not with the crappy economy and lack of jobs

I'm not sure how much this applies to the medical field, but in the U.S. right now being educated + able to speak arabic and English = $$$$.  For a doctor, that probably applies more to Europe than the U.S. though.  In the U.S. you could probably get an amazing job with the U.S. Army.  But as we all know, that's a trap!  If you do decide to move back to the U.S., please be my sugar daddy. 

and as for alcohol, in Saudi Arabia it's illegal to drink it in public places period. If you're a foreigner though, you can drink in your own place or your compound, in fact most of your country's rules can be applied in those places as they try to make you as comfortable as they can.

It's worth noting that Alcohol is legal in some neighboring countries like Bahrain and the UAE, so most of the people go there to get drunk if they feel like it (Bahrain is like 20 mins away from where I live).

In that case, do people commonly go over the border to get drunk on weekends?  Bar culture is such an integral part to European and American young adult lives, it's hard to imagine a place where life doesn't revolve around that.

[Himu]

Jinfash, how did you grow up to be such an awesome person?

Tell me your life story.

[Himu]

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Have you ever been to Mecca?

[Himu]

I've been meaning to ask that

[Bildi]

Thanks for all the answers Jinfash.

[BlackMage]

You know how when you die and get like 72 virgins or whatever? Can I be one of them? 

[brawndolicious]

Regarding the 72 virgins thing: Shias don't believe it and I'm pretty sure that most Sunnis question it.  The number 72 was used in old Arabic as a figure of speech for a "a shitload".

Jinfash, my Iranian relatives say that x-parties are big over there.  What do Saudi kids do for fun?

[BlackMage]

maybe I'll be his 1 and only virgin hole. well 2 holes.. well shit jin ill give you my ear and nose holes too.. eye sockets if you ask nicely.

[cool breeze]

I'm supposed to have a 10 page paper on Islam done by tomorrow, so I just started a couple minutes ago and am reading up on it.  It's almost scary how much lines up with how I live my life.  I'm starting to think that my parents had subliminal cues around the house that made me act like this so I would be muslim or something without being direct with it.

[Oblivion]

C'mon, they had you at 72 virgins. Seventy fucking 2.

 Who the fuck would want to have sex with virgins? Having sex with virgins is AWFUL.

Weird, the chick that dated you said the same thing...

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j/k himu

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[laesperanzapaz]

C'mon, they had you at 72 virgins. Seventy fucking 2.

That doesn't even exist and is a myth. Who the fuck would want to have sex with virgins? Having sex with virgins is AWFUL.

what

no no no no

you dont understand

sex with a virgin, as long as 1. the virgin is hot, and 2. you don't really give a shit about the virgin beyond sex, is an expereince beyond few others.  It is the mindblowing pleasure of contaminating that which is pure.  It is the manner of penetrating that which is adolescent.  It is the FEELING of impregnating that which is vulnerable, and feminine.  It is the ecstaasy of SHEER JOY OF SEX for the male at the explicit expense and pain  of the lady - a pain that is oh so deliciously visible and prominent - all the while without raping.

Man I wish i was a muslim.  Atheism suxxxxx

[muckhole]

By ridding myself of any kind of hatred, and drinking a lot of milk...

Seriously guys, you're giving me too much credit, my ego has been inflated to a critical level.

Your ego deserves the inflation for answering all these questions. Pretty interesting read.

And if by chance you were a joke character, I like you so much that I'd continue to address you as though you weren't. 

[CurseoftheGods]

awwwwwwwww... this is a heart-warming thread

[Cormacaroni]

Serious question my fellow A-rab: what's with the shooting guns in the air on every manifestation. Don't you waste too much ammo that way?

Yeah it is, and it's stupid.
I don't know why they do it, prolly to show their courage or something. It's a tradition mostly done by Arabic nomads (Bedwins), and leads to accidents:





smh

holy shit.

I've heard of weddings being abruptly terminated when a falling bullet hits someone in the party. Or in the village down the road. What goes up must come down. Only a grade A douche would fire live ammo like that.

[brawndolicious]

mythbusters did a test and found out that when a bullet is coming straight down after being shot up, it has too little mass to hit with lethal force.  it's still a stupid way to have fun as that video shows.

[Cormacaroni]

http://www.ispub.com/ostia/index.php?xmlFilePath=journals/ijs/vol8n1/gsi.xml

i dunno, i won't be volunteering to be a fucking test subject any time soon!

[Cormacaroni]

Jinfash

Interesting stuff. It appears all these perceived restrictions aren't stopping you from having fun.

[Himu]

I'm supposed to have a 10 page paper on Islam done by tomorrow, so I just started a couple minutes ago and am reading up on it.  It's almost scary how much lines up with how I live my life.  I'm starting to think that my parents had subliminal cues around the house that made me act like this so I would be muslim or something without being direct with it.

haha how so

when i first started reading up on islam a few years ago it pretty much shocked me how much my beliefs aligned with islam. before, i was pretty ignorant about it, but when I read up on it just shocked me completely.

[Bildi]

Is it correct to call you a Saudi Jinfash?

'Cause I want to call you a sexy Saudi bitch.

[Tieno]

Jinfash is my favorite terrorist!

[bork]

Is it correct to call you a Saudi Jinfash?

'Cause I want to call you a sexy Saudi bitch.

Jinfash is my favorite terrorist!

Which one of these makes for a better tag?

[CurseoftheGods]

I'd say Sexy Saudi Bitch.

[cool breeze]

I'm supposed to have a 10 page paper on Islam done by tomorrow, so I just started a couple minutes ago and am reading up on it.  It's almost scary how much lines up with how I live my life.  I'm starting to think that my parents had subliminal cues around the house that made me act like this so I would be muslim or something without being direct with it.

haha how so

when i first started reading up on islam a few years ago it pretty much shocked me how much my beliefs aligned with islam. before, i was pretty ignorant about it, but when I read up on it just shocked me completely.

It's a number of things, really.  Keep in mind that I am Persian and my parents are Muslim (both are from Iran), it's just that they never pushed religion on me.  In fact, I went to a Christian church for preschool where they all thought I was Jewish because I didn't know if I was Christian or not.  The most direct influence of Islam my parents had one me was no pork in my house, and even today I don't eat pork because I never got the taste for it.

[Himu]

I thought you were azn!

[Himu]

jinfash

[Tundra]

Mmmmmh..... pork....

[Brehvolution]

[cool breeze]

I thought you were azn!

I'm pale enough, but I'm too hairy.  Any hairier and I would be french.

[Himu]

I'm fucking hairy.

[cool breeze]

At least in my experience there are two tells of being Persian (don't know about Arabs):

1) Hairy
2) Wears and obnoxious amount of black

I honestly never understood that.  All the guys were wearing black suits with black shirts and black ties.

[laesperanzapaz]

that sucks, so much restriction on freedom

come to 'merica

[Himu]

Both of you should be glad, I should be hairier like my dad, brothers and most Arabs.
I'm starting to suspect that I was an adopted crack baby

Why? Most women here apparently don't want hairy dudes.

[cool breeze]

I'm pale, hairy, dress well, and have thick eyebrows...I think I'm a Persian male   

[T234]

Yeah, Persian chicks are hot. No wonder the Prince risks his life.

@Jinfash: That whole singles thing really sucks. Me, Bloodwake, and PD would be HURTING if we were born where you are.

[T234]

Nah PD can't get LOVIN either.

[elektrikluv]

It's a number of things, really.  Keep in mind that I am Persian and my parents are Muslim (both are from Iran), it's just that they never pushed religion on me.  In fact, I went to a Christian church for preschool where they all thought I was Jewish because I didn't know if I was Christian or not.  The most direct influence of Islam my parents had one me was no pork in my house, and even today I don't eat pork because I never got the taste for it.

You're missing out! I was the same, also grew up in a Muslim household (I'm Moroccan) but my parents are hardly what you'd call strict muslims and the only implemented rule was no pork in the house. So I never ate it until I turned 16 and godamn that bacon in a fry up was heavenly!