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I'm watching Audition for a class right now...
« on: November 16, 2008, 08:51:37 PM »
wtf, why did the burlap sack growl.  I'm scared EB, hold me  :'(

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Re: I'm watching Audition for a class right now...
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2008, 08:55:36 PM »
Is it some kind of messed up Psychology class? Are you hooked up to electrodes monitoring your heartrate, blood pressure, and EKG?
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Re: I'm watching Audition for a class right now...
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2008, 09:01:31 PM »
lol, it's for a japanese cinema class.  I have to write a 30 page term paper on it :'(

People have built up this guy's movies to me for years and I thought it would smack me over the head with violence...the fact that it isn't is making this shit so tense :lol

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Re: I'm watching Audition for a class right now...
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2008, 09:04:17 PM »
My wife loves this movie :'(

GET OUT OF THE HOUSE, SHE'S RIGHT BEHIND YOU  :o


edit: 3 extra fingers, an ear, and a tongue NOOOOOOOOO  :'(
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Re: I'm watching Audition for a class right now...
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2008, 09:30:47 PM »
love this movie but saw it before anyone could possibly tell me about it
 
like late 2000


so i missed the hype and the "zomg"

lucky me
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Re: I'm watching Audition for a class right now...
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2008, 09:35:32 PM »
I watched it post-hype.  Not impressed.  Felt the whole thing was feminist bullshit.
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Re: I'm watching Audition for a class right now...
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2008, 09:36:31 PM »
I watched it post-hype.  Not impressed.  Felt the whole thing was feminist bullshit.

say wha?

i would love to have you go on about this, but someone in this thread hasn't seen this film.
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Re: I'm watching Audition for a class right now...
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2008, 09:39:35 PM »
I like the first half is romantic comedy nonsense and then it goes into wf mode
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Re: I'm watching Audition for a class right now...
« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2008, 09:41:27 PM »
I like the first half is romantic comedy nonsense and then it goes into wf mode

remake w/ hugh grant and sandra bullock plz
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Re: I'm watching Audition for a class right now...
« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2008, 09:46:32 PM »
I like the first half is romantic comedy nonsense and then it goes into wf mode

remake w/ hugh grant and sandra bullock plz


don't give Steven Spielberg any ideas.

You guys can discuss it, she's torturing him right now, the foot came off, it's pretty much all over :'(  I won't check back until it's over...

for the record, I see the feminist side, but it's not unsympathetic to masculine issues either. I don't think it can be reduced to either side that easily.

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« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2008, 09:48:50 PM »


for the record, I see the feminist side, but it's not unsympathetic to masculine issues either. I don't think it can be reduced to either side that easily.

now watch Visitor Q
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« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2008, 09:50:42 PM »
I like the first half is romantic comedy nonsense and then it goes into wf mode

remake w/ hugh grant and sandra bullock plz
It has to older man so I'm thinking Richard Gere instead.
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Re: I'm watching Audition for a class right now...
« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2008, 09:52:57 PM »
Worst. Date. Ever.
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Re: I'm watching Audition for a class right now...
« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2008, 09:55:10 PM »
There's really nothing that the man did to deserve the kind of unrelenting torture unleashed upon him.
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« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2008, 09:59:20 PM »
There's really nothing that the man did to deserve the kind of unrelenting torture unleashed upon him.


it's sympathetic to him and the record company guy too.  She's insane and misread his intention for the auditions.  She thinks he's another scum bag, but he isn't, which is why he gets out of it in one pi....which is why he survives in the end. 

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Re: I'm watching Audition for a class right now...
« Reply #15 on: November 16, 2008, 10:08:11 PM »
There's really nothing that the man did to deserve the kind of unrelenting torture unleashed upon him.

he was in a miike movie, he got off easy

and lol at it being "feminist" bullshit -- again, it's a miike movie. he's been called a MISOGYNIST by brassier reviewers than you! he loves brutality, and just decided not to play gender favorites this time. audition is a troll movie: he sets up a romcom, and then gives you torture porn. everyone can lol at that!
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« Reply #16 on: November 16, 2008, 10:14:09 PM »
Miike's credentials aside, the film is hardly what I call sympathetic to the male lead.  To me, at least, it feels like it justifies the kind of Cenobite caliber torture porn that he must endure for manipulating the woman.  The man reluctantly agreed to the whole thing to begin with, he was hardly some kind of manipulative misogynist that such consequences were justified.
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Re: I'm watching Audition for a class right now...
« Reply #17 on: November 16, 2008, 10:16:05 PM »
I didn't realize this came out in 1999, weird.   I felt it lived up to the hype (though I didn't hear too much about it...most miike fans talk about ichi the killer.) 

this puts a kink in my plan to move to Japan and pick women with my vast knowledge of Japanese video games and cartoons though.

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Re: I'm watching Audition for a class right now...
« Reply #18 on: November 16, 2008, 10:25:20 PM »
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Miike's credentials aside, the film is hardly what I call sympathetic to the male lead.  To me, at least, it feels like it justifies the kind of Cenobite caliber torture porn that he must endure for manipulating the woman.  The man reluctantly agreed to the whole thing to begin with, he was hardly some kind of manipulative misogynist that such consequences were justified.

Fair enough.  The movie is split in my mind right now.  You've got his story--how he holds the audition, falls in love, and ignores her ugly side.  Everybody tells him not to stay with her, but he does anyway.  If anything, it's his bad luck. I know that's shallow, but it's a premise for the horror/torture porn scene (which did not end up being all that bad and I'm usually squeamish...)

Then her side of the story is how she's going to make him know "everything about her."  As much as she is an object to him (and she is objectified in the first half of the movie), he's an object to her...to get back at the people who screwed her over. 

Their stories tie together in that they've both known painful experiences.  He lost his wife and is just trying to get along. She has been abused all her life..and it's just his bad luck that they had to meet.  I think there's commentary about how her pain is greater than his or maybe it's just two different kinds of pain on display in the movie, which makes for a good suspense/thriller vehicle. 

Suicide Club has a similar thing, where the detective has to "overpay" for things he did...

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« Reply #19 on: November 16, 2008, 10:29:43 PM »
My major issue is that the film doesn't objectively state, "Hey, this bitch is crazy and this is just some random happenstance!"  I can swallow the whole life is ugly and that's it angle.  But it didn't sit well with me, because not only does the film try and justify her actions, the female lead is portrayed sympathetically.  She got fucked up so she does all this crazy shit?  Sorry, I'm American!  Abusive parents can be cured with Paxil and therapy!
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Re: I'm watching Audition for a class right now...
« Reply #20 on: November 16, 2008, 10:34:52 PM »
My major issue is that the film doesn't objectively state, "Hey, this bitch is crazy and this is just some random happenstance!"  I can swallow the whole life is ugly and that's it angle.  But it didn't sit well with me, because not only does the film try and justify her actions, the female lead is portrayed sympathetically. 

I think I realized she was nuts when she sat by the phone for days and the bag started growling :lol  the bag part was the worst...a cheap scare, but it worked!

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She got fucked up so she does all this crazy shit?  Sorry, I'm American!  Abusive parents can be cured with Paxil and therapy!

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Re: I'm watching Audition for a class right now...
« Reply #21 on: November 16, 2008, 11:07:57 PM »
sweet jesus

i'm watching Anatomy of Hell (french) and it opens with hardcore homo blow job.

and techno.

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Re: I'm watching Audition for a class right now...
« Reply #22 on: November 16, 2008, 11:14:25 PM »
Suicide Club has a similar thing, where the detective has to "overpay" for things he did...
same actor too.  Poor guy.

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Re: I'm watching Audition for a class right now...
« Reply #23 on: November 16, 2008, 11:16:04 PM »
Suicide Club has a similar thing, where the detective has to "overpay" for things he did...
same actor too.  Poor guy.

the glam musicians really made that movie.

oh look, now female blow job ending with ejaculate on lips.

we've already had homosexual oral sex, suicide attempts, female / male blowjobs and we're only 10 minutes in

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Re: I'm watching Audition for a class right now...
« Reply #24 on: November 17, 2008, 10:04:42 AM »
Suicide Club has a similar thing, where the detective has to "overpay" for things he did...
same actor too.  Poor guy.

I thought he was familiar.  Suicide Club was a weird movie. 


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It's definitely a sweet film. I really liked the scene where we get to see what's inside the bag.

yep, coughing up my breakfast just thinking about it.

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Re: I'm watching Audition for a class right now...
« Reply #25 on: November 17, 2008, 12:19:15 PM »
Watch the movie I linked to.

I'm not really into gory horror...does it have other redeeming qualities?

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Re: I'm watching Audition for a class right now...
« Reply #26 on: November 17, 2008, 09:19:27 PM »
sounds interesting..i like good technical aspects like music and cinematography, but for me to watch a gory film, it has to have a damn good story with good/creative character development.

hmm, we didn't even touch the feminist/misogynist subject much today (though apparently reviewers see it as more of a female revenge movie...something I don't really agree with.)  The discussion, or lack thereof, was kind of disappointing since I've been obsessed with this flick today. Though it turns out I only have to write 20 pages..yay! 
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