ITTWD Pearl Harbor, Hiroshima, Rape of Nanking, Agent Orange, and harsh language

[MrAngryFace]

This is Fallout 3 Thread Part 2 lol - Not sure why people argue with Boogie about history lol

[MyNameIsMethodis]

You take this shit way too seriously. 

Oh, I'm terribly sorry for being a history graduate with a passion for the history of international relations and a specific interest and background in the end of the war in the Pacific, for taking said subject seriously.

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Again, fuck you and your ignorance

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You're making something out of a small jab that I didn't fact check before I posted. I'm so sorry. Next time I do a jab i'll make sure everything is 100% correct and has full historical backing.

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[Howard Alan Treesong]

Mud, stop spinning, you got owned and we are all laughing. 

[Boogie]

Yeah, well, on GAF, people respond to my arguments by posting articles by NeoNazis...

In xabre's defense, I think he has an extra chromosome, which is why he typically acts like a distinguished mentally-challenged fellow.

haha, nice catch.  Wasn't sure anyone would get that reference. That exchange is still one of my favourite GAF moments.  Just too funny.

[MyNameIsMethodis]

Mud, stop spinning, you got owned and we are all laughing. 

Of course I got owned, but if I was actually trying to make significant points then I probably would've researched, but since my posting usually relies on whatever pops into my head, I don't fact check.

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traditionalists

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[Boogie]

You take this shit way too seriously. 

Oh, I'm terribly sorry for being a history graduate with a passion for the history of international relations and a specific interest and background in the end of the war in the Pacific, for taking said subject seriously.

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Again, fuck you and your ignorance

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You're making something out of a small jab that I didn't fact check before I posted. I'm so sorry. Next time I do a jab i'll make sure everything is 100% correct and has full historical backing.

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Apology accepted. 

Don't let it happen again. 

[MrAngryFace]

Methodis, you must do what I do in these situations. Leave the thread and pretend it never happened!

[MyNameIsMethodis]

Methodis, you must do what I do in these situations. Leave the thread and pretend it never happened!

I have the balls to face my owners though.

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[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Yeah, well, on GAF, people respond to my arguments by posting articles by NeoNazis...

In xabre's defense, I think he has an extra chromosome, which is why he typically acts like a distinguished mentally-challenged fellow.

haha, nice catch.  Wasn't sure anyone would get that reference. That exchange is still one of my favourite GAF moments.  Just too funny.

I think he wound up running away and started talking shit about you in other threads.

[Mandark]

This is Fallout 3 Thread Part 2 lol - Not sure why people argue with Boogie about history WW2 or Shadow Wars lol

Fixed.  I bet someone could talk rot about institutional reforms during the Tanzimat period of the Ottoman Empire and it might sneak by him.

But seriously, what's going on in this thread?  I assume someone started crapping up another topic so Patel redirected it here?

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PS  Oliver Kamm.  Meh.

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[MrAngryFace]

I crapped in patels thread when I showed forum outrage over someone saying the japanese "deserved" the bomb and then it turned into a large argument and patel made this thread.

[MyNameIsMethodis]

It was me who said that, and I was trying to cause controversy because the thread blew dick already.

[MrAngryFace]

haha you should work for fox news.

[laesperanzapaz]

boogie, a Canadian

therefore, Canada

although I cant ever imagine getting a relevant job after a history degree, but still

[MyNameIsMethodis]

Who say's I don't already

[MrAngryFace]

:-0

[MyNameIsMethodis]

I'm black, so I'm pretty easy to pick out over there.

[MrAngryFace]

boogie, a Canadian

therefore, Canada

although I cant ever imagine getting a relevant job after a history degree, but still

Mountie with a History Degree, i bet he can like teach shit while he busts people over the hood of their car.

[Mandark]

What's the difference between a history degree and an extra large pizza?

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The pizza can feed a family of four.

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[MrAngryFace]

ouch

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

zing 

[laesperanzapaz]

I crapped in patels thread when I showed forum outrage over someone saying the japanese "deserved" the bomb and then it turned into a large argument and patel made this thread.

not to start a whole new fight, but many people would disagree with your outrage, just FYI.  Of course, they are mostly old people, or people caught up in nationalist fervor, but I would certainly understand them.

oh yeah I forgot, does anyone remember the 2005 protests against Japan that was happening in China/Korea/Taiwan and the communities in Western north america? Good times!

And does anyone know why the Philippines are nowhere near as angry nowadays as their neighbors are over the WW2 incidents?

[MyNameIsMethodis]

What's the difference between a history degree and a normal joe schmoe?

[MyNameIsMethodis]

I crapped in patels thread when I showed forum outrage over someone saying the japanese "deserved" the bomb and then it turned into a large argument and patel made this thread.

And does anyone know why the Philippines are nowhere near as angry nowadays as their neighbors are over the WW2 incidents?

Because we're not exploiting their anals.

[Boogie]

This is Fallout 3 Thread Part 2 lol - Not sure why people argue with Boogie about history WW2 or Shadow Wars lol

Fixed.  I bet someone could talk rot about institutional reforms during the Tanzimat period of the Ottoman Empire and it might sneak by him.

It probably would.  But I'd at least try to make a good show of researching the subject before spouting off on the subject.

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And it's Ghost Wars, not Shadow Wars

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But seriously, what's going on in this thread?  I assume someone started crapping up another topic so Patel redirected it here?

I honestly have no idea.  All I know is that historical debate of the atomic bombings of Japan makes me horny.

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PS  Oliver Kamm.  Meh.

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I literally know nothing of Kamm beyond his Hiroshima articles/debates, but his writing on the subject seems mostly solid, if unnecessarily flamboyant and provocative.  I don't know anything of his other positions.

[Boogie]

boogie, a Canadian

therefore, Canada

although I cant ever imagine getting a relevant job after a history degree, but still

Relevant?  No.  Fun?  Hells yes!

Mountie with a History Degree, i bet he can like teach shit while he busts people over the hood of their car.

Damn straight!

What's the difference between a history degree and an extra large pizza?

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The pizza can feed a family of four.

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[MrAngryFace]

I crapped in patels thread when I showed forum outrage over someone saying the japanese "deserved" the bomb and then it turned into a large argument and patel made this thread.

not to start a whole new fight, but many people would disagree with your outrage, just FYI.  Of course, they are mostly old people, or people caught up in nationalist fervor, but I would certainly understand them.

oh yeah I forgot, does anyone remember the 2005 protests against Japan that was happening in China/Korea/Taiwan and the communities in Western north america? Good times!

And does anyone know why the Philippines are nowhere near as angry nowadays as their neighbors are over the WW2 incidents?

I

I crapped in patels thread when I showed forum outrage over someone saying the japanese "deserved" the bomb and then it turned into a large argument and patel made this thread.

not to start a whole new fight, but many people would disagree with your outrage, just FYI.  Of course, they are mostly old people, or people caught up in nationalist fervor, but I would certainly understand them.

oh yeah I forgot, does anyone remember the 2005 protests against Japan that was happening in China/Korea/Taiwan and the communities in Western north america? Good times!

And does anyone know why the Philippines are nowhere near as angry nowadays as their neighbors are over the WW2 incidents?

I fully expect people to disagree with me, but I always have the 'shut the fuck up' failsafe

[laesperanzapaz]

lol i just read the LIFE thread

WTF mAF.  THere was no need to bait people like that.

[Mandark]

Boogie:  Kamm's part of the British Decent Left (roughly an analog to the American neoconservatives) who's read a lot of history (I have no idea if he's officially credentialed).

He's fluent enough about wartime history that I'm willing to take him at face value if someone I trust vouches for what he wrote, like you did in this case, but he's consistently disingenuous enough that I won't otherwise.

[MyNameIsMethodis]

Um, Japans own terms were ludicrous and obviously wouldn't end the war, just put a break into it until Japan could recoop. And I disagree about them being severly beaten. That isn't really true at all. America was focusing on Germany the whole time, once that ended, Japan decided to be bitches and not give up, so the USSR got involved and they and America knew that once the Russians are involved, everything goes to hell.

And how did you miss what Boogie said about Operation ?? (i forgot already). Japan wasn't "beaten down and broken" at all.

[Boogie]

I will say this to the fuck morans on this board- The A-Bomb was the best move in a bad situation for Americans.

Honestly, the best move would have been to let Japan just surrender on its own terms, then pack up and go home. There was no need for firebombing, atomic-bombing or a full-scale invasion. They were already thoroughly beaten at that point and wouldn't have posed a thread to any country ever again. What we did to Japan was the equivalent of breaking the fingers of someone whose ass you've already kicked just to get him to say "uncle."

I disagree with your conclusion, especially the bolded portion.  But that is something that I will hopefully address on the weekend.  for now, I should really get some sleep.

[MyNameIsMethodis]

Because you're underpredicting the power they actually had. With conditional surrender, it was no question that they'd eventually build up fast (like in a years time) and start shit again, and this time Russia would be seriously involved.

Plus that whole China red thing...

Also what do you mean "at that point"? Are you talking pre bombs or after? Because pre-bomb Japan was just getting started for the epic battles at the end. They certainly weren't down and beating. Infact they were doing a pretty good beating on the US Troops in japan already thanks to civilians with weapons and their tactics.

[bagofeyes]

But what if the commies came and took Japan? You'd like that wouldn't you, comrade!

[Mandark]

Btw, what's the difference between a history major and a Jew?

wat

[demi]

LOL exactly my reponse to that question.

[huckleberry]

What's the difference between a history degree and an extra large pizza?

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The pizza can feed a family of four.

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 :'(


Do you know how true this is?


 

[drozmight]

the us shoulda just dropped an a-bomb off shore somewhere where all the people in charge of japan could see it and go, "oh fuuuuuuuuuccckkkk!"

then the giant mutant would've just come ashore, started kicking over their buildings and shit distracting them while while the allies stole their flag.





oh hey, what's going on in this thread.

[Himu]

I just hate people making light of something so destructive. Nuclear weapons shouldnt be an answer for anything.

I certainly don't think this and I don't think anyone in this thread thinks this either. But at the time, could you really blame them?

edit: nevermind forgot my name is mud haha

[Eric P]

I'm black, so I'm pretty easy to pick out over there.

no you're not

[MyNameIsMethodis]

I'm black, so I'm pretty easy to pick out over there.

no you're not

 

[Don Flamenco]

If we let Japan surrender on its own terms, we wouldn't be playing their video games (or watching their anime) today. 

[Cheebs]

This is like the 5th time in the last 24 hours I saw the full house theme posted on EB.