Author Topic: Persona 4 thread (Read 49092 times)

TVC15 · « **Reply #360 on:** January 02, 2009, 05:23:34 AM »

Well, at least with bosses you can come in with near full SP because you an start on their floors. My problem with Mitsuo is that I am using big SP abilities and I am a bit underleveled, so I needed a mid-fight SP boost. I had one of the items that gives you 50 SP, but that wasn't near enough. I basically needed one character to get his SP back, and the soma (which is rare and fives full HP/SP to everyone) was really my only option.

I also make sure I check every chest on every floor and all. I really wish they sold even a half decent SP item in the store.

Mondain · « **Reply #361 on:** January 02, 2009, 05:27:13 AM »

the only option is to buy soda cans but the machines get sold out real fast and you have a week of waiting needed before they get filled up again... and the cans only give you back either 5 or 10 SP

TVC15 · « **Reply #362 on:** January 02, 2009, 05:29:46 AM »

And 5 and 10 SP really isn't even worthwhile unless you can chug 20 of them outside of battle. I'm talking about needing SP mid-battle when a mere 5 SP point heal would be a waste of time.

siamesedreamer · « **Reply #363 on:** January 02, 2009, 06:39:49 AM »

Quote from: BlueTsunami on January 01, 2009, 09:15:16 PM

The TV is probably trying to upconvert the resolution of the game to the native one of the HDTV (and doing horribly). Do you have a PS3? That may fare better at upconverting the game.

No PS3. I'm just dealing with it. Guess I could just be used to games looking much more crisp this generation...

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #364 on:** January 02, 2009, 07:05:10 AM »

Matsuo is so busting my balls right now. I dont' know how one would beat him without the exact technique of spamming Mind Charge and some high level spell. I also need one of companions to learn a fucking healing spell that isn't light, Yuikiko, your worthless!

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #365 on:** January 02, 2009, 11:55:16 AM »

yousuke learns diarama at like 38, and teddie learns mediarama at 43. why aren't you using teddie, bt? teddie loves you!

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #366 on:** January 02, 2009, 12:27:42 PM »

The Mitsuo fight is honestly probably the toughest one in the game, at least in my opinion. Forge a personality that is immune to darkness for the latter half of the fight so he doesn't one shot your mc. I used my soma mid battle with no regrets, I finished the game with like 3 and didn't need to use one for the last boss. I didn't bother with the true ending, maybe one day.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #367 on:** January 02, 2009, 12:33:56 PM »

you get somas/somae? and sp restore items from doing the npc quests

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #368 on:** January 02, 2009, 02:53:04 PM »

Quote from: Professor Prole on January 02, 2009, 11:55:16 AM

yousuke learns diarama at like 38, and teddie learns mediarama at 43. why aren't you using teddie, bt? teddie loves you!

I think I'll do that. I like using Chie but I think Teddie could probably fill her spot better.

TVC15 · « **Reply #369 on:** January 02, 2009, 03:40:33 PM »

Teddie had mediarama when I first got him.

Junpei the Tracer! · « **Reply #370 on:** January 02, 2009, 05:52:57 PM »

I didn't think that was gonna happen to Teddie and I certainly didn't expect him to join the party. Very neato.

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #371 on:** January 02, 2009, 07:16:49 PM »

Quote from: Professor Prole on January 02, 2009, 11:55:16 AM

yousuke learns diarama at like 38, and teddie learns mediarama at 43. why aren't you using teddie, bt? teddie loves you!

Quote from: TVC 15 on January 02, 2009, 03:40:33 PM

Teddie had mediarama when I first got him.

Thanks guys. I didn't think to use Teddie, but his healing ability helped a lot during that boss battle (got through it).

TVC15 · « **Reply #372 on:** January 02, 2009, 07:38:40 PM »

Black Frost is awesome. I'd totally let him clown around in my ass, ho ho.

I want/need this

Junpei the Tracer! · « **Reply #373 on:** January 02, 2009, 07:46:32 PM »

Who did ya fuse to get him? I maxed out Yumi Ozawa

TVC15 · « **Reply #374 on:** January 02, 2009, 07:49:24 PM »

It's a five way fusion. You get them later on. I think it was Jack Frost, Pyro Jack, King Frost, Ghoul, Pixie.

Akala · « **Reply #375 on:** January 02, 2009, 07:50:29 PM »

Finally getting a chance to crack out on this tonight. If my wife ever stops cursing at Zelda.

demi · « **Reply #376 on:** January 02, 2009, 07:51:17 PM »

Quote from: TVC 15 on January 02, 2009, 07:38:40 PM

Black Frost is awesome. I'd totally let him clown around in my ass, ho ho.

I want/need this

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Is that a Digital Devil Saga 2 symbol I see? Yes... I believe that's superiority

ch1nchilla · « **Reply #377 on:** January 03, 2009, 04:36:56 AM »

Finally reached Kanji, will give it a coherent shot in the morning. FULLY addicted to the whole sim aspect now.

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #378 on:** January 03, 2009, 07:25:29 AM »

Just caught myself a Guardian Fish. Not only can you exchange this fish for kickass gear (varying, each month) it also can completely replenish one characters SP

Got this off Gamefaqs, helped a lot

Quote

NAME )
( Timing, vibration strength )

INABA TROUT
1 second, medium

RED GOLDFISH
1-1.5 seconds, light

AMBER SEEMA
1.5 seconds, light

GENJI AYU
2 seconds, medium

HUGE FISH
2 seconds, heavy

GUARDIAN
4 seconds, very heavy

Huge Fish and Guardians can only be fished for on Rainy Days (and supposedly everyday during December). I'm about to exchange it for a piece of Armor that gives you 50% more EXP

I was worried that discerning between the Guardian and Huge fish would be hard but hell no, when you've hooked a Guardian fish, you'll know.

ananus · « **Reply #379 on:** January 03, 2009, 12:48:09 PM »

argh, i'm supposed to get one of those to finish the fox s.link but i just can't do it. i couldn't even get a big one, i just bought two off the tv.

Lucretius · « **Reply #380 on:** January 03, 2009, 04:20:14 PM »

Quote from: BlueTsunami on January 03, 2009, 07:25:29 AM

Just caught myself a Guardian Fish. Not only can you exchange this fish for kickass gear (varying, each month) it also can completely replenish one characters SP

Be sure to save one Huge Fish and one Guardian for the final quest of the Fox S.Link. Maxing out Fox is super helpful in later dungeons if you need to grind.

Lucretius · « **Reply #381 on:** January 03, 2009, 08:22:39 PM »

Hey, Demi. I picked up DDS2 new today for 49.95 USD. It's going for $89 new on amazon. Lucky me! Anyway, I'll pick up the first DDS before I finish P3FES and that will be my next game.

demi · « **Reply #382 on:** January 03, 2009, 08:28:15 PM »

Yeah baby

Lucretius · « **Reply #383 on:** January 03, 2009, 08:47:15 PM »

Quote from: demi on January 03, 2009, 08:28:15 PM

Yeah baby

Someone told me not even to look at the back of the case of DDS2 unless I wanted a huge spoiler. So I'm resisting. Gonna just hide it away for now.

demi · « **Reply #384 on:** January 03, 2009, 08:49:03 PM »

Well it takes place like 10 minutes after the first game, so yeah - for some reason they split the game across two seperate retail discs

Lucretius · « **Reply #385 on:** January 03, 2009, 08:58:06 PM »

I'm just now starting to dig P3. The story takes ages to get off the ground. And I'm definitely missing direct control over my teammates. Even the AI in P4 is WAY better than the AI in P3. In P4 my teammates ALWAYs exploited the enemy weaknesses once I'd uncovered it. P3 not so much. The combat in P4 is SOOOO much better than P3.

TVC15 · « **Reply #386 on:** January 03, 2009, 11:52:30 PM »

School ended for summer and my current fox quest involves a girl inside the school. Am I screwed until school reopens?

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #387 on:** January 04, 2009, 01:05:00 AM »

Quote from: TVC 15 on January 03, 2009, 11:52:30 PM

School ended for summer and my current fox quest involves a girl inside the school. Am I screwed until school reopens?

I did the exact same thing and thought I would miss the September rare equipment (you need to get to the last Fox quest to get the better fishing gear). Fortunately, if you make it your priority to finish the Fox S.Link before the end of September, you'll be able to do it (there's also a rainy day a few days before October, so you can catch a Guardian). It'll probably be a good idea to catch a Huge Fish or two before you reach this point though. Dexterity helps with fishing, the higher Dexterity you have, the more chances you have at catching fish. I believe you need one Huge Fish and one Guardian to completely finish this S.Link.

TVC15 · « **Reply #388 on:** January 04, 2009, 01:05:49 AM »

Ugh, fishing? I haven't done any of that.

Lucretius · « **Reply #389 on:** January 04, 2009, 02:54:43 AM »

I didn't realize until really late in the game that you can fish at night... after the game sends you back to the Dojima residence, you can go out the front door and go fishing or to your job at the hospital (if you've taken the job). This would have saved me many after school times I wasted fishing.

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #390 on:** January 04, 2009, 03:21:28 AM »

Quote from: TVC 15 on January 04, 2009, 01:05:49 AM

Ugh, fishing? I haven't done any of that.

Its simple once you get the timing down. But higher Dexterity helps to be able to get a few attempts. I also believe there's a Quest at #6 or #7 on Fox's S.Link that's going to require you to fish for a Goldfish (I think its called).

TVC15 · « **Reply #391 on:** January 04, 2009, 03:25:27 AM »

I spend my nights at the Silent Hill hospital with evil pedo nurse.

Now i'm going to masturbate while imagining I am pulling down BlueTsunami's A-Team underoos very slowly and then the drinking and Personaing will begin. I need to beat Mitsuo!

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #392 on:** January 04, 2009, 03:33:25 AM »

Mitsuo was such a fucking pain, even with an optimal setup, he had the ability to wipe me out with his "omg I'm about to die" skills. Bosses that have the ability to weaken you then use an ability to exploit said weakness within the same turn are freakin cheap.

But about the Midnight Nurse, she's a freak-a-leak

I love how she responds positively to you being at odds with her

TVC15 · « **Reply #393 on:** January 04, 2009, 03:48:54 AM »

Yeah, I am fairly sure that beating Mitsuo is possible at my level (heck, I almost beat him my first try, and I've had 2 grinding nights since then), but there's a bit of luck involved. It's just a crapshoot long fight, and it will always be a long slog since he tends to kill you just before he's almost dead.

Lucretius · « **Reply #394 on:** January 04, 2009, 03:51:25 AM »

Mitsuo was a long grind. I can't remember if it was him who had the Evil Smile followed by Ghastly Wail attack. I think I had an accessory that prevented Fear. That was a must. There's another miniboss in the last dungeon that does that combo as well.

TVC15 · « **Reply #395 on:** January 04, 2009, 03:52:58 AM »

Ugh, I need to induce toilet tantrum first. I have my trusty fingers ready.

TVC15 · « **Reply #396 on:** January 04, 2009, 04:33:32 AM »

That was a 5 alarm toilet tantrum. I completely emptied myself and there was plenty o bile, too. My throat is burning bad. The vomit was hitting the water so hard that the toilet water was splashing all over my face. And since I had just been masturbating, I imagined myself puking all over BlueTsunami's cock.

TVC15 · « **Reply #397 on:** January 04, 2009, 05:15:54 AM »

YES! I BEAT HIM ON MY FIRST TRY! DID NOT HAVE TO USE SOMA! YOU ALL DOUBTED THE POWER OF THE TOILET TANTRUM SOCIAL LINK. I just needed to get it up that one last level.

TVC15 · « **Reply #398 on:** January 04, 2009, 05:49:08 AM »

And as a bonus:

YAY HE IS HOMO CONFIRMED!

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #399 on:** January 04, 2009, 06:01:21 AM »

hahahahhaha, that's fucking awesome. Kanji

TVC15 · « **Reply #400 on:** January 04, 2009, 06:08:50 AM »

No lie--after that, the screen goes black, and a text bubble that says "Kanji stayed a lot longer than expected" pops up, and you hear Kanji enthusiastically yell OH YEAH! in the background. Someone got Kool-Aid Manned in the ass.

Junpei the Tracer! · « **Reply #401 on:** January 04, 2009, 10:05:35 AM »

Oh my.

Lucretius · « **Reply #402 on:** January 04, 2009, 05:34:55 PM »

Kanji is handled a lot better than the queer boy in Persona 3 FES... I just started the social link in P3 with the foreign exchange student from France. His name is Bebe. He speaks with a French accent and carries a fan with butterflies on it. You spend all your S.Link time with him in the Fashion club that meets in the Home Ec room.

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #403 on:** January 04, 2009, 05:54:37 PM »

Quote from: Lucretius on January 04, 2009, 05:34:55 PM

Kanji is handled a lot better than the queer boy in Persona 3 FES... I just started the social link in P3 with the foreign exchange student from France. His name is Bebe. He speaks with a French accent and carries a fan with butterflies on it. You spend all your S.Link time with him in the Fashion club that meets in the Home Ec room.

Are P3 and P3FES two different games?

TVC15 · « **Reply #404 on:** January 04, 2009, 06:00:12 PM »

No. P3 FES is the original game with bonus content, including a whole new separate quest (that blows, apparently). There's also a new S.Link (the chick in the Velvet Room) and about 25 new personae. And they change the quiz answers in class to make the old strat guide unreliable.

Lucretius · « **Reply #405 on:** January 04, 2009, 06:01:34 PM »

Quote from: TVC 15 on January 04, 2009, 06:00:12 PM

No. P3 FES is the original game with bonus content, including a whole new separate quest (that blows, apparently). There's also a new S.Link (the chick in the Velvet Room) and about 25 new personae. And they change the quiz answers in class to make the old strat guide unreliable.

I haven't gotten to "The Answer" (the new separate quest in P3FES) yet, but everything I've read says it's excellent.

TVC15 · « **Reply #406 on:** January 04, 2009, 06:05:43 PM »

Everyone I've heard talk about it hasn't liked it. The new character sucks, annoying VA, it's just a dungeon slog, no socializing, stupid difficult. I think there was something else about the general mechanics that sounded lame, too, but I forget.

ananus · « **Reply #407 on:** January 04, 2009, 06:09:55 PM »

the answer sucks. even though i liked p3 i couldn't stand it.

also, the good ending path seems to be great in p4. though i haven't gotten to it yet, i was wondering what would be left after the normal ending and read about it. my mind was blown just by knowing a bit of it, though i guess that might be the best part about the good ending itself.

Lucretius · « **Reply #408 on:** January 04, 2009, 06:11:14 PM »

I loved the true ending of P4

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #409 on:** January 04, 2009, 06:25:33 PM »

bebe isn't a real 'mo, he's just TOTALLY GAY

y2kev · « **Reply #410 on:** January 04, 2009, 06:29:41 PM »

Quote from: TVC 15 on January 04, 2009, 05:49:08 AM

And as a bonus:

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YAY HE IS HOMO CONFIRMED!

how convenient he reveals this while he has you cornered in your room

Junpei the Tracer! · « **Reply #411 on:** January 04, 2009, 08:34:49 PM »

Chie chan's my girlfriend

Junpei the Tracer! · « **Reply #412 on:** January 05, 2009, 01:16:40 AM »

This game is so good :'(

Junpei the Tracer! · « **Reply #413 on:** January 05, 2009, 04:24:31 PM »

I just maxed out Chie and her persona changed into a new one! Holy shit! It has a dual light saber!

ch1nchilla · « **Reply #414 on:** January 05, 2009, 08:30:50 PM »

Finally beat Kanji's dungeon, and my Yukiko ranking is going up. Can I bang both Yukiko and the theater one?

Now that nearly all of my friends have gone back to school and I have another 5 days left, I have nothing but time to finish this.

recursivelyenumerable · « **Reply #415 on:** January 05, 2009, 08:36:02 PM »

bought this. but still no ps2.

ch1nchilla · « **Reply #416 on:** January 06, 2009, 01:10:05 AM »

It's kind of lame that you have to go through the whole dungeon again to fight the bonus boss... I guess it's a good way to get Kanji up to par, though. Also becoming increasingly frustrated by the linear structure of the day-to-day sim stuff, like how you can't entirely focus on maxing out any one single relationship. Any tips for that?

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #417 on:** January 06, 2009, 01:41:43 AM »

Even menial tasks take up a whole day, and yeah it is annoying at first. You'll eventually just live with it and once various S.Links and Stats are raised you don't worry about it anymore. Also, New Game+ carries over stats (Courage, Dexterity, Knowledge.. etc) so on the second pass you should be able to max out all S.Links.

Junpei the Tracer! · « **Reply #418 on:** January 14, 2009, 08:09:06 PM »

It seems only me and BlueTsu are the only still mulling around in TV Land. I remember reading comments that after a while it was obvious who the killer was but don't see how it was obvious. I mean I kinda knew before hand but going through the story, it seemed like a honest mystery.

ch1nchilla · « **Reply #419 on:** January 14, 2009, 09:02:11 PM »

I have to shelve this for now... Probably won't be able to finish it until summer. :'(

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