Author Topic: evilbore votes: worst game of 2008 (Read 16957 times)

littlemathletics · « **Reply #120 on:** December 30, 2008, 02:08:44 AM »

Well, it was created by a guy with Asperger's.

Tabasco · « **Reply #121 on:** December 30, 2008, 06:15:19 AM »

Biggest disappointment is Mercs2.

I voted for Wii library b/c it will destroy the hobby.

Duckman, maybe it's time to give up games. If this is the worst year of gaming then maybe you just don't like videogames anymore?

notstupid · « **Reply #122 on:** December 30, 2008, 02:43:52 PM »

SSBB: i don't know what the fuck they did to that game but i absolutely hate it (and this is coming from somebody who loved melee). and that single player, holy shit, everything about the single player was shitty shitty shitty. and multi just did not have that touch that made it "fun" for me.

Guybrush Threepwood · « **Reply #123 on:** December 31, 2008, 04:52:55 PM »

I was so disappointed when I found out that you use SSB's standard controls for every character in the single player mode.

I thought the Mario story mode would feel like a Mario game, the Sonic story mode like a Sonic game, etc.

y2kev · « **Reply #124 on:** December 31, 2008, 05:14:21 PM »

force unleashed seems to blow and i just started it

cool breeze · « **Reply #125 on:** December 31, 2008, 06:03:02 PM »

it gets worse

y2kev · « **Reply #126 on:** December 31, 2008, 10:53:25 PM »

ya i agree, aitd

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #127 on:** December 31, 2008, 11:08:36 PM »

Isn't there a DS game/cartridge whatever the fuck that sports a bunch of public domain book for $20?

cool breeze · « **Reply #128 on:** December 31, 2008, 11:09:52 PM »

I played both the PS3 and 360 AITD demos and they honestly didn't seem that terrible. It was a bit like they had a bunch of interesting ideas that got ruined because of poor execution. There were a bunch of games this year that both were poor and concept and execution, like Fracture.

y2kev · « **Reply #129 on:** December 31, 2008, 11:15:48 PM »

fracture is not the fucking universe

aitd is

dammitmattt · « **Reply #130 on:** January 01, 2009, 02:24:26 AM »

Quote from: EmCeeGrammar on December 30, 2008, 01:22:50 AM

Autism can't be cured silly. And I'm guessing you're saying I'm making excuses, which is bullshit because I spent 2007-2008 trying to make friends, hanging out, reading up on social graces, and spending my stimulus check on a therapist and Im still where I started when I was being the awkward fuckwit of gradeschool. So please, dont assume shit.

Everything makes sense now.

At least we agree that NMH sucks.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #131 on:** January 01, 2009, 03:15:04 AM »

i must reiterate gtaiv

the more GOTY lists it tops, the more i hate it

congratulations on condemning yourselves to awful plotlines, jacked-the-fuck-up controls, and sophomoric "satire," gaming media

everything i played on the wii this year, no matter how awful, was more fun than gtaiv

even carnival games mini-golf (which was

)

gataiv is rapidly becoming one of my most hated games ever

ch1nchilla · « **Reply #132 on:** January 02, 2009, 04:52:31 PM »

Quote from: Eel O'Brian on January 01, 2009, 03:15:04 AM

i must reiterate gtaiv

the more GOTY lists it tops, the more i hate it

congratulations on condemning yourselves to awful plotlines, jacked-the-fuck-up controls, and sophomoric "satire," gaming media

everything i played on the wii this year, no matter how awful, was more fun than gtaiv

even carnival games mini-golf (which was )

gataiv is rapidly becoming one of my most hated games ever

I agree.

recursivelyenumerable · « **Reply #133 on:** January 02, 2009, 06:13:30 PM »

i haven't played gtaiv but i'm going to start championing it just 'cuz

Robo · « **Reply #134 on:** January 02, 2009, 06:26:46 PM »

I want to change my vote to Guitar Hero World Tour.

ferrarimanf355 · « **Reply #135 on:** January 02, 2009, 10:32:45 PM »

Smash Bros. Brawl. Who the hell even considers it a fighting game, let alone a good one?

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #136 on:** January 02, 2009, 10:59:18 PM »

after thinking about it, yeah, COD5 is the worst game of 2008 i've played.

I at least managed to struggle through R2, but I absolutely couldn't manage through COD5. I'm usually able to beat games in a few days, but I had COD5 for about a month and just couldn't bear playing for more than 15 minutes or so at a time.

I can see in Resistance 2 that they tried to make a good game. There's effort there that mostly falls flat, but there isn't any effort in COD5. It's just tired and boring.

y2kev · « **Reply #137 on:** January 02, 2009, 11:13:10 PM »

i think it's better than resistance and its shorter so less punishment

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #138 on:** January 03, 2009, 07:23:15 AM »

Quote from: ferrarimanf355 on January 02, 2009, 10:32:45 PM

Smash Bros. Brawl. Who the hell even considers it a fighting game, let alone a good one?

Melee ended up a fighting game BY ACCIDENT. There were combos because there was hitstun. Lcanceling was originaly designed to let a player bring up their shield quickly from a laggy aerial. But players just used the reduced lag to go on the attack. So combine hit stun with an exploit to move quicker and with enough practice you have plenty of setups for combos. Risk vs reward factor was in great effect.

I guess sakurai watched too many youtube videos and realised his fanservice partygame had unitentionaly become fiercely competitive. So for brawl hitstun is minimal, attacks send the opponent too far away to follow up consistently, directional influence is crazy effective at getting out of harms way, slow falling speeds etc.
And the most obvious hint that it was intentionaly designed to be non-competitive? Random tripping!

I still ruv it though. But while melee was a fighter with satisfying depth, brawl is just simple fanservice fun.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #139 on:** January 03, 2009, 12:07:26 PM »

Quote from: EmCeeGrammar on January 03, 2009, 07:23:15 AM

Quote from: ferrarimanf355 on January 02, 2009, 10:32:45 PM
Smash Bros. Brawl. Who the hell even considers it a fighting game, let alone a good one?

Melee ended up a fighting game BY ACCIDENT. There were combos because there was hitstun. Lcanceling was originaly designed to let a player bring up their shield quickly from a laggy aerial. But players just used the reduced lag to go on the attack. So combine hit stun with an exploit to move quicker and with enough practice you have plenty of setups for combos. Risk vs reward factor was in great effect.

I guess sakurai watched too many youtube videos and realised his fanservice partygame had unitentionaly become fiercely competitive. So for brawl hitstun is minimal, attacks send the opponent too far away to follow up consistently, directional influence is crazy effective at getting out of harms way, slow falling speeds etc.
And the most obvious hint that it was intentionaly designed to be non-competitive? Random tripping!

I still ruv it though. But while melee was a fighter with satisfying depth, brawl is just simple fanservice fun.

Haha, I never used some of those techniques (knowingly) in Melee but I guess now I know why I like it more than Brawl.

y2kev · « **Reply #140 on:** January 03, 2009, 12:13:42 PM »

But, see, this presupposes that Sakurai is NOT just throwing shit at a wall and seeing what sticks. As you mentioned, Melee is a fighting game by accident. It's a complete coincidence. So with Brawl, what makes you think Sakurai was "correcting" these things? I think it's far more likely that the new dev team simply did whatever and whatever happened was the final result.

edit: With the exception of tripping, which, infrequent as it is, is inexplicable. Really unique attempt at "balancing" there, Sakurai.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #141 on:** January 03, 2009, 12:23:38 PM »

Is tripping really noticeable?

y2kev · « **Reply #142 on:** January 03, 2009, 12:25:27 PM »

It's based on how fast and how frequently you are moving, so a match full of "pro" players will definitely see it.

cool breeze · « **Reply #143 on:** January 03, 2009, 12:28:42 PM »

I can remember only one time when tripping was a problem in the game, but even then it was hardly an issue. I don't get how people consider Smash Bros a fighting game. I remember the 1upshow where they had the 'pros' on and they talked about 'pro' techniques like hanging onto the ledge so another person can't...yeah

y2kev · « **Reply #144 on:** January 03, 2009, 12:33:12 PM »

It's not that tripping is frequent (it's not), it's the whole approach to balancing that would produce something like tripping that weirds me out.

It would be like....if in 3rd Strike, parrying too frequently made your character get dizzy and take a second break.

archie4208 · « **Reply #145 on:** January 03, 2009, 12:37:54 PM »

I'm still bitter that Sakurai raped Smash. I wish Nintendo had just made Melee online as originally planned.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #146 on:** January 03, 2009, 12:39:28 PM »

What's so borked about Brawl compared to Melee? It's like Melee, only it has more shit.

cool breeze · « **Reply #147 on:** January 03, 2009, 12:43:03 PM »

it would be a bit like explaining how one version of Street Fighter 2 is different from the one that came after it. On the surface it seems like it would be the same game, but the changes are more minor. Most obvious ones are the super attacks and slower/more floaty movement.

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #148 on:** January 03, 2009, 12:50:42 PM »

Brawl characters move around like they're in water. The game is slowed for who the fuck knows why because many of the changes made in Melee were in the right direction. Brawl for whatever reason took a step back.

Best way to describe it is one step forward, two steps back. You can pack a game full of shit but if the fundamental mechanics of it are crap, the overall package isn't so great overall.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #149 on:** January 03, 2009, 01:38:18 PM »

I don't agree, I think they definitely borked a lot of the characters (Link fucking sucks this time), but all of my main characters are slow-Sonic, Wolf, Wario. They move just fine.

I've never thought of Brawl as two steps back, I don't know. Only shit thing about it was online.

ferrarimanf355 · « **Reply #150 on:** January 03, 2009, 01:52:58 PM »

Yeah, whatever, the Nintendorks need to play a real fighting game. Isn't there a Guilty Gear game on Wii?

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #151 on:** January 03, 2009, 03:35:38 PM »

Guilty Gear isn't that fun, they need like, a good soul calibur or something

cool breeze · « **Reply #152 on:** January 03, 2009, 03:38:15 PM »

uh, Tatsunoko vs Capcom

Oblivion · « **Reply #153 on:** January 03, 2009, 04:25:07 PM »

Quote from: AdmiralViscen on January 03, 2009, 12:23:38 PM

Is tripping really noticeable?

Hell yeah it's noticeable. Happened a shitton of times when I was playing. Possibly the most useless addition to game (I honestly don't know what the point was).

Quote from: ferrarimanf355 on January 02, 2009, 10:32:45 PM

Smash Bros. Brawl. Who the hell even considers it a fighting game, let alone a good one?

But, it IS a fighting game.

/canoworms

Quote from: T EXP on January 03, 2009, 12:50:42 PM

Brawl characters move around like they're in water. The game is slowed for who the fuck knows why because many of the changes made in Melee were in the right direction. Brawl for whatever reason took a step back.

Best way to describe it is one step forward, two steps back. You can pack a game full of shit but if the fundamental mechanics of it are crap, the overall package isn't so great overall.

This. Melee was a lot more frantic, and as a result more fun. Actually, I never tried altering the speed in Brawl in the special stages. I wonder if that would make it a bit more tolerable.

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #154 on:** January 03, 2009, 04:31:03 PM »

Quote from: y2kev on January 03, 2009, 12:13:42 PM

But, see, this presupposes that Sakurai is NOT just throwing shit at a wall and seeing what sticks. As you mentioned, Melee is a fighting game by accident. It's a complete coincidence. So with Brawl, what makes you think Sakurai was "correcting" these things? I think it's far more likely that the new dev team simply did whatever and whatever happened was the final result.

edit: With the exception of tripping, which, infrequent as it is, is inexplicable. Really unique attempt at "balancing" there, Sakurai.

Sakurai did some article for famitsu whereas he expressed (sp?) his desires to make a game anyone can win, because the joy from multiplayer doesnt come from one guy dominating blah blah blah. Wants people to laugh at themselves when they lose, etc. Everything in brawl feels like an attempt to remove the pure competitive element. Can you think of a good reason to have almost no hitstun in a game like this.
Tripping is random, there's no fancy algorithim, it just happens.

Its still fun, but I'm not going to defend it as a fighting game because it no longer feels like one.

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #155 on:** January 03, 2009, 05:22:49 PM »

Brawl is around only to look at the little statues you win and the

moment when the secret character is a character in a game you liked or even Snake or Sonic.

It is entirely fanservice and it didn't need to be that way.

Crushed · « **Reply #156 on:** January 03, 2009, 05:30:53 PM »

Yeah, as much as I like Brawl (and I think that it does a lot better than Melee), it feels like less of a fighting game, and more like a bunch of extra bonus modes for a "main game" that doesn't exist.

To use a lol food analogy lol, Melee is like a plain sugar cookie, while Brawl is a chunky chocolate chip sugar-free cookie. It's got more of what you like, but by attempting to be "guilt-free" (regarding winning and losing) it has a somewhat bland flavor.

Quote from: T EXP on January 03, 2009, 05:22:49 PM

Brawl is around only to look at the little statues you win and the moment when the secret character is a character in a game you liked or even Snake or Sonic.

It is entirely fanservice and it didn't need to be that way.

That's true. It felt like it was more about looking at the gameplay features and polished presentation and hidden secrets. Those are fun things to have in a game, but it eclipsed the game itself.

SSB didn't even start out as a Nintendo fanservice title, it was just Sakurai and Iwata's little experiment in making a new type of fighting game. Nintendo stuff was added because they knew nobody in their right mind would otherwise buy an N64 fighting game.

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #157 on:** January 03, 2009, 05:58:14 PM »

I could see SSB4 be a collection of short adventure and fighting levels.

ferrarimanf355 · « **Reply #158 on:** January 03, 2009, 06:11:38 PM »

Quote from: BrandNew on January 03, 2009, 03:35:38 PM

Guilty Gear isn't that fun, they need like, a good soul calibur or something

Gamecube version of Soul Calibur II. Problem solved.

demi · « **Reply #159 on:** January 03, 2009, 08:07:37 PM »

Quote from: BrandNew on January 03, 2009, 03:35:38 PM

Guilty Gear isn't that fun

distinguished mentally-challenged fellow

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #160 on:** January 03, 2009, 09:43:17 PM »

Quote from: Crushed on January 03, 2009, 05:30:53 PM

SSB didn't even start out as a Nintendo fanservice title, it was just Sakurai and Iwata's little experiment in making a new type of fighting game. Nintendo stuff was added because they knew nobody in their right mind would otherwise buy an N64 fighting game.

Can we get some background on this?

Tucah · « **Reply #161 on:** January 03, 2009, 09:45:19 PM »

Quote from: AdmiralViscen on January 03, 2009, 09:43:17 PM

Quote from: Crushed on January 03, 2009, 05:30:53 PM

SSB didn't even start out as a Nintendo fanservice title, it was just Sakurai and Iwata's little experiment in making a new type of fighting game. Nintendo stuff was added because they knew nobody in their right mind would otherwise buy an N64 fighting game.

Can we get some background on this?

http://us.wii.com/iwata_asks/ssbb/vol7_page1.jsp

E-DuB · « **Reply #162 on:** January 03, 2009, 11:05:32 PM »

Wii catalog. The diamonds in the rough kept my Wii in sporadic use this year, but the shovel-ware had me scratching my head at how some of these games were approved

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #163 on:** January 03, 2009, 11:54:38 PM »

Quote from: demi on January 03, 2009, 08:07:37 PM

Quote from: BrandNew on January 03, 2009, 03:35:38 PM
Guilty Gear isn't that fun

distinguished mentally-challenged fellow

goddamn you have bad tastes

demi · « **Reply #164 on:** January 04, 2009, 12:10:25 AM »

You honestly think Guilty Gear is not fun?

No? I can understand if you suck and need something simple like Super Smash Brothers...

Purple Filth · « **Reply #165 on:** January 04, 2009, 12:30:28 AM »

Guilty Gear is awesome, the only thing that's annoying is the constant tweaked versions they keep releasing

fuck the haters

ferrarimanf355 · « **Reply #166 on:** January 04, 2009, 01:39:07 AM »

Quote from: demi on January 04, 2009, 12:10:25 AM

You honestly think Guilty Gear is not fun?

No? I can understand if you suck and need something simple like Super Smash Brothers...

This reminds me, I really need to play BlazBlue and see what's up. Gotta go to the LAN center that has it tomorrow...

Bloodwake · « **Reply #167 on:** January 06, 2009, 03:56:53 PM »

I still don't understand the GTAIV hate, but I did buy Saints Row 2, so maybe I will soon.

However, fuck the Wii and every "game" that's come out for it. It pisses me off to work at GameStop and see the flashware games fly off the shelves.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #168 on:** January 06, 2009, 04:13:44 PM »

Guilty Gear is fucking awesome.

tiesto · « **Reply #169 on:** January 06, 2009, 04:17:34 PM »

How is that Battle Fantasia for 360? Worth playing if you like GG?

recursivelyenumerable · « **Reply #170 on:** January 06, 2009, 04:31:44 PM »

GTA4 sounds more appealing to me than the previous games, but I haven't played any of them.

brawndolicious · « **Reply #171 on:** January 06, 2009, 05:34:22 PM »

It was the only GTA that I actually liked. Even if it has problems, I can't punish it when it's overhauled most of it's major problems of the series. Decent list otherwise.

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #172 on:** January 06, 2009, 06:08:17 PM »

Guilty Gear is fine but they released a dozen or so GGXX iterations.

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