Author Topic: The Decemberists new album is either going to suck or rock (Read 5755 times)

TakingBackSunday · « **on:** January 22, 2009, 12:55:18 PM »

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Hazards of Love:

01 Prelude
02 The Hazards of Love 1 (The Prettiest Whistles Won't Wrestle the Thistles Undone)
03 A Bower Scene
04 Won't Want for Love (Margaret in the Taiga)
05 The Hazards of Love 2 (Wager All)
06 The Queen's Approach
07 Isn't It a Lovely Night?
08 The Wanting Comes in Waves / Repaid
09 An Interlude
10 The Rake's Song
11 The Abduction of Margaret
12 The Queen's Rebuke / The Crossing
13 Annan Water
14 Margaret in Captivity
15 The Hazards of Love 3 (Revenge!)
16 The Wanting Comes in Waves (Reprise)
17 The Hazards of Love 4 (The Drowned)

Rock opera

I'm the type of guy who really enjoys their story-telling (Who isn't a fan of Mariner's Revenge Song?), so this seems to be right up my ally. But at the same time, I wonder if its a bit too pretentious.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #1 on:** January 22, 2009, 12:56:48 PM »

You know what's pretentious? Your beard.

Shave it.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #2 on:** January 22, 2009, 12:58:28 PM »

The Tain was awesome, I'm hoping that's what they're going for with this concept album.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #3 on:** January 22, 2009, 12:59:05 PM »

The Tain was really cool, I'll give you that.

patrickula · « **Reply #4 on:** January 22, 2009, 01:03:27 PM »

Quote from: distantmantra on January 22, 2009, 12:58:28 PM

The Tain was awesome, I'm hoping that's what they're going for with this concept album.

Yup.

OptimoPeach · « **Reply #5 on:** January 22, 2009, 01:08:38 PM »

When is this due? I didn't even know they were working on a new album.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #6 on:** January 22, 2009, 01:11:51 PM »

March 24th

I hope they release it on vinyl, they're vinyl selection is pretty shit

Robo · « **Reply #7 on:** January 22, 2009, 01:14:26 PM »

My money is on SUCK HOBO BALLS.

Tauntaun · « **Reply #8 on:** January 22, 2009, 02:55:18 PM »

Isn't that pretty much any album that comes out? It'll either suck or rock?

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #9 on:** January 22, 2009, 03:39:16 PM »

Quote from: Tauntaun on January 22, 2009, 02:55:18 PM

Isn't that pretty much any album that comes out? It'll either suck or rock?

No, some sock

Bloodwake · « **Reply #10 on:** January 22, 2009, 04:00:41 PM »

I hope it doesn't suck. I loved The Crane Wife.

TVC15 · « **Reply #11 on:** January 22, 2009, 04:13:27 PM »

Quote from: Genghis Cohen on January 22, 2009, 03:40:59 PM

I'm going to say "suck."

I'll play the odds and say this. The Tain was the last really interesting thing they did for me.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #12 on:** January 22, 2009, 04:42:47 PM »

You didn't like The Crane Wife? I thought for some reason you did.

Besides that, though, I'd say this might be the closest to The Tain they've done since.

TVC15 · « **Reply #13 on:** January 22, 2009, 04:44:15 PM »

I liked The Crane Wife more than the one before it, but that's about it.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #14 on:** January 22, 2009, 04:46:37 PM »

Ah, I see. I don't know, I'm curious. I got a lot of mileage out of the Crane Wife, but I thought it was missing some of the epic stories that their previous stuff had. This looks to be somewhat of a return to that.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #15 on:** January 22, 2009, 04:50:49 PM »

Eh, I was only really bugged by the Island.

Bloodwake · « **Reply #16 on:** March 13, 2009, 02:13:54 PM »

Bump to say THIS HAS LEAKED, available at wherever things leak to.

I've only gotten to listen to part of the first track..... it's pretty damn awesome. More impressions later.

Tucah · « **Reply #17 on:** March 13, 2009, 04:06:43 PM »

Yeah, it leaked last weekend. Been listening to it a whole bunch since then, I like it. A lot.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #18 on:** March 13, 2009, 04:14:02 PM »

You know what would be awesome, and awesomely confusing to 99.3% of the people who own it? Sticking a new song off the album in Rock Band.

Kara · « **Reply #19 on:** March 13, 2009, 04:50:32 PM »

I'll take the money line: mediocre but heralded incessantly by certain minorities on the internet.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #20 on:** March 13, 2009, 05:08:17 PM »

Quote from: Karakand on March 13, 2009, 04:50:32 PM

I'll take the money line: mediocre but heralded incessantly by certain minorities on the internet.

That's like every album released in the past ten years.

Kara · « **Reply #21 on:** March 13, 2009, 05:15:52 PM »

That's why I labeled it the money line.

Robo · « **Reply #22 on:** March 13, 2009, 06:40:37 PM »

Don't care! I just want the new Peter Bjorn and John, goddamnit.

TVC15 · « **Reply #23 on:** March 13, 2009, 07:17:32 PM »

Quote from: Karakand on March 13, 2009, 04:50:32 PM

I'll take the money line: mediocre but heralded incessantly by certain minorities on the internet.

Ding ding ding. This is even more boring than their last two albums. To its credit, it is more rocky, like the Tain, and less twee-y, but there's nary a catchy tune to be had.

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #24 on:** March 13, 2009, 08:36:45 PM »

Quote from: Karakand on March 13, 2009, 04:50:32 PM

I'll take the money line: mediocre but heralded incessantly by certain minorities on the internet.

Hey, how about those Arctic Monkeys?

TVC15 · « **Reply #25 on:** March 13, 2009, 08:41:35 PM »

The success of the Arctic Monkeys is absolutely puzzling. One of the most puzzling mysteries in pop music this century.

drew · « **Reply #26 on:** March 13, 2009, 09:00:04 PM »

i liked their first album when it came out

i did a lot of coke and ritalin back then lol

Eric P · « **Reply #27 on:** March 13, 2009, 09:26:53 PM »

i like them both

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #28 on:** March 13, 2009, 09:39:26 PM »

I can't find a good leak of this anywhere, but I keep hearing conflicting things. Obviously everyone here hates it, but I hear through various twitter feeds that it's pretty good. Meh, I'l just wait till it officially releases.

Lafiel · « **Reply #29 on:** March 13, 2009, 09:47:21 PM »

I haven't listened to that band since 2005, is the crane wife any good?

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #30 on:** March 13, 2009, 09:58:18 PM »

Quote from: Lafiel on March 13, 2009, 09:47:21 PM

I haven't listened to that band since 2005, is the crane wife any good?

It's worth checking out. Some people will tell you it was bad, but a lot of other people will tell you it was a strong effort that doesn't compare to Picaresque or the earlier albums. It's good, I got a lot of milage out of it. Check it out.

Bloodwake · « **Reply #31 on:** March 13, 2009, 10:47:26 PM »

I listened to the full album. It's alright. I will probably like it more once I listen to it more. It definitely is a rock opera, although it isn't as varied as, for example, the Wall. A lot of the same melodies repeat more than once. The other frustrating thing is there's not really one track on the CD that you can play individually and get a lot out of.

TVC15 · « **Reply #32 on:** March 14, 2009, 07:46:25 AM »

Quote from: Green Shinobi on March 14, 2009, 07:18:39 AM

Saw them play live at Coachella one year. They pretty much sucked, so I've been turned off since then. I like The Infanta though.

They're consistently awesome in clubs. I wouldn't judge an act based on how they play at a stadium or a festival, especially if they are not accustomed to such shitty conditions.

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I'd probably like them more if some douchebag on this board hadn't said that they're better than Muse.

Um, they definitely are better than Muse? While they have failed to evolve their sound, they still have at least 2 great records of material, no matter how you cut it. Muse, not so much.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #33 on:** March 14, 2009, 01:10:00 PM »

Muse is pretty bad, I've only ever liked that one song in GH3.

I saw the Decemberists in a small bar environment in Columbus and they were fantastic. They played the Mariner's Revenge Song as the encore.

Bloodwake · « **Reply #34 on:** March 14, 2009, 04:35:52 PM »

Wasn't it just a few months ago that Cajole was talking positively about Muse and everyone was agreeing?

I know what happened. Stephanie Meyer said it was one of her favorite bands and inspirations. There goes that band's EB cred.

Kara · « **Reply #35 on:** March 14, 2009, 04:38:43 PM »

Muse isn't bad, just insipid and unmemorable.

Unless you're still on your prog training wheels or something I guess.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #36 on:** March 14, 2009, 05:10:29 PM »

Quote from: Bloodwake on March 14, 2009, 04:35:52 PM

Wasn't it just a few months ago that Cajole was talking positively about Muse and everyone was agreeing?

I know what happened. Stephanie Meyer said it was one of her favorite bands and inspirations. There goes that band's EB cred.

There's no way you're remembering that right. I'm sure cajole did praise Muse, but there's no way more than a handful of people agreed with him.

Greatness Gone · « **Reply #37 on:** March 14, 2009, 05:13:01 PM »

Muse is even worse than The Beatles, actually. The lead singer is ugly and what comes out of his mouth can't possibly be described as singing.

Bloodwake · « **Reply #38 on:** March 14, 2009, 05:23:39 PM »

Muse is okay, that's the point. They aren't my favorite, but they aren't ear cancer either.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #39 on:** March 14, 2009, 05:30:10 PM »

Quote from: Bloodwake on March 14, 2009, 05:23:39 PM

Muse is okay, that's the point. They aren't my favorite, but they aren't ear cancer either.

I don't think Muse is horrible, I just can't get into their music.

Kara · « **Reply #40 on:** March 14, 2009, 05:35:35 PM »

Quote from: Green Shinobi on March 14, 2009, 04:55:40 PM

Either way, how the fuck would Muse be considered prog?

They aren't wholly prog, but they incorporate enough prog into their style for it to be mentioned. If you'd never heard the real deal you might think they were interesting.

TVC15 · « **Reply #41 on:** March 14, 2009, 05:38:35 PM »

Quote from: Green Shinobi on March 14, 2009, 10:03:41 AM

Quote from: TVC 15 on March 14, 2009, 07:46:25 AM
Um, they definitely are better than Muse? While they have failed to evolve their sound, they still have at least 2 great records of material, no matter how you cut it. Muse, not so much.

Your mediocre ability to judge music is well documented. Matt Bellamy blows this band away just by himself. However, with your previous comment in mind, I will check out the Decemberists live again if I get a chance to see them in a smaller venue.

Aren't you one of those people that worship Led Zep, too? Don't you have a bong to be fantasizing over?

I like a lot of great music and a lot of crap, but I don't really feel the need to pump myself up by telling me that everything I listen to is superlative. It's okay to like big, over-produced crap. It's also okay to like shitty punk music that sounds like it was recorded in a septic tank. Not everything you appreciate has to fit some objective definition of greatness. It's okay. Breathe.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #42 on:** March 14, 2009, 05:40:18 PM »

I believe you used that same analogy with velvet underground's first album, lol

TVC15 · « **Reply #43 on:** March 14, 2009, 05:42:09 PM »

Quote from: BrandNew on March 14, 2009, 05:40:18 PM

I believe you used that same analogy with velvet underground's first album, lol

Which one? The led zep bong one or the septic tank one.

Not that I just keep writing zep because I am too lazy to recall the proper spelling for the rest of the word. Saturday mornings aren't for thinking.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #44 on:** March 14, 2009, 05:57:24 PM »

septic tank one

TVC15 · « **Reply #45 on:** March 14, 2009, 06:00:25 PM »

I use that one a lot because it really does fit some of the shittier sounding recordings of the 60s-80s. It sounds more like sound was embossed onto a disc of heavy ambient noise rather than being recorded onto a previously pristine source.

I think the septic tank analogy works better with white light/white heat, but it definitely also applies to some of the songs on the first album. Some of the songs on that are actually well recorded. Maybe half of them.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #46 on:** March 26, 2009, 08:22:48 PM »

I bought this album, not really listening to their discography, after hearing a few tracks. I dig it. That probably makes me uncool, but whatever.

recursivelyenumerable · « **Reply #47 on:** March 26, 2009, 08:26:52 PM »

I like Muse, based on the couple of songs I heard at a friend's friend's house.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #48 on:** March 26, 2009, 08:27:35 PM »

I also like Muse, but I'm not very pitchforkian when it comes to music, so my opinion is probably worthless when it comes to music.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #49 on:** March 26, 2009, 08:54:07 PM »

Quote from: Willco on March 26, 2009, 08:27:35 PM

I also like Muse, but I'm not very pitchforkian when it comes to music, so my opinion is probably worthless when it comes to music.

No, being pitchforkian is even worse now, apparently!

Meh. People like what they like. TVC likes some queer ass shit, but it's no biggie.

That said though, I can't really get into this. Willco, try out Her Majesty or Picaresque.

TVC15 · « **Reply #50 on:** March 26, 2009, 09:03:18 PM »

Queer ass shit? I'm not the one that likes Animal Collective, nor do I put my musical taste above anyone else's. I've been bored with the Decemberists for a while now, on record. I think it has to do with Colin Meloy's voice, which always just sounds the same

TVC15 · « **Reply #51 on:** March 26, 2009, 09:13:51 PM »

I think I'm going to start pirating Underworld albums this weekend, dcharlie. I need something new to get into and I've been on an electronic kick the past year and I really don't know how I've survived without hearing them.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #52 on:** March 26, 2009, 09:23:40 PM »

I probably will pick up Picaresque and Her Majesty sometime this weekend. I'm enjoying this new one, though.

Someone forced me to listen to Dan Deacon today (nobody here, thankfully). I wanted to hate it.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

but i kind of liked it

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Robo · « **Reply #53 on:** March 26, 2009, 09:37:05 PM »

I've been spending a lot of time on Pitchfork now that they have a lala player in every review. I can read their articles and know right away if they're completely full of shit or not.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #54 on:** March 26, 2009, 09:38:49 PM »

I pretty much hate Pitchfork and all that it stands for.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #55 on:** March 26, 2009, 09:41:18 PM »

Quote from: RoboJ on March 26, 2009, 09:37:05 PM

I've been spending a lot of time on Pitchfork now that they have a lala player in every review. I can read their articles and know right away if they're completely full of shit or not.

Yup, I love the player and do the same thing. Perfect excuse to visit their site

still waiting for their DOOM review. Should be interesting

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #56 on:** March 26, 2009, 09:59:03 PM »

Quote from: TVC 15 on March 26, 2009, 09:03:18 PM

Queer ass shit? I'm not the one that likes Animal Collective, nor do I put my musical taste above anyone else's. I've been bored with the Decemberists for a while now, on record. I think it has to do with Colin Meloy's voice, which always just sounds the same

I wasn't judging you. But if you're allowed to make fun of me liking Animal Collective, I can tease you just as much.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #57 on:** March 26, 2009, 10:02:56 PM »

Animal Collective is pretty bad.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #58 on:** March 26, 2009, 10:04:18 PM »

meh, different strokes

but you kinda liked dan deacon! That's kinda weird, didn't expect you to. Which album did you listen to, the new one or Spiderman of the Rings?

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #59 on:** March 26, 2009, 10:07:18 PM »

Spiderman of the Rings

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Author Topic: The Decemberists new album is either going to suck or rock (Read 5755 times)