Author Topic: Punch-Out Wii might actually be good (it has playable controls) (Read 24594 times)

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #180 on:** May 22, 2009, 08:39:47 PM »

The load times must be horrible, but I didn't know it was that easy, in that case, will get a Wii if it works on all wiis and I don't have to hardmod.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #181 on:** May 22, 2009, 08:52:13 PM »

Actually to be honest, load times are much quicker :p

For instance, I've heard Metroid Prime 3's door loads are nearly instant.

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #182 on:** May 22, 2009, 09:01:26 PM »

I will be a getting a Wii then :O. Whats this mod called?

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #183 on:** May 22, 2009, 09:10:06 PM »

Well the easiest thing to do these days is use the Hackmii Installer. You can find it pretty easily through a google search. You need a free SD card to put the files on, and then basically it's distinguished mentally-challenged fellow easy to install. With it, you install something called Bootmii, the Homebrew Channel (which you can use to search, find, and download applications and also launch them) and DVDx which enables your Wii to read DVDs. Through HBC you can get something called a USB Loader and...well, yeah, that's pretty much it.

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #184 on:** May 22, 2009, 09:13:32 PM »

So it's easier than hacking a PSP. Nice one Nintenfail.

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #185 on:** May 22, 2009, 09:20:12 PM »

Oh it requires Twilight Princess? I'm not buying that POS again.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #186 on:** May 22, 2009, 09:21:23 PM »

No it doesn't, the Twilight hack doesn't work with 4.0 Wii's. Use Bannerbomb, that's muuuuuch easier. All you do is put some boot file on the root of the SD, go to the SD card menu in Wii Options and BOOM: hacked wii.

and you fail, btw

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #187 on:** May 22, 2009, 09:23:04 PM »

I've never been a Zelda fan so I fail @ life.

And okay, I guess I want a Wii now for pirates. It plays everything? Including emulators?

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #188 on:** May 22, 2009, 09:25:51 PM »

As far as I know, USB Loaders work with pretty much everything minus a few odd games. Emulators too, you can actually get them straight from the homebrew browser.

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #189 on:** May 22, 2009, 09:27:23 PM »

Awesome, thanks <3.

Anyone wanna sell their Wii

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #190 on:** May 23, 2009, 12:07:18 AM »

Melee > Brawl

Trent Dole · « **Reply #191 on:** May 23, 2009, 01:01:44 AM »

Quote from: AdmiralViscen on May 23, 2009, 12:07:18 AM

Melee > Brawl

lol, no.

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #192 on:** May 23, 2009, 02:30:48 AM »

Melee is a fighting game, Brawl is a party fanservice game. I like both.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #193 on:** May 23, 2009, 02:36:57 AM »

theyre both fighting games and fanservice games, numbskull

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #194 on:** May 23, 2009, 02:42:06 AM »

Quote from: BrandNew on May 23, 2009, 02:36:57 AM

theyre both fighting games and fanservice games, numbskull

Hmmm, Brawl has barely any hitstun, severely limited combo potential, is eschewed towards defense. There are no beneficial approaches which results in "high level play" having two opponents projectile spamming, mix in some grab release exploits and thats your metagame. I still like it, but its not a fighting game anymore.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #195 on:** May 23, 2009, 02:51:11 AM »

Quote from: EmCeeGrammar on May 23, 2009, 02:42:06 AM

There are no beneficial approaches which results in "high level play" having two opponents projectile spamming, mix in some grab release exploits and thats your metagame.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #196 on:** May 23, 2009, 02:55:23 AM »

Quote from: EmCeeGrammar on May 23, 2009, 02:42:06 AM

Quote from: BrandNew on May 23, 2009, 02:36:57 AM
theyre both fighting games and fanservice games, numbskull

Hmmm, Brawl has barely any hitstun, severely limited combo potential, is eschewed towards defense. There are no beneficial approaches which results in "high level play" having two opponents projectile spamming, mix in some grab release exploits and thats your metagame. I still like it, but its not a fighting game anymore.

dude they're beat 'em up games. those terms are fanmade, not really developer-intended.

cool breeze · « **Reply #197 on:** May 23, 2009, 03:07:02 AM »

If Smash Bros is a fighting game, then so is Burnout.

Crushed · « **Reply #198 on:** May 23, 2009, 03:11:10 AM »

Quote from: EmCeeGrammar on May 23, 2009, 02:42:06 AM

Quote from: BrandNew on May 23, 2009, 02:36:57 AM
theyre both fighting games and fanservice games, numbskull

Hmmm, Brawl has barely any hitstun, severely limited combo potential, is eschewed towards defense. There are no beneficial approaches which results in "high level play" having two opponents projectile spamming, mix in some grab release exploits and thats your metagame. I still like it, but its not a fighting game anymore.

fucking christ shut up

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #199 on:** May 23, 2009, 03:24:15 AM »

Quote from: Crushed on May 23, 2009, 03:11:10 AM

Quote from: EmCeeGrammar on May 23, 2009, 02:42:06 AM
Quote from: BrandNew on May 23, 2009, 02:36:57 AM
theyre both fighting games and fanservice games, numbskull

Hmmm, Brawl has barely any hitstun, severely limited combo potential, is eschewed towards defense. There are no beneficial approaches which results in "high level play" having two opponents projectile spamming, mix in some grab release exploits and thats your metagame. I still like it, but its not a fighting game anymore.

fucking christ shut up

Dude, I whipped you on a regular basis when Smash online was popular for that whole THREE WEEKS. I know what I'm talking about. SERIOUS BUSINESS!

edit: "wah wah thunder spamming noob wah wsh"

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #200 on:** May 23, 2009, 11:50:00 AM »

Quote from: BrandNew on May 23, 2009, 02:36:57 AM

theyre both fighting games and fanservice games, numbskull

They are, but they're not the same. Kind of like the Ratchet games morph from 'platformer with shooting' to 'shooting with jumping.' And many of the Melee maneuvers were developer intended.

I'm not a super duper player or anything but no one in my old Melee group likes to play Brawl. Everything is too slow and floaty, you can't get any good combos going, etc. The character lineup is way better but that is it. We were playing Melee in my dorm right up to Brawl's release but we put Brawl away within a month. Even my fiance, who plays games but is far from hardcore, feels the difference and sticks with Melee. Brawl got GTA4'd

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #201 on:** May 23, 2009, 12:13:13 PM »

MANBABIES

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #202 on:** May 23, 2009, 12:49:30 PM »

neither are really fighting games tbh

archie4208 · « **Reply #203 on:** May 23, 2009, 01:01:39 PM »

Melee tournament = Fast paced and flashy as hell to watch.

Brawl tournament = :yawn Camp, camp, camp

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #204 on:** May 23, 2009, 01:29:50 PM »

they look exactly the same. you know what's worse than a fan of smash bros.? a fan of smash bros. who think an older game is better than the newer

(I like smash bros. too, don't worry)

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #205 on:** May 23, 2009, 01:35:50 PM »

Quote from: BrandNew on May 23, 2009, 01:29:50 PM

they look exactly the same. you know what's worse than a fan of smash bros.? a fan of smash bros. who think an older game is better than the newer

(I like smash bros. too, don't worry)

Dude no, watch some pro level matchup videos for each respective game.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #206 on:** May 23, 2009, 01:50:53 PM »

the very fact that there's pro level shit for these games just dumbfounds me and goes pretty much against the basis for both games

archie4208 · « **Reply #207 on:** May 23, 2009, 01:52:17 PM »

There is pro level Pokemon play.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #208 on:** May 23, 2009, 02:10:56 PM »

That's even worse

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #209 on:** May 23, 2009, 04:06:24 PM »

Quote from: BrandNew on May 23, 2009, 01:50:53 PM

the very fact that there's pro level shit for these games just dumbfounds me and goes pretty much against the basis for both games

Dude, I like brawl for what it is. But I can understand if players who were into the melee metagame despise brawl because it has a very shallow risk vs reward element.

Pro pokemon play is a joke though. Its only feasible with fanmade battle simulators.

Crushed · « **Reply #210 on:** May 23, 2009, 04:26:29 PM »

Quote from: BrandNew on May 23, 2009, 02:10:56 PM

That's even worse

http://www.smogon.com/dp/articles/

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #211 on:** May 23, 2009, 04:34:26 PM »

dear christ

Crushed · « **Reply #212 on:** May 23, 2009, 04:38:24 PM »

Quote from: BrandNew on May 23, 2009, 04:34:26 PM

dear christ

now you understand why drinky likes pokeymans

it is pure spreadsheet gaming jism

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #213 on:** May 23, 2009, 04:41:09 PM »

it stars animals called chimchar

CHIMCHAR

I like it too, but lol

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #214 on:** May 23, 2009, 05:00:34 PM »

but i don't like pokeymans

i just keep tricking myself into buying them

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #215 on:** May 23, 2009, 05:17:48 PM »

so much homo

recursivelyenumerable · « **Reply #216 on:** May 24, 2009, 01:16:13 AM »

I think Punch-Out is interesting in that

(1) it is a game that consists entirely of boss battles and
(2) the boss battles are reduced to the pure essence of boss-battle-ness. i.e. in most games there is some background mechanic that fills out the levels etc., but for bosses there is some special gimmick/pattern/etc. overlaid on the background mechanic, sometimes completely dominating it. Punch-Out basically dispenses with the background mechanics entirely

I do think this makes it worth something, in the way that anything that sort of embodies the Platonic form of a popular trope is worth something. also, great animation.

twerd · « **Reply #217 on:** May 24, 2009, 03:43:22 AM »

Evilbore sucks at threads related in anyway to Wii. What the fuck does SSBB have to do with anything?

Anyway, this game is great. It's old-school, which some non-gamers such as Prole may dislike.

Hollywood · « **Reply #218 on:** May 24, 2009, 04:21:40 AM »

Anyone ever remember there was a code in the original Punch-Out where you could make an entire new circuit? It was the same boxers, but you basically had almost the entire roster in one division.

135 792 468, press A+B+Select on the last number. Another World Circuit

This game is awesome just because I could go back and play today and probably find some new type of KO I've never did before. Just looking at youtube, I had no clue Super Macho Man was vulnerable to body blows. I have no clue how this dude hit him with like 7 uppercuts in one round either, he would always dodge me after just one.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #219 on:** May 24, 2009, 09:33:31 AM »

Quote from: twerd on May 24, 2009, 03:43:22 AM

Evilbore sucks at threads related in anyway to Wii. What the fuck does SSBB have to do with anything?

Anyway, this game is great. It's old-school, which some non-gamers such as Prole may dislike.

Thread derails at EB are exclusive to Nintendo threads

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #220 on:** May 24, 2009, 07:22:41 PM »

So i've been looking into the hacking of wii and came across this on gay aging feggits (Lolololol)

http://games.stumpnet.net/homebrew/

but anytime you click a firmeware (for example 4.0) it says sucks to be you.

Anyone know a dumbass guide for dumbasses (although I hardmodded a PSP :/)

demi · « **Reply #221 on:** May 24, 2009, 07:40:52 PM »

that's also outdated because you can hack 4.0 now. keep looking, i'm sure you'll figure it out! must be hard to not have it handed to you on a silver platter

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #222 on:** May 24, 2009, 07:43:11 PM »

It is hard, seeming that all the women I make love to me are handed on a bronze platter :'(

SantaC · « **Reply #223 on:** May 24, 2009, 08:01:09 PM »

Quote from: BrandNew on May 23, 2009, 12:49:30 PM

neither are really fighting games tbh

all nintendo games are party games

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #224 on:** May 24, 2009, 08:14:08 PM »

no they aren't. All multiplayer Nintendo games are.

twerd · « **Reply #225 on:** May 24, 2009, 11:00:22 PM »

Quote from: SantaC on May 24, 2009, 08:01:09 PM

Quote from: BrandNew on May 23, 2009, 12:49:30 PM
neither are really fighting games tbh

all nintendo games are party games

METROID PRIME PARTIEZ!!!1

LEGEND OF ZELDA: BOARD GAMEZZ!!1

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #226 on:** May 27, 2009, 03:36:51 AM »

Finished the game tonight. That means FINISHED. After beating Sandman in Title Defense the game goes into "Little Mac's Last Stand" where you fight a random opponent until you lose three times. DK shows up second and was my first loss. His victory taunt is carrying Mac out of the ring slung over his shoulder aka pauline. I'm assuming gorilla rape follows. Proceeded to lose to King Hippo and Sandman and thats the end. One final cutscene of Doc touring a Mac tribute museum followed by the credits. After this point the profile is labeled as retired and Career Mode is locked down permanently. Replay matches are limited to Exhibition Mode, whereas Donkey Kong is also unlocked.

The problem here is that there's an unlockable for going through 10 opponents in Last Stand, but I would have to start a new profile and work my way from the very start of contender to attempt it again. At least I can still try to get the headgear accessory through Exhibition matches after losing 100 times
:/

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #227 on:** May 27, 2009, 11:41:40 AM »

What? that is fucking distinguished mentally-challenged.

Crushed · « **Reply #228 on:** May 27, 2009, 12:57:47 PM »

game owns

haters annihilated...

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #229 on:** May 27, 2009, 01:00:24 PM »

Yeah I played it yesterday at Gamestop. So awesome. Will be getting a Wii for this and hacking the fuck out of it.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #230 on:** May 27, 2009, 01:07:23 PM »

Do all GS's have demos? I must try this

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #231 on:** May 27, 2009, 01:08:48 PM »

Dunno, it wasn't a demo though, my gamespot had the actual game in there :O

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #232 on:** May 27, 2009, 01:10:42 PM »

I haven't been to GS in a while, but for Wii demo stations they are usually the full game. I remember trying Metroid Prime 3 there once and there was a file already 30 percent through the game.

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #233 on:** May 28, 2009, 02:23:56 PM »

Bumping this as im getting my wii wii soon because my birfdays on sunday.

What games do you guys reccomend? I'm planning on getting some at the B2G1 Free Used event this weekend at Gamestop. I plan on getting:

Super Mario Galaxy
Smash Brothers
Punch Out

and that's all I can think of. I used to have a wii (Pre Mario Galaxy) so anything post Galaxy would be boss on reccomendations <3.

Also, what do I need for this hack, equip wise? just the SD card?

Thanks <3

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #234 on:** May 28, 2009, 02:57:20 PM »

Pro Evolution Soccer- high learning curve but probably the best comprehensive sports game on the console. By far the best game of footie this gen.

Boom blox- the sequel is out, but you can pick up the original for 30. Simple but fun.

Klonoa- Short game, but it gets the job done as far as platforming goes

Madworld- opinions are divided, but I enjoyed this alot. Its a score attack beat em up with brutal violence.

Blast Works- Katamari+shmup+lbp level editor

Excitebots- I played it so much I burned out for now, but a very insane racing game. If you can accept goofy beast wars aesthetics I don't see how its possible not to enjoy this.

House of the dead Overkill- Very rough and sometimes glitchy, but its a grindhouse lightgun game!

If you skipped on jungle beat for gcn, I'd recommend the wii version. Much better controls. Awesome platformer.

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #235 on:** May 28, 2009, 03:02:17 PM »

I forgot about Klonoa :O

Thanks for the recs. How's New play control Mario Tennis?

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #236 on:** May 28, 2009, 04:21:29 PM »

Avoid, it's shit-tay. The other NPC games, though, are ace, especially Pikmin.

Barry Egan · « **Reply #237 on:** May 28, 2009, 04:46:32 PM »

Quote from: EmCeeGrammar on May 28, 2009, 02:57:20 PM

Pro Evolution Soccer- high learning curve but probably the best comprehensive sports game on the console. By far the best game of footie this gen.

Boom blox- the sequel is out, but you can pick up the original for 30. Simple but fun.

Klonoa- Short game, but it gets the job done as far as platforming goes

Madworld- opinions are divided, but I enjoyed this alot. Its a score attack beat em up with brutal violence.

Blast Works- Katamari+shmup+lbp level editor

Excitebots- I played it so much I burned out for now, but a very insane racing game. If you can accept goofy beast wars aesthetics I don't see how its possible not to enjoy this.

House of the dead Overkill- Very rough and sometimes glitchy, but its a grindhouse lightgun game!

If you skipped on jungle beat for gcn, I'd recommend the wii version. Much better controls. Awesome platformer.

Wow. Look at all those awesome games.

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #238 on:** May 28, 2009, 05:10:45 PM »

Asshole

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #239 on:** May 28, 2009, 05:19:36 PM »

Quote from: Chipopo on May 28, 2009, 04:46:32 PM

Quote from: EmCeeGrammar on May 28, 2009, 02:57:20 PM
Pro Evolution Soccer- high learning curve but probably the best comprehensive sports game on the console. By far the best game of footie this gen.

Boom blox- the sequel is out, but you can pick up the original for 30. Simple but fun.

Klonoa- Short game, but it gets the job done as far as platforming goes

Madworld- opinions are divided, but I enjoyed this alot. Its a score attack beat em up with brutal violence.

Blast Works- Katamari+shmup+lbp level editor

Excitebots- I played it so much I burned out for now, but a very insane racing game. If you can accept goofy beast wars aesthetics I don't see how its possible not to enjoy this.

House of the dead Overkill- Very rough and sometimes glitchy, but its a grindhouse lightgun game!

If you skipped on jungle beat for gcn, I'd recommend the wii version. Much better controls. Awesome platformer.

Wow. Look at all those awesome games.

they are good games, for the most part

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Author Topic: Punch-Out Wii might actually be good (it has playable controls) (Read 24594 times)