Author Topic: So another MGS game.... (Read 7053 times)

Lafiel · « **Reply #60 on:** March 26, 2009, 06:13:00 PM »

Quote from: Himuro on March 26, 2009, 06:11:23 PM

Quote from: Bebpo on March 26, 2009, 06:09:26 PM
Quote from: Himuro on March 26, 2009, 06:08:05 PM
RE5 doesn't need that though.

MGS4 doesn't need to be able to DUCK when in a locker, either.

Yes it does. I could do it in MGS2 and 3. Even Twin Snakes lets you do it.

Are they even lockers in MGS 4?

i forgot.

Positive Touch · « **Reply #61 on:** March 26, 2009, 06:13:34 PM »

there's like two lockers in the game ffs

Veidt · « **Reply #62 on:** March 26, 2009, 06:15:01 PM »

I liked MGS4. But I seriously fell asleep at the beginning of ACT 5. When the

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Outer Haven shows up- from there to when snake gets into Outer Haven, I was out.

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But then again, I'd been playing the game for 12 hours straight by then : P

Himu · « **Reply #63 on:** March 26, 2009, 06:15:01 PM »

[laugh]

cool breeze · « **Reply #64 on:** March 26, 2009, 06:19:56 PM »

Even though I really did liked MGS4, replaying it in its entirety can get boring. I've replayed Act 1 and 2 several times; the other 3 acts were entertaining at first but don't really hold up in multiple playthroughs.

I'm all for them making another MGS game with barely a story and pretty much Act 1 and 2 expanded into a full game. They could just make something where I play as Meryl and control her squad through various missions like SWAT 4 super-lite or something.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #65 on:** March 26, 2009, 06:21:39 PM »

I'm confused at the thread title... MGS "game"?

Veidt · « **Reply #66 on:** March 26, 2009, 06:22:32 PM »

This thread is getting dangerous now.

TVC15 · « **Reply #67 on:** March 26, 2009, 06:27:52 PM »

Quote from: The Card Cheat on March 26, 2009, 06:21:39 PM

I'm confused at the thread title... MGS "game"?

Has anyone timed the cutscenes in MGS4? Some random site I googled up said 9.5 hours, but I want to know if there's a definitive number.

Bebpo · « **Reply #68 on:** March 26, 2009, 06:29:33 PM »

Quote from: TVC 15 on March 26, 2009, 06:27:52 PM

Quote from: The Card Cheat on March 26, 2009, 06:21:39 PM
I'm confused at the thread title... MGS "game"?

Has anyone timed the cutscenes in MGS4? Some random site I googled up said 9.5 hours, but I want to know if there's a definitive number.

It's definitely at least 50% of the total game length, which is fucking RIDICULOUS. The other MGS games had a lot of cutscenes but they also had a lot of gameplay.

Diunx · « **Reply #69 on:** March 26, 2009, 06:32:05 PM »

Quote from: TVC 15 on March 26, 2009, 06:27:52 PM

Quote from: The Card Cheat on March 26, 2009, 06:21:39 PM
I'm confused at the thread title... MGS "game"?

Has anyone timed the cutscenes in MGS4? Some random site I googled up said 9.5 hours, but I want to know if there's a definitive number.

Its like 10 hours, act 5 alone is like 3 hours.

Trent Dole · « **Reply #70 on:** March 26, 2009, 06:49:51 PM »

lol, mgs.

Lafiel · « **Reply #71 on:** March 26, 2009, 07:12:26 PM »

Quote from: Bebpo on March 26, 2009, 06:29:33 PM

Quote from: TVC 15 on March 26, 2009, 06:27:52 PM
Quote from: The Card Cheat on March 26, 2009, 06:21:39 PM
I'm confused at the thread title... MGS "game"?

Has anyone timed the cutscenes in MGS4? Some random site I googled up said 9.5 hours, but I want to know if there's a definitive number.

It's definitely at least 50% of the total game length, which is fucking RIDICULOUS. The other MGS games had a lot of cutscenes but they also had a lot of gameplay.

Eh? MGS 4 has way more actual gameplay then the first two MGS games, and the first two MGS games can only be finished in only 6-10 hours IIRC. (and at least a 1/3 of that length is spent watching cutscenes and codec conversations).

TVC15 · « **Reply #72 on:** March 26, 2009, 07:16:11 PM »

I dunno. I had 20ish hour playtimes on MGS2-4, and 4 definitely felt the shortest.

I think MGS1 I finished more quickly, and it definitely is cutscene heavy, but I don't remember it feeling as bad as MGS4. I could be wrong. It's been years. There may have been more cutscenes, but I don't think they were as long at all.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #73 on:** March 26, 2009, 07:25:18 PM »

i hope this game comes out and is shit and we never hear of kojima again. so fucking sick of him

cool breeze · « **Reply #74 on:** March 26, 2009, 07:26:21 PM »

MGS4 felt shorter because it constantly had you moving from place to place fairly quickly and you never really got the sense that you were familiar with that location. MGS1 was all really in one location, MGS2 was in two locations that looked very similar and MGS3 was really in one area that all had the same look going on. MGS4 had 5 locations that all looked totally different from the one before it, the trade off being that you spend only a bit of time in each one.

Lafiel · « **Reply #75 on:** March 26, 2009, 07:28:53 PM »

Quote from: TVC 15 on March 26, 2009, 07:16:11 PM

I dunno. I had 20ish hour playtimes on MGS2-4, and 4 definitely felt the shortest.

I think MGS1 I finished more quickly, and it definitely is cutscene heavy, but I don't remember it feeling as bad as MGS4. I could be wrong. It's been years. There may have been more cutscenes, but I don't think they were as long at all.

I had at least 20ish hours of playtime on MGS 3-4, but only 6-10 on MGS 1-2.
Obviously MGS 1-2 felt the shortest for me, both those games only took me 1-3 days to finish, while both MGS 3 & 4 took a week.
Based on my playtime i reckon i spent at least 12 hours playing MGS 4, and 9 watching cutscenes, 12 hours of gameplay for a MGS game is pretty good imo, but obviously not as well-paced as MGS 3 which had like 15 hours of gameplay and 5 hours of cutscenes.

bork · « **Reply #76 on:** March 26, 2009, 07:31:35 PM »

MGS1- Awesome, enjoyed it.
MGS2- Shortest game ever? You play as Snake on this tanker, then it ends and you get this long bonus game where you play as a shemale. I couldn't get into it.
MGS3- Awesome, enjoyed it.
MGS4- Same kind of feeling as MGS2. Maybe I'll stick with the odd-numbered ones only. I like MGO so it's not a total loss.
Portable Ops- Hindered by controls, but still kinda fun. I need to beat it one day.
MGS GBC/Ghost Babel- Awesome, kicks the shit out of MGS2

There's already too many remakes out there as it is, but I wouldn't mind remakes of the original Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2. They don't even have to be all big-budget; PSP or even DS versions (if kept 2D with sprites) would be fine.

Quote from: Himuro on March 26, 2009, 05:46:35 PM

Is there a way to play MGS4 with classic MGS controls? Because MGS4's suck.

I have had the game since like December and have not played it for more than an hour.

I've had it since launch and have barely played it either, but a lot of that is due to the story and over-abundance of cut-scenes, which I don't care for. The controls, though? The game plays fucking awesomely; what are you on? Nobody's been complaining about the game play, but rather the lack thereof.

Diunx · « **Reply #77 on:** March 26, 2009, 07:52:39 PM »

Quote from: pilonv1 on March 26, 2009, 07:25:18 PM

i hope this game comes out and is shit and we never hear of kojima again. so fucking sick of him

FUCK YOU!

WrikaWrek · « **Reply #78 on:** March 26, 2009, 07:52:44 PM »

By the way, Raiden Cyborg in MGS4 sucked even bigger dicks than bitch Raiden in MGS2. Seriously, only a nerdy, dorky, taco, japafag, fat ass bitch would like his shit in MGS4.

And he stopped a submarine the size of a city. Cmon. The more you think about MGS4, the shittier it gets.

Diunx · « **Reply #79 on:** March 26, 2009, 07:55:10 PM »

Fuck you too Wrika.

TVC15 · « **Reply #80 on:** March 26, 2009, 08:02:55 PM »

Quote from: WrikaWrek on March 26, 2009, 07:52:44 PM

By the way, Raiden Cyborg in MGS4 sucked even bigger dicks than bitch Raiden in MGS2. Seriously, only a nerdy, dorky, distinguished effete fellow, japafag, fat ass bitch would like his shit in MGS4.

Yeah. Raiden in MGS4 was totally Poochy.

Positive Touch · « **Reply #81 on:** March 26, 2009, 08:20:39 PM »

the making of dvd said mgs4 had eight and a half hours of cutscenes, which is way more than any mgs.

actually now that i think about it, how many movie trilogies are under 8 1/2 hours?

WrikaWrek · « **Reply #82 on:** March 26, 2009, 09:00:27 PM »

It just doesn't make any sense...

The citySubmarine was powering through the harbor, so it doesn't take a fucking genius, to see that even if you were strong enough to not bend over and get a submarine rammed up your ass, fact is, the submarine wouldn't stop at you, because you ARE IN THE FUCKING HARBOR, and unless the rock in that spot of the harbor was made of adamantium, it wouldn't make any sense for the rock to not brake, like the rest of the harbor.

So, even when you look at it from a Comic Book nerd wearing Batman pajamas point of view, it still doesn't make a lick of sense. Even if Raiden had the strength!!!

So who was the genius that looked at the story board and thought "Wait, that could work..." What!?

TVC15 · « **Reply #83 on:** March 26, 2009, 09:06:28 PM »

I have been tempted several times to rebuy MGS4 for those first two acts.

WrikaWrek · « **Reply #84 on:** March 26, 2009, 09:13:27 PM »

MGS4 getting goty at several places only means that there's a ton of hardcore fanboys of MGS that will eat it up no matter what, and they are one vocal bunch.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #85 on:** March 26, 2009, 11:02:58 PM »

The mount rushmore moment will be infamous forever but don't forget about the mouth sword.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #86 on:** March 26, 2009, 11:10:07 PM »

Quote from: Genghis Cohen on March 26, 2009, 05:38:19 PM

Kojima had nothing to do with MGS staying on the ps3.

staying?

Diunx · « **Reply #87 on:** March 26, 2009, 11:30:38 PM »

Quote from: Jinfash on March 26, 2009, 11:18:12 PM

If the new game is gonna be centered around Raiden, then get ready for Matrix Reloaded, Advent Children & DMC3 level of ridiculous. Like 10x MGS4's.

Whether that's bad or not depends on your taste, though I have to say, if that still makes you feel tingly inside then you're lame and I don't wanna be your friend anymore.

DMC3 was awesome.

Positive Touch · « **Reply #88 on:** March 26, 2009, 11:34:45 PM »

Quote from: Jinfash on March 26, 2009, 11:19:47 PM

pics

YESSSS I HOPE THEY BRING ROSE BACK ON THE CODEC

MCD · « **Reply #89 on:** March 26, 2009, 11:42:39 PM »

is that...a gentleman's cane?

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #90 on:** March 26, 2009, 11:59:29 PM »

MGS Brain Training

drohne · « **Reply #91 on:** March 27, 2009, 12:50:32 AM »

if they do another metal gear, i'd rather see them drop all that mgs plot baggage entirely. mgs4 kind of foundered under it. start fresh pls

but i'm not ready to conclude that it'll star raiden. these first indications from kp are usually misleading. deliberately so

Vizzys · « **Reply #92 on:** March 27, 2009, 12:57:24 AM »

first 20% raiden, suprise 80% of the game you are snake

Lafiel · « **Reply #93 on:** March 27, 2009, 01:10:31 AM »

I rather play as a another cyborg ninja, raiden is a pretty lame character, despite his AWESOME profession.

cool breeze · « **Reply #94 on:** March 27, 2009, 01:16:12 AM »

they have so much open room even within the story to make a new game about Snake, Raiden, Big Boss, The Boss, etc. And all that stuff could fit into the canon storyline and not just an offshoot like the ACID games.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #95 on:** March 27, 2009, 01:24:25 AM »

I'll like to see a youne clone of Snake with all his memories intact or some crap like that. It was kinda sad the way Snake went out as a loveless old fart.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #96 on:** March 27, 2009, 01:27:55 AM »

Quote from: dcharlie on March 27, 2009, 01:25:13 AM

snake is told by medical types that they found a cure for his aging, given new mission, people pick him up , life as normal, putta putta putta machine gun sneaky death, Raiden is the bad guy for some reason, Naomi isn't really dead, drebin is a robot, and the REAL bad guy pulling the strings is an old and bitter REAL snake who isn't cured. You are a clone, you are the first experiment to proove that the ultimate snake can be reproduced at will. War economy. Patroits shoot nukes at moon to kill cheese monsters. 5 hour cutscenes. Game of the year. Tie in to game produced by best looking female in the industry at the time.

woah...future slip.

That sounds entirely plausible as the plot for the next MGS. Funny how it only took you less than a minute to come up with a Kojima plot.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #97 on:** March 27, 2009, 01:34:27 AM »

The tagline for the MGS5 commercial, "Snake, if you won't be a prisoner of science, then go, embrace eternity!"

Is that nonsensical enough for MGS?

trippingmartian · « **Reply #98 on:** March 27, 2009, 01:53:39 AM »

MGS is great but the story peaked with MGS1 and the stealth mechanics have been bested by other franchises. Kojima has so much talent, it really is a shame to see him waste it all on this and Boktai. Enough with the sequels already.

Positive Touch · « **Reply #99 on:** March 27, 2009, 03:18:53 AM »

Quote from: trippingmartian on March 27, 2009, 01:53:39 AM

Kojima has so much talent, it really is a shame to see him waste it all on this and Boktai.

Boktai isn't a waste you scum

Veidt · « **Reply #100 on:** March 27, 2009, 10:13:03 AM »

Right, so as a PS360 owner I could help but lol over the questions at GT
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/47299.html

Paraphrasing "PS3 isn't selling it's in 3rd place in America ( because that's the only thing matters), will you still keep it exclusive?"

What the hell, once. Just once, I want them to actually ask him about future games and what kind of games he's looking to do. Stop trying to get hits : (

dark1x · « **Reply #101 on:** March 27, 2009, 10:47:35 AM »

Veidt · « **Reply #102 on:** March 27, 2009, 11:28:53 AM »

Is that real?

WrikaWrek · « **Reply #103 on:** March 27, 2009, 11:39:14 AM »

It's real.

bud · « **Reply #104 on:** March 27, 2009, 11:57:11 AM »

Quote from: dark1x on March 27, 2009, 10:47:35 AM

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recursivelyenumerable · « **Reply #105 on:** March 27, 2009, 01:44:18 PM »

Yeah, I don't see why they can't just drop continuity altogether and start over with a totally new character, backstory, etc. Final Fantasy does it every time and still sells

recursivelyenumerable · « **Reply #106 on:** March 27, 2009, 01:47:52 PM »

Wow, Kojima has pretty bad skin. Maybe even worse than mine. of course he's a lot older as well, my skin will probably be worse than his by the time I'm that old

TVC15 · « **Reply #107 on:** March 27, 2009, 05:09:34 PM »

Quote from: dark1x on March 27, 2009, 10:47:35 AM

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The leering face in the third panel makes it. Reminds me of

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #108 on:** March 27, 2009, 05:23:13 PM »

A whole new take on MGS is actually a pretty good idea. I'd dig a more gritty, realistic take on MGS. Konami could do what Marvel Comics did and create an Ultimate version of Solid Snake. He would be like a more bad-ass version of Sam Fisher.

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Author Topic: So another MGS game.... (Read 7053 times)