What are you playing?

[brob]

Finally beat 5-A and 5-B (which was just a boss fight for some reason) in Shinobi. They have got to be kidding with 6-A. They KNOW the camera is shit, so here jump down these shafts, because blind jumps are fun. I mad.

have u tried not being a scrublord?

[Rufus]

>:C *heavy breathing*

[Positive Touch]

yeah next time I boot up dd I'm bumping it down to normal. don't have a problem with super hard challenges, but in a game about exploration (and without many checkpoints) that's just way too frustrating and tedious.

and ruzbeh, you shoulda started with dmc3. 1 is still great but its beginnings as a resident evil are really apparent and it can feel very limited since it was the first of its kind. it's still a great game tho.

[I'm a Puppy!]

I didn't find DMC1 all that bad actually. 

[Positive Touch]

the gameplay is top-notch, even with its small movelist and stiff jumps. but the item hunts and boss and level recycling make it a 9/10 instead of a 10/10 for me.

[I'm a Puppy!]

Yeah, so I decided to go back to the bitter black isle again and got to a room and suddenly Death shows up and starts just killing everyone.
I "OH SHIT!"-ed right out of there.

[Himu]

Damn... DmC has not aged well. I got into Chrono Trigger much easier and that game is also much older. I'm guessing if I'm going to replay old games maybe I should stick to 2D goodness instead of crappy early 3D of the PS2 era...

DmC has an awful intro. Lots of pointless story. Nice to know it's not a completely modern trend to talk about a bunch of bullshit that's barely relevant to the game.

Really weird, sluggish controls, it's almost laggy. Dante has a weird Guild Wars 2-like running animation, very slow and sluggish. Just, yuck. I'm not sure if this shit is playable.

Spent like 10 minutes on DmC then started messing around in GT3 for like 2 hours straight.

Good god.

[chronovore]

I ended up doubling down on Metal Slug, and bought the iOS collection for the rare moments my son isn’t using my iPad, and yesterday bagged the PSP Metal Slug Collection for ¥1700 at a nearby game shop. So far the game is much easier to control and succeed on PSP despite the smaller screen.

World Series of Poker is degenerating into an utter madhouse of BINGO players. I mean, seriously, every table I’ve been at for the past week has had at least one ALL IN challenger. If I was even a tad smarter, I’d delete it, forego the last three Achievements, and move on to less frustrating fare. Here’s hoping that I wise up.

World of Tanks (PC) introduced a racing mode which looks plenty crazy and fun.


Unfortunately, WASD controls are not my thing in a tank, and I found out that playing a grind game on two platforms is a fools gambit.

[chronovore]

Also started playing Asassisinsinsnsnss Creed Liberation HD, which is $5 on XBL Marketplace Gold sale this week.

So far: Yep, this is Assassin’s Creed. This time I’m in a skirt.

I like the idea that different personas have different abilities. Is that a first in this game, for this series?

[Himu]

Chrono Trigger is literally a 20 hour game. It got its reputation from being short enough to replay to get the multiple endings through its highly inventive new game + mode.

Ruzbeh has the worst game taste I have ever seen on the bore.

[demi]

Lol @ Ruzbeh actually sticking to a game

Someone needs a visit to the calming room

[Mr. Nobody]

Been at the start of Chapter 8 on Layton vs. Wright for the last few days and I just....

I can barely get myself motivated to finish off these last 3 chapters because this shit drains me everytime I play it. I couldn't be less interested in the plot and the characters just drone on and on about absolutely nothing. Even the court sections are tedious (testimonies with multiple witnesses?  ). This game would be going into the bushes but since I'm so close to the end, I might as well finish it.

[Positive Touch]

assuming it was ever a good game to begin with...?

son, shut the fuck up

[I'm a Puppy!]

So you can change classes freely... but what class you level up determines stat growth...

Oh the noes, I am paralyzed by the min-maxy RPG-stats OCD...

Haven't quite given up on Hard Mode.  Have been playing as Fighter.  Got to the capital about L18.

Wow. L18. On normal I think I made it there at like level 9.
The job classes don't tell you what stats go up or down. But at least the equipment stuff does.

[Cheddahz]

Lately, I've just been killing time trials in Forza Horizon 2 (by the way, the game is dope)

[Cerveza mas fina]

Infamous First Light reminds me of Crackdown, but the jumping in Crackdown was better.

Game is so beautiful, damn damn damn.

[Rufus]

GT, at least until GT4, is made to and in my opinion meant to be played with the dpad and face buttons. Not even joking.

[chronovore]

I just fired up Vice City. Goddamn I've missed this game. I've missed simple games like this. I love how you can do whatever the fuck you want the moment you start the game instead of having to watch a million cutscenes. It might start with a cutscene, but it's all skippable.

Don't think I'll play it on PS2 though. The framerate is just awful. I'll see what I PC mods I can find. A simple radio mod would be helpful because all that music and talk radio is completely played out for me.

I found a torrent of the Liberty City Stories radio stations; they are single MP3 files for each station, not random mixes. There’s also a huge torrent out there for the GTA IV radio stations, even broken down into per-channel station-identifications, so you can go to town on getting that to play randomly during your session.

[Damian79]

I am playing Diablo 3 and Strife, strife is like a less aggro version of DoTA and LoL.

[Himu]

GTAV is loads of fun. I'll fire it up on a rainy day and do whatever. I especially enjoy hiking and exploring new places. There's a lot of places to hike and get randomly mauled by mountain lions. Climbing all the nature is a thrill too. V's map is also 100x better than VC's so that helps as well. GTAV has a slow beginning as you unlock all the characters, but you also have free reign and can do anything and go anywhere as soon as you can explore Los Santos, so there's a trade off considering in pre-V GTA you couldn't explore areas without getting wanted or those areas like in the case of VC are locked period.

I will agree that the content doesn't match the games visuals and I've said the same thing. I feel like GTA should be stylized. If they want to make still realistic looking, something like Killer 7 or KillerIsDead or even The Walking Dead aesthetic would go a long way. Given that the art for GTA is as iconic as the game, I don't see why not, and it could lead to a better artistic (lol) vision.

[Rufus]

The face buttons don't allow as much control as with the analog sticks. Try it with all assists off, including that annoying ASM and TC shit whatever that is, it's enabled with every new car you get, have to disable it every time. It's much more fun that way.

I did play that way and finished everything but the endurance races (real time, fuck that). The sim level in GT4 was below its contemporary, Enthusia. Understeer on everything, reduced oversteer, impacts barely upset your cars' balance, etc. Everything is less dramatic so things don't go catastrophically wrong the moment you make a small mistake. Just enough sim to make the cars feel appreciably different from each other, but not enough to let you spin your wheels on the starting line. GT is all about making it feel realistic when you're trying to drive properly, but not when you're screwing up. Beating the SLR time challenge on the Nürburg Ring felt awesome despite that.

Also, the PS2 buttons are pressure sensitive and GT4 took advantage of that. It even had an indicator in the HUD for how hard you were pressing the buttons. GT3 might have as well. I did play GT and GT2 with dpad and buttons as well though.

[Himu]

Places to start:

- Shinobi
- kunoichi
- Onimusha 1 and 2
- God hand
- God of war 2
- sky gunner
- contra: shattered soldier
- ratchet: up your arsenal
- way of the samurai
- yakuza 1 and 2
- Maximo
- the red star (note this is pretty average but fun)
- the Warriors
- rygar
- blood will tell
- RAD
- taito legends 2

[magus]

chrono trigger

complicated

 

[Himu]

chrono trigger

complicated

 

I know right

[Rufus]

So I dug up my copy of GT4 and Enthusia again. Gonna toy around with each a little bit. I also stumbled upon Ferrari F355, which might actually win the sim cup among these three.
One thing to note right off the bat with GT4: the horrid load times. Geebus.

[Himu]

God of War 2 trashes God of War 1. You should also play DMC3. It is the best 3d action game on the system. Shame you don't have an Xbox or I'd suggest ninja Gaiden black. Honestly, though ps2 had more action games I preferred xbox's exclusives (ngb, gunvalkyrie, otogi, riddick, breakdown;etc) more than ps2's.

Ninja Gaiden black is also the best 3d action game of all time. Its only rivals are NG2 (for Xbox 360 not puny puny PS3 version) and DMC3.

[magus]

chrono trigger

complicated

 

I know right

I said "the latter" in that sentence, which means I was referring to FFVII. Learn2read brehs. That shit you put in those slots I think were really weird and it was too unwieldy, IMO. Can't remember the name.

Chrono Trigger's battle system seemed pretty straight forward in contrast, and just as fun, if not moreso.

Btw Himu I have already tried God of War 1, I thought it was kinda meh. Not so sure about trying GoW2.

that's even fucking worse! the only way to play something more simple than FF7 is to go back to the original dragon quest

and the materia system is literaly just equipping magic on your guys, that's it, there is no fucking secret to it... your brain would probably implode if you had to play something like resonance of fate

[Himu]

Yeah that's even worse, dude. Materia is baysuckly, take material, put in slot. If you want the entire party to receive benefits equip and all materia in a vacant attached slot.

[The Legend of Sunblade]

FF7 even forces a slow tutorial on you for you to understand how to use materia early in the game. 

[Himu]

You can skip that shit. Ruzbeh I understood materia when I was fucking 12.

[chronovore]

Having played a little Vice City and watching some GTA 5 youtube videos... GTA 5 looks so fucking weird. It's looks so realistic but the gameplay is obviously completely ridiculous and anything but realistic. It's so jarring. Vice City with its primitive 3D has an (unintentional?) cartoony look and the visuals suit the action more. GTA 5 looks weird, and sadly, anything but fun.

I completely agree. GTA V is a tremendous technical achievement -- it’s stunning to think they’re getting those visuals out of hardware which launched nearly a decade ago. It’s also jarring to compare the visuals with the gameplay, which is largely outrageous. I preferred GTA III’s character design, by then-unknown comic book artist Brian Wood. Great stuff. And the whacked out cartoon physics work better in a cartoon environment. They’ll never go back to a less representational style though. Compare sales of GTA V and GTA Chinatown Wars, and marketing will draw a straight comparison for whomever proposes it.

[Damian79]

Maybe it's not complicated but it just wasn't very good. Unwieldy and cumbersome.

I am thinking that is why Squaresoft decided to not make a real sequel to CT.  Nintards were too dumb to appreciate it.

http://www.polygon.com/2014/8/30/6085559/chrono-trigger-sequel-sakaguchi

Final Fantasy creator and Chrono Trigger designer Hironobu Sakaguchi wanted Chrono Trigger to "evolve into something like a Final Fantasy" in terms of serialization, the Mistwalker founder said today during a PAX Prime panel.

Sakaguchi worked as a designer on the original Chrono Trigger. Speaking via translator at the "Hironobu Sakaguchi Reflection: Past, Present, Future of RPGs" panel, he explained that game could have had more than follow-up Chrono Cross, which Sakaguchi did not work on.

"We wanted to continue it as a series," Sakaguchi said. "... But — and I think the statute of limitations has passed and expired so I think I'm okay saying this — but we just didn't see eye-to-eye with management, and so I went and fought for it, and I officially lost the battle."

As for follow-ups to his other past projects, such as Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey or The Last Story, there are no official plans for continuations. However, Sakaguchi said, it would be nice to return to those old games and continue that work.

"Just between some of us that worked on it, we would hope or we talk about it once in awhile that we'd like to," he said.

"All those IPs, there isn't a continuation or a series," he said. "Nothing's confirmed. But again, it would be nice to be able to work on a continuation of my old creations."

[Himu]

Having played a little Vice City and watching some GTA 5 youtube videos... GTA 5 looks so fucking weird. It's looks so realistic but the gameplay is obviously completely ridiculous and anything but realistic. It's so jarring. Vice City with its primitive 3D has an (unintentional?) cartoony look and the visuals suit the action more. GTA 5 looks weird, and sadly, anything but fun.

I completely agree. GTA V is a tremendous technical achievement -- it’s stunning to think they’re getting those visuals out of hardware which launched nearly a decade ago. It’s also jarring to compare the visuals with the gameplay, which is largely outrageous. I preferred GTA III’s character design, by then-unknown comic book artist Brian Wood. Great stuff. And the whacked out cartoon physics work better in a cartoon environment. They’ll never go back to a less representational style though. Compare sales of GTA V and GTA Chinatown Wars, and marketing will draw a straight comparison for whomever proposes it.

but isn't this more indicative of the platform than the art style?

let's say gta6 looks like the actual artwork they use for marketing in gta? I think it'd do well. I mean, look at borderlands. It sells well and it's cel shaded.

[I'm a Puppy!]

Oh look that chest had a monster in it that killed me in one hit.
Retry
I wonder if that chest still has the monster....yup.
I am not a smart man.

[chronovore]

Having played a little Vice City and watching some GTA 5 youtube videos... GTA 5 looks so fucking weird. It's looks so realistic but the gameplay is obviously completely ridiculous and anything but realistic. It's so jarring. Vice City with its primitive 3D has an (unintentional?) cartoony look and the visuals suit the action more. GTA 5 looks weird, and sadly, anything but fun.

I completely agree. GTA V is a tremendous technical achievement -- it’s stunning to think they’re getting those visuals out of hardware which launched nearly a decade ago. It’s also jarring to compare the visuals with the gameplay, which is largely outrageous. I preferred GTA III’s character design, by then-unknown comic book artist Brian Wood. Great stuff. And the whacked out cartoon physics work better in a cartoon environment. They’ll never go back to a less representational style though. Compare sales of GTA V and GTA Chinatown Wars, and marketing will draw a straight comparison for whomever proposes it.

but isn't this more indicative of the platform than the art style?

let's say gta6 looks like the actual artwork they use for marketing in gta? I think it'd do well. I mean, look at borderlands. It sells well and it's cel shaded.

Eschewing Roman numerals and bold formatting for a moment...

It took me a moment to recognize what you’re saying; the marketing stuff, you also mean what they use for their loading screens since GTA4, right? In its paneled cutscenes Chinatown Wars could have had a similar art-style to GTA4; hell, it could have used the painterly “marketing” style there, but it instead chose a more comic-book style.

Yes, you’re right: GTA3 and GTA:CW are products of the limitations of hardware. It’s also fair to state that GTA5 is an extension of the visual language initiated in Table Tennis and GTA4, then continued in Red Dead Redemption. Let’s call it Rockstar’s RAGE-era style, as Table Tennis was their first RAGE effort, IIRC.

[Himu]

I feel like that if GTAV looked like this



the dissonance wouldn't be there. The same being true for IV.

I think this could work because:

1. GTA's art, as I said above, is iconic. It's still mimicked in pop culture to this day, especially the box art - which is always seen as a huge reveal event.

2. It's one of the few western series' that still releases character art in this manner. It's very Japanese, actually. Japanese developers will often release art for their products and have the games art style reflect that art. In western games, the art rarely reflects the final game release (example: Dragon Age Origins) or they don't release art at all or make whatever marketing materials they do have use in-game models (which is the majority).

3. This allows a sense of balance. The game is no longer overly realistic in terms of visuals, but the character designs are world still are something that mimics real life, so while being stylized it's still instantly recognizable, and given the adult proportions of the characters will give off the tone that it's still a game geared for adults.

4. Due to the iconic art of GTA, I doubt that they will see a dent in sales since everyone worships GTA art to begin with.


And my point was that I doubt GTACW didn't do well because of art style but platform (it did after all start out on the DS).

[chronovore]

Man, I remember Chinatown Wars. Such an amazing game, way too addicting. It wasn't a perfect game but it was amazing. I was absolutely utterly convinced it was going to sell millions, but when that didn't happen I was genuinely shocked. I had no idea why. Maybe Nintendo DS gamers were too kiddie for that game after all. The shit sales were unfortunate and unforeseen.

Also I'm stunned you motherfuckers agree with me on GTA5's graphics. I guess not all gamers are afraid of cartoony visuals.

I'm wishing there were more non-representational art styles in games. It's pathetic how many artists even will tell you they're targeting a "photorealistic" look for their game, when that's clearly not even their goal. Learn some vocabulary, and you'll be able to better describe where you actually want to end up, deadbeats. PAGING KARAKAND. School the art staff.

[Mr. Nobody]

Sorry Ruzbeh



Listening to this at the menus 

[I'm a Puppy!]

Yeah, like I said it's hard enough on normal mode, can't imagine doing this on hard mode for the first time.  Use fire boon. Jump on its back and when it is going to launch itself backwards jump off then hit it. I feel it fair to warn you that very soon you're going to have to fight two at the same time. You can leverage the fact that they can do damage to each other, but if you're having such  a hard time with one...

And I feel you on the Anodyne stuff. I switched my main pawn to be a sorcerer and the quest I was just on called for really high dps so I didn't replace the mage. It was painful but I made it. Now that quest is over so I'm totally getting a mage back.

also, wolves hunt in packs.

[Himu]

I think people avoid doing cartoony/stylized visuals because they think it's harder or some shits. Which makes no sense when you look at a game like Killer 7 which doesn't even have any fucking textures. A flawed game of which the visuals were probably the best thing about it.

Killer 7 top five best games of that generation

[Himu]

Man, I remember Chinatown Wars. Such an amazing game, way too addicting. It wasn't a perfect game but it was amazing. I was absolutely utterly convinced it was going to sell millions, but when that didn't happen I was genuinely shocked. I had no idea why. Maybe Nintendo DS gamers were too kiddie for that game after all. The shit sales were unfortunate and unforeseen.

Also I'm stunned you motherfuckers agree with me on GTA5's graphics. I guess not all gamers are afraid of cartoony visuals.

Why would all gamers be afraid of cartoony visuals? We aren't teenagers.

[I'm a Puppy!]

Hrmm...I did that one pretty quickly after getting to the capital (the only other thing I did first was to make the trek up north pass windbluff tower to the guy in the cave that in essence said "LULZ it didn't mean anything!").  The one guys was hard enough, then going back and having to fight two at the same was really hard. But then again, I'm just playing on normal as this will be my first time through bitter black isle.

[Shaka Khan]

Started playing Ookami HD and holy shit can the narrator stop already?

[Positive Touch]

no god dammit it will never stop

ps. if you want to enjoy the game:

1.don't get the upgrades - it makes the game stupid easy
2.don't ever "examine" anything. it's just a hint system that'll tell you how to do all the puzzles

[Himu]

Started playing Ookami HD and holy shit can the narrator stop already?

no

[Shaka Khan]

I remember the game being painfully easy after a few upgrades, I'll try to hold off this time but I might succumb to my spergy tendencies. The game looks super sharp though, and the ability to lower the filter effect is a godsend.

[Positive Touch]

fuck that noise I put the filter on max

[BobFromPikeCreek]

Roommate hooked up his PS4 and I played PT with the lights off. Spooky! Loved it until it started to get stupid ambiguous with the dumb, hyper-specific things you need to do to progress. Still awesome overall.

[Mr. Nobody]

It's fucking confusing to have this thread as well as the random gaming talk thread, but ok.

Any know if those Burnout games are fun? I've seen some youtube videos and I think it looks horrible, not sure why it's so highly rated. Go really fast on a highway and when you crash you get some kind of a slow-mo cutscene? Is that supposed to be fun?

It's great but since you clearly don't want to play it, you don't have to.

[I'm a Puppy!]

It's fucking confusing to have this thread as well as the random gaming talk thread, but ok.

Any know if those Burnout games are fun? I've seen some youtube videos and I think it looks horrible, not sure why it's so highly rated. Go really fast on a highway and when you crash you get some kind of a slow-mo cutscene? Is that supposed to be fun?

I think the PS2 offerings were great especially the last one. Great arcadey fun.
I have mixed feelings about Paradise City though.
It's still fun arcade style racing, it just doesn't seem as fun as the PS2 predecessors.  Racing fans like to look down at Burnout because it's all arcade and very little substance. But if you can accept that you're going to be in a bit of fun.

[I'm a Puppy!]

On Dragon's Dogma switched to a Mystic Archer.
Yeah, that was  a big mistake. I barely survived my quest and used a ton of curatives.
Definitely not my play style, WAY too slow. I don't mind being slow, if when I hit I do a ton of damage, but to be slow and do average damage? No way. I think I'll try an assassin.

[Positive Touch]

Okami on PS2 was trash tier. Sonybots fucking wished it was as good as a Zelda game, although recent Zelda games have reached Okami levels of bad.

you just shit on devil may cry and burnout while hyping up gran turismo and you expect to take you seriously?

[Positive Touch]

in my defense, I saw a paragraph about gran turismo and my eyes glazed over

[Himu]

Burnout Takedown owns.

[Shaka Khan]

Okami on PS2 was trash tier. Sonybots fucking wished it was as good as a Zelda game, although recent Zelda games have reached Okami levels of bad.

Aside from the difficulty, I remember it being a superb Zelda clone.

I also remember Ninthings shaking in their boots, 'cause someone other than kami-sama Miyamoto and onii-sama Aonuma was able to output a solid action-adventure game. It was as if they felt betrayed Whimsy went third party.

Disagree with this and I will cut you.

[chronovore]

I found some amazing Vice City mods that let me control the PC game even better than the PS2 version with the X360 controller But I'm too bored of Vice City after all. I've already played it to death when I was younger.

It's fucking confusing to have this thread as well as the random gaming talk thread, but ok.

Any know if those Burnout games are fun? I've seen some youtube videos and I think it looks horrible, not sure why it's so highly rated. Go really fast on a highway and when you crash you get some kind of a slow-mo cutscene? Is that supposed to be fun?

Sad to hear you travailed so much over GTA:VC only to have it be disappointing. Can you let me know what mods you used for it, in the end? I’m hoping to re-play on PC some day.

Burnout is crazy fun. The slo-mo wipeouts are for when you make someone else crash, as well. It’s a rush. It was also one of the first games I played where the Skinner Box reward system was so well implemented that I didn’t really care if I won the race or not. Well, no, that’s entirely untrue. I’ve experienced incredible rage over losing a race in Burnout, but it is always exhilarating.

Start with Burnout 3 on PS2; it’s probably a buck at most used sources.

[cool breeze]

replaying Batman Arkham City.  I forgot how much of the story is driven by Batman's idiocy.

[Himu]

Okami on PS2 was trash tier. Sonybots fucking wished it was as good as a Zelda game, although recent Zelda games have reached Okami levels of bad.

Aside from the difficulty, I remember it being a superb Zelda clone.

I also remember Ninthings shaking in their boots, 'cause someone other than kami-sama Miyamoto and onii-sama Aonuma was able to output a solid action-adventure game. It was as if they felt betrayed Whimsy went third party.

Disagree with this and I will cut you.

okami barely has any dungeons, the puzzles are brain dead, and exploration is pretty weak. okami is a solid game, but a great zelda clone? it's bad at everything zelda is great at, but great at everything zelda is bad at (namely presentation, stories). I'd say there's very few great zelda clones out there, and okami's not one of them. I'd even wager to say that it's not even zelda clone. it barely has anything resembling zelda in its gameplay. It's action-adventure to be sure, but zelda? Is SotC a Zelda clone now too?

[magus]

they both have the same brain dead puzzle's,tendency to give player gizmo (quick! stop me if you hear this one! bomb goes into cracked wall!) to solve them... bosses that are "stun the boss and then slash at his weakspot", they seems pretty similiar to me

and they both suck

at least okami fulfill my japanese folklore love

[Beezy]

And oh man, Arkham City. I was so excited about it after Asylum, I loved that game, but City was horrid. I was almost shocked by how bad it was, and what a difference it was in quality. Just goes to show how success can go to some people's heads and lose their focus. I still remember the intro to City, it was styled after a film with the way it opens "Bla bla bla presents" with the kind of shit you see in cinema. Really disgusting.

I'm not gonna call it horrid, but it definitely was a letdown for me after the greatness that was Asylum.