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« Reply #840 on: June 01, 2009, 05:36:35 PM »
full game downloads?

msft will soon announce a 250gb harddrive for the low low price of $220

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« Reply #841 on: June 01, 2009, 05:36:44 PM »
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« Reply #842 on: June 01, 2009, 05:36:52 PM »
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« Reply #843 on: June 01, 2009, 05:37:07 PM »
l4d2 just looks like a mod

plus the daytime setting kills part of the tension

http://kotaku.com/5274389/left-4-dead-2-features-melee-deeper-coop

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The game will make use of AI Director 2.0, which Valve says will take the game's dynamic gameplay to the next level. That means the ability to procedurally change weather, world objects and pathways and "tailoring" enemy population, effects and sound.

i'm guessing sometimes it will be day, sometimes night

changing pathways sounds pretty neat - "hey, this alley wasn't blocked off last time!  we're fucked!"
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« Reply #844 on: June 01, 2009, 05:37:33 PM »
Will Natal sell a lot?  I dunno... but what I do know is that it slaughters "waggle". 
I agree that it does seem to slaughter waggle and I would rather have this over waggle, but that is like saying that I would rather have AIDs than the plague  :-\

Oh I agree totally... I can't stand motion controls, but it was just funny to see Microsoft completely and utterly destroy Nintendo at its own game.  It's a shame it probably won't be a massive hit, though.  Or maybe it will?  Who knows at this point...
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« Reply #845 on: June 01, 2009, 05:38:19 PM »
but what I do know is that it slaughters "waggle". 

Does it, though? At least with the Wiimote you have some physical feedback, with Netal you have to go off visuals alone. I can see it working for certain types of games [like Boom Blox], but I just don't see how it can work with something complex like an FPS or anything really fast-paced. And I see there being a much bigger problem with motions not registering properly, moreso than with the Wii, particularly in something fast-paced.
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« Reply #846 on: June 01, 2009, 05:38:44 PM »
l4d2 just looks like a mod

plus the daytime setting kills part of the tension

http://kotaku.com/5274389/left-4-dead-2-features-melee-deeper-coop

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The game will make use of AI Director 2.0, which Valve says will take the game's dynamic gameplay to the next level. That means the ability to procedurally change weather, world objects and pathways and "tailoring" enemy population, effects and sound.

i'm guessing sometimes it will be day, sometimes night

changing pathways sounds pretty neat - "hey, this alley wasn't blocked off last time!  we're fucked!"

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Re: Official Microsoft E3 conference of complete next gen dominance
« Reply #847 on: June 01, 2009, 05:40:25 PM »
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« Reply #848 on: June 01, 2009, 05:40:56 PM »
but what I do know is that it slaughters "waggle". 

Does it, though? At least with the Wiimote you have some physical feedback, with Netal you have to go off visuals alone. I can see it working for certain types of games [like Boom Blox], but I just don't see how it can work with something complex like an FPS or anything really fast-paced. And I see there being a much bigger problem with motions not registering properly, moreso than with the Wii, particularly in something fast-paced.

In regards to FPS... I'd much rather use a regular controller like the 360's or a mouse over the Wii remote, and I'm sure most of you feel the same way.
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« Reply #849 on: June 01, 2009, 05:41:07 PM »
Will Natal sell a lot?  I dunno... but what I do know is that it slaughters "waggle". 
I don't think so, using an accelerometer or a video camera for something like (competitive) driving, sports, or fighting games feels very clunky and is ALWAYS inaccurate.  Especially if you're going for 1:1 recognition.  That's why Wiimotes needed the IR sensors for everything other than broad, basic movements.  Personally, I play a lot of FPS games on 360 but I still can aim a wiimote more accurately.

Xaggle definitely has a lot of non-gaming/casual uses though.  I can imagine the facial recognition software being to keep the kids from playing DOAX2 or any other M-rated game.  Maybe even some party games will come out that require the Natal camera.

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« Reply #850 on: June 01, 2009, 05:42:37 PM »
but what I do know is that it slaughters "waggle". 

Does it, though? At least with the Wiimote you have some physical feedback, with Netal you have to go off visuals alone. I can see it working for certain types of games [like Boom Blox], but I just don't see how it can work with something complex like an FPS or anything really fast-paced. And I see there being a much bigger problem with motions not registering properly, moreso than with the Wii, particularly in something fast-paced.

In regards to FPS... I'd much rather use a regular controller like the 360's or a mouse over the Wii remote, and I'm sure most of you feel the same way.

Yes, I'd rather use a mouse over the Wiimote, but that's not what we're talking about. We're directly addressing whether the Wiimote or Netal works better in actual games.
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« Reply #851 on: June 01, 2009, 05:45:37 PM »
but what I do know is that it slaughters "waggle". 

Does it, though? At least with the Wiimote you have some physical feedback, with Netal you have to go off visuals alone. I can see it working for certain types of games [like Boom Blox], but I just don't see how it can work with something complex like an FPS or anything really fast-paced. And I see there being a much bigger problem with motions not registering properly, moreso than with the Wii, particularly in something fast-paced.

In regards to FPS... I'd much rather use a regular controller like the 360's or a mouse over the Wii remote, and I'm sure most of you feel the same way.

Mouse is still the best but the Wiimote is still a much better compromise than (ugh) dual-analog.
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« Reply #852 on: June 01, 2009, 05:47:47 PM »
At least with dual analog you can turn without moving your crosshairs from the center of the screen.

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« Reply #853 on: June 01, 2009, 05:47:48 PM »
You can still hold a controller while playing and use your motion for specific moves or something. Bettre than Wii, but probably on par with DualShock 3 and you have to pay extra for the luxury

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« Reply #854 on: June 01, 2009, 05:47:59 PM »
The wiimote works incredibly well with well-designed first person games: Corruption, Call of Duty 5, etc.

Natal...is basically just EyeToy: Awesomer
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« Reply #855 on: June 01, 2009, 05:49:15 PM »
Depends on the game. This would be better for Punch Out than Wii's solution. But I don't want to play any of these games anyway. The only built-for-Wii games I want are pointer FPSes, and only sometimes.

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« Reply #856 on: June 01, 2009, 05:54:00 PM »
Also, the only real advantage of Natal gaming-wise is over waggle that it can detect individual limbs.  But you have just your limbs to control with, no buttons.

maybe if they made some peripherals shaped like baseball bats or steering wheels with buttons on it, it could work.

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« Reply #857 on: June 01, 2009, 05:57:26 PM »
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« Reply #858 on: June 01, 2009, 06:00:08 PM »
Also, the only real advantage of Natal gaming-wise is over waggle that it can detect individual limbs.  But you have just your limbs to control with, no buttons.
Uh, did you even watch the Natal segment?  That's hardly the "only real advantage".
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« Reply #859 on: June 01, 2009, 06:00:42 PM »
Physical media >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Digital content

Physical media can be loaned to friends, and/or easily transported to distant locations.  It can be re-sold on eBay or traded in for credit towards new games at Gamestop.

Digital media is stuck on a gigantic box that sits in your living room, and cannot be loaned to friends, re-sold or traded in for credit.  The only advantage is that you get it quickly without leaving your house.  Other than that, it's all disadvantages.

Relatively speaking, you probably have a lot more storage space for physical games as well.  A few shelves can hold dozens of 360 games.  The 360 hard drive can hold...1 game, maybe.  Even with the 120gb hard drive you're looking at what 12-14 games at best?

Also the fact you're paying straight MSRP probably. Chances are most of the games they'll show you can find on sale cheaper than download when they set that fixed. And thats without a disc, case, manual, or a chance to resale or anything. If they made games about 50% cheaper on there from their lowest MSRP, then that would be a deal. I mean, its just a fixed cost to sale the games online anyway. There's no variable cost. Whether you sale 10,000 or 100,000 of the game via download, it doesn't cost you anything more, like with a boxed game with the materials, retailers cut, etc. So may as well make the games cheap via download.

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« Reply #860 on: June 01, 2009, 06:01:47 PM »
l4d2 just looks like a mod

plus the daytime setting kills part of the tension

http://kotaku.com/5274389/left-4-dead-2-features-melee-deeper-coop

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The game will make use of AI Director 2.0, which Valve says will take the game's dynamic gameplay to the next level. That means the ability to procedurally change weather, world objects and pathways and "tailoring" enemy population, effects and sound.

i'm guessing sometimes it will be day, sometimes night

changing pathways sounds pretty neat - "hey, this alley wasn't blocked off last time!  we're fucked!"

that sounds awesome. changing pathways was something i had hoped would be in the first one

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« Reply #861 on: June 01, 2009, 06:01:55 PM »
anyone know what the correct link for this is?

http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...de-trailer.zip



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« Reply #862 on: June 01, 2009, 06:02:42 PM »
I just got here, can someone give me a quick summary on what was announced, I have some homework to finish and don't have time to go through all this pages.

Edit: omg a new metal gear???????? BONER!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #863 on: June 01, 2009, 06:04:52 PM »
"Ever wanted to know what the bottom of an Avatar's shoe looks like?"

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« Reply #864 on: June 01, 2009, 06:05:09 PM »
WHERE IS MY LOST PLANET 2 DEMO CAPCOM YOU FUCKS

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« Reply #865 on: June 01, 2009, 06:05:18 PM »
What the fuck is this shit, no E3 conference video ready to watch now? Fuck these sites, lame ass tards.

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« Reply #866 on: June 01, 2009, 06:05:59 PM »
nvm
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« Reply #867 on: June 01, 2009, 06:06:30 PM »
(Image removed from quote.)

Yeah, let's ignore the entirety of the presentation and just harp on two seconds of it that went wrong. 
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« Reply #868 on: June 01, 2009, 06:07:57 PM »
Where can I watch the presentation? Just got out of work  ::)
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« Reply #869 on: June 01, 2009, 06:09:30 PM »
Natal is going to slaughter the Wii!!

It's only a few years and 20 million consoles too late but who cares.

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« Reply #870 on: June 01, 2009, 06:10:04 PM »
I hate not having internet at home, I wanna watch some trailers :'(
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« Reply #871 on: June 01, 2009, 06:11:28 PM »
If you have Comcast cable, G4 will more than likely put a ton of them up on their OnDemand service.
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« Reply #872 on: June 01, 2009, 06:12:43 PM »
Yeah, exactly. How is natal going to slaughter wii again?

Can someone explain how at all Microsoft expects wii moms and their ilk who actually are the ones scared of fancy controllers to buy a 360 and spend $200 for a natal? if you can't explain that than this "slaughtering" wii stuff is a joke.

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« Reply #873 on: June 01, 2009, 06:14:05 PM »
Yeah, no one's torrenting it yet?  I missed a lot of the later stuff
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« Reply #874 on: June 01, 2009, 06:15:19 PM »
Yeah, exactly. How is natal going to slaughter wii again?

Can someone explain how at all Microsoft expects wii moms and their ilk who actually are the ones scared of fancy controllers to buy a 360 and spend $200 for a natal? if you can't explain that than this "slaughtering" wii stuff is a joke.

Remember when people saw SIXAXIS and immediately declared that the Wii was doomed?

Yeah.
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« Reply #875 on: June 01, 2009, 06:15:33 PM »
Yay I can download the videos from gametrailers!!! homework be dammed.
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« Reply #876 on: June 01, 2009, 06:15:42 PM »


Natal...is basically just EyeToy: Awesomer


Agreed, what are these people comparing it to the Wii controller on?

The Wii controller for better or worse is STANDARD with the game system. Meaning, every game uses it (which most people think is worse, but Nintendo markets brilliantly regardless of game quality.) It's part of the system's identity.

This camera thing is going to have a packet of minigames they showed come with it, and some minor add on support put in future actual games ALA connectivity, six axis, and whatever the fuck else there's been that was irrelevant the past 10 years.

No one is going to design a game from the ground up with this thing for a peripheral someone has to buy for probably upwards of $100.00. These peripheral things NEVER work unless they're very small, cheap incremental things that come in games (ala N64 expansion pack that comes in a game itself.)

Nintendo's really kicked Sony and Microsoft's ass marketing wise this generation. There's no one who can deny that. Most of the Wii games are third party shovelware, Nintendo itself isn't even churning out games near as much as they used to and the ones they do are almost exclusively Gamecube ports, and a silly fitness game has pushed the Wii to a ridiculous level.

But the real kicker is that Microsoft and Sony keep trying to MATCH it and keep shooting themselves in the foot. It seriously is funny as hell to watch from a business standpoint. Sony throws in some halfhearted axis control support and dumb Eyetoy thing for a nice waste of money, while Microsoft probably sunk a TON into that camera peripheral and are going to get burnt big time when they find out no one is buying it and future game support for it rivals past failed add-ons. It's like Nintendo is kicking these guys in the nuts and they're trying to heal themself by shooting themselves in nads.  :lol

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« Reply #877 on: June 01, 2009, 06:16:26 PM »
IGN is saying that the Metal Gear game is exclusive to 360

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« Reply #878 on: June 01, 2009, 06:17:27 PM »
(Image removed from quote.)

Yeah, let's ignore the entirety of the presentation and just harp on two seconds of it that went wrong. 
Well, it was one of the few things presented live that went beyond eyetoy mini-games of swatting shit onscreen. They still have time to tighten things up though, or at least understand how to work within it's limitations
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« Reply #879 on: June 01, 2009, 06:17:38 PM »
IGN is saying that the Metal Gear game is exclusive to 360

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« Reply #880 on: June 01, 2009, 06:17:56 PM »
IGN is saying that the Metal Gear game is exclusive to 360

I'd wait 45 minutes for the Kojima countdown to run out before making any conclusions if I were IGN.

Geoff Keighly asked some MS reps about Rising being a 360 exclusive, and they were trying to change the subject, so I doubt it's exclusive. MS would've gone on and on and on if it were.
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« Reply #881 on: June 01, 2009, 06:18:19 PM »
Wii Fit Plus or whatever the fuck it is called will have like 10000000000000000x the resonance with the casual market than a $200 accessory for a system they don't own. To those like ChowChow who say otherwise are just plain distinguished mentally-challenged.

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« Reply #882 on: June 01, 2009, 06:19:09 PM »
Yeah, exactly. How is natal going to slaughter wii again?

Can someone explain how at all Microsoft expects wii moms and their ilk who actually are the ones scared of fancy controllers to buy a 360 and spend $200 for a natal? if you can't explain that than this "slaughtering" wii stuff is a joke.

1.  I'm assuming you're referring to my post with the "slaughtering" quote, so I ask you to read it again.  I didn't say it would slaughter the Wii on a sales-front.

2.  The $200 number is complete speculation by the Seattle Times author that barely literate clowns like yourself latched onto without any attempt to read the source of the claim. 

3.  Wii/Waggle slaughtered
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« Reply #883 on: June 01, 2009, 06:19:16 PM »
IGN is saying that the Metal Gear game is exclusive to 360

Wasn't this said like 10 times over the MS conference? It's a new MGS game (without Solid Snake) exclusive for 360.

No, not once.

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Re: Official Microsoft E3 conference of complete next gen dominance
« Reply #884 on: June 01, 2009, 06:19:30 PM »
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« Reply #885 on: June 01, 2009, 06:20:16 PM »
Yeah, exactly. How is natal going to slaughter wii again?

Can someone explain how at all Microsoft expects wii moms and their ilk who actually are the ones scared of fancy controllers to buy a 360 and spend $200 for a natal? if you can't explain that than this "slaughtering" wii stuff is a joke.

1.  I'm assuming you're referring to my post with the "slaughtering" quote, so I ask you to read it again.  I didn't say it would slaughter the Wii on a sale-front.

2.  The $200 number is complete speculation by the Seattle Times author that barely literate clowns like yourself latched onto without any attempt to read the source of the claim. 

3.  Waggle slaughtered
I am not talking sales. I am talking resonance and importance to this market. all the casuals will care about post-e3 is wii fit plus.

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« Reply #886 on: June 01, 2009, 06:20:55 PM »
Yeah, exactly. How is natal going to slaughter wii again?

Can someone explain how at all Microsoft expects wii moms and their ilk who actually are the ones scared of fancy controllers to buy a 360 and spend $200 for a natal? if you can't explain that than this "slaughtering" wii stuff is a joke.

1.  I'm assuming you're referring to my post with the "slaughtering" quote, so I ask you to read it again.  I didn't say it would slaughter the Wii on a sale-front.

2.  The $200 number is complete speculation by the Seattle Times author that barely literate clowns like yourself latched onto without any attempt to read the source of the claim. 

3.  Waggle slaughtered
I am not talking sales. I am talking resonance and importance to this market. all the casuals will care about post-e3 is wii fit plus.

It depends on how the mass media treats it.

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« Reply #887 on: June 01, 2009, 06:21:30 PM »
Nintendo also knew that in order to sell their concept of motion-control, they would have to take a risk and create a completely brand new system separate from the Gamecube, otherwise hardly anyone would buy a peripheral that doesn't even fit in with any of the already existing games on the system.

Microsoft (and Sony if they do it) should've waited for the next generation to introduce this.
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« Reply #888 on: June 01, 2009, 06:22:05 PM »
chow-chow crying :gloomy
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« Reply #889 on: June 01, 2009, 06:26:48 PM »
I don't know what kind of patents MS has set up for this but maybe they're looking to lay the groundwork for the next gen while locking some shit down for themselves. By the time this is out this gen will pretty much on cruise control...
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« Reply #890 on: June 01, 2009, 06:27:46 PM »
I just watched some L4D2 vids

Yeah, it sure looks like a mod or new skins, they really need to emphasize the gameplay changes

supposedly there's a new game mode valve isn't talking about yet, i'm guessing it's you as an infected spreading the infection around
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« Reply #891 on: June 01, 2009, 06:28:08 PM »
Nintendo also knew that in order to sell their concept of motion-control, they would have to take a risk and create a completely brand new system separate from the Gamecube, otherwise hardly anyone would buy a peripheral that doesn't even fit in with any of the already existing games on the system.

Microsoft (and Sony if they do it) should've waited for the next generation to introduce this.

Yeah exactly. They could have released the 'Wii peripheral' for Gamecube, Nintendo could have skipped this generation, and chances are they would be out of business right now. Some morons don't get that integration is key here, and image is key. Microsoft could release the best virtual reality machine for like $50 and it wouldn't sell jack shit without integration.

And they are trying to have their cake and eat it too, wanting to be all everything system, when they should realize their market is for the enthusiastic gamers. For it to succeed they would almost have to reinvent their image, which would mean a new console and less emphasis on the hardcore market. You can't have both at once. Nintendo couldn't have been successful even if they had kept the Gamecube at the exact same price, included a Wii peripheral kit with Wii Sports, because that wasn't the Gamecube's image. Throw in the fact that its also a separate peripheral and its done. Damn, you would think some of these guys would have a little bit of business sense here.

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« Reply #892 on: June 01, 2009, 06:34:26 PM »
um, Microsoft can just re-launch the 360 when it comes out.  I'm not making a Gamecube -> Wii joke.

Microsoft already did something similar with new xbox dash, so why not this? even Sony seems to be doing something similar with the PSP and slim PS3.  If you care about perception, they can deal with that easily.

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« Reply #893 on: June 01, 2009, 06:36:17 PM »
every e3 people claim oh man NINTENDO DEFEATED or whatever in some term. that is never happening any time soon, stop competing with them. it is best just to ignore them and let them do their non-gaming stuff or whatever they are doing it. trying out non-game them is a unwinnable fight.

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« Reply #894 on: June 01, 2009, 06:38:15 PM »
Microsoft already did something similar with new xbox dash, so why not this?

What did that help?

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« Reply #895 on: June 01, 2009, 06:39:30 PM »
Every e3? only about 2.  Did you forget that they were failures with the Gamecube? old E3 with them was showing off gamecube connectivity or electroplankin.

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Re: Official Microsoft E3 conference of complete next gen dominance
« Reply #896 on: June 01, 2009, 06:40:53 PM »
chow-chow crying :gloomy

what am i crying about... i loved the conference.  all my posts are positive
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Re: Official Microsoft E3 conference of complete next gen dominance
« Reply #897 on: June 01, 2009, 06:41:06 PM »
IGN is saying that the Metal Gear game is exclusive to 360

IGN also said that Metal Gear Solid Triology was confirmed and real.  
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Re: Official Microsoft E3 conference of complete next gen dominance
« Reply #898 on: June 01, 2009, 06:43:04 PM »
20 mnutes to go and hopefully things are cleared up one way or the other.

I still don't see how MS would hype the timed exclusive MW2 dlc maps but not mention once how Rising is exclusive.
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Re: Official Microsoft E3 conference of complete next gen dominance
« Reply #899 on: June 01, 2009, 06:44:26 PM »
IGN is saying that the Metal Gear game is exclusive to 360

sonyfan suicide confirmed?

RIP Veidt.