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« Reply #120 on: September 08, 2009, 04:17:24 AM »
Thanks. What do you think of Drake's "Fear?" (HAD TO DO IT)

"I never cried when Pac died. But I will when Hov does"  :piss2  :maf :-\

I like the beat tho, not a bad song. but imma kill the next person who talks shit about Pac  :'(

Would we call that talking shit?  ???

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« Reply #121 on: September 08, 2009, 04:18:26 AM »
How is he talking shit about him? I'm sure you didn't cry when he died either. You probably didn't even know who he was back then.

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« Reply #122 on: September 08, 2009, 04:41:54 AM »
How is he talking shit about him? I'm sure you didn't cry when he died either. You probably didn't even know who he was back then.

True. But when I eventually found out Pac's new albums were posthumous releases I cried for days
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« Reply #123 on: September 08, 2009, 09:14:34 AM »
smh

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« Reply #124 on: September 08, 2009, 11:16:05 AM »
lol PD
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« Reply #125 on: September 08, 2009, 04:48:40 PM »
OB4CLII = #1 on iTunes... Jay-Z owned. I'm surprised it even charted though, tbh.

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« Reply #126 on: September 08, 2009, 04:56:55 PM »
:bow

I think I'll go buy it, and pick up another copy of OBFCLI (my old one is fucked up). Hopefully this leads to more Wu shit. I'd love to see them collect a bunch of good production and hit it out the park. With or without RZA
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« Reply #127 on: September 08, 2009, 04:58:18 PM »
:bow

I think I'll go buy it, and pick up another copy of OBFCLI (my old one is fucked up). Hopefully this leads to more Wu shit. I'd love to see them collect a bunch of good production and hit it out the park. With or without RZA

I had already downloaded OB4CLII, but I bought it anyway with an iTunes gift certificate to support this trend and keep it at #1.
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« Reply #128 on: September 09, 2009, 06:46:15 PM »
Who came up with the line- Jay-Z the black Ray Romano? Or did I come up with that?
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« Reply #129 on: September 09, 2009, 06:52:59 PM »


Fuck Jay-Z
Fuck Raekwon and his rapping over the same beats other people have rapped over (I waited years for OB4CL2 and it turned out to be a hip-hop karaoke album?!?)

This is the business right here, and I don't even really like that thug shit.
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« Reply #130 on: September 09, 2009, 06:59:46 PM »
The production is disappointing but it's still pretty good...
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« Reply #131 on: September 09, 2009, 07:02:13 PM »
PD, Jay z hate on gaf has been hilarious lately, brother

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« Reply #132 on: September 09, 2009, 07:03:39 PM »
Fuck Jay-Z. Sure he has three very good albums, I'm not denying that. But I hate seeing someone hijack everyone's style, then run with it and take credit for it. Fuck that.
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« Reply #133 on: September 09, 2009, 07:06:16 PM »
The Nas Stan is happy, the Hip-Hop fan is dying  :'(

Fucking hell. Nas and J. Cole :punch
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« Reply #134 on: September 09, 2009, 07:13:18 PM »
But I hate seeing someone hijack everyone's style, then run with it and take credit for it. Fuck that.

So you hate hip-hop, and most music in general?

This whole generation has been plagiaristic, whether in celebration or defamation.
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« Reply #135 on: September 09, 2009, 07:15:45 PM »
No one has done it with a more smug and arrogant tone than Jay-Z, at least in hip hop.
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« Reply #136 on: September 09, 2009, 07:19:23 PM »
It's funny Hip-Hop was for the youf. Now it's dominated by 30-40 year old rappers. Soulja Boy is actually good that way.
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« Reply #137 on: September 09, 2009, 07:21:34 PM »
I just think Jay-Z is incredibly boring. I'm still scratching my head over that distinguished effete fellow that said Reasonable Doubt > Illmatic.

edit: I guess I say that about a lot of rappers, though. I'm pretty picky I suppose
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« Reply #138 on: September 09, 2009, 07:27:56 PM »
I kinda like that "Death of Auto Tune" though  :-\
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« Reply #139 on: September 09, 2009, 07:45:42 PM »
I kinda like that "Death of Auto Tune" though  :-\
If it's a good song, it's a good song. I'm not a Jay-Z fan either, but I like a good amount of songs on BP3.

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« Reply #140 on: September 09, 2009, 07:48:42 PM »
Man GAFfot is wordfiltered out now? Not cool :maf
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« Reply #141 on: September 09, 2009, 11:57:09 PM »
It's funny Hip-Hop was for the youf. Now it's dominated by 30-40 year old rappers. Soulja Boy is actually good that way.
>:(
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« Reply #142 on: September 10, 2009, 12:27:06 AM »
Yep I rather Soulja Boy make a club song than some 30 year old. People need to stay retired. Leave innovation to the youngin's
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« Reply #143 on: September 10, 2009, 12:35:25 AM »
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« Reply #144 on: September 10, 2009, 09:45:01 AM »


Club songs =/= innovation
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« Reply #145 on: September 10, 2009, 02:47:15 PM »
[youtube=560,345][/youtube]

BEHOLD INNOVATION
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« Reply #146 on: September 10, 2009, 02:53:39 PM »
A club song is a club song. As long as it's not utterly lyrically grating who cares. My brother dismisses any rap that doesn't have a message of some sort. I've seen him look up lyrics to Ante Up and try to say it's not a good song. It's a club song mother fucker, and one of the hardest ever  :lol

Look back at say Biggie's club shit. Lyrically it's heights above the "shawty imma buy u a drank" shit of modern rap. Hell, go back and listen to Will Smith club songs and compare them to Soulja Boy
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« Reply #147 on: September 10, 2009, 03:01:37 PM »
great, soulja boy vs. will smith.

we've officially gone into the hip-hop special olympics.

here's the best club song.
[youtube=560,345][/youtube]

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« Reply #148 on: September 10, 2009, 03:03:48 PM »
Will Smith was hot, stfu  :lol

[youtube=560,345]_W9kcxdPPjk[/youtube]
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« Reply #149 on: September 10, 2009, 03:06:58 PM »
and you call Jay-Z derivative smh. At least Jay's got a good delivery, even if it's too cocksure.

Fresh Prince was a hot song...haha
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« Reply #150 on: September 10, 2009, 03:08:55 PM »
Will Smith was hot, stfu  :lol

[youtube=560,345]_W9kcxdPPjk[/youtube]
:lol omg
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« Reply #151 on: September 10, 2009, 03:12:28 PM »
yeah, having listened through the whole thing, smith's lyrics still barely manage to escape 3rd grade playground rhymes.
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« Reply #152 on: September 10, 2009, 03:13:14 PM »
 :lol

What's your opinion on run dmc good sir :o
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« Reply #153 on: September 10, 2009, 03:18:01 PM »
:lol

What's your opinion on run dmc good sir :o

better beats, better lyrics, innovative for their time and set a precedent for hip-hop in general?

i don't see any connection between will smith and RUN...
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« Reply #154 on: September 10, 2009, 03:25:15 PM »
Sure, although lyrically they weren't too separated. An argument about lyrical complexity in the 80s isn't going to go anywhere unless you focus on Rakim/Kane/etc

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also KRS-One and Buckshot's collabo album just leaked..
http://forums.projectcovo.com/showthread.php?t=2204061

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« Reply #155 on: September 10, 2009, 03:40:29 PM »
the Fresh Prince was awesome. I don't give a fuck

Will Smith, though. He sucks.
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« Reply #156 on: September 10, 2009, 05:35:10 PM »
Sure, although lyrically they weren't too separated. An argument about lyrical complexity in the 80s isn't going to go anywhere unless you focus on Rakim/Kane/etc

Lyrical complexity and good lyrics are different concepts, some of the best lyrics/poetry use simple phrasing and ideas. And hip-hop in general is a balancing act of finding/crafting great beats and building compelling lyrics. Dilla rapped off of his own great beats, but lyrically he was always really lacking, whereas Nas has failed to find good beats to compliment his lyrics. But it's okay, I generally don't disagree with you much PD regarding hip-hop.
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« Reply #157 on: September 10, 2009, 05:51:24 PM »
Your criticism of Will struck me as one on his lyrical complexity, my bad. Overall I agree with you
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« Reply #158 on: September 10, 2009, 07:02:27 PM »
You know motherfuckers actually think Rakim ghost-wrote that shit? :bow2

Will Smith just sells songs on his charisma for instance the greatest rap-pop-party song
[youtube=560,345]BIduOvEoVeQ[/youtube]
Everybody remembers 'Gettin' Jiggy With It' hell nobody knows what even jiggy meant until Nas and Will.

First jiggy, than ether. The duality of Nas :bow2
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« Reply #159 on: September 10, 2009, 08:20:25 PM »
So I'm listening to the KRS-One/Buckshot album and meh. Lots of grumpy old man "remember when there was real rap..." rhymes, boring punch lines, production that doesn't stand out, a Talib Kweli guest appearance...yea, a typical underground rap album lol
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« Reply #160 on: September 10, 2009, 09:11:58 PM »
You really should listen to a People Under the Stairs album, PD. Any one will do, really.
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ch1nchilla

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« Reply #161 on: September 11, 2009, 12:17:51 AM »
Listening through the Kid Cudi right now... I don't see what all the hating's for tbh. Some of it IS boring, but it's not all that unappealing, either. Hyyerr has an awesome Bone vibe too. Also, Chip tha Ripper is awesome.

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« Reply #162 on: September 11, 2009, 12:21:45 AM »
So I'm listening to the KRS-One/Buckshot album and meh. Lots of grumpy old man "remember when there was real rap..." rhymes, boring punch lines, production that doesn't stand out, a Talib Kweli guest appearance...yea, a typical underground rap album lol

The thing that killed me was,"Talib Kweli appearance"

so true

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« Reply #163 on: September 14, 2009, 07:13:01 PM »
Was making my daily rounds through hip hop blogs when I found

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Everybody’s favorite masked MC is preparing to drop a rarities compilation next month on Gold Dust.

1. Get ‘Er Done feat. DOOM - Jake One
2. Fly That Knot feat. DOOM - Talib Kweli
3. Sniper Elite feat. DOOM - Dilla Ghostface DOOM
4. Trap Door feat. DOOM - Jake One
5. Sorcerers feat. DOOM & Invizible Handz - John Robinson
6. Da Supafriendz - Vast Aire
7. Quite Buttery - Count Bass D feat DOOM
8. ? - DOOM featuring Kurious
9. All Outta Ale - DOOM
10. E.N.Y. House - Masta Killa
11. Bells of DOOM - DOOM
12. My Favorite Ladies - DOOM
13. Street Corners (Remix) - Masta Killa, Inspectah Deck & GZA
info at link http://nahright.com/news/2009/09/14/doom-unexpected-guests-artwork-tracklist/#more-83302


....I've heard half these tracks, and many of the rest are on youtube in some form or another. smh

Release something new you lazy bum
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« Reply #164 on: September 14, 2009, 07:23:38 PM »
He just put out an album this year, damn!
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« Reply #165 on: September 14, 2009, 07:25:44 PM »
How many albums does Doom have on his belt now? @_@

ch1nchilla

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« Reply #166 on: September 14, 2009, 07:26:42 PM »
off topic

So in my anticipation of the Clipse, I've decided that I'm going to look past the mediocre releases so far (and how they're not even charting on iTunes), and continue to be excited for Till the Casket Drops. I've also concluded that the Clipse are somehow the most impossible to market rap group of all time.  :-\ Play Cloths seems to be going well for them, though.

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« Reply #167 on: September 14, 2009, 07:31:25 PM »
Clipse should just say "fuck it" and sign an independent deal asap. No more forced club/ring tone songs, no more getting dicked around by Pharrel, etc. Plus they'd actually be making money
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« Reply #168 on: September 14, 2009, 07:35:12 PM »
Clipse should just say "fuck it" and sign an independent deal asap. No more forced club/ring tone songs, no more getting dicked around by Pharrel, etc. Plus they'd actually be making money

I like Pharrell. I really do. I think he's a cool guy, I think BBC / Ice Cream is an awesome brand with some great stuff. BUT HE CAN'T PRODUCE FOR SHIT ANYMORE. I think it has to do with the disappearance of Chad Hugo. They should just go entirely with independent producers, because they already have a 50/50 w/ masters deal with Sony Music Group. They're wasting money with Kanye and all these other big name producers (ESPECIALLY Pharrell), when they could get something that sounds a lot closer to Hell Hath No Fury, with no noticeably forced songs. They're relying too much on production, when they're a lyrical duo to begin with.

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« Reply #169 on: September 14, 2009, 07:41:59 PM »
According to wiki they'll have Hitmen (Biggie, Jay), J.U.S.T.I.C.E League, Rick Rubin, DJ Khalil, and some others. That's not bad; didn't like American Gangster but the production was nice, and J.U.S.T.I.C.E League's stuff on Rick Ross' album (don't laugh dammit) is very good imo.

Corn, did you like Born Like This? I thought it was disappointing overall, seemed thrown together. Haven't re-visited it in some time though
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« Reply #170 on: September 14, 2009, 08:45:33 PM »
I saw today that The Black Keys made a hip-hop album.  The list of guests is impressive:  Jim Jones, Mos Def, RZA, Raekwon, Q-Tip, Ludacris, Pharoahe Monch, Billy Danze, and Ol' Dirty Bastard. 

Might be good!??  Reminds me of The Roots, in a good way.

[youtube=560,345]QtZVUT3B_L0[/youtube]
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« Reply #171 on: September 14, 2009, 08:48:49 PM »
According to wiki they'll have Hitmen (Biggie, Jay), J.U.S.T.I.C.E League, Rick Rubin, DJ Khalil, and some others. That's not bad; didn't like American Gangster but the production was nice, and J.U.S.T.I.C.E League's stuff on Rick Ross' album (don't laugh dammit) is very good imo.

Oh I can't hate on Rick Ross, and JUSTICE League makes great beats. (Did they do Cigar Music? Because even though that's a bonus track, I think it's my favorite overall from Deeper Than Rap... I liked Trilla and Port of Miami way more than DTR, tbh.) And the Hitmen are great. Rick Rubin should provide some good stuff, and if Sean C & LV are still in the line-up, I'm looking forward to their stuff. Back to the Neptunes, why can't they ever use real instruments? Some of their stuff would sound really good if they would just switch it up a little. (really don't laugh: Senorita by Justin Timberlake is a good example of the Neptunes + real instruments)

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« Reply #172 on: September 14, 2009, 08:53:20 PM »
I saw today that The Black Keys made a hip-hop album.  The list of guests is impressive:  Jim Jones, Mos Def, RZA, Raekwon, Q-Tip, Ludacris, Pharoahe Monch, Billy Danze, and Ol' Dirty Bastard. 

Might be good!??  Reminds me of The Roots, in a good way.

[youtube=560,345]QtZVUT3B_L0[/youtube]

HOLY FUCK   :o :o :o :o

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« Reply #173 on: September 22, 2009, 05:50:02 PM »
New Ghostface leaked



http://www.mediafire.com/?tgfyqymz0zt

Downloading it now
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« Reply #174 on: September 22, 2009, 06:11:44 PM »
Are all the songs about women?
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« Reply #175 on: September 22, 2009, 06:13:11 PM »
I dunno, I'm gonna go take a dump before I have a listen. That album art is pretty bad, though :lol
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« Reply #176 on: September 22, 2009, 06:15:19 PM »
It's on youtube too.

Rap about drugs and money, dammit.
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« Reply #177 on: September 22, 2009, 06:24:10 PM »
lol. I just heard the new K'naan album the other day also, thought it was pretty good:
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« Reply #178 on: September 22, 2009, 06:40:47 PM »
Ghost is my fav rapper but I dunno if I should dl that  :'(
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« Reply #179 on: October 06, 2009, 12:17:23 AM »
Had to post this Jay ether from SOHH  :lol
Quote from: goldz-n-hoez
You can tell half of the people are kids that know nothing.

Jay-Z 96 RD was nobody - pac died sold 10X platinum that year- Nas sold 3 X platinum that year
97 Biggie died Jay-Z being smart said "The city is mine" Biggie sold about 10X platinum that year

After 2 albums that wasn't selling that much he moved to Def Jam

In 98 Def Jam could push any artist and they used soundscan tricks to add sales. Volume drops Jay sells 4X platinum. DMX dropped the same year and did 5X platinum

99 volume 3- sells about 500k the first week dec 21 DMX drops dec 28 and sells 798k the first week one week later. Nas dropped I am earlier that year and sold about 2-3m but the CD was bootlegged HEAVY. ****in **** got bootlegged about 3 months before the cd was supposed to drop. It was gonna be a double CD which probably would have sold 10X platinum. I think Jay got the CD from Carmen and bootlegged it so he can stay king lol.

2000 The dynasty?- i forgot what happened with this one and what other cds came out this year

2001 the blueprint- sold less than DMX the great depression the first week. The CD was said to be a classic but with hova hovita and that ***** jigga i refuse to say it was a classic lol..

2002 after being ethered he dropped the blueprint 2 where he cried about ether and wanted people to know he is the best that ever did it.

2003 50 cent dropped GRODT and sold like 6 million that year. I guess Jay-Z thought it was over for him so he retired and dropped the black album. I guess he figured him saying he quit would make people love him more. I guess after he got ethered and dropped the sorry ass BP2 he figured this was his way to sell albums.

2005 Jay declared war to get people to his concert and it was just him bringing out his idol NAS.

2006 kingdom come- 50 cent killed every rapper in NY at this point so Jay-Z came to save the day saying "rap needs me" even tho nobody asked him to come back or missed him. spent about 20 million to promote his comeback album did 698k the first week. 50 Cent worst selling album did 698k the first week and people said he fell off lol.

2007 American gangsta the movie comes out so jay-z uses this as a chance to sell another cd using another gimmick.


Jay-Z whole career he never sold a million the first week. Reasonable Doubt wasn't a classic in 96. Nobody was on it like that. That year was all about NAS and pac. Jay-Z didnt run **** for 6 summers because i don't recall a year where Jay-Z was the highest selling artist for that year. A bunch of number 1 albums but it's not like he dropped albums the same day as DMX, Ja rule, 50 Cent, Nelly, em etc. He picked and chose he dates that's easy lol.

Biggie died he said the city is mine

he retired black album = sales
he returned kingdom come = sales
he used a movie= sales
BP3 used 9/11

Jay-Z has been very good saying he's the best on every track. He has programmed stupid people to believe that. He does have 5-6 good songs per album that keeps him hot. But All Jay-Z songs are the same since he got ethered. Just Jay crying about he the greatest alive lol..
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Also I pulled out the Johnson&Johnson album again, giving it another try. It's good, I like how Blu works within the production
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