PSP Go

[Van Cruncheon]

"Yeah, it seems that Sony has decided to exclusively target people who have been ignoring the PSP for four years because they've been waiting for the price increase."

  funniest thing i've seen on the internet in some time. Congrats.

oscar takes this one

[pilonv1]

Some Australian retailers are already taking $50 off the price. AUS$449 is the rrp.

[TakingBackSunday]

that looks like a wii W 

[T-Short]

They could release a external UMD drive as a USB peripheral to the Go, that would look amazing and hilarious

[Jansen]

Then again, with a CFW PC and a PC app, you can get full screen with filters on all games, plus use any controller.  CFW OWNS AGAIN

[Purple Filth]

Then again, with a CFW PC and a PC app, you can get full screen with filters on all games, plus use any controller.  CFW OWNS AGAIN

its clear he meant CFW psp

[Jansen]

what's not clear is how to get filters for games

i've used remotejoylite and never seen any filters aside from ones that change the color output

[cool breeze]

also the huge ass bezel and the random playstation thumb shaped button, or the giant blank space above the nub and start/select.  It's not a good looking system and I will never understand how people think it's "sexy".

[Purple Filth]

also the huge ass bezel and the random playstation thumb shaped button, or the giant blank space above the nub and start/select.  It's not a good looking system and I will never understand how people think it's "sexy".

only when its closed i guess.

[bork]

can someone clarify something?

i am hearing if you want to charge AND play via a tV at the same time (which SURELY YOU HAVE TO DO) then you HAVE to use the cradle?!

ffffs

I can't get a clear answer on this.     Someone else told me that there seems to be no way to charge and play on TV at the same time, even with the cradle.  That just can't be right...can it?

[pilonv1]

can someone clarify something?

i am hearing if you want to charge AND play via a tV at the same time (which SURELY YOU HAVE TO DO) then you HAVE to use the cradle?!

ffffs

wasn't that confirmed in the thread where someone talked about hooking up a dual shock to it?

[Lucretius]

i cannot imagine any circumstance where this does well

only when it gets hacked

[pilonv1]

you mean feature

at least theyre not tying your purchases to the same machine like Nintendo is with the DSi

[AdmiralViscen]

Maybe they'll come out with a $30 proprietary splitter, house inside a giant brick.

[bork]

the charger uses a USB -> prop. PSP port cable
the output cable for tv goes from prop psp port cable -> tv

so yeah - i don't see how it's possible to do charge and play without the cradle :/

another oversight :/

LOL.  Anytime something cool about the Go pops up (like using a Dual Shock 3 or Six Axis with it), something else comes up that brings it down again.  One my friends just got suckered into buying one (his wife wants it), so I'll check his out for more in-depth-- OH WAIT I can't try out the games I'd like to unless he's already bought them on put them on his system.   

But man, if it did get hacked, I'd buy one in a second.

EDIT: LOL, what did they do to the Go?  You can't even check your battery status anymore.     Any temptation I had is out the window. GEN-B2 plays Minis; Imma buy Thexder and play me some Motorstorm on the good ol' hacked 2000.

[huckleberry]

Even with all the negativity surrounding the Go (and much of it is deserved) I am still going to get one in a few minutes.  The portability factor outweighs most everything else for me. 

I still think its gonna flop...if nothing more than the way Sony has handled the entire thing.  If they really want to move the PSP (and more importantly, the PSP2) into the digital only realm, then the need to take a hit on the Go.  They really should have provided a way for people to transfer UMD games - even if it means that they take a hit on sales from the PSN Store.  It just seems they are going into this whole Go launch in a half assed manner.

[bork]

I can't see myself buying one until all the games I like are on there, at the least.  No Lumines?  No Castlevania The Dracula X Chronicles?  No Outrun 2006?  No Metal Gear Ac!d 2?  No SFA3?  No Ghouls N' Ghosts?  No Ridge Racers?  No Tenchu 4?  There's not even a GTA game on there.   

[huckleberry]

I thought GTA Chinatown War was supposed to hit today? 

I definitely agree that the list is thin right now...hell, I had a helluva time trying to find God of War using the Media Go application this morning...woulnd't come up even on the search function until I signed in! 

The only reason I am purchasing on day one (besides the fact I love buying new shit when it first comes out  ) is that now I will have a way of at least playing all the damn PSone classics that I purchased.  No way am I playing those through the PS3...they look like ass (Wii).




What worries me is that I haven't seen an actual confirmation that from this day forward that alll UMD releases will also be on the PSN store.....if that isn't written in stone then Sony can go take a flying fuck.

[cool breeze]

Games are so expensive on PSN.  I thought they would try to bring the prices down more, since, you know, no one bought them before.  People are saying "God of War is only $16 better than retail!" That game is $6 on Amazon.  Most of the games there can be found for $10+ less new.  And PSP Minis prices are ridiculous.  They said prices comparable to iphone, but Tetris is $10.  Most of the iPhone games are double the price here.

[cool breeze]

  apparently the Undead Knights demo that went up is the full game. It's another Manhunt 2 accident.

[Jansen]

the one on the US store, right?

and where are my 300 psp games for the go's launch sony?

[bork]

I thought GTA Chinatown War was supposed to hit today?

Nope. 

The only reason I am purchasing on day one (besides the fact I love buying new shit when it first comes out  ) is that now I will have a way of at least playing all the damn PSone classics that I purchased.  No way am I playing those through the PS3...they look like ass (Wii).

Yet another reason why CFW PSP is the best.  I don't have to pay to play games I already own on PSOne, and I can play almost PSOne game on my PSP, instead of being limited to what Sony has chosen. 

What worries me is that I haven't seen an actual confirmation that from this day forward that alll UMD releases will also be on the PSN store.....if that isn't written in stone then Sony can go take a flying fuck.

I highly doubt all the PSP games will end up on the PSN store.  A large majority, definitely, but not all of them.

[Smooth Groove]

Review from a former borito and one of the most disgusting Sfags on earth:

[bork]

I hate to trash talk the man when he's not here to defend himself, but Abrader was saying right up until like yesterday that he would never buy one.     I don't see the point in selling off UMD games at a loss only to re-buy them on PSN again. 

[Smooth Groove]

Exact quote from Abrader: "In fact I don't think any other console has had quite such a good launch lineup ever. "

[cool breeze]

I thought GTA Chinatown War was supposed to hit today?

Nope. 

The only reason I am purchasing on day one (besides the fact I love buying new shit when it first comes out  ) is that now I will have a way of at least playing all the damn PSone classics that I purchased.  No way am I playing those through the PS3...they look like ass (Wii).

Yet another reason why CFW PSP is the best.  I don't have to pay to play games I already own on PSOne, and I can play almost PSOne game on my PSP, instead of being limited to what Sony has chosen.

What worries me is that I haven't seen an actual confirmation that from this day forward that alll UMD releases will also be on the PSN store.....if that isn't written in stone then Sony can go take a flying fuck.

I highly doubt all the PSP games will end up on the PSN store.  A large majority, definitely, but not all of them.

speaking about PS1 games on PSP, I just tried spyro again after a few weeks and they've made it better by allowing you to customize it more.  Don't know what firmware upgrade it was part of (I just went to 6.10 on my legit 3000) but now you can customize screen size just like you could for Xbox Live games (stretch, zoom, pan, etc. good for games that have black borders, like Symphony of the Night) and change controls around however you'd like.  Only annoyance is that you're still restricted to the PS1 digital controller, so you can't map the nub to the analog stick yet.

and if all my PSP games go up on PSN, and I can get all the digital versions for free, and the price goes down, I would pick up a Go.  Games on PSN are expensive and I don't get why I'd buy those when UMD versions are cheaper.  I only have three games I bought on PSN and they were PSN exclusives, the others are Manhunt 2 and now Undead Knights which were glitched to be free.  And I have Spyro and Syphon Filter I got free, but those are PS1 games.

btw, Media Go is pretty good software for managing PSP games on your PSP.  Easy to back up saves and games, and unlike directly copying them, it gives you the descriptions of each save like it would on the PSP (% of game completed, etc.).  Plus you have access to PSN on your PC.

[Jansen]

Exact quote from Abrader: "In fact I don't think any other console has had quite such a good launch lineup ever. "

most consoles don't get relaunched in a desperate attempt to please publishers either

[Smooth Groove]

Abrader should be let back in here.  It's almost impossible to find that kinda material from anyone else. 

[Van Cruncheon]

abrader really is functionally distinguished mentally-challenged

[bork]

and where are my 300 psp games for the go's launch sony?

ahem, 700 day 1 according to Kaz at TGS for US launch. OBVIOUS bullshit but , you know, if you have a barrel full of gullible fucking fish you just dangle the old tackle and let them bite.

there was 80 or so PSP games already up prior to all this, now theres about a hundred. :/

I am baffled why people seem to think that carrying the PSP-3000 is some sort of nightmare - as far as i see it something i can't use after 3 fucking hours on the go doesn't matter if it's light because after three hours there's no useful charge solution where as with the psp-3000 i can get on a plan with a mexican style chest bullet belt loaded to the brim with extra batteries.

and yet for some fucking awful reason i know i'm going to buy one.

God I'm a twat.

FIGHT THE URGE!!  FIGHT IT!!  Just keep looking at the post you just wrote when temptation arises.

[Trent Dole]

I need confirmation that the PSPGo is indeed like carrying a small watch with you.

You can strap it to your wrist! 

[bork]

You know, I could fit the PSP 1000 in my pocket back when it first came out.  Nothing else fit in there, sure, but it did fit.  But generally, who walks around with a game system in their pocket other than kids?  If I'm bringing a portable with me, it's going in a backpack, briefcase, or maybe a jacket pocket.  I never bring portables with me unless I'm traveling.

[Smooth Groove]

as far as i see with the GO it is something i can't use after 3 fucking hours so it doesn't matter if it's light because after three hours there's no useful charge solution where as with the psp-3000

That's why you need to get two PSP GO, like Abrader. 

[Raban]

You know, I could fit the PSP 1000 in my pocket back when it first came out.  Nothing else fit in there, sure, but it did fit.  But generally, who walks around with a game system in their pocket other than kids?  If I'm bringing a portable with me, it's going in a backpack, briefcase, or maybe a jacket pocket.  I never bring portables with me unless I'm traveling.

I carried my GameBoy Micro everywhere with me. THAT was a portable console.

[AdmiralViscen]

I can't see myself buying one until all the games I like are on there, at the least.  No Lumines?  No Castlevania The Dracula X Chronicles?  No Outrun 2006?  No Metal Gear Ac!d 2?  No SFA3?  No Ghouls N' Ghosts?  No Ridge Racers?  No Tenchu 4?  There's not even a GTA game on there.   

How the fuck can they not only expect you to throw away your whole disc-based collection for the Go, but then exclude PSP's best titles from the DLC list? What the fuck is going on over there?

And is there really no battery gauge?!

[bork]

How the fuck can they not only expect you to throw away your whole disc-based collection for the Go, but then exclude PSP's best titles from the DLC list? What the fuck is going on over there?

It really doesn't make any sense.  I notice that some of the big Square titles aren't on there, either.

And is there really no battery gauge?!

Yup.  It's distinguished mentally-challenged.

[Third]

I'll buy one when cfw is available.

[Raban]

I'll buy one when cfw is available.

Why? Think about it. If you actually buy this, you're promoting Sony's supremely idiotic business decisions. Don't buy it. Don't even look at it in the stores, Sony knows you glanced at it. And if they get the idea that people are even interested, they're going to continue supporting stupid shit like this. Obviously money is no object to Sony, since this entire generation is nothing but losses for them.

We have to stage an intervention for Sony, and you buying a PSP Go is like putting a bottle of beer in front of an alcoholic.

[bork]

I'll buy one when cfw is available.

Why? Think about it. If you actually buy this, you're promoting Sony's supremely idiotic business decisions. Don't buy it. Don't even look at it in the stores, Sony knows you glanced at it. And if they get the idea that people are even interested, they're going to continue supporting stupid shit like this. Obviously money is no object to Sony, since this entire generation is nothing but losses for them.

We have to stage an intervention for Sony, and you buying a PSP Go is like putting a bottle of beer in front of an alcoholic.

The Go would be very good for CFW, seeing as how it already has 16GB of memory.  With CFW, he'd also be giving Sony the finger.   

But I wouldn't expect to see the Go hacked anytime soon, if ever.  They still can't crack the later 2000 models and the 3000s.

[Raban]

The Go would be very good for CFW, seeing as how it already has 16GB of memory.  With CFW, he'd also be giving Sony the finger.   

Giving Sony the finger is paying $270 for a redesign of an old system with less features and then doing whatever he wants with something that is rightfully his? There's no way around my argument. If he was going to go all-out pirate and steal one off of a cargo freighter that'd be pretty badass and I'd totally condone it. Anything involved with paying money to get a Sony product at present is something I strongly stand against, however.

Everything they've done is one step forward and two steps back, and if people keep buying Sony products, they're going to think they've done nothing wrong.

[MyNameIsMethodis]

Sony hating on Evilbore, who would've thunkit. 

[AdmiralViscen]

Who here is hating on the PSP in general?

[huckleberry]

Sony hating on Evilbore, who would've thunkit. 

Lyte is just trying to talk himself out of buying one and he knows it 

[cool breeze]

Sony hating on Evilbore, who would've thunkit. 

I don't think Sony even knows what Evilbore is

[Raban]

Sony hating on Evilbore, who would've thunkit. 

I don't hate Sony, console wars are so stupid, and I'm not trying to start something. Out of all the next-gen systems I've owned, PS3 was by and large my favorite. But seriously, this late into the game, Sony is doing some astoundingly distinguished mentally-challenged shit.

Granted, MS fucked up by making 360s 50/50 DOA. And Nintendo was shitting it up with no support for anything but casual video games (that looks to be changing, I could be wrong).

But Sony has habitually made the stupidest possible business move every chance they were able to. Releasing a $600 console, ridiculing people who couldn't buy it, dropping the price almost immediately afterwards, SKU boogaloo, spending millions on Home only so Phil Harrison has something to do all day, miserable software pricing structure, a rebranding that created at least 20,000 different logos to be pasted on game boxes, constantly breaking and re-breaking firmware issues, redesigning the PSP and selling it for more money with less features, now a weeaboo version of Home for the PSP. Don't even get me started on the motion control bullshit.

It isn't fair to people who only own a PS3 for this kind of shit to be going on years after its release. At least MS and Nintendo have already begun to clean up their act, as soon as Sony gets its bearings it just falls down all over again.

[MyNameIsMethodis]

I just don't think you guys should bash the PSPGo, or any system, until you've tried them or owned them.

[Raban]

I just don't think you guys should bash the PSPGo, or any system, until you've tried them or owned them.

I've owned a PSP. Thus, I've owned a PSPGo, hell, you could consider it a PSPGo 2, because I was able to do more on that than I could on a PSPGo.

Seriously, if this thing sells more than 5,000 units, my faith in humanity -10.

[bork]

Sony hating on Evilbore, who would've thunkit. 

Lyte is just trying to talk himself out of buying one and he knows it 

Sure, I'm tempted, but the PSP Go's faults and the annoyance of playing imports on it are a major turn-off to me.  I'm also used to being able to play any game at 333mhz.  Can't do that with a Go.  I'm used to being able to play any game out of my PSOne library on my PSP.  Can't do that with a Go.  I'd like to be able to see the battery life when playing.  Can't do that with a Go.  I'd like to be able to change the battery if I'm on a really long trip with no way to use an AC.  Can't do that with a Go.  I'd like to be able to charge my system while playing on TV-out.  Can't do that with a Go.  I love being able to play Neo-Geo, CPS1-2, NES, SNES, Genesis, and GB/GBA games on my CFW PSP.  Can't do that with a Go.  It's nice to know that if I wanted to, I could access stuff like Youtube on my CFW PSP.  Can't do that with a Go.  I can keep going if you'd like.

I am just taking a wait and see approach with the system; I still think it's ultimately going to bomb.  Plus there's those PSP 4000 rumors.  I love being able to play the Go with a PS3 controller (great for TV-out), but that's hardly enough of a reason for me to buy one.  I have about 50 or so UMDs; most of those games aren't even on PSN for download, and it's stupid to sell a ton of those off just to re-purchase them for play on another version of the same hardware. 

Had they provided a solution for UMDs, I'd be all over the Go.  They didn't.  They fucked up.

[huckleberry]

I pretty much agree with all your points - I was turned off too.

However, unlike you, I have no self control  :'(

[Eel O'Brian]

what's the bet on how long it takes to get this thing cracked wide open?  i'm guessing 3 months

[Third]

I'll buy one when cfw is available.

Why?

Because it's my money.

Why should you -or anyone else- care?

[Eel O'Brian]

i'm thinking the crack will have something to do with the media go software it's tethered to

[Third]

It'll take some time before someone cracks the GO.
By the time someone actually cracked it, I expect the GO to be on its deathbed.
I just hope there will be a pricedrop before it's dead. That's when I'll jump in.

[cool breeze]

My take on the Go is pretty much what Eel said on an old Borecast.  Sony had my money for the next PSP and it was theirs to lose, and somehow they managed to.

and fwiw, I did try out the hardware and it isn't bad.  L/R and the analog nub are a lot better on it.  Regular PSP has L/R kinda straight up and you need to move your fingers a bit towards you to place them; it's a bit uncomfortable kinda like how using the bumpers on the 360 controller are too.  On the Go the L/R are more towards the back and it feels a lot more natural.  The analog nub felt a lot better, like better resistance and more range.  The size of the nub is smaller, which isn't bad, but if they could have the resistance/range of the Go nub and the size of the 3000 nub, that'd be great.  Screen was also really nice and I didn't have a problem with it being smaller.  If the PSP-4000 is just the PSP Go with a UMD slot, I would consider it a lot more.  When it comes down to it, the thing that kills the Go for me is the fact that I can't play my PSP collection on it and would be forced to pay more money for the same games without having a physical copy.

edit: the price also isn't an issue.  It was going for ~$190 on Dell's site a week or two ago. 

[huckleberry]

Sony should realize that if they want people to actually listen to music on it then they should at least disable the Left trigger when the slider is closed.  I tried to use it to listen to the latest Borecast and must have restarted it half a dozen times before I gave up 

[recursivelyenumerable]

So they're not discontinuing the 3000?

[huckleberry]

nope....they are selling both the Go and the 3000 side by side....don't know if that is a good thing or bad really.

[bork]

edit: the price also isn't an issue.  It was going for ~$190 on Dell's site a week or two ago. 

Not anymore.  That was a pre-order promotion.

[bork]

nope....they are selling both the Go and the 3000 side by side....don't know if that is a good thing or bad really.

It's probably the only choice they had.  There's just too many people out there who either can't download games from an online store or don't want to for them to just give up on UMDs.

[Jansen]

what's the bet on how long it takes to get this thing cracked wide open?  i'm guessing 3 months

the 3000 still hasn't been fully hacked so i seriously doubt it