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Re: Battlefield Bad Company 2
« Reply #120 on: January 27, 2010, 07:08:11 PM »
You preorder it. Or at least that's how I got mine, through Gamestop preorder. I would have gone with Steam, but they wanted the full purchase price right away. I want to know how it runs before deciding on a version.

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« Reply #121 on: January 28, 2010, 05:53:20 AM »
fuck man. i really wanna play the pc demo. i may just say fuck it and pre-order on Steam :\
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« Reply #122 on: January 28, 2010, 08:21:02 AM »
You preorder it. Or at least that's how I got mine, through Gamestop preorder. I would have gone with Steam, but they wanted the full purchase price right away. I want to know how it runs before deciding on a version.

yeah, I saw to get it at all you need to preorder at somewhere.  There is supposed to be an actual demo out in February anyway, might as well wait until then to try it out.

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« Reply #123 on: January 28, 2010, 08:24:09 AM »
apparently the multiplayer demo is out for the Xbox 360 too

also, video of PC beta

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« Last Edit: January 28, 2010, 08:27:09 AM by swaggaz »

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« Reply #125 on: January 28, 2010, 10:52:45 AM »
apparently the multiplayer demo is out for the Xbox 360 too

Thanks for the heads up. I just put it in my queueueueueueueue :rock
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Re: Battlefield Bad Company 2
« Reply #126 on: January 28, 2010, 10:57:15 AM »
Game is legit dope.

I'm someone who had a lot of issues with the original Bad Company and pretty much every battlefield game ever on consoles for a whole lot of reasons. They were all substandard imo and I much preferred Frontlines Fuel of War to the original Bad Company for example.

1943 was them sort of proving they could finally do a good console game imo and this is a refined version of that. It plays like Bad Company but it has a lot more of the improving gameplay philosophy 1943 showed. Enemies don't take a ridiculous amount of bullets to kill like in the first, better squad management, dumping a lot of the relic legacy PC stuff that I never liked for a more accessible and fun experience. Fun stuff and that demo pretty much made it an instant buy for someone who was a bit skeptical and doesn't even like that assault mode in the demo.

Graphically a mixed bag for me. For all the praise this game gets on that front, I honestly don't think it looks all that at least on consoles. The frame rate is 30 but with drops when things get hectic it can get quite choppy. And my god the screen tearing. Some of the worst I've seen in a long time.

The Lag and connection though was very good. Very little lag. Felt nice on that front. So basically I'm set with both this and MW 2 on the shooter front until Fall. Both very good titles. Both very different in a lot of ways.  
« Last Edit: January 28, 2010, 11:01:07 AM by Stoney Mason »

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Re: Battlefield Bad Company 2
« Reply #127 on: January 28, 2010, 11:22:49 AM »
Is the aliasing still hideous on the 360? I only tried the PS3 beta and it was baaad.

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« Reply #128 on: January 28, 2010, 11:32:14 AM »
Is the aliasing still hideous on the 360? I only tried the PS3 beta and it was baaad.

It has a lot of graphic issues. I also don't care for the film grain effect they use. Between that, the screen tearing, and how it can get hectic frame rate wise, the game just has a bit of a muddy look to me. It's also a big adjustment for me going from a game that tops out on 60 in the frame rate department to one that struggles to keep 30. Totally understandable since BC 2 is an open world large scale environment, with vehicles and a slightly higher player count. But still performance is performance. I'm not someone who cares about graphics much but I am sensitive to frame rate.

This is one of those titles where the PC sku REALLY benefits a great deal because of the anti-aliasing, & much higher frame rate that would improve the feel and control of the game.

Still I want to emphasize how fun it is. It really is a real fun experience and I can't wait to play conquest on it.


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« Reply #129 on: January 28, 2010, 11:43:37 AM »
Wait, there is a film grain in the 360 version? The PS3 beta didn't have that filter. I also don't recall many framerate issues, but that may just be my failing memory.

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« Reply #130 on: January 28, 2010, 12:12:33 PM »
Wait, there is a film grain in the 360 version? The PS3 beta didn't have that filter. I also don't recall many framerate issues, but that may just be my failing memory.

It's whatever their lighting is. It looks like its going for some grain effect to me. I just called it film because that's what most games call it but it whatever it is grain, or lighting, I'm not a fan of it. It contributes to the muddy effect for me.
 
As far as frame rate there are definitely drops. I'm not saying its unplayable or extra unusual for a console game or an open world game but as I mentioned when you go from playing another game that is way above it in frame rate terms it was definitely noticeable to me. Nothing to put me off the game in either case. Just saying.
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« Reply #131 on: January 28, 2010, 12:17:29 PM »
And now I can't seem to connect to a game at all. (25 attempts in a row just failed)

Sigh.


Hopefully this doesn't turn into another 1943 "we don't have enough servers" situation.

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« Reply #132 on: January 28, 2010, 12:37:49 PM »
downloading pc beta

here's the best link i found for anyone, keep trying until it works - i'm getting 600kb+:

http://hosted.vgames.co.il/bf/bfbc2/BFBC2_PC_ClosedBeta_RC1_511270_Client.zip

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« Reply #133 on: January 28, 2010, 12:39:07 PM »
godamnit. i guess i'll just fucking get it on steam
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« Reply #134 on: January 28, 2010, 12:48:38 PM »
and i just did. i hate myself
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« Reply #135 on: January 28, 2010, 01:01:54 PM »
I just pre-ordered the 360 version today. Pre-orders are getting the LE version at the same price or that is all GS is getting to sell.

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Re: Battlefield Bad Company 2
« Reply #136 on: January 28, 2010, 01:08:49 PM »
Wait, there is a film grain in the 360 version? The PS3 beta didn't have that filter. I also don't recall many framerate issues, but that may just be my failing memory.

It's whatever their lighting is. It looks like its going for some grain effect to me. I just called it film because that's what most games call it but it whatever it is grain, or lighting, I'm not a fan of it. It contributes to the muddy effect for me.
 
As far as frame rate there are definitely drops. I'm not saying its unplayable or extra unusual for a console game or an open world game but as I mentioned when you go from playing another game that is way above it in frame rate terms it was definitely noticeable to me. Nothing to put me off the game in either case. Just saying.

Hmm. I just don't remember the PS3 version having anything filter-like at all. There was aliasing, but other than it was pretty clean. Can't compare them, but I don't remember all that much screen tearing either. Maybe it's a map thing.

200kB/s torrent  :gloomy

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« Reply #137 on: January 28, 2010, 04:45:44 PM »
i got a fucking code 40 minutes after i bought it on Steam


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Re: Battlefield Bad Company 2
« Reply #138 on: January 28, 2010, 04:52:20 PM »
wait, so i can't test out how this game is gonna run on my rig unless i preorder it?
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« Reply #139 on: January 28, 2010, 05:03:27 PM »
Played it on the 360. It rawks. Join us Eel, on the dirty console, where the air is crisp.
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« Reply #140 on: January 28, 2010, 05:38:48 PM »
I think I'm going to hold off on playing this until tomorrow, hopefully some of the issues will have been resolved by then.  :gloomy

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Re: Battlefield Bad Company 2
« Reply #141 on: January 28, 2010, 06:01:27 PM »
gah i have a full weekend and won't be able to touch this until next week
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Re: Battlefield Bad Company 2
« Reply #142 on: January 28, 2010, 06:14:04 PM »
I think I'm going to hold off on playing this until tomorrow, hopefully some of the issues will have been resolved by then.  :gloomy

If you mean the 360 demo, it seems to be working now.

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Re: Battlefield Bad Company 2
« Reply #143 on: January 28, 2010, 06:20:49 PM »
PC version. It keeps crashing when I go into the server list, and Play Now doesn't work. I just want to see how it runs; if it's not smooth and pretty, I'll have to go with the PS3 version. Although, I may end up getting that version too, even if this becomes the primary.
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« Reply #144 on: January 28, 2010, 07:34:09 PM »
wait, so i can't test out how this game is gonna run on my rig unless i preorder it?

iirc there is an actual demo that will be out on February

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« Reply #145 on: January 28, 2010, 07:42:02 PM »
server browser is fucked
play now doesn't work


beta  :gloomy :gloomy
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Re: Battlefield Bad Company 2
« Reply #146 on: January 28, 2010, 07:46:53 PM »
Yeah, well, beta

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« Reply #147 on: January 28, 2010, 07:53:45 PM »
yeah, at least you can see the browser.  I don't have a key.

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« Reply #148 on: January 28, 2010, 07:56:22 PM »
yeah, at least you can see the browser.  I don't have a key.

Just preorder from GS, and then cancel the preorder.

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« Reply #149 on: January 28, 2010, 08:01:25 PM »
yeah, at least you can see the browser.  I don't have a key.

but i cant see the browser. it crashes to desktop :(
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Re: Battlefield Bad Company 2
« Reply #150 on: January 28, 2010, 08:15:04 PM »
Just preorder from GS, and then cancel the preorder.

im going out to do this right now

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« Reply #151 on: January 28, 2010, 08:19:29 PM »
Finally managed to join a game, which thanks to :piss matchmaking :piss2 landed me on some French server, so I had a hard time getting much of a grasp of anything thanks to the ridiculous lag. The game ran surprisingly well on my system, High detail @ 1280x720, although I think I may dial it down to medium for playability.

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« Reply #152 on: January 28, 2010, 08:24:24 PM »
i just called every gamestop in toledo and nobody has any 360 beta keys :(

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« Reply #153 on: January 28, 2010, 08:36:57 PM »
i just called every gamestop in toledo and nobody has any 360 beta keys :(

It's only for online preorders.

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« Reply #154 on: January 28, 2010, 08:45:22 PM »
wait theres a demo up on xbl

ok now im confused

why would you want to preorder if you can just dl it

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« Reply #155 on: January 28, 2010, 08:48:32 PM »
uh. this game doesnt run well. don't know why. it's major stuttering. not consistent bad frames but stuttering constantly. why. what the hell
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« Reply #156 on: January 28, 2010, 08:58:28 PM »
wait theres a demo up on xbl

ok now im confused

why would you want to preorder if you can just dl it

Because one is a dirty demo of a dirty console shit version from gimped hell, and the other a beta for The Glorious PC Version of Plenty.

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:shh A magnificent version that is currently somewhat tainted by an inaccessible server list.
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Re: Battlefield Bad Company 2
« Reply #157 on: January 28, 2010, 09:19:55 PM »
I wish I could move the spot button to a more primary button. My thumb ends up clicking the guide button sometimes which leads me to die.

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« Reply #158 on: January 28, 2010, 09:21:17 PM »
Is the spot spam still in the game? It got a bit ridiculous in the PS3 beta, as you could basically just spam the button in the general direction of the enemy, and a bunch of triangles would appear.

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« Reply #159 on: January 28, 2010, 09:25:40 PM »
Is the spot spam still in the game? It got a bit ridiculous in the PS3 beta, as you could basically just spam the button in the general direction of the enemy, and a bunch of triangles would appear.
I'm not sure...

I do a lot of spotting because its helpful and free points so I'm constantly hitting it. Sometimes it seems to pop up immediately and sometimes it seems to take awhile so maybe there is something where it says if you are spamming it, do a delay...

I'd have to play more. I was also on a big building so I had good line of sight so spotting them was pretty easy.

I wish there was a little tutorial thing like in 1943. That was really useful to practice around with and learn things, without having to experiment in an actual game. But I guess I should just say fuck it and not take the demo seriously and just use it as a glorified practice mode to figure things out.

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« Reply #160 on: January 28, 2010, 09:47:11 PM »
Played a match and a half on the PC version.  It was pretty fun.  Ran pretty smooth with everything at max, 4x AA and AF, 1680x1050.  60 with drops.

Things I hated: no prone.  Low FOV is even worse when I'm sitting this close to the monitor.  Terrible awful lag.  KB/M helicopter controls; I don't remember them being this bad in BF2 using WSAD+Arrow keys for the times I didn't have my flight stick.

Edit: HBAO off increases performance a lot.  60+ locked now.

will buy if there is a steam 4-pack and I can get it for around 33.
« Last Edit: January 28, 2010, 09:53:18 PM by swaggaz »

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« Reply #161 on: January 28, 2010, 09:53:50 PM »
I might hook it up to the TV later, should be interesting. As it is, it certainly looks better on PC, but it's nowhere near as drastic a difference as I thought it would be. I'm going to spoilertag the next bit because it's so dirty

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I miss using a controller. Gunplay feels so much better with rumble.
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This may well end up being a PS3 purchase after all

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« Reply #162 on: January 28, 2010, 10:21:56 PM »
wtf how is everyone playing this at max with good performance? i play on medium and the stuttering is horrible.
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Re: Battlefield Bad Company 2
« Reply #163 on: January 28, 2010, 11:06:45 PM »
ok this is fucking fun

just played for over an hour straight

my only complaint is that the rounds go on for so long

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Re: Battlefield Bad Company 2
« Reply #164 on: January 28, 2010, 11:20:22 PM »
Just tried the 360 demo. It's okay, but you need a group of people you know or who will actually talk to play this game. Everyone on my team was doing their own thing.

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« Reply #165 on: January 29, 2010, 12:26:55 AM »
Just tried the 360 demo. It's okay, but you need a group of people you know or who will actually talk to play this game. Everyone on my team was doing their own thing.

Give it a bit, and you will find groups that fight to complete the objectives (while other dudes do the exact opposite). It works well even without direct communication, since the canned chatter is so bloody good.

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« Reply #166 on: January 29, 2010, 01:57:25 AM »
It's a very enjoyable game but Battlefield never provides any more teamwork than any other game when you are playing with randoms.

This includes people not using vehicles and instead running halfway across the map
People staying in one spot to camp vehicles
Playing on a team full of snipers so spawning on squad is often useless if you have a sqaud full of snipers (which is often)
People not understanding that it's not a death match game and to win you actually have to do things beyond killing the other team.

etc, etc.

Very fun game. But it promotoes teamwork on average no more than any game and I've played most of the battlefield games on consoles. (I won't speak to PC since I only played 1942 a good deal on that platform which was a decade ago now). Like any game if you want "teamwork" you play with people you know.

I played for about 2 hours in total today. There wasn't a lick of "teamwork" in any game I was in but it was quite enjoyable.
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Re: Battlefield Bad Company 2
« Reply #167 on: January 29, 2010, 02:22:45 AM »
When does this come out? I know a few people here will be getting it for the 360, so I might pick it up too. I like it much more than 1943. I'm happy I passed on it.

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« Reply #168 on: January 29, 2010, 02:43:32 AM »
Well, my experience with the game is vastly different from yours, then. I experienced some of the strongest team work I've ever experienced in a game, and that was on a system where the majority of players were dead quiet. There was certainly also a lot of bullshit like morons going off to do experience boosting in some corner, but this was well above ordinary for a shooter.

I think the first few days were rough much thanks to the appeal of destruction. A few sessions in, and people were less interested in hijacking the nearest tank just to blow up the nearest building, and more interested in actually completing objectives.

The most annoying thing was, and always has been, the vehicle campers. This is especially bad in a game that gives you a limited crop of the most useful vehicles, but it's my experience that these people will scurry off if you call them on it.
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Re: Battlefield Bad Company 2
« Reply #169 on: January 29, 2010, 03:20:21 AM »
beezy cannot drive

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« Reply #170 on: January 29, 2010, 03:27:48 AM »
:lol

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Re: Battlefield Bad Company 2
« Reply #171 on: January 30, 2010, 12:51:20 PM »
BoresquadTM Demo Night tonight?
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« Reply #172 on: January 30, 2010, 01:00:28 PM »
I'm down. I like this game.
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Re: Battlefield Bad Company 2
« Reply #173 on: January 30, 2010, 01:01:23 PM »
I'll play although honestly I'm still learning and getting use to it. Just send an invite if you see me on this evening.

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« Reply #174 on: January 30, 2010, 01:05:48 PM »
I'm down. I like this game.
Word. They even added some control concessions, like mapping crouch to analog instead of B button, and melee to bumper instead of Y button. Makes it more like most other shooters.
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« Reply #175 on: January 30, 2010, 01:06:16 PM »
Yeah, I had to get used to that.

... Also, that nasty filter from Bad Company is gone. It's a lot more fluid, although lag and such is still an issue - pretty much standard for Battlefield at launch on the Xbox 360. EA will fix it in a week, maybe two.
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Re: Battlefield Bad Company 2
« Reply #176 on: January 30, 2010, 02:31:40 PM »
BoresquadTM Demo Night tonight?
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« Reply #177 on: January 30, 2010, 02:36:02 PM »
p.s. don't let beezy drive
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Re: Battlefield Bad Company 2
« Reply #178 on: January 30, 2010, 02:42:48 PM »
I'm a one man army. Having other people near me *cough*Willco*cough* brings me down. 8)

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« Reply #179 on: January 30, 2010, 02:46:06 PM »
So what he's trying to say folks, is that when he's the only person in a squad, he's the best person in the squad by default. Congrats, bro.
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