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« Reply #60 on: October 29, 2009, 04:30:48 PM »
OMG

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My launch 360 red ringed just as soon as I booted this up.  It loaded the menu, then it was purple and black checkers with someone saying "hey".  I turn it off and on again, and bam, three red lights  :lol

Amazing.  :bow 360 :bow2

what is the standard protocol for handling a red ring these days?

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« Reply #62 on: October 30, 2009, 02:30:39 AM »
I haven't been liking it as much as Lost and Damned so far.  I played a good few missions and nothing has been really wild as seen in the trailer.  The characters are great, though.  I already like most of them more than any from vanilla GTA4 or Lost and Damned.  I'm most disappointed that I'm stuck driving cars again.  The bike in Lost and Damned was so good, and now I'm back to the bad driving from vanilla GTA4.

apparently the manual claims that this is the last of Liberty City.  They already tease the next game and have an unrecognizable image hinting at the next location.

Dream locations

Rio
Japan
Back to San Andreas (love the laid back West Coast feel of the original)

I just hope they break away from the "stick inside the city" mentality. The non city shit in San Andreas rocked <3

I still think the most awesome but unrealistic would be Europe done in a San Andreas style.  So you have mini-France, mini-Germany, mini-Italy, etc.

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« Reply #63 on: October 30, 2009, 02:48:46 AM »
apparently the manual claims that this is the last of Liberty City.  They already tease the next game and have an unrecognizable image hinting at the next location.

What location.

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« Reply #64 on: October 30, 2009, 03:40:24 AM »
apparently the manual claims that this is the last of Liberty City.  They already tease the next game and have an unrecognizable image hinting at the next location.

What location.

apparently the manual claims that this is the last of Liberty City.  They already tease the next game and have an unrecognizable image hinting at the next location.

OMG

 :rofl :rofl :rofl

My launch 360 red ringed just as soon as I booted this up.  It loaded the menu, then it was purple and black checkers with someone saying "hey".  I turn it off and on again, and bam, three red lights  :lol

Amazing.  :bow 360 :bow2

what is the standard protocol for handling a red ring these days?

Christ. I had this right about when I started playing the first GTA IV. What the hell did they put in the RAGE that kills 360s?

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« Reply #65 on: October 30, 2009, 08:30:30 PM »
man this game has some the worst gunplay and cover systems I have ever played, I remember why GTAIV sucked so bad now.

Still the story and characters are pretty good and engaging
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« Reply #66 on: October 30, 2009, 08:48:47 PM »
What's killing me about TLatD now that I've got a working disc again, is the main character's default movement is a gamboling walk that feels like pushing a sack of potatoes through mud. A lot of work for very slow progress. In order to move any distance at speed, you also have to hold A Button to run, or repeatedly tap for sprinting. I keep forgetting to do that, and by default I'm making Johnny casually stroll around active gunfire scenes.  :-X When I /do/ remember to run, I usually hit RB in a panic, the Saints Row run button, which is not commonly helpful; that's the GTA IV "cover" button, and if there was some cover around, I wouldn't be running.

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« Reply #67 on: October 30, 2009, 09:14:34 PM »
yeah, I'm remembering how much I hate the driving and shooting playing Gay Tony right now.  The two hardest missions so far were a helicopter one and a precise driving one.  It's like driving a shampoo filled car on the moon.  One bump and suddenly the car is flipping out all over the place.

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« Reply #68 on: October 30, 2009, 10:29:09 PM »
I just played a mission and some races, and am beginning to remember that I liked GTA IV just fine... except for only having the story and races to do. The world is really well-realized in graphics, sound, and ambient NPCs. The bike races are pretty fun, though I'm still sucking at the driving model, it's nice to not fall of the bike as much. Despite some big riding mistakes, the only time I've been thrown off the bike is from ass-ending a taxi at top speed.  :P

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« Reply #69 on: October 31, 2009, 02:32:01 AM »
They really glue you to the seat in Lost and Damned.

And I finished Gay Tony.  The game parts of Lost and Damned were better, but Gay Tony had genuinely great characters. :bow Yuseef :bow2  :bow Arab money :bow2

From the straight playthrough of Gay Tony and Lost and Damned, it's about ~18-20 hours of gameplay.  There are drug wars and base jumping diversions I haven't done yet.

I don't know if I made it clear there, but Lost and Damned was 8-10 hours and Gay Tony is 8-10 hours. They're together on the disk that's $40 (or $30 on amazon, at least last week it was).
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« Reply #70 on: October 31, 2009, 03:07:37 AM »
Sounds good.  I'd probably get sick of GTA after 20 hours.
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« Reply #71 on: October 31, 2009, 08:03:34 PM »
Blowing up the yaht with the helicopter? No problem.  Blowing up those 3 speedboats aftward?  Fucking ridiculous.

Someone give me some lock-on missiles or something.  I'm wasting all my money on hospital visits.
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« Reply #72 on: October 31, 2009, 08:56:55 PM »
Blowing up the yaht with the helicopter? No problem.  Blowing up those 3 speedboats aftward?  Fucking ridiculous.

Someone give me some lock-on missiles or something.  I'm wasting all my money on hospital visits.

Yeah that mission took me an embarrasing number of attempts. Although it is still quite difficult its easier to shoot those boats with the heli guns rather than try to rocket them.

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« Reply #73 on: November 01, 2009, 12:02:37 AM »
I'm not finished with Gay Tony yet, but I've already put in 9 hours and I still have a bit to go. The only real extras I do are the drug wars because I like them. Good value for $20 bucks again like Lost and the Damned. This is the way all DLC should be value proposition wise when it isn't just multiplayer maps or something like that.

I think I'll probably clock in around 15 hours like I did with TLAD.

I'll post my thoughts when I'm finished.

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« Reply #74 on: November 01, 2009, 01:13:40 AM »
drug wars like in chinatown?
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« Reply #75 on: November 01, 2009, 01:18:42 AM »
drug wars like in chinatown?

Nah. I wish.  :D

They are basically just simple action missions. Go retrieve a stash of drugs (A duffel bag) and take it back to a safehouse. You unlock some weapon stuff by doing them.

There are a few activities like base jumping, the fight club (which sucks unfortunately), multi-vehicle races (meaning you parachute down into a boat and then race the boat to a car and then race in that to a checkpoint. (those are kinda cool), drug wars, and club management which is just kind of weird.
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« Reply #76 on: November 01, 2009, 01:43:42 AM »
Base jumping / the parachute in general is awesome.  It really made me want Just Cause 2.

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« Reply #77 on: November 01, 2009, 09:05:54 AM »
I love how over the top some of the missions have been so far.  Gay Tony gives GTA4 some much needed personality. It's like a return to the San Andreas or Vice City days.

I'm enjoying this much more than Lost & Damned, which was good, but too nihilistic for my tastes.
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« Reply #78 on: November 01, 2009, 11:33:30 AM »
apparently the manual claims that this is the last of Liberty City.  They already tease the next game and have an unrecognizable image hinting at the next location.

Dream locations

Rio
Japan
Back to San Andreas (love the laid back West Coast feel of the original)

I just hope they break away from the "stick inside the city" mentality. The non city shit in San Andreas rocked <3
Am I the only one hoping for a return to Vice City?
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« Reply #79 on: November 01, 2009, 11:37:43 AM »
I want a new location or back to London (or somewhere else in Europe.)  Also hoping they do something in the 70s.

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« Reply #80 on: November 01, 2009, 12:05:13 PM »
Am I the only one hoping for a return to Vice City?

Enough of that shit.  It's time for them to pick/make a new location. 
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« Reply #81 on: November 01, 2009, 05:43:33 PM »
drug wars like in chinatown?

Nah. I wish.  :D

They are basically just simple action missions. Go retrieve a stash of drugs (A duffel bag) and take it back to a safehouse. You unlock some weapon stuff by doing them.

There are a few activities like base jumping, the fight club (which sucks unfortunately), multi-vehicle races (meaning you parachute down into a boat and then race the boat to a car and then race in that to a checkpoint. (those are kinda cool), drug wars, and club management which is just kind of weird.


Really? Thats great! Maybe they learned their lesson finally, that players don't mind side missions, but some kind of reward is necessary.

I picked up Gay Tony, played for about 40 minutes. The characters do seem more in line with old GTA style ones. I decided to go back and finish Lost and Damned first, but I might not stick with that if there's a special Gay Tony multiplayer mode and you chaps are playing it.

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« Reply #82 on: November 02, 2009, 06:28:16 PM »
I've got a question about one of the missions -

What exactly do I need to when I'm fighting with the Russian gangsters against the police in the underground parking garage?  I exploded the remote explosive on the car but then it just seems there's an unending wave of police that I'm fighting against.  When I try to get into a car to escape none of the other douchebags get in with me so I'm forced to get out and waste literally all my ammo on the cops and then dying in the process.  I'm assuming there's something else here I need to be doing.
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« Reply #83 on: November 02, 2009, 08:21:39 PM »
"Mori!" HAH. I was expecting some Japanese guy. I'm stoked to see a return to this kind of crass humor.

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« Reply #84 on: November 03, 2009, 01:50:25 AM »
I've got a question about one of the missions -

What exactly do I need to when I'm fighting with the Russian gangsters against the police in the underground parking garage?  I exploded the remote explosive on the car but then it just seems there's an unending wave of police that I'm fighting against.  When I try to get into a car to escape none of the other douchebags get in with me so I'm forced to get out and waste literally all my ammo on the cops and then dying in the process.  I'm assuming there's something else here I need to be doing.

You need to kill everyone in the garage,then your companions will run outside,follow them,battle a little,get in a car and escape.
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« Reply #85 on: November 03, 2009, 02:33:11 PM »
Thank you!

So there's an eventual end to the swarms of cops, eh?  At least now I know I'm not missing anything.
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« Reply #86 on: November 03, 2009, 03:55:14 PM »
this shit is on a disc? like i dont have to own GTA4 to play it? fuck. i'm renting it
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« Reply #87 on: November 09, 2009, 01:29:21 AM »
fuck yeh bith just finished the main Gay Tony storyline. TBH it was fucking awesome, fun varied missions, heaps of hilarious jokes and a really likable cast, with a villain who you just wanted to see get fucked up. Yusuf was awesome. "Im the fucking cobra of the skies! I fly with my cobra wings!" The finale was epic. This is GTA how it's supposed to be. Fun.

Got a lot of the achievements, just need the drug wars one and the 100% ones which will take a bit of work. I was relieved to find out that you dont have to complete all the targets in one run for 100%s for missions. i.e you can do a speed run, then go for headshots etc.

Im probably going to play through Lost and Damned now (much easier to 100%) then go back to Gay Tony for the 100%ing. Or maybe I should try and 100% Gay Tony now while its still fresh in my head.... ahhhh decisions. Doesnt help that this is a bumper month for new releases :( Im actually keen to pick up a copy of GTAIV now that its cheap.... only got around 30% through. Is GTAIV a cunt to 100%? Are there any fucking awful collectathons?
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« Reply #88 on: November 09, 2009, 01:30:27 AM »
"Mori!" HAH. I was expecting some Japanese guy. I'm stoked to see a return to this kind of crass humor.

:bow Mori :bow2

edit: why did I post twice? now my long post is one the previous page  :'(
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« Reply #89 on: November 09, 2009, 02:18:11 AM »
fuck yeh bith just finished the main Gay Tony storyline. TBH it was fucking awesome, fun varied missions, heaps of hilarious jokes and a really likable cast, with a villain who you just wanted to see get fucked up. Yusuf was awesome. "Im the fucking cobra of the skies! I fly with my cobra wings!" The finale was epic. This is GTA how it's supposed to be. Fun.

Got a lot of the achievements, just need the drug wars one and the 100% ones which will take a bit of work. I was relieved to find out that you dont have to complete all the targets in one run for 100%s for missions. i.e you can do a speed run, then go for headshots etc.

Im probably going to play through Lost and Damned now (much easier to 100%) then go back to Gay Tony for the 100%ing. Or maybe I should try and 100% Gay Tony now while its still fresh in my head.... ahhhh decisions. Doesnt help that this is a bumper month for new releases :( Im actually keen to pick up a copy of GTAIV now that its cheap.... only got around 30% through. Is GTAIV a cunt to 100%? Are there any fucking awful collectathons?

I got yo' back, bruddah. Here is your long post for enjoyment, and a response to go with it:

Yeah, so far The Ballad of Gay Tony is just about what I was expecting GTA IV to be at launch. Outrageous humor, crazy action, and driving physics which are more fun than believable. If they'd just replace the back-alley arms dealer stuff with AMMU-NATION (:rock) I'd be wholly satisfied.

I'm convinced that even the driving model has been friendlied-up substantially, because I refuse to think I'm this good at the driving model so many months out of practice after finishing my 100% run and Liberty City Minute runs on the original GTA IV. Seriously, I could never figure out why they upped the difficulty on driving so heavily for IV while keeping the same stupid auto-lock-on shooting gameplay. Saints Row and Mercenaries doesn't aim for you, and their gameplay is not unmanageably difficult by any means.

In TBoGT I'm up to 40 Drug Wars missions, and it's unlocked two weapons for me so far. Side missions with in-game rewards for completion? It's like they answered my biggest complaint about the game.

Collect-a-thon in IV is pretty much the pigeons. Oddly, I enjoyed shooting them; they had visual and sound cues for finding them, and exploded in a satisfying manner.

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« Reply #90 on: November 10, 2009, 11:03:33 AM »
Finished 50/50 Drug Wars missions. I didn't get the final "weapon unlocked" message, because the game trips over itself to auto-save/display mission results/blit unlocks all at once.
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Supposedly a gold uzi is given at 50, same as Yusuf has. I suspect like the exploding shotgun shells, it won't show up until the story missions have provided one to the player.
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Side note: Exploding shotgun shells will FUCK UP VEHICLES. So, as a rule, don't use them against cars you're hoping to drive away. I accidentally shot a Drug Vehicle and accidentally compressed the ass end of it so badly that it wouldn't move. The wheels were wedged into the body at a weird angle. Physics simulation! :rock

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« Reply #91 on: November 10, 2009, 02:32:01 PM »
The PC version of GTA4 just got a patch that adds Lost & Damned achievements.
Looks like the exclusivity is up soon.
(The first sign was last month, when Gamestop listed the strategy guide for Episodes from Liberty City as for PC, 360 and PS3)

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« Reply #92 on: November 10, 2009, 06:24:41 PM »
How weird that they even excluded another MS platform from the exclusivity to begin with; I guess the contracts were plenty fun to complete with only the two console platforms.

However, does that mean it will open up to PS3, or that MS is exercising some other clause to have it expand to their other viable platform?

I'd just been assuming that the standalone disc was Rockstar's solution to not being able to /ever/ offer the DLC on PS3.

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« Reply #93 on: November 10, 2009, 06:33:42 PM »
Are there any more episodes in the pipeline?  I hated vanilla GTA4 but I have heard good things about the expansions.

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« Reply #94 on: November 10, 2009, 08:10:52 PM »
How weird that they even excluded another MS platform from the exclusivity to begin with; I guess the contracts were plenty fun to complete with only the two console platforms.

However, does that mean it will open up to PS3, or that MS is exercising some other clause to have it expand to their other viable platform?

I'd just been assuming that the standalone disc was Rockstar's solution to not being able to /ever/ offer the DLC on PS3.

I'm sure it'll be announced soon for PS3/PC as both.

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« Reply #95 on: November 10, 2009, 08:32:04 PM »
Are there any more episodes in the pipeline?  I hated vanilla GTA4 but I have heard good things about the expansions.

This has been my experience so far:

-GTA4: Meh.  Problems abound, Saint's Row 2 fucking kills it, etc etc.
-The Lost And The Damned: Feels a little better than GTA4.  Characters aren't really particularly memorable or likeable so far.  Less you can do in comparison to the original game.
-The Ballad Of Gay Tony: Tried it briefly after being frustrated with another awful Lost mission.  Seemed MUCH better, likeable characters, smoother game play, etc.  I may just skip The Lost And The Damned and go right to Gay Tony if things keep up the way they have been going in Lost.
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« Reply #96 on: November 10, 2009, 09:26:35 PM »
Hmmm.... I've got mixed feelings on this one.

I sort of reached a wall sadly where I put this one on the back burner because there are simply a lot more better games out now at the moment which sort of says something...

I like it, but I don't like it as much as I wanted to nor do I like it as much as GTA 4 or the Lost and Damned and I was a big fan of both of those. The missions seem less well balanced and designed than TLAD. And the main character isn't as compelling as Niko so it suffers in comparison to both of the other titles imo.

It doesn't help that the controls which were just good enough for TLAD and GTA 4 to squeak by now seem downright frustrating in comparison to some of the newer cover games (Uncharted 2 for example) along with helicopter controls which have always been my least favorite of the GTA missions in any game.

I'll post a more a thoughtful "review" of the game once I finish but with some of the other games currently out, that could be awhile. Probably have to wait until xmas vacation to play this one.
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« Reply #97 on: November 10, 2009, 11:23:01 PM »
Storytelling-wise, TBoGT has been pretty great; a return to over-the-top form in some ways, but even better than any other GTA stories in many others. GTA IV, they wanted to tell an immigrant's story, and slowly introduce the whole sprawling entity of Liberty City. With TBoGT, I've been a little weirded out and impressed by the number of ways they convey Luis' character -- I'm not talking about the "Oscar-caliber" writing of the overall story arc, but how much Luis is a product of Liberty City.

There are booty calls instead of dates. It says something about Luis that he just goes up, bangs a chick, and leaves. No dates, no bowling, no food, no drinks, no small talk. He gets texts from Dana -- I don't even know who Dana is; she's faceless, never appearing in cutscenes, or including her face in pictures. Luis also nails them in the toilet of La Maissonette in a few cutscenes. He goes through women like kleenex. So to me, the insipid and pointless date function has been meta'd into the pointless way Luis uses women.

Then there are those "pedestrian" missions; I did my first one for TBoGT, and it was some clingy chick that Luis had been dodging. I'd never seen her before, but it was clear that Luis had. Later on, I checked the internet cafe for an unrelated mission, and there were some more mails from the same character, predating the pedestrian mission.

In GTA IV's Nico storyline, it frequently felt like the non-specific nationality foreigners were all dropped in the same stage. Gay Tony has been doing a very good job of reinforcing Liberty-City as a place, and Luis as a person -- with a life of his own which happened in LC. I feel like I've been dropped in the middle of something.

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« Reply #98 on: November 11, 2009, 01:12:28 AM »
Luis is just striaght up cool IMO. He uses the word 'bro' a lot too so I can really relate to him lol

This 100% achievement sucks ballz, Ive 100%ed the first few missions but some of the time limits are pretty harsh and theres a bit of trial and error. I think Im going to have to do some more Drug Wars to build up my arsenal, Im always needing those fucking sticky bombs

Either that or play something else lol
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TGL: So far you’ve worked on two games, The Getaway and Bully, would you be open to composing for other games in the future?
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« Reply #100 on: November 11, 2009, 03:38:42 AM »
 :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

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« Reply #101 on: November 11, 2009, 04:18:40 AM »
HOLY SHIT. I almost got up and danced around in a circle.

At work.

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« Reply #102 on: November 11, 2009, 08:27:21 AM »
Bully 2 :rock

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« Reply #103 on: November 26, 2009, 03:56:16 AM »
Um, I am playing this too. GTA4 is not Lost and Damned or Gay Tony. GTA4 is trash.

Sup bros, just updating this

Lost and Damned and Gay Tony are garbage, nothing has changed.
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« Reply #104 on: November 26, 2009, 05:33:12 AM »
You realized that it's all just more of the same?

I'm such a little Pavlovian mutt: all they had to do was add side missions with unlockables, and I started salivating like crazy.

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« Reply #105 on: November 26, 2009, 05:36:56 AM »
What's wrong with TLAD:

Horrible story, horrible AI, horrible concept

What's wrong with Gay Tony:

Horrible story, horrible theme (Not the homos, the mexicans), distinguished mentally-challenged main character, TONS of fucking people calling you to hang out, distinguished mentally-challenged side missions

Flat out -bad-
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« Reply #106 on: November 26, 2009, 07:13:20 AM »
I admit, the Drug Traffic (or whatevs) were repetitive, but I enjoyed a few scenes of emergent goofball play.

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« Reply #107 on: November 26, 2009, 10:39:26 PM »
I swear I'm being trolled every time I play this.

So I'm doing "Ladies Night" mission. Follow a car in a helicopter.

What's wrong from the getgo:

- having to drive a horribly controlled helicopter

So I have to be patient. I can try.

Now I get to follow the car. What's this?

- No marker indicating the car, but rather, using some fixed camera angle that shows the car amidst hundreds of other similar cars. No arrows, no nothing.

Is this intentional? Do the designers make this and NOT sit back and play this? It's like one giant troll to the entire industry.
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Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
« Reply #108 on: November 26, 2009, 11:23:16 PM »
coming from saint's row 2, this kinda blows.  :(

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Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
« Reply #109 on: November 26, 2009, 11:23:53 PM »
I wish I could just ban everyone who likes this game. From life.
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Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
« Reply #110 on: November 27, 2009, 12:45:33 AM »
lol. You going to go for the percentage cheevs in Gay Tony demi? If you hate the game you'll haaaaaaate those. Stupidest achievements Ive seen in a while
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Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
« Reply #111 on: November 27, 2009, 06:48:28 AM »
coming from saint's row 2, this kinda blows.  :(

Coming from SR2, what kills me every time is the movement. The basic movement. It feels like moving through molasses. It's like they were so stoked to make something that looked like realistic movement that they forgot to check if it was fun to actually move around. Trying to move the character on foot, you basically HAVE TO pump the A Button to get any kind of acceptable movement speed, unless you're trying to replicate cinema verité.

Let me repeat that for emphasis: standard on-foot movement requires constant button-chording or buttonmashing in addition to stick movement. WTF were they thinking?

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Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
« Reply #112 on: November 27, 2009, 01:00:35 PM »
gay tony is the most overrated expansion pack ever

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Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
« Reply #113 on: November 27, 2009, 03:08:51 PM »
coming from saint's row 2, this kinda blows.  :(

Totally.  I just cannot get into the game and doubt I will keep it for much longer.
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Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
« Reply #114 on: November 29, 2009, 04:02:03 AM »


All done

btw, I lost respect for anyone who enjoys this shit. So try your best not to acknowledge it.
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Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
« Reply #115 on: November 29, 2009, 04:25:07 AM »
if you dont like it then why force yourself to play the damn thing

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Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
« Reply #116 on: November 29, 2009, 09:40:18 AM »
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All done

btw, I lost respect for anyone who enjoys this shit. So try your best not to acknowledge it.
Then by that token, you should hate yourself more than those who enjoy it, because you're doing something for recreation that you don't even like.

By the way, I'm crazy impressed; there are already a couple missions where I don't think I'll be able 100% them. If it's just "mop-up" the remaining checkboxes, as Scenester says, I might be able to, but I'll not be getting any of them in a single run, I think.

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Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
« Reply #117 on: November 29, 2009, 12:19:58 PM »
Neither this nor Lost and the Damned are spectacular, but both are still better than Return to Liberty City. Plus, $40 :hyper

if you dont like it then why force yourself to play the damn thing
ACHIEVEMENTS ACHIEVEMENTS ACHIEVEMENTS ACHIEVEMENTS ACHIEVEMENTS ACHIEVEMENTS
demi should play WoW
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Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
« Reply #118 on: November 29, 2009, 07:14:14 PM »
What's "Return to Liberty City"? Are you just referring to vanilla GTA IV?

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Re: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir
« Reply #119 on: January 25, 2010, 05:35:46 AM »
>>I've been playing a metric ass-tonne of Ballad of Gay Tony, and am happy with it.

The humor has been restored to the series with the Gay Tony storyline, though both DLC packages' heavy tie-ins to the main GTA IV story are an unwelcome effort. I've had enough of Nico and those diamonds during IV's main storyline. The whole "see how we planned this all along?" vibe during the diamond sequences is masturbatory.

Other than that, I was happy to see Brucie back and disturbed as ever, his brother Mori was great, as were Gay Tony and his abusive boyfriend, and Yusuf Amir was probably the best GTA character this generation. As for Luiz, overall it was nice to have a protagonist who isn't wallowing in existential angst over what it means to be a killer but Luiz didn't really make me feel good or bad about playing, he's just a guy who goes through life without thinking much about his place in it. That's fine, but the level of story present in San Andreas, or even Vice City Stories was not in evidence.

I am really not sure about going back and 100%-ing the missions. There are just too many ways to screw up during a mission, or to be screwed. Getting 80% of the way through a perfect playthrough toward a specific goal, such as time-attacking it and then getting hosed by some tiny, random incident -- it's not fun. I am enjoying that the missions were totally fun, and I'm wanting to play through them without using a Retry, but doing them 6 or 7 times is going to rub off what lustre has been returned to the series for me.