Super Street Fighter IV Arcade Edition 2012 Update Now Up!

[bork]

I'm in, as long as I'm not paired with RoboJ.

Okay, you can go up against me first. 

[Beezy]

I'm down.

I'm in, as long as I'm not paired with RoboJ.

Okay, you can go up against me first. 

[Robo]

I'm in, of course!

[The Fake Shemp]

Oh god.

[Akala]

WTF, Akala?  You said you were gonna get the 360 version this time.   

I was!

I'll pick it up sometime this week, I'm in this time.

[iconoclast]

I'd be up for it.

[The Fake Shemp]

Guess who joke broke 1,000 PP and brought his W/L ratio to 50%?

This guy.

[bork]

Hey Robo, if you want to do a handicap and not use Bison, I won't use Chun-Li.  Then maybe people won't be shitting their pants.   

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We can just use Guile instead and destroy them all.

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[The Fake Shemp]

Guile is for breeders

[bork]

Okay, never mind.  Robo J versus Willco is set.

[Rman]

Can we invite non forum members to the tourney?

[bork]

Can we invite non forum members to the tourney?

Let's see how many people we can get here first.  Last time I did that a couple of people flaked off, which was really fucking annoying.

[The Fake Shemp]

Okay, never mind.  Robo J versus Willco is set.

Why must you kick me out in the first round?

[Beezy]

There will be a losers bracket, loser. See you there.

[Raban]

I'm in!

[Enl]

Do I smell Tourney? So in.

[Robo]

I was gonna use a secondary anyway unless someone hands me my ass.  Just so happens that secondary is GUILE. 

[Bacchus7]

I'm down.

[Beezy]

I was gonna use a secondary anyway unless someone hands me my ass.  Just so happens that secondary is GUILE. 

Guess I can't go all Bison. Time to suffer with Makoto again.

[Robo]

My Guile isn't that good yet.  If you play the match-up right, you can stomp me pretty handily.  I understand how to play the match-up, but like so many Guile's I've annihilated in the reverse situation, I'm at somewhat of a loss once I start getting rushed down.  Just gotta be patient and wait for the opportunity.

[Raban]

Probably just gonna pick Juri or T.Hawk and get my shit ruined.

[Beezy]

My Guile isn't that good yet.  If you play the match-up right, you can stomp me pretty handily.  I understand how to play the match-up, but like so many Guile's I've annihilated in the reverse situation, I'm at somewhat of a loss once I start getting rushed down.  Just gotta be patient and wait for the opportunity.

That's good to know.

I'm still gonna see if I can get past Makoto's problems this week. If not then I'll try Sakura (most fun shoto imo) or Chun. Maybe Cammy.

[Robo]

I got my first ever Super Street Fighter 4 hate mail today.  Just a simple "fuck u bitch", but it's the thought that counts, anyway.

[bork]

Man, I love going up against guys that have no clue what to do against the most basic of attacks.

I played a 4800 BP dictator user who just kept jumping up in the air with FP/doing devil's reverse against my 0 BP T. Hawk.  Sadly this beat me the first round, but then the second round I just did jumping HKs which knocked him out of his bullshit.  BUT HE KEPT ON DOING IT ANYWAY.     One down. 

Next match, I pick Rose for the first time in SSF4.  I get a 2800 BP Abel player.  For some reason, he has no idea what to do against her slide, so that's pretty much all I did the entire match.  I beat him effortlessly doing slides, crouching MKs, and hitting her ultra 1 both rounds.  Shit was just .  Glad you can save replays now!

[Raban]

Hey Lyte my friend mains Rose now and I'm trying to figure out what punishes slide, since when he does it if he doesn't follow it up with an attack he just grabs (I told him your tactic from when we played). What DO you do against the slide?

EDIT: btw if you wanna play some Super matches this time I'm so down. I can promise 10 straight matches, no rage quitting.

[Raban]

Guess not :'(

[bork]

The final matches I played tonight were nice n' satisfying.  I join a room with a Dudley player and try Rose again.  He beats me pretty easily.  Then I pick T. Hawk.  Mr. confident picks the training room as the stage.  I beat him in the match, although by a hair.  Then another dude joins and beat his Juri with Chun-Li.  Then the Dudley guy is back up and picks dictator.  I'm Chun again.  In the last round, he's got the lead and is beating me, and then stops and taunts me.  I'm able to then get in close enough to poke him enough and go for the EX legs into ultra...but I miss the timing and the ultra comes out too slowly.  Fortunately he's in the corner with no life left, and gets up right into the ultra which is still going.   

Hey Lyte my friend mains Rose now and I'm trying to figure out what punishes slide, since when he does it if he doesn't follow it up with an attack he just grabs (I told him your tactic from when we played). What DO you do against the slide?

Depends on who you are using.  I wouldn't be letting the slide happen in the first place and would be ready to counter-throw when it does, although there is more you can do out of the slide than just throw.     The guy I was talking about that I was sliding against the whole time, BTW?  I didn't throw much...he literally just sat there and took low attacks the entire match.   

EDIT: btw if you wanna play some Super matches this time I'm so down. I can promise 10 straight matches, no rage quitting.

LOL.  Sorry mayne I was playing PS3.

[iconoclast]

A blocked slide is -6, so it's punishable. Just do a BnB jab combo unless you're playing a character with slow normals. Or just tech his throw.

Speaking of chip damage wins, I FINALLY got the title for 30 "cheap wins" (aka win with chip) after like 500 matches online. It was the last title I needed for the achievement and it took foreverrrrr.

[The Fake Shemp]

I got my first ever Super Street Fighter 4 hate mail today.  Just a simple "fuck u bitch", but it's the thought that counts, anyway.

Today was a first, I got both one piece of hate mail when I went from 430 PP to 1100 PP (back down 900 PP after playing with Cody for awhile) and one piece of APPRECIATION mail from a guy thanking me for a good, fun match.

[bork]

I got hatemail yesterday from a guy with "no excuses" as his motto.   

Hawk is fun, fun, fun.  Beating down scrub-shotos feels good man, but it's still really difficult for me to do well with him against people who have a clue.  Still can't believe how people have 3000-5000 BP in ranked and just suck...who the hell are they playing that's worse than they are!?

[Rman]

Man, I love going up against guys that have no clue what to do against the most basic of attacks.

I played a 4800 BP dictator user who just kept jumping up in the air with FP/doing devil's reverse against my 0 BP T. Hawk.  Sadly this beat me the first round, but then the second round I just did jumping HKs which knocked him out of his bullshit.  BUT HE KEPT ON DOING IT ANYWAY.     One down. 

Next match, I pick Rose for the first time in SSF4.  I get a 2800 BP Abel player.  For some reason, he has no idea what to do against her slide, so that's pretty much all I did the entire match.  I beat him effortlessly doing slides, crouching MKs, and hitting her ultra 1 both rounds.  Shit was just .  Glad you can save replays now!

Yeah.  I love trolling shotoscrubs with the ''lesser'' characters.  Is it me or are the flowchart Kens worst than ever? It's so easy to bait them into their FP Shoryukens after a knockdown.  Come on, guys, you've had a year to get good and you're still using the same tactics. 

[bork]

Flowchart Kens disappeared for quite a while in vanilla SF4.  My guess is they lost interest and have come back for more punishment in SSF4, but they'll be gone soon enough.   

[bork]

Just had my first SSF4 ranked match rage-quitter, a 360 player named "Kenhiryu."  I was T. Hawk and he was Claw...in the last round, he messed up and I was doing my ultra to end the match, and he RQ right when I hit it. 

Edit: His response:


Yes, he happened to hit the eject button by accident.

[Robo]

I had a guy rob me of a perfect a few days ago by rage-quitting.  I sent him a message that said, "u mad?", but he never responded.

[bork]

Everybody give a round of applause to THE FAKE SHEMP!  He is currently ranked #434 in BP IN THE WORLD with T. Hawk!  2767 points. 

I'm about to hit 1000 with him after another couple of matches.  Hawk is mad fun, but FUCK do some characters just own him for free.  I still don't know how to approach Gouken with him.

With Chun-Li, I'm at ranked #676 in BP; 2926 points.  I'm happy because I have the most BP with her out of everyone on my friends list.   

[The Fake Shemp]

... Yeah, there's a few characters that are basically impossible to fight. I now have a strategy against Bison that works most of the time, but I think RoboJ will find a way around it. Gouken is still an enigma for me. Guy, as well. Dhalsim is also a major pain to play as T. Hawk, since he can effectively keep me on the other end of the stage.

Cammy was a problem initially, because she has that sweet kick that effectively keeps a lot of my attacks at bay, but since she has no long rage attacks, I can afford to sit and wait.

[The Fake Shemp]

I am on a Street Fighter hiatus, since the game popped a blister on my thumb and has rubbed the skin raw. Street Fighter has taken a physical toll on my body!

[Robo]

T.Hawk is pretty underutilized on XBL, so I have next to no experience playing against him.  All I know is to stay out of command throw range, don't try to punish condor spire, and that a blocked condor dive is a free Ultra.  Beyond that, just mash standing roundhouse --basically the anti-Zangief strategy.

[iconoclast]

I haven't had any ragequits yet and only one hatemail about "being cheap" . Good community for this game so far. I've got 19 characters up to C rank I think, over half way finished for that final achievement. I managed to get back up to 2400+ PP too now that I'm using characters I understand somewhat, but I figure that will drop once I start ranking up guys I never play. Oh well.

[bork]

Damn it Willco, quit being a baby, tape that shit up, and get back to it!   

T.Hawk is pretty underutilized on XBL, so I have next to no experience playing against him.  All I know is to stay out of command throw range, don't try to punish condor spire, and that a blocked condor dive is a free Ultra.  Beyond that, just mash standing roundhouse --basically the anti-Zangief strategy.

One thing I found playing a Bison today was that a blocked scissors = free SPD.  Not sure if there's only certain situations for it or not yet, however.  I didn't have any problems beating some Guy players though.  Gouken basically has all the tools needed to shut down Hawk COMPLETELY.  With the condor dive, you gotta be careful; like Robo said, against some characters, a blocked dive is a free ultra.  Keep them guessing if you're going to do it and earn the timing against fireball characters and you will be able to safely hit them. 

I haven't had any ragequits yet and only one hatemail about "being cheap" . Good community for this game so far. I've got 19 characters up to C rank I think, over half way finished for that final achievement. I managed to get back up to 2400+ PP too now that I'm using characters I understand somewhat, but I figure that will drop once I start ranking up guys I never play. Oh well.

It's certainly far less rage-quitting and hate mail than I got in SF4, that's for sure!

I'm still hovering around 2000 PP.  If I just stick to Chun, I could get it up there, but I like to try various characters in ranked for whatever reason.

[Robo]

A deep scissor kick is a free SPD, but at max range, I think it's just out of throw range.

Against Zangief, you never really have an opportunity to land scissors anyway because Dictator can't jump on him with ANYTHING without eating a lariat, so I'm not entirely sure.  That match is all zoning and escape.

[iconoclast]

Bison's LK scissors is safe on block (unless he does it point-blank for some reason), but his MK and HK scissors are punishable. Though from what I can tell, you can hit a reversal 720 Ultra on him from a blocked lk scissors if he doesn't neutral jump or backdash immediately. A regular 360, super, and EX 360 all whiff.

For ranked matches, as soon as I get someone to 1000 BP online (aka C-rank) I dump them and switch over to someone else. It's helped me learn a little more about some characters, but for the most part I just use basics and bnb combos since that's all I know for most of the roster. Once I get the achievement I'm just going to stick to the two or three characters I always use.

[bork]

I took part in the NeoGAF SSF4 Team Tourney that's still on-going.  Our team got knocked out in the first set due to Gutabo's INSANE E. Honda.  He could have easily OCV'd our entire team!

Here are the matches.  If you watch mine, you'll see that I fuck up and miss certain key points when I could have comboed into the ultra or missed doing the axe kick.  I still think I did pretty well considering how sick I was that night!

Set 1

Everybody does their part.  I thought I wasn't even going to get a turn in this set until I saw how brutal Gutabo was with Honda.

Grifter (Akuma) vs Axis (Sakura)


Grifter (Akuma) vs Eissan (Ryu)


XblackvegetaX (Rog) vs Eissan (Ryu)


XblackvegetaX (Rog) vs Gutabo (Honda)


lyte edge (Chun Li) vs Gutabo (Honda)


Set 2

I started off and took out the other two team members by myself, but then here comes Gutabo to DESTROY US ALL!   :

lyte edge (Chun Li) vs Axis (Ibuki)


lyte edge (Chun Li) vs Eissan (Ryu)


lyte edge (Chun Li) vs Gutabo (Honda)


Grifter (Dee Jay) vs Gutabo (Honda)


XblackvegetaX (Rog) vs Gutabo (Honda)

[Robo]

I'll check these out when I get home --youtube doesn't want to stream for me at work at the moment.

Here's some video of me playing extremely poorly at a Baltimore tournament I attended on Saturday: http://www.justin.tv/xanadugames/b/263750101

About 26 minutes in, Cody (Rugal.B) vs. shit-tier Dictator.  My execution is all over the place, combined with nerves and frustration: no good. 

[bork]

"Kids obviously cheering on Bison in the background...kids love Bison!"   

Honda really seems beefed up now.  He was never a problem for me in SF4 after I learned I could just cross him up all day long.  Doesn't seem to be anywhere near as effective now.

Robo, I hear ya on the nerves thing, man...and I just do online tourneys!     I need to work on it because I just end up doing the most basic shit to feel "safe."

[BamYouHaveAids]

stick just arrived and now i'm churning out ultras like a teenager's prostate during summer vacation!

my execution really sucks on the left side though. uphill battle ahead.

[iconoclast]

Nice matches lyte and Robo. Honda might not have the greatest tools in the world but he is an absolute powerhouse. One good combo with him and you're going to be hurtin' for certain. The Bison/Cody rounds were all close, it could have gone either way really. And FADC slide is completely forgot they added that to SSF4.

I don't have any videos of me playing, but I did beat Darksydephil in a match back when SF4 was new (Blanka (dsp) vs Bison (me)). He never uploaded it though. :'(

[Robo]

I started doing some silly stuff after I missed a number of basic links.  And I have a tendency to play very hurried and reckless when I play tournaments for some reason.  I can sit back and zone all night if I'm playing casually, but the moment the pressure is on, I tend to just start rushing that shit down without regard to how well it's working --as illustrated in the video by my countless attempts to jump on Cody's unbeatable anti-air. 

There were some really amazing players there and I definitely need to work on my game some more before next month.

[originalz]

All right, I've been playing this game quite a bit and think I've gotten the hang of it.  Despite my best efforts, I gave up on Makoto.  She just doesn't fit in this game, I don't even know why they put her in, her style of play doesn't work that well in SF4 and she didn't seem to receive anything to make up for it.  I've been watching some high-ranked Makoto players in the replay channel and they have to work really hard for their wins, she just has too many bad matchups.  Both of her ultras also have shit damage.

Ibuki though, she's finally lived up to the potential that she had in SF3!  She's replaced Blanka as my main, very fun character to use and a lot of moves that can be adapted to many different situations.  I spend most of my time in the air throwing knives at people, good way to force them to you and catch them off guard.  With the good dashes and backflips you can really disorient your opponents, and you can play a good high-low game with her neckbreaker or kickoff moves.  Her ultras do good damage, and her EX moves also do a lot of damage.  She's also fantastic for beating Sagat, haha.

[Robo]

When are we lookin' to get this tournament off the ground?  I think my Guile is about ready for action! 

[bork]

When are we lookin' to get this tournament off the ground?  I think my Guile is about ready for action! 

Soon, soon!  I want to give people more time.

[Robo]

Some guy sent me a message last night after a Dictator match:

"nice turbo", and then "havent met a person who can link lk lk lk i know u cant"

...referring to Bison's cr.short, cr.short, cr.short, cr.short xx scissor kick link.  I assume he doesn't think I can do it consistently because I was playing like a total re-re, execution aside.

[Akala]

When are we lookin' to get this tournament off the ground?  I think my Guile is about ready for action! 

Soon, soon!  I want to give people more time.

picked it up on 360 today. you know what? I take back everything I said about the tekken stick.

[The Fake Shemp]

Is that Hori stick worth $50?

[Akala]

if you mod it, sure!

[The Fake Shemp]

But not OTB?

[Akala]

which hori sick are you talking about?

it should be fine OTB, but if it's the one I'm thinking about, they are clicky and breaky.

[CurseoftheGods]

Anyone wanna play a few matches on the PS3?

Tag is CurseoftheGods.

Just played with Jinfash. He plays a good Dudley.

[bork]

PS3 Bores, add "lyteedge2" to your lists.  I've been playing SSF4 under that account.

[The Fake Shemp]

which hori sick are you talking about?

it should be fine OTB, but if it's the one I'm thinking about, they are clicky and breaky.

The wireless Tekken one?