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« Reply #13080 on: December 29, 2016, 07:59:39 AM »
The end of the OA was garbage, I'll be sure to mentally mark the people involved in the fuckeroo boat

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« Reply #13081 on: December 30, 2016, 03:56:18 AM »


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« Reply #13082 on: January 01, 2017, 05:44:07 PM »
Finished Black Mirror. I don't think the last episode (Hated in the nation) works very well as a pseudo cop procedural but I liked it went for a good SF hook this time. Series is incredibly well done (though it has its lows) but I can't help to worry that they ran to the ground some premises already (notably augmented reality / digital recordings of vision & memory) in only a dozen episodes.

Started watching Dirk Gently, the BBC America/Netflix/Max Landis version. I'm afraid of the bait & switch "Just do anything zany without a real endgame to keep viewers watching" and the bizarreness is on the nose too, but so far (3 episodes) I'm still in. Fiona Dourif (daughter of Brad, yes) is fairly amazing in this.
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« Reply #13083 on: January 01, 2017, 05:49:15 PM »
I guess I need to try the oa even though it looks kinda dumb?

Also finished season 2 of schitts creek. Another great season IMO. Sincere but funny in a natural way. Plus David's wardrobe :drool :fabulous
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« Reply #13084 on: January 02, 2017, 04:05:14 PM »
You can add The Expanse to the growing list of shows I wish I would have waited to get into until there was more of them

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« Reply #13085 on: January 03, 2017, 06:10:11 PM »
Watched the two first episodes of the mini-series Tokyo Trial a NHK-Dutch TV-Netflix coproduction, about the Nuremberg counterpart for the Pacific War. As you would expect the cast is an international patchwork of solid second fiddles and odd choices : S.Keach lending his voice to the narration, M.Ironside as MacArthur, David Freeman (Bellocq in Raiders of the Lost Ark), Irrfan Khan (Slumdog Millionaire), Stephen McHattie, Serge Hazanavicius (brother of Michel, the director of The Artist) and japanese punk director Shynia Tsukamoto (!) playing the writer of the Burmese Harp.

The subject matter is riveting, the show... leaves a bit to be desired so far. It's not an easy proposition as they decided to keep, probably out of respect for the history (and consideration for their budget), all of the black & white footage of the court proceedings and charged individuals. To not break the visuals, the actors playing the judges are also shot in some phoney black & white "damaged" stock when in court, it's not the best.

The major issue so far however is that everything from the political implications to the personal granularity is treated piecemeal and it all makes for a rather superficial treatment of the political & legal arguments with cookie cutter characters (obligatory soviet judge strong arming the court on pure political grounds). The point would have been better served by taking more liberties with the source and maybe focusing on one aspect through a more streamlined unity of drama -for instance one major meeting with all the key legal arguments in depth-. Because so far it's all stiff and overly academic (including a grading perfectly aligned with current trends... and little personality).
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« Reply #13086 on: January 03, 2017, 08:50:03 PM »
The world is a better place with The OA having been created. I just finished it and yeah, it's uhhh... Uh huh. But I really like it.

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« Reply #13087 on: January 04, 2017, 03:09:38 AM »
Just started The OA tonight; first half felt like a billion disjointed things they'd never get into a coherent whole, second half had me riveted. Alice Krige has aged well, and happy that Walking Dead's Dale is working. Making Brit Marling look that mannish took some effort, I suspect. She's a handsome woman, but rarely that manly.

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« Reply #13088 on: January 04, 2017, 08:39:02 AM »
Watched the two remaining episodes of Tokyo Trial. All in all it makes a decent job at presenting the key debates around the Nuremberg and Tokyo courts and it avoids presenting too monolithic a picture. Still felt it was shallow in parts.
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« Reply #13089 on: January 05, 2017, 01:17:03 AM »
Just started The OA tonight; first half felt like a billion disjointed things they'd never get into a coherent whole, second half had me riveted. Alice Krige has aged well, and happy that Walking Dead's Dale is working. Making Brit Marling look that mannish took some effort, I suspect. She's a handsome woman, but rarely that manly.

Three more episodes tonight. I'm hooked. Lucius Malfoy is doomed to never be a good guy, but he's good at being a bad guy, so that's good. I hope they can actually make this work, but I'm still concerned this will be like X-Files or LOST, where it turns out no-one really had a solid world built in which to house the story. Still: fingers crossed.

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« Reply #13090 on: January 05, 2017, 01:24:57 AM »
Buffy the Vampire Slayer gets an amazing upgrade in quality and budget in Season 2.

If you ever watch the OT Star Wars films back to back, you immediately notice the HUGE visual upgrade between A New Hope and Empire Strikes Back. That's basically what Buffy Season 2 is like after the first one.
You're right, s1 is kind of garbage. The worldbuilding and stuff starts in earnest in s2.

It kinda peaks in s3, and stays good through s5. I'm not sure if I should have stuck with it after the transition to its new network in s6, but I'm muddling through it.

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« Reply #13091 on: January 05, 2017, 09:18:52 AM »
The worst season of Buffy is where she goes to college and the big bad is some Frankenstein Monster guy named Adam that lives in a secret laboratory under the college
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« Reply #13092 on: January 05, 2017, 10:36:56 AM »

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« Reply #13093 on: January 05, 2017, 10:56:51 AM »
Buffy the Vampire Slayer gets an amazing upgrade in quality and budget in Season 2.

If you ever watch the OT Star Wars films back to back, you immediately notice the HUGE visual upgrade between A New Hope and Empire Strikes Back. That's basically what Buffy Season 2 is like after the first one.

I also think they upgraded from 16mm film to 35mm and it makes a HUGE difference. s1 is a muddy, blurry mess on DVD. :lol

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« Reply #13094 on: January 05, 2017, 11:01:19 AM »
The worst season of Buffy is where she goes to college and the big bad is some Frankenstein Monster guy named Adam that lives in a secret laboratory under the college

Yes, this is correct. Which makes these posts wrong:

You're right, s1 is kind of garbage. The worldbuilding and stuff starts in earnest in s2.

It kinda peaks in s3, and stays good through s5. I'm not sure if I should have stuck with it after the transition to its new network in s6, but I'm muddling through it.

S3-5 is really where the show is at it's best. I have nostalgia for the first two seasons but they don't really hold up. S6-7 is just pure trash.

s2 is a little iffy, and it feels cliched today, but if you're a new viewer you have to keep in mind how groundbreaking it was at the time. And the central plot still holds up IMO.

s3 was a little unfocused in comparison IMO. But it was more fun.

s4 is worse than anything during the UPN run.

s5 is the best season if you can get past Dawn (which you should.) Best Big Bad too, which must have been hard to do after s4's.

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« Reply #13095 on: January 05, 2017, 01:18:55 PM »
With tasty on this one.

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« Reply #13096 on: January 05, 2017, 02:38:38 PM »
I'm sure everyone at the bore besides me is above watching schlock like this, but Ahnold is pretty ridiculous on apprentice :lol

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« Reply #13097 on: January 07, 2017, 02:46:00 PM »
The 11th season of Its Always Sunny is now out on Netflix.

It's time they take this show out behind the woodshed.  I'm guessing they will keep pinching these seasons out since most of their careers have stalled except Kaitlin Olson, who is playing Sweet Dee in another sitcom that she is starring in.
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« Reply #13098 on: January 07, 2017, 02:49:35 PM »
:piss
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« Reply #13099 on: January 07, 2017, 04:00:45 PM »
It's already renewed through season fourteen. :smug

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« Reply #13100 on: January 07, 2017, 05:19:12 PM »
Finished watching Dirk Gently, Holistic Detective Agency and it didn't crash as I feared, it was in fact surprisingly solid though the hook for season 2 is exactly the sort of sequel setup I am skeptical of (there's a whole government conspiracy frame hanging there and as in The X-Files or anything else it is used in, you know it will get shit and convoluted the instant they'll have to explain it for real). As I read in a number of places, Max Landis does have a tendency to use and abuse violence as a magic ingredient but it didn't harm the tone of the show too much. Overall it's a cool premise to throw all manners of exciting SF concepts and zany adventures at a breathtaking pace : It's only 8 episodes with over a dozen characters so there's a lot going on. Speaking of characters, they're fun, interesting and the cast is obviously enjoying itself (Props to Fiona Dourif and Samuel Barnett).

Give it a try.
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« Reply #13101 on: January 07, 2017, 05:32:07 PM »
I enjoyed it a lot as well though I am not as hard on Landis as some.

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« Reply #13102 on: January 08, 2017, 06:48:33 PM »
I liked the OA  :-[

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« Reply #13103 on: January 08, 2017, 08:37:35 PM »
I am hiding this under spoiler cuz of the shame

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I got hooked on that fucking Netflix Dreamworks cartoon Troll Hunters. I am not sure why. The main character is a mary sue. His character flaw for the plot is that he's not a troll.

However, it's a bit like a Whedon show where the mythos is kind of fun and the side characters are good. They even got me a little invested in the life of a psychotic gnome named Chompsky.
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« Reply #13104 on: January 08, 2017, 10:09:40 PM »
Troll Hunters pretty good when it doesn't fall into tropy kids cartoon stuff. 
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« Reply #13105 on: January 09, 2017, 03:13:12 AM »
I am hiding this under spoiler cuz of the shame

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I got hooked on that fucking Netflix Dreamworks cartoon Troll Hunters. I am not sure why. The main character is a mary sue. His character flaw for the plot is that he's not a troll.

However, it's a bit like a Whedon show where the mythos is kind of fun and the side characters are good. They even got me a little invested in the life of a psychotic gnome named Chompsky.
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« Reply #13106 on: January 09, 2017, 11:42:02 AM »
Always Sunny just had a series great season premiere

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« Reply #13107 on: January 10, 2017, 01:52:22 AM »
The only thing that bugged me about The OA was
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« Reply #13108 on: January 10, 2017, 07:42:51 AM »
The only thing that bugged me about The OA was
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how was Steve at that school that day? Like so we just accept that worked out for him?
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Oh yeah.  I completely forgot about that.   :lol

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« Reply #13109 on: January 10, 2017, 08:40:39 AM »

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« Reply #13110 on: January 16, 2017, 03:31:22 PM »

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« Reply #13111 on: January 16, 2017, 03:40:55 PM »
will watch for Sarah Silverman
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« Reply #13112 on: January 17, 2017, 09:34:32 PM »
Started watching The Good Place. About 4 episodes in. I really like it. It's funny.

Not sure how long you can go with such a premise but its entertaining now at least. The writing is pretty sharp.
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« Reply #13113 on: January 20, 2017, 12:46:48 AM »
Baskets is baaaaaaack

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« Reply #13114 on: January 20, 2017, 04:01:25 PM »
I LOVED the double episode of the good place, it's been a while since I liked a comedy this much

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« Reply #13115 on: January 20, 2017, 05:26:56 PM »
That was one of the best twists in a comedy I've seen in years.

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« Reply #13116 on: January 20, 2017, 07:11:51 PM »
We're mid-Stranger Things and it's a nicely made show. But I'm starting to wonder if even I can get saturated with that now oh so prevalent aping 80's style trend. It's all very well done, mind, and the kids are pretty good (as noted a couple of times here by fellow Boreans) but I'm not sure this will have a very exciting reveal ? I dunno. Being facetious, the thing that most intrigued me so far is the presence of white dust on the title sequence (after reading an interview with the designer : probably one of the effect they layered to mimic the feel of shooting something equivalent on film back then, they added some grain).
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« Reply #13117 on: January 21, 2017, 07:45:09 AM »
Despite previous, proud statements that Supernatural wrapped perfectly with s5, because it's now been added to Japanese Amazon Prime Streaming, I started watching s6 today and ended up catassing 6 episodes while doing housework before moving away from the TV. The show hasn't missed a step. In particular, Weekend at Bobby's was a tightly written, well-directed episode focusing on secondary characters with nicely timed cuts between action happening off-camera. Live Free or Twihard was a timely (yeah, probably trendy) jab at the Twilight boom at its peak, from the perspective of the show's mainstream-yet-dark humor. I'm likely to continue watching it until I hit the end of free streaming content.

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« Reply #13118 on: January 21, 2017, 09:34:06 AM »
You are in for a rough time
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« Reply #13119 on: January 21, 2017, 10:17:08 AM »
It gets bad then it gets good again

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« Reply #13120 on: January 21, 2017, 10:21:40 AM »
ya that curve takes a while though
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« Reply #13121 on: January 21, 2017, 11:35:00 AM »
Despite previous, proud statements that Supernatural wrapped perfectly with s5, because it's now been added to Japanese Amazon Prime Streaming, I started watching s6 today and ended up catassing 6 episodes while doing housework before moving away from the TV. The show hasn't missed a step. In particular, Weekend at Bobby's was a tightly written, well-directed episode focusing on secondary characters with nicely timed cuts between action happening off-camera. Live Free or Twihard was a timely (yeah, probably trendy) jab at the Twilight boom at its peak, from the perspective of the show's mainstream-yet-dark humor. I'm likely to continue watching it until I hit the end of free streaming content.

Don't listen to the above posters. It does dip, and s6 is the lowest point of all 12 seasons so far imo, but even at it's worst SN is still entertaining.

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« Reply #13122 on: January 21, 2017, 11:41:44 AM »
I mean I still love it, it just dips really hard.
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« Reply #13123 on: January 21, 2017, 06:50:46 PM »
Saw a lot of The Young Pope's first ep last night and it was straight up terrible. The costumes and set design were nice obviously, given the subject matter, but everything else was bad. Jude Law, the acting, and especially the writing.
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« Reply #13124 on: January 21, 2017, 07:01:15 PM »
I guess one day I'll judge by myself but I would be a bit miffed the Young Pope is really that bad, considering Paolo Sorrentino's involvement.
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« Reply #13125 on: January 21, 2017, 08:41:06 PM »
It's in line with Sorrentino's other work. It's strange and he gives you zero bracers and throws you right in, immediately. I'm assuming PD has little experience with this kinda work.

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« Reply #13126 on: January 21, 2017, 09:39:40 PM »
Supernatural's whole first season is kind of garbage, and it had a dip or two on its way to s5. Right now I just hit a pacing thing that was either genius or entirely mishandled, and I won't know until I see it addressed (Crowley's plotline and his bones). But I'm liking the way they introduced the players one at a time back into the fold during this season, so I'm probably in for the long haul.


Working through Arrow's s1 still. I am watching it in Japanese for my son's sake, but it means I've missed some of the finer points in the exposition scenes. I'm enjoying this version of Batman (because this is not Green Arrow so much as Bats), with the odd-assortment of Bat-family members around him. He's also pretty human, with human goals and problems, which is nice. I'll admit that I like the more action-oriented tone of The Flash compared to the endless familial drama of Arrow.

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« Reply #13127 on: January 21, 2017, 09:40:21 PM »
It's in line with Sorrentino's other work. It's strange and he gives you zero bracers and throws you right in, immediately. I'm assuming PD has little experience with this kinda work.
you're right. entire tone was just...yikes.
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« Reply #13128 on: January 23, 2017, 11:46:49 PM »
i think the show is wonderful. jude law kills it.

i can see it being extremely hit or miss.

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« Reply #13129 on: January 24, 2017, 01:25:36 AM »
Yea I was ready to ding off on Young Pope but I actually enjoyed the first couple episodes. It's pretty trashy but I thought the writing was pretty solid for the most part.
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« Reply #13130 on: January 24, 2017, 07:19:59 PM »
Finished Stranger Things : good show overall, the story is straightforward and I enjoyed they didn't really spent too much time explaining the supernatural in every detail. The characters have touching stories (especially the little girl, the sheriff and the mother of the missing boy played by W.Ryder), the emotional payoff is effective all around and it applies a surprising spin on a couple of 80's clichés : it's not indebted to its influence to the point of being stale.

I have quite a few issues with the last episode though. It tries to tie all the narrative strings in one neat finale, but it felt forced : a lot of busywork of groups and characters going somewhere just for the sake of superficial movement (but not doing a whole lot in reality) and having a big "action" scene. Not sure what to think of some of the violence in that episode too, there's a dark & nasty sequence...

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...that felt jarring within the larger context of the show. All of the climax also has blinking lights (obviously to help the VFX) to the point of irritation and for some reason there's two epilogues (Peter Jackson's Return of the King style !) with a laborious setup for a second season. It's silly but those last 5 minutes or so really sour the quality of the conclusion.
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« Reply #13131 on: January 24, 2017, 10:56:30 PM »
I love This Must Be The Place. Not sure about The Young Pope tho...
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« Reply #13132 on: January 24, 2017, 11:21:16 PM »
17 episodes in to Supernatural s6 and still enjoying it. It's primarily down to the interaction of the main characters; Dean and Sam and Cassiel are the prime source of entertainment, though their work with Bobby is also so much fun. I was also starting to enjoy the riffing between Bobby and Rufus, and was just thinking about how I'd even watch a Rufus and Bobby spin-off, and then stuff happened that would preclude that pretty definitively. The heel-turns and (moderate) babyface-turns are also enjoyable a recovering wrestling fan.

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« Reply #13133 on: January 29, 2017, 06:40:23 PM »
Finished Supernatural s6, going to roll right into s7. The pacing was off from a season standpoint. The Mother of All villain was shortchanged despite an absolutely out-of-left-field resolution. I liked it, but someone on her power scale, introducing as many new elements as she brought with her, I expected a smarter and longer path to resolution. The way things /did/ wrap was pretty great though. Serious character interaction, and some nice places for Castiel's character to come out beyond simple comic relief. I'm also happy to see the varying ways they're using Crowley; I like Mark Sheppard a bunch, and this character in particular manages to interestingly outmaneuver the boys consistently.


Also finished Arrow s1. The last couple episodes put the accelerator down in surprise developments. Three or four big surprises each time. The show has such a different tone from The Flash, not just the absence of metahumans, but the larger focus on human interaction. Sometimes too much focus on the melodrama. My family was sitting in shock when the credits rolled. We've got s2 queued up for tonight.

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« Reply #13135 on: February 02, 2017, 07:22:39 PM »
Lucifer actually has become really enjoyable. They've done the complete opposite of what I would have expected and thrown out the police procedural stuff as the core thread of the show in favor of deep arcs outright involving angels and demons (rather than dancing around it and having such characters only show up every couple episodes and for finales as they did in the first season) and Lucifer actually dealing with his purpose for existing (which again the first season used more as a foil for plot of the week) and all kinds of scheming and planning against/with God. Also, God's ex who is Lucifer and all angel's "mum" added the other character they needed to weight the show's center firmly in the supernatural stuff.

And Maze getting a job as a bounty hunter and becoming roommate to the cop lady. :lol

It's not the comic and I never expected it could or would be, but strangely, it's somewhat drifted more in that direction that I could have imagined. (The comic abandoned its initial premise to instead chase a central thread regarding God and Lucifer's relationship and a radical shift in the power dynamic.) Glad I stayed with it after the early episodes were broken before they remembered that Lucifer abandoning Hell probably allows for more than wacky hijinks.

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« Reply #13136 on: February 02, 2017, 07:26:35 PM »
Oh word they did Lilith? I keep seeing that it's still going and considering giving it a chance

Edit oh wait I guess that wouldn't be Lilith
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« Reply #13137 on: February 02, 2017, 08:03:04 PM »
She hasn't been named, and is just listed as the human she's inhabited in the credits. They all call her mom, mum, etc.

They have mentioned that Azrael is their sister though a number of times. And they have her blade, who somebody stole, down on Earth, so I have to assume she's going to show up at some point.

I haven't watched the midseason finale from last week yet, apparently they revealed why/how the cop lady is tied to Lucifer, which is kinda early to get that whole thing completely out of the way. Figured they'd drag that on until they were cancelled and had to reveal it in a reddit post.
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« Reply #13138 on: February 02, 2017, 08:42:48 PM »
The Expanse is back. First two episodes retain the quality. Want to pick up the books.

And yeah Lucifer has gone fully into the supernatural part. The psychiatrist is a good side character as well. Haven't caught the past two episodes.

Emerald City is an interesting take on Oz. I feel like D'onofrio is just playing D'onofrio though. He's the same guy he was as Kingpin.

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« Reply #13139 on: February 02, 2017, 11:45:50 PM »
Supernatural s7 has been a mixed bag. Uneven pacing, stutterstop of Sam's PTSD and Castiel's presence.

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Cass going rogue, power-hungry was a neat heel-turn, and sacrificing himself as an act of redemption was touching. Bringing him back in e17 or so, quickly and weirdly revealing him, reincorporating, and then sidelining him was weird. Sam and Dean being willing to leave him in the care of a demon was WTF territory.
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Sam's Satan-is-my-copilot PTSD seemed like it had been proven to be all in his head, but "transferring" it to Cass, and being something which could take an angel out of commission - implausible. If it turns out that Satan was just fucking with Sam and pretending to be only in his head as a game, and then Trojan-horsed his way into Cass? That'd be brilliant. Also, almost certainly a retcon.

The "big bad" of this season, the Leviathans, are generally pretty lame. They're inconsistent in their tone other than callous dismissiveness and a fatal willingness to regularly underestimate Sam and Dean. More than that, the groping way the show tried to tie them to HP Lovecraft is misguided and shows a fundamental misunderstanding of the author's oeuvre. Leviathans are just demons with different weaknesses. A missed opportunity to do a fresh take on that material. They should have just attributed it to a different author, or pastiche of period horror.

Still enjoying the interaction between the characters.

Bobby. Man, that was a rough way to go out. A great episode with more good interaction between Rufus and Bobby, but I seriously haz a sad over Bobby.
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