Author Topic: Windows 7 on my laptop (Read 1211 times)

recursivelyenumerable · « **on:** October 31, 2009, 02:06:56 PM »

I don't find it as nice as on my desktop at work. Windows-left and windows-right aren't as useful because a) there's less space on the display to hold two windows and b) my laptop keyboard only has one Windows key, on the left, so it's necessarily a two-handed gesture, which can be disruptive if I'm not using the computer in sovereign posture.

Also, what is the point of the ribbon in WordPad? I thought the purpose of the ribbon was to aid discoverability in applications with lots of features, as well as results-oriented editing through the live previews etc. Finding things in WordPad isn't exactly a problem and the only live gallery is the colors. The ribbon is a lose here because it wastes space (since only a small part of the tab bar is used, and if the app is maximized only a small part of the individual tab ribbons is used), and -- at least if the menus are small and don't have submenus -- clicking a tab -> clicking something in its ribbon isn't as smooth as clicking a menu -> selecting something in the menu (in Office this is mitigated by the minitoolbar, which you don't have in WordPad).

MCD · « **Reply #1 on:** October 31, 2009, 03:09:22 PM »

whether ribbon is good or not for wordpad doesn't matter, it's all about a unified look for MS applications.

recursivelyenumerable · « **Reply #2 on:** October 31, 2009, 03:21:58 PM »

I don't know that that's a worthwhile goal. Menu-based applications aren't going away, nor should they (for the above reasons), so it's not like the overall cognitive overhead for users will decrease. They'll still have to deal with other apps that are menu-based.

Purple Filth · « **Reply #3 on:** October 31, 2009, 04:20:17 PM »

wait wordpad has the ribbon now?

shows how much i use wordpad

i still don't like that ribbon

Bocsius · « **Reply #4 on:** October 31, 2009, 05:38:50 PM »

Notepad > *

If Microsoft has added ribbon to Notepad I will officially become a smug Mac user.

MCD · « **Reply #5 on:** October 31, 2009, 05:44:48 PM »

I hope they add Ribbon to everything. ^_____^

Reb · « **Reply #6 on:** October 31, 2009, 05:50:55 PM »

Something about a ribbon and my cock.

Draft · « **Reply #7 on:** October 31, 2009, 06:40:26 PM »

Quote from: Bocsius on October 31, 2009, 05:38:50 PM

Notepad > *

If Microsoft has added ribbon to Notepad I will officially become a smug Mac user.

Notepad is unchanged.

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #8 on:** October 31, 2009, 07:05:24 PM »

I'm installing the dual boot tonight. just want to see my steam account again

recursivelyenumerable · « **Reply #9 on:** October 31, 2009, 07:22:13 PM »

installing vs2010 beta 2 now

Bocsius · « **Reply #10 on:** November 02, 2009, 08:57:22 PM »

Got my upgrade disks today. This is taking forever. (On my laptop, my desktop here is sticking with XP.)

I'm approaching the 3 hour mark.

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #11 on:** November 02, 2009, 09:06:33 PM »

Quote from: Kranz Fafka on October 31, 2009, 07:05:24 PM

I'm installing the dual boot tonight. just want to see my steam account again

fuck, my macbook wouldn't make the partition because files couldn't be moved. fuck this, I'll do it on winter break when I feel like screwing around.

recursivelyenumerable · « **Reply #12 on:** November 02, 2009, 09:30:59 PM »

I was having some problems upgrading too, so I said fuck it and did a clean install. If you keep all your data in some kind of sensible structure under your home directory, and have a directory where always keep the MSIs for any apps you install, restoring your system isn't too painful at all. Plus there's something to be said for ...

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There's this principle about moving, when you move from one apartment to another apartment. An interesting experiment is to pack up your apartment and put everything in boxes, then move into the next apartment and not unpack anything until you need it. So you're making your first meal, and you're pulling something out of a box. Then after a month or so you've used that to pretty much figure out what things in your life you actually need, and then you take the rest of the stuff -- forget how much you like it or how cool it is -- and you just throw it away. It's amazing how that simplifies your life

recursivelyenumerable · « **Reply #13 on:** November 02, 2009, 09:36:38 PM »

Oh, and any apps that keep their data anywhere other than in AppData, or have installers that aren't MSIs, should be SHOT DEAD

If I can suffer through MSI authoring, so can you.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #14 on:** November 02, 2009, 09:37:12 PM »

Quote from: recursivelyenumerable on November 02, 2009, 09:36:38 PM

Oh, and any apps that keep their data anywhere other than in AppData, or have installers that aren't MSIs, should be SHOT DEAD

Bocsius · « **Reply #15 on:** November 02, 2009, 09:55:42 PM »

Nearly four hours later... it's running, i'm on the latest reboot after reinstalling software (this time: iTunes). I was hoping this would use less resources and boot faster. Doesn't appear to be the case.

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #16 on:** November 02, 2009, 10:23:47 PM »

Quote from: recursivelyenumerable on November 02, 2009, 09:30:59 PM

I was having some problems upgrading too, so I said fuck it and did a clean install. If you keep all your data in some kind of sensible structure under your home directory, and have a directory where always keep the MSIs for any apps you install, restoring your system isn't too painful at all. Plus there's something to be said for ...

Quote from: James Gosling
There's this principle about moving, when you move from one apartment to another apartment. An interesting experiment is to pack up your apartment and put everything in boxes, then move into the next apartment and not unpack anything until you need it. So you're making your first meal, and you're pulling something out of a box. Then after a month or so you've used that to pretty much figure out what things in your life you actually need, and then you take the rest of the stuff -- forget how much you like it or how cool it is -- and you just throw it away. It's amazing how that simplifies your life

i'm on a macbook, I have no control over any of this

I think I just need to make a disk image, wipe my drive, reinstall OSX, then install windows 7 before loading the image on the mac partition.

i'm not sure if I have that correct, but it's something to that effect. In any case, it's too intense of a process for me at the moment...

muckhole · « **Reply #17 on:** November 02, 2009, 10:51:42 PM »

Quote from: Bocsius on November 02, 2009, 09:55:42 PM

Nearly four hours later... it's running, i'm on the latest reboot after reinstalling software (this time: iTunes). I was hoping this would use less resources and boot faster. Doesn't appear to be the case.

It certainly doesn't load faster, but as far as resources go, it's running smoother on my old laptop than Vista ever did, and programs seem quicker to fire up. I certainly haven't done a nuts and bolts comparison, mind you.

recursivelyenumerable · « **Reply #18 on:** November 02, 2009, 11:12:46 PM »

I never really noticed THE FAST people say they're experiencing with 7, but then I never really noticed THE SLOW with Vista either. I kind of suspect a substantial placebo effect in both cases. It does boot faster for me though, from 60 sec -> 45

I will say that I spent today going back and forth between XP and 7 on similarly specced hardware, and after getting used to the shell on 7 (or even Vista) I find XP's Explorer pretty irritating to use, for both performance and design reasons.

Bocsius · « **Reply #19 on:** November 02, 2009, 11:14:58 PM »

What do I have to do to get my boot time down under a minute? It takes forever for me. A shutdown->restart cycle easily takes 4 minutes, and then I still have to wait for the thing to keep loading even when I finally see my desktop.

Arbys Roast Beef Sandwich · « **Reply #20 on:** November 02, 2009, 11:20:57 PM »

Quote from: Bocsius on November 02, 2009, 11:14:58 PM

What do I have to do to get my boot time down under a minute? It takes forever for me. A shutdown->restart cycle easily takes 4 minutes, and then I still have to wait for the thing to keep loading even when I finally see my desktop.

Did you do a clean install or an upgrade?

Bocsius · « **Reply #21 on:** November 02, 2009, 11:22:00 PM »

Upgrade.

Arbys Roast Beef Sandwich · « **Reply #22 on:** November 02, 2009, 11:35:25 PM »

Probably junk from your previous install. Also, try running msconfig to get rid of unnecessary programs/services that may be clogging up your startup.

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Author Topic: Windows 7 on my laptop (Read 1211 times)