Mass Effect 2 Thread

[Raban]

So basically

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the big decision you had to make in the original Mass Effect regarding Ashley and Kaidan means absolutely nothing?

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Did you ever save the one you left the second time around? They literally have the same exact dialog, word-for-word. Kind of lazy characters on BioWare's part.

[bork]

Yeah, I let

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Kaidan die and kept Ashley since he was always kind of useless in my party.

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[Raban]

Yeah, I let

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Kaidan die and kept Ashley since he was always kind of useless in my party.

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I did that the first time around because I always used Liara, and her abilities are more or less the same as Kaidan's. But eventually I

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left Ashley to die because she was an annoying cunt

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[Ichirou]

Thinking about getting the first one to play through but I'm kind of hesitant since people keep saying it's a shooter, not an RPG. :/

[bork]

Thinking about getting the first one to play through but I'm kind of hesitant since people keep saying it's a shooter, not an RPG. :/

It's an (action-oriented) RPG, but the combat is like playing a third-person shooter.  You can also briefly pause the action to allow your character and command your teammates to use their various abilities.

[Ichirou]

I don't like third person shooters so I guess I'll be skipping this, then.

[Kestastrophe]

PLayed for a few hours last night after I was able to snag the only Collector's Edition they had at Target  . They really tightened up the gameplay and made it harder. You can no longer initiate a power with the wheel and expect it to hit, you now have to aim after initiating the power. This, combined with the mapping of powers, means that they want you to play the game in real-time. It feels weird with no inventory system, but that was a weak point in the first game so I am not missing it. And the collector's armor is weird looking

[demi]

I'm reading Vanguard is neutered to shit on Insane... guess I'll try a different class

What class does most people find comfortable / good here? I'm thinking Sentinel

[Green Shinobi]

Need two quick answers:

I'm starting another Mass Effect playthrough so I'll have a save ready for the sequel. I thought I might look into getting some of the achievements I missed the first time.

For the "use x skill y number of times" achievements, do these have to be triggered by the player character, or can you get them if you order a teammate to use the skill a certain number of times?

Is there really no lesbo sex in ME2? Because I'd like to roll a female Shephard, but I'm not really down with hitting on dudes unless it's on this forum.

[demi]

For the skill achievements, Shepard has to be the one to use them

No lesbo sex

[Green Shinobi]

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

[Solo]

Game is fucking awesome. Better than the first in every regard so far, and the first was my favorite game this gen thusfar.

 

[Green Shinobi]

Okay, so I need AI hacking, Stasis and Neural Shock for my three remaining skill achievements. Is there any way to get all three of those on one character? I have a bonus skill, so if I go with an engineer and throw Barrier on him, will I be able to level Barrier up and get Stasis?

[Third]

This is seriously one of the best games I've played this gen. There's so much shit to do. You finish a mission, two new missions pop up. I don't understand how some people have finished this game in under 20 hours.
I'm 21 hours in and still have to recruit 3 more people and have do some side stuff.

The hacking and bypassing is also very enjoyable and doesn't get old imo.

The levels  are very lineair, though. The galaxy map is huge and all, and you can go wherever you want. But once you enter a world the levels are pretty restricting.

[demi]

Okay, so I need AI hacking, Stasis and Neural Shock for my three remaining skill achievements. Is there any way to get all three of those on one character? I have a bonus skill, so if I go with an engineer and throw Barrier on him, will I be able to level Barrier up and get Stasis?

You should yes

[Stoney Mason]

No lesbo sex

cheeseburger Surprise?

[Green Shinobi]

Okay, so I need AI hacking, Stasis and Neural Shock for my three remaining skill achievements. Is there any way to get all three of those on one character? I have a bonus skill, so if I go with an engineer and throw Barrier on him, will I be able to level Barrier up and get Stasis?

You should yes

I tried. Doesn't work. Looks like I'll need at least 2 1/2 playthroughs to get everything. But it doesn't matter anyway, since I'll never get the "complete the majority of the game with ______" since the sidequests suck so much dick.

[Stoney Mason]

How hard does the game get? I'm mulling over switching to Insanity from Veteran since the first mission in the game has been so ridiculously easy. I had the same problem in the original Mass Effect where I found the hardest difficulty in my first run (Veteran, I believe) still didn't offer much of a challenge.

I'm not super far but Veteran doesn't seem especially hard. It sort of feels like what normal should ideally be honestly. There is also hardcore difficulty which is between Veteran and Insane which you might want to try.

[demi]

> implying Hardcore is in fact, hardcore

[Third]

Casual is very easy. I tried it during a battle.  Not fun.

[Stoney Mason]

The DLC character is available now. Pretty large file. 421 MB.

Anybody with an copy of Mass Effect 2 can now download the free DLC pack featuring Zaeed from the Cereberus Network.

The DLC, known as “The Price of Revenge”, was delayed last night due to reasons unknown.

But it’s out there now, and it’s available.

It’s out on Friday for 360 and PC in the UK. It released yesterday in the US.

[demi]

I bet if Zaeed wasnt delayed we could have got it for free with the fuckup

[fistfulofmetal]

I'm really liking this. A lot. Should probably go watch youtube videos of all the cutscenes from the first game so I can get a full understanding of the story. Anyway. Great game.

also: Tali is strangely attractive.

[Stoney Mason]

Man the combat is really fun. Especially using the biotic stuff.


I have some issues with how they redid the gun loot stuff. I think I would have preferred some combination system between this and the first game and just fix the awful inventory system they had. I think Borderlands shows you can do "lots of guns" and still give that loot feeling and have it be manageable which would have fit perfectly in a game like this.

But like I said, I really enjoy the actual combat when you are in it.  

[Great Rumbler]

I downloaded the DLC with Zaeed yesterday with no problems, already got him in my party and everything.

[fistfulofmetal]

also: Tali is strangely attractive.

A lot of people actually were upset when she wasn't a character you could have relations with in ME1.

i better be able to in this game. cuz i'm angling myself to get into her suit thing.

[demi]

You can fuck Tali

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[Purple Filth]

given what you have said you're gonna be disappointed, but hey at least you can do it now

[Raban]

For those of you who have completed the game, I have a question about a side-quest on Ilium

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Where are all the terminals Liara needs you to hack? I've only found two and I still can't turn the quest in.

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[maxy]

They are all there,keep looking.Also,have a drink.

[Raban]

They are all there,keep looking.Also,have a drink.

I already did. A mystery drink!

[maxy]

They are all there,keep looking.Also,have a drink.

I already did. A mystery drink!

I always get a little drunk when i visit some alien bar
One quest "thing" is there,the rest should be down.

[fistfulofmetal]

I just added Grunt to my crew:

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That little beat was crazy tense. I was worried I would lose him. Didn't know if I should show sternness or be nice. I missed the Renegade interrupt but choose the mean option when right after. Shot him in the gut then face. Luckily he saw that as strength and joined up.

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So far I really want to make Garrus and Tali my permanent crew members. They're my favorite characters.

[ManaByte]

I just added Grunt to my crew:

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That little beat was crazy tense. I was worried I would lose him. Didn't know if I should show sternness or be nice. I missed the Renegade interrupt but choose the mean option when right after. Shot him in the gut then face. Luckily he saw that as strength and joined up.

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So far I really want to make Garrus and Tali my permanent crew members. They're my favorite characters.

I did none of that and he still joined.

[Raban]

Just passed Ilium, probably gonna go to the Krogan planet now. I have a strong feeling I know exactly who I'm running into there

[demi]

MASS ERECT IS HERE

INSANE RUN WHOS WITH ME LETS DO THIS

[Great Rumbler]

"I once knew a man who went THREE DAYS without a Toopari Energy Drink. He got hit by a shuttle!"

[Raban]

Sentinel really is the best class ever. Once you get Throw at a high level, you can just start casting those off one after another.

Just passed Ilium, probably gonna go to the Krogan planet now. I have a strong feeling I know exactly who I'm running into there

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Only if you loaded a save that haves him alive. Otherwise everyone hates the shit out of you except Wrex's brother who sees his death as an opportunity to unite the Krogan and survive.

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Oh I saved him, I loved the character, I just hate how hammy BioWare has to be with cameos.

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Like Garrus being the Archangel. What in the flying fuck? In the first game he was kind of a nerd, not this badass killer with a deep gravelly voice and fuming inner conflict. He had problems, but he was a mature character, not this distinguished mentally-challenged caricature. Fail.

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[Raban]

Sentinel really is the best class ever. Once you get Throw at a high level, you can just start casting those off one after another.

Just passed Ilium, probably gonna go to the Krogan planet now. I have a strong feeling I know exactly who I'm running into there

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Only if you loaded a save that haves him alive. Otherwise everyone hates the shit out of you except Wrex's brother who sees his death as an opportunity to unite the Krogan and survive.

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Oh I saved him, I loved the character, I just hate how hammy BioWare has to be with cameos.

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Like Garrus being the Archangel. What in the flying fuck? In the first game he was kind of a nerd, not this badass killer with a deep gravelly voice and fuming inner conflict. He had problems, but he was a mature character, not this distinguished mentally-challenged caricature. Fail.

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Where else would Wrex be after the last game? He wanted to help his people and since the Krogan factory was gone (and wasn't really a cure), he had to save his people another way: by uniting them under the Urdnot banner.

Additionally, Garrus was always a really solid sniper. If I remember correctly he killed a dude the first time you meet him with a perfect headshot. He was also a big believer in justice, which again made it fairly plausible that he would spend his time going after the ruthless Mercenary squads on Omega.

He's more extreme in ME2 and after hearing what happened to him (which leads into his loyalty mission), it makes sense.

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Bleh. I dunno, I'm just not warming up to it very well.

[ManaByte]

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Garrus was always in my party in ME1 and see no major change to him in ME2.

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[demi]

Going with Infiltrator, sniping from afar could be useful on Insane

[The Fake Shemp]

Garrus + Thane for President

[demi]

This game is so tight. Wow.

[Great Rumbler]

Renegade MC, Zaeed, and Jack looks like a good pick for Team Psycho.

[demi]

Hahahaha, I hacked a safe and it gave me 975 credits. Wow thatll go nice with my 150k starting bonus

[ManaByte]

Money is so easy to come by this time. You never really have to worry about it if you hack everything.

[demi]

The collector armor is AWESOME, its like Guyver

[ManaByte]

I like the Blood Dragon one too. Terminus looks stupid, but the singularity gun is awesome and works good on bosses.

[BamYouHaveAids]

not really liking this anywhere near as much as i liked the first one. think i'll put it on hold until i finish dragon age.

[demi]

Miranda is ugly and she sounds like a distinguished mentally-challenged fellow and she has rabbit teeth. Who here said she was hot? Loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooosers

[ManaByte]

Miranda is ugly and she sounds like a distinguished mentally-challenged fellow and she has rabbit teeth. Who here said she was hot? Loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooosers

Look at Himu's avatar.

[Great Rumbler]

not really liking this anywhere near as much as i liked the first one.

How could you not like ME2 better than the first game? I don't get this.

[BamYouHaveAids]

not really liking this anywhere near as much as i liked the first one.

How could you not like ME2 better than the first game? I don't get this.

I really don't understand how people think this is an improvement. The only real improvement is the shooting mechanic, and I wouldn't even say that makes combat better because of the inclusion of ammo. It may be because I'm an adept, but my current pistol only has 20 shots and I'm always running out of ammo (had to change from Insanity to Normal). The lack of items makes almost all the dialogue encounters insignificant. Normally when I come across a group of thieves or looters I will kill them instead of letting them go as this results in items and cash, but since enemies don't drop items or cash in this game it's stupid to get in a confrontation as all they will drop is an ammo clip (probably not enough to cover the ammo you used to kill them). Also, the planet scanning mechanism is one of the worst designs I have seen in recent memory, I upgraded it and it is still slow as shit, just really tedious. There also seems to be way less dialogue options with your crew mates, it's like they all suddenly took a vow of silence. No option to toggle helmet off and on during dialogue, seems like a stupid oversight as the first game had it. The game just seems like a step back in every way. It's a shooter with rpg elements like DMC and NG are action games with rpg elements, which is fine, I'm just tired of shooters. It looks nice and the cut-scenes are better produced but that only goes so far.

[Stoney Mason]

Had my first crash. I don't think I've ever played a Bioware product that wasn't riddled with them.

 


To be fair I haven't ever played a Western style RPG that wasn't riddled with them.

[demi]

The bonus armor really isnt that good on examination. The default armor suggets you can equip different pieces, while the bonus armor just gives you one giant clump.

Playing on Insane, havent had any trouble, except the AI is dumb as shit, as usual. I beat that giant mech on the first level by circling a fucking crate

[Stoney Mason]

Also I'm never sure why people go to the "I don't understand how people can like or dislike something argument". It's easier to just explain why you like or don't like something on either side and then people will agree or disagree with those reasons. Plenty of games that people hate that I love and vice versa.

There are definitely changes between this game and the first so I see how somebody could like some of the stuff in the first game or aspects of it. My personal take is that this one is much closer in spirit to what the original probably should have been. Streamline the RPG stuff. Tighten up the core mechanic stuff. Which they've done. This is essentially the Himuro argument earlier in the thread. If you wanted Mass Effect 2 to be "more RPG" than the first than it isn't. And that on a personal level is a legit individual complaint. This isn't Dragon Age or Baldur's Gate 3 Space Edition.

From my perspective that isn't what I wanted in most regards. I wanted a more focused and better mechanic game with a more clear design based on those priorities. And that is a lot of what I've gotten so I'm extremely happy so far playing through. It's, its own vision of an action RPG. I have some issues but then I always have some issues with any game which I'll spell out once I've beaten it.

But everybody is entitled to their opinion.

[demi]

everyone is in fact not entitled to their opinion. because of this mindset, we have the nintendo wii.

what you mean to say is, everyone is entitled to be wrong.

[BamYouHaveAids]

Also I'm never sure why people go to the "I don't understand how people can like or dislike something argument". It's easier to just explain why you like or don't like something on either side and then people will agree or disagree with those reasons. Plenty of games that people hate that I love and vice versa.

There are definitely changes between this game and the first so I see how somebody could like some of the stuff in the first game or aspects of it. My personal take is that this one is much closer in spirit to what the original probably should have been. Streamline the RPG stuff. Tighten up the core mechanic stuff. Which they've done. This is essentially the Himuro argument earlier in the thread. If you wanted Mass Effect 2 to be "more RPG" than the first than it isn't. And that on a personal level is a legit individual complaint. This isn't Dragon Age or Baldur's Gate 3 Space Edition.

From my perspective that isn't what I wanted in most regards. I wanted a more focused and better mechanic game with a more clear design based on those priorities. And that is a lot of what I've gotten so I'm extremely happy so far playing through. It's, its own vision of an action RPG. I have some issues but then I always have some issues with any game which I'll spell out once I've beaten it.

But everybody is entitled to their opinion.

i was just retorting, but just so we are clear, my opinion in whatever medium I decide to give it in is the definitive one.

[Stoney Mason]

everyone is in fact not entitled to their opinion. because of this mindset, we have the nintendo wii.

what you mean to say is, everyone is entitled to be wrong.

That is one way to look at it.

But then honestly I don't get my nuts all in a bunch about the Wii. I have plenty of games to play whether it exists or not. People who spend a lot of time talking about it strike me as equally weird as crazy Nintendo fans.

But back on topic, its about backing up an opinion with reasoning if there is any discussion to be had. I can agree or disagree with reasoning. There is nothing to be discussed though when somebody thinks everybody else shares their same opinion.  (Last comment not aimed at anyone in specific. Just a general observation)