Mass Effect 2 Thread

[ManaByte]

The Collector's armor that came with the CE.

[ManaByte]

The best part is that he's a QA tester laying the smackdown.

[demi]

lolz QA, maybe work on making your game work first before you worry about what goes where

[fistfulofmetal]

put in 15 hours since yesterday afternoon. still wish i had done more side stuff in ME1. I'm still seeing a lot of characters from the main storyline but I imagine there are a bunch of side returning character i'm missing. oh well.
this time i've managed to successfully smooth over the dispute between Miranda and Jack (Miranda's loyalty outfit! :O)
also managed to use my awesome paragon skillz to get Tali pardoned. Well on my way to tapping that once again.

This time I haven't even bothered with Jack. Never take her with me or anything. Usually it's Zaeed and my boy Garrus. We're a awesome team. Also I'm doing a lot of the planet scanning to find side missions. Will be finding and doing all of them.

I need my save to be perfect for the ME3 import

[fistfulofmetal]

people keep saying that the locations in ME1 are better than the ones in ME2. Did I miss a shit-ton of fucking awesome stuff by sticking to the main storyline in ME1? Of course it's due to the fact that it's a few years old, but ME1 felt really empty and lifeless. All the main story locations in ME2 completely destroy the ones in ME1 in terms of style, substance, character, design, etc. Omega and Ilium > every location in ME1

[The Fake Shemp]

I really can't think of anything that people could like about the original over the sequel, other than maybe the soundtrack.

[fistfulofmetal]

I did really like all of the loot you get in ME1. Shit ton of weapons and armor and stuff. I understand why they removed it, but it I wouldn't have minded if it was improved here instead of scrapped all together.

[Great Rumbler]

people keep saying that the locations in ME1 are better than the ones in ME2. Did I miss a shit-ton of fucking awesome stuff by sticking to the main storyline in ME1?

Wait, who says this? Locations were way more unique and varied in ME2, plus Illium and Omega were totally awesome.

[fistfulofmetal]

Skimming the two Gaf threads. I've seen a bunch of people saying it.

[Great Rumbler]

Skimming the two Gaf threads. I've seen a bunch of people saying it.

What a bunch of 'tards.

[MCD]

me2 places are more gears like which is fuck awesome by me.

[Great Rumbler]

The only location in ME1 that was better than ME2 was the very end of the final planet.

[iconoclast]

I really can't think of anything that people could like about the original over the sequel, other than maybe the soundtrack.

I like the heavier emphasis of the RPG aspects of the original (loot, weapon and armor augments, a real experience system, way more talents to spend on your character, etc) as opposed to the almost non-existent RPG elements in ME2. But other than that ME2 is much better all around.

As for locations, I only really loved Feros and Ilos in ME1, none of the other areas stand up to anything in ME2. Actually, I really liked Virmire too.

[Great Rumbler]

Yeah, they either needed to go all the way in one direction or the other. Trying to have it both ways just ended up making both aspects weak.

I think they made the right choice, but I think it would have been pretty awesome to have had an isometric battle system like in Dragon Age. That would have something to see. 

[cool breeze]

people keep saying that the locations in ME1 are better than the ones in ME2. Did I miss a shit-ton of fucking awesome stuff by sticking to the main storyline in ME1?

Wait, who says this? Locations were way more unique and varied in ME2, plus Illium and Omega were totally awesome.

I don't know if fistfulofmetal is reading posts I'm not or someone is confused.  I said in that thread that combat areas were more dynamic and took place in more believable locations.  You can spot a battle arena from a while away in ME2 from the waist high covered littered around the environment.  ME1 had more cases where you weren't just fighting in really designed combat zones.  I'm talking about Chora's Den, Markets, and medical area on the citadel and things like that.  I'd also say that ME1 had better side quests that were contained inside those hub areas.  There wasn't really a side quest in ME2 that was like the smuggling side quest from ME1.  But that is really just nitpicking and comparing both games after I finished.  I never thought about it when playing the game because I was busy having fun.  Other than that and the music, ME2 is way better than ME1.  I think I've mentioned before that I wasn't a big fan of ME1 because so much of the gameplay was broken.  ME2, on the other hand, is one of my favorite games ever. 

[The Fake Shemp]

I LOVE the removal of those useless RPG gameplay relics that do absolutely nothing to enhance or deepen the gameplay. This is an action RPG with a deep focus on character interaction and tactical cover-based shooter gameplay. Anything done to divert the focus from that is a complete hindrance to the experience. The game feels like a more focused affair with the rudimentary upgrade path relegated exclusively to in-between missions. It's exactly what the series needed.

I'm not saying that I don't mind them, in fact I love that style of customization in other RPGs where appropriate. I must stress that not only did BioWare make the right choice, but they created a stunning example that the RPG genre shouldn't be pigeonholed by atrocious design.

There isn't a single saving grace of the original Mass Effect. The sequel is a substantial leap forward in every regard.

This.

[bork]

I'm at 27 hours of playtime now.  Still haven't mapped out every galaxy.  Still haven't finished all the loyalty and side missions.  This is about where the original game was wrapping up for me, but there's plenty of play time left here, it seems.   

Regarding Samara's loyalty mission:

spoiler (click to show/hide)

Did anyone choose to kill Samara?  I'm going for as much Paragon as I can with this playthrough, but I restarted the mission just before that point to try it.  It kind of sucks that her daughter just takes her place (although understandable given limitations), but does this change anything?  Like does "Samara's" dialogue change any?

[close]

Wish I had gotten Legion earlier.  I keep wondering what kind of reactions, if any, the various NPCs and characters (Tali is the obvious one!) would have towards it walking around.

[WrikaWrek]

Skimming the two Gaf threads. I've seen a bunch of people saying it.

The mass effect 2 thread on gaf illustrates how fucking distinguished mentally-challenged most of the people there are, and how many dipshits populate it. Hate bomb on that bitch.

[fistfulofmetal]

spoiler (click to show/hide)

Did anyone choose to kill Samara?  I'm going for as much Paragon as I can with this playthrough, but I restarted the mission just before that point to try it.  It kind of sucks that her daughter just takes her place (although understandable given limitations), but does this change anything?  Like does "Samara's" dialogue change any?

[close]

spoiler (click to show/hide)

if you romance Morinth. you die

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[Third]

I'm so glad the crappy item mamagement from ME1 is gone. God, I hated that system.

[fistfulofmetal]

i hated the way it was managed but i liked the idea.

[Great Rumbler]

Wish I had gotten Legion earlier.  I keep wondering what kind of reactions, if any, the various NPCs and characters (Tali is the obvious one!) would have towards it walking around.

If you're going for full Paragon, you better wait until your done doing side quests to get Legion.

[MCD]

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I've had enough of your snide insinuations.

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I've had enough of your disingenuous assertions.

best moment in both games.

[cool breeze]

best part of the second one is the Die Hard reference.  at least I'm considering it a die hard reference.

Skimming the two Gaf threads. I've seen a bunch of people saying it.

The mass effect 2 thread on gaf illustrates how fucking distinguished mentally-challenged most of the people there are, and how many dipshits populate it. Hate bomb on that bitch.

the official or spoiler one? I haven't read the official one at all and the spoiler one is almost total praise.

[MCD]

the asari on omega is hotter than both.

[fistfulofmetal]

samara is fugly. hate her.

[MCD]

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must do this in real life.

[Hitler Stole My Potato]

I finished it the other day and really dug the whole thing but I gotta go back an replay that end sequence again.....the alien scientist dude died in my game.  Not sure how to correct it, but I obviously did something wrong.

And all I could think about the end was fucking Iron Maiden.  I swear I had a poster or a shirt with that guy on it.

[Hitler Stole My Potato]

Wait a sec.  I just read you could have sex with Tali in the game.  Why the hell would anyone want to do that?  That'd be like fucking a vaccum cleaner.

[fistfulofmetal]

Because Tali is sexy.

[bork]

Wish I had gotten Legion earlier.  I keep wondering what kind of reactions, if any, the various NPCs and characters (Tali is the obvious one!) would have towards it walking around.

If you're going for full Paragon, you better wait until your done doing side quests to get Legion.

Too late.  Is that going to have some sort of effect on the ending outcome?  I want everyone to survive with this play-through.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

Did anyone choose to kill Samara?  I'm going for as much Paragon as I can with this playthrough, but I restarted the mission just before that point to try it.  It kind of sucks that her daughter just takes her place (although understandable given limitations), but does this change anything?  Like does "Samara's" dialogue change any?

[close]

spoiler (click to show/hide)

if you romance Morinth. you die

[close]

I saw about that, but is that it?  Nothing else is different?  That's disappointing.

Because Tali is sexy.

[The Fake Shemp]

@ asshole Shepard

[demi]

Wish I had gotten Legion earlier.  I keep wondering what kind of reactions, if any, the various NPCs and characters (Tali is the obvious one!) would have towards it walking around.

If you're going for full Paragon, you better wait until your done doing side quests to get Legion.

Too late.  Is that going to have some sort of effect on the ending outcome?  I want everyone to survive with this play-through.

Say goodbye to Kelly

[Raban]

spoiler (click to show/hide)

Did anyone choose to kill Samara?  I'm going for as much Paragon as I can with this playthrough, but I restarted the mission just before that point to try it.  It kind of sucks that her daughter just takes her place (although understandable given limitations), but does this change anything?  Like does "Samara's" dialogue change any?

[close]

spoiler (click to show/hide)

if you romance Morinth. you die

[close]

I saw about that, but is that it?  Nothing else is different?  That's disappointing.

During gameplay, no, nothing is different. But if you go and talk to her on the ship she drops the act and speaks with you. I don't know about anybody else, but there was no dialog progression with her. No matter what you do when you talk to her, she either stonewalls you or mind flays you.

[Great Rumbler]

Wish I had gotten Legion earlier.  I keep wondering what kind of reactions, if any, the various NPCs and characters (Tali is the obvious one!) would have towards it walking around.

If you're going for full Paragon, you better wait until your done doing side quests to get Legion.

Too late.  Is that going to have some sort of effect on the ending outcome?  I want everyone to survive with this play-through.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

After one or two missions following when the activation of Legion, the Reaper IFF will be installed. Shephard and the other team members will leave the ship in a shuttle while Joker and EDI test the IFF. After you're gone, Collectors take over the ship and kidnap everyone aside from Joker. If you don't go after them immediately following this, all the kidnapped crew will be killed.

[close]

[cool breeze]

Free DLC is coming out tomorrow if you signed up for the Cerberus network (I think it was required to get any of the DLC).  It's new armor and a new shotgun that is supposed to have more range and armor piercing, maybe make that vanguard class less gimped at higher levels.

[Hitler Stole My Potato]

Always down for new armor.

I bought the Collector's Edtion but never bothered to use the Collector armor.  Seemed too out there.

[Kestastrophe]

fucking bullshit "No One Left Behind" achievement 

How did you guys do it?

I put Legion in vents, Zaaeed in charge of second group. I also tried Tali in vents before, and both her and Legion died despite being full loyalty.

[demi]

Dont use Zaeed

I used-

Legion vents
Garrus team

Mordin sends group back

Jack biotics
Garrus team again

Legion Grunt final fight

[Kestastrophe]

Thanks. If I use Jack on final fight and she's not loyal, will she die?

[demi]

I wouldnt know. I fucked Jack and made her my waifu.

[Kestastrophe]

lol. I did her mission, but she got sand in her vag when she and Miranda got in a fight and I sided with Miranda

[The Fake Shemp]

Patel has speculated that unless all your party members are loyal, the game might kill off any party member randomly depending on who you choose to pick what. That's in addition to non-loyal people that kick the bucket. It's really tough to find a real set of party members to do what.

[demi]

I sided with my waifu, but I Paragon'd Miranda into submission cause shes a needy bitch.

[Hitler Stole My Potato]

fucking bullshit "No One Left Behind" achievement 

How did you guys do it?

I put Legion in vents, Zaaeed in charge of second group. I also tried Tali in vents before, and both her and Legion died despite being full loyalty.

Mordin died on mine but I put Tali in the vents and she made it out fine.  Everyone was loyal too. 


Fucking Mordin.

[The Fake Shemp]

Mordin and Thane are my favorite characters. I hope they return for the sequel.

[Great Rumbler]

Mordin and Thane are my favorite characters. I hope they return for the sequel.

Agreed on that. I also like Garrus though.

[AdmiralViscen]

I had 100% loyalty attainment and Mordin died. Just put him in your party, or maybe let him lead the crew back to the ship. Otherwise he has a high chance of dying for no reason.

[The Fake Shemp]

I love Garrus as well.

Since all the characters can die, I doubt they'll return for the sequel as playable characters (although I bet they remain as NPCs). I predict one or more of the side characters (EDI, Joker, The Illusive Man, Aria, etc.) will be party members, and Liara will rejoin the cast as a party member. That sucks, because it means Thane won't return (but maybe Thane's son will?).

I bet you'll get a Batarian squad member next time too.

[demi]

VOLUS SEX MATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[The Fake Shemp]

 

[Hitler Stole My Potato]

Mordin and Thane are my favorite characters. I hope they return for the sequel.

Mordin won't be coming back in any sequel in my game! lol

I seriously gotta figure out what the hell I did to let him die.  Next time he'll escort the crew back to the ship instead of Zaeed.

As far as new characters, I kinda liked Legion the best even though his story was probably fleshed out the least, outside of Zaeed the lame ass.  I suppose I like a little bit of mystery.  I'm also assuming the decision you had to make at the end of his loyalty story will have a major impact on how ME3 plays out....probably more so than any other.

Jack was fucking bad ass as well. The whole set up in Purgatory was one of my favorite parts of the game.  I just wish she was a little more talky.

[demi]

His decision was another set up for the war in ME3. I of course said HELL YEAH and put them on my side

[fistfulofmetal]

Legion is the only character that made sense to put in the vents. Because the only other option is Tali and why would I ever risk her safety?

[Stoney Mason]

lol. I just talked to my nephew who beat the game and nearly his entire crew died.

He's a pretty typical mainstream gamer so I can only imagine that most "regular" folks end up losing most of their crew. 

[cool breeze]

Legion is the only character that made sense to put in the vents. Because the only other option is Tali and why would I ever risk her safety?

yeah, Legion was the most obvious.  Tech specialty, suicide mission...let's go with the machine vessel for the geth collective.  At most you lose parts of your old armor.

Mordin and Thane are my favorite characters. I hope they return for the sequel.

Agreed on that. I also like Garrus though.

Garrus was my favorite in ME1 and ME2.  I liked him in ME1 because of his 'wanna-be' renegade cop attitude.  In ME2 he is what he wanted to be in ME1, and he got a lot of that from watching Shepard in ME1.

Thane was my second favorite.  Both were vigilante who killed to make the world better.  That was where my shepard was at.

[Stoney Mason]

Legion is the only character that made sense to put in the vents. Because the only other option is Tali and why would I ever risk her safety?

No way I was sending Legion. He was my bro. And we all know the saying about bros and ho's...


It seems pretty easy to me to save everybody. Like most "normal" people my nephew was too lazy to do all the upgrades to his ship. And he picked weird people for the escort missions for some bizzare logic he tried to explain to me.

[cool breeze]

wrong name on that quote, man.  I don't give a fuck about Tali.

[Great Rumbler]

I think my favorite NPC in ME2 is the Asari bartended on Illium. I wish I could recrute her for my party instead of Morinth/Samara. :'(

[GilloD]

I think the police chief/Saul Tigh might be a character in the 3rd. There's a note about it in the Mission report or whatever.,

Anyway- I had full loyalty. I sent Garrus with first fire team and Tali in vents. Jacob did escort back.

Jack did the biotic section and Grunt led the 2nd fire team, Garrus and Miranda came with me. At this point Garrus & Grunt died. I took Miranda & Legion into the final battle. Legion died after the battle and Jack was dead at the end of unrevealed causes.

4 deaths at full loyalty