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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #3780 on: December 17, 2015, 05:24:54 PM »
I don't get how they're going to take out Doom, even with everyone combined. He's more powerful than The Living Tribunal in his world and has already one-shotted a cosmic tier character and Thanos. Plus it doesn't seem like he can be physically harmed by any means. I'm betting he realizes that his world is deeply flawed and abdicates his power.

Squirrel Girl defeated Thanos too, so maybe they could get her help.
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« Reply #3781 on: December 17, 2015, 07:54:52 PM »
Wait Teen Titans: Earth One #2 is out?? :hyper

I really liked that book last year. :lawd
Oh, no, sorry. I just came across it, didn't know it was from last year.

I liked Batman and Superman: Earth One quite a bit, Batman maybe a bit more but I thought both were good.  :yeshrug

At the rate they come out Teen Titans #2 is probably 2017 or something. 2016 has a number "scheduled" though:
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« Reply #3782 on: December 17, 2015, 11:03:39 PM »
Another thing that gets to me about the power Secret Wars Marvel Universe: The younger original X-Men who came forward in time.  Why are they still around?  Are we never going to get an explanation as to why they can't go back in time?

And then there's the Inhumans.  Sorry, Marvel.  They're never going to be the X-Men, no matter how hard you try.

I don't get how they're going to take out Doom, even with everyone combined. He's more powerful than The Living Tribunal in his world and has already one-shotted a cosmic tier character and Thanos. Plus it doesn't seem like he can be physically harmed by any means. I'm betting he realizes that his world is deeply flawed and abdicates his power.

Doom doesn't have all the real power. 
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There's also Owen Reece, the Molecule Man.  I'm sure something happens with him to cause Doom's downfall.  It can't just be all the heroes charging Castle Doom that does much of anything.
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« Reply #3783 on: January 01, 2016, 05:02:20 PM »
Just finished reading Dan Slott's 4 issue + Christmas special Great Lakes Avengers.  That was great, reminded me a lot of Peter Milligan's X-Statix.  I really dig these satire takes on superhero comics and how dumb a lot of it is.  Squirrel Girl is great and really like Doorman too.  Some great comic moments "btw Doc, what are you a doctor of anyway?", "Stuff".

Looking forward to more GLA in the future.

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« Reply #3784 on: January 09, 2016, 12:08:34 AM »
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« Reply #3785 on: January 14, 2016, 01:31:15 PM »
Still been reading a bunch of 2004-2005 era comics between Avengers Disassembled & House of M, read a good 12 issue (2004-2006) Nightcrawler run that started off as Nightcrawler's Supernatural CSI  and ended up setting up some religious heaven/hell end of times battle stuff for future X-men or Marvel Universe.  I'm finding I tend to enjoy the religious/mystical side of Marvel with Mephisto, Dr. Strange, devils and gods and dreamwalkers, etc... more than the standard good guys & bad guys fight it out in the city stuff.  Probably just because it's more rare when reading Marvel in bulk and so it's something different (and often something a bit darker).  Plus I like Nightcrawler, he's an interesting character.

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« Reply #3786 on: January 14, 2016, 09:26:52 PM »
Secret Wars #9 finally came out.  Nothing particularly Earth-shattering and is kind of a ho-hum ending to an event series that started out great and just got worse each month.

All the characters storming Doom's castle?  LOL, FUCK 'EM.  They're not even in the book.

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This is all about Reed Richards and Doom.  Reed and Ultimate Reed fight Doom, Ultimate Reed does his predictable heel turn and betrays Reed, then the Molecule Man helps Reed and Doom loses all his godlike-power.

In the end, shit is set back "right" and we get the 'new' Marvel universe that's already been in books for the past few months.  Reed and Sue's absence is finally explained-- they're with the Future Foundation crew and the Molecule Man is now with them, REBUILDING MULTIVERSES.[/quote]

So all that shit that went down in the Avengers books with incursions, leading up to this?  Basically meaningless.
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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #3788 on: January 22, 2016, 09:41:53 PM »
They do this literally every year.

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« Reply #3789 on: January 23, 2016, 08:21:49 AM »
Is this is the new 53?
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« Reply #3790 on: January 23, 2016, 09:24:40 AM »
They do this literally every year.

No they don't.  But it happens way too often regardless.  That said, while people might scoff at the numbers, apparently the readership went up like 15% when they rebooted the DCU a few years ago, so it's considered a success whether fanboys like it or not.

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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #3792 on: January 28, 2016, 04:33:04 PM »




DC, pls  :stahp

http://www.ew.com/2016/01/28/dc-entertainment-hanna-barbera-titles

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« Reply #3793 on: January 28, 2016, 05:17:51 PM »
Betty tho. :noah
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« Reply #3794 on: January 28, 2016, 06:24:14 PM »


Peter David & Lee Week's The Hulk Tempist Fugit was pretty nice.  Story was nothing special but the presentation and Hulk-ness were fantastic.

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« Reply #3795 on: January 29, 2016, 02:11:17 AM »
Betty tho. :noah

Yeah, but you could probably get that IRL if Billie Piper wore a brunette wig.

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« Reply #3796 on: January 29, 2016, 04:25:56 PM »
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« Reply #3797 on: January 29, 2016, 04:42:08 PM »
Betty tho. :noah

Yeah, but you could probably get that IRL if Billie Piper wore a brunette wig.

I probably could not.   :fbm
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« Reply #3798 on: January 31, 2016, 02:20:07 AM »
Betty tho. :noah

Yeah, but you could probably get that IRL if Billie Piper wore a brunette wig.

I probably could not.   :fbm

Oh, right. Me too.

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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #3799 on: February 14, 2016, 11:47:48 PM »
Well, finished Year 2005 Marvel published comics and did House of M.  The mainline House of M series by Bendis was entertaining, but the side stuff ranged from kind neat (Doom) to zzz (Spider-man) and really failed to add anything substantial to the main House of M plot.  Whereas the main plot could've used some extra issues since it was quite short.  Liked the end twist, and the end end twist is interesting even though I know it's retconned later.  But it's still interesting because it'll be neat to see it's affect in the next year of Marvel leading up to Civil War.

Gonna take a break from Marvel.  I think reading through a year of their catalog seems to take about 3-4 months.  So if I get through about 3 years a year, in 5-6 years I might get caught up.  But I'm enjoying the ride for sure.  Looking forward to more New Avengers the most, since Bendis writing Spider-man and Wolverine is pretty fun.

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« Reply #3800 on: February 15, 2016, 12:15:41 AM »
Don't even remember the House Of M ending twists-- what were they?

I remember Civil War being just OK, but the World War Hulk and Secret Invasion stuff was fun.  Especially the latter.
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« Reply #3801 on: February 15, 2016, 02:50:31 AM »
First twist in House of M ending:
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That Pietro/Quicksilver was the one behind the whole thing and Magneto was just another victim.  Was a neat twist and the scene where Magneto wakes up and kills his own son Quicksilver out of rage "YOU DID ALL THIS IN MY NAME?!?!" etc... was a pretty awesome finish for the event.
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The second twist that was sort of the cliffhanger twist:
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Was Scarlet Witch throwing a fit at her dad/Magneto for killing her brother and blaming mutants for everything and then "no more mutants" and the world is remade back to normal with 90% of the mutants losing their powers.
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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #3802 on: February 15, 2016, 04:59:02 AM »
The X-Men/mutants all got shunted off into their own little pocket universe for Civil War and I think most of Secret Invasion where nobody outside their books really talked about them. (Fair, considering they were reduced to 198 known mutants total.) Planet Hulk was the god-king storyline of that era. IIRC, they also unraveled the Decimation "status quo" very slowly in comparison to overturning a lot of other stuff. Seemed like it was a few years before there were mutants around every corner again.

I don't even consider this a spoiler, but Scott Snyder's way to make Bruce Wayne into Batman again is dumb as fuck and probably makes the whole stupid idea stupider than it was at the start of this waaaaay too long arc. I can't believe Grant Morrison wrote a more plausible, comprehensible and compelling version of the same idea.

And his involved time travel.

And Darkseid's eye beams.

And possibly the embodied spirit of Satan.

And all of relevant history happening in the Wayne family basement.

Why Scott. You gave us The Black Mirror. And the Court of Owls. (And honestly, Mister Bloom is a great new villain.) Why.

My favorite part about Rebirth isn't that they're potentially gutting everything including maybe the film universe to focus around Batman more (somehow) and Green Lantern less (which was part of what messed up New 52's internal coherence and nobody seemed to care much about fixing it by something like simply time-shifting the Batman books until two years later) but that almost every story talks about how DC just did this with "New 52" when that was like four years ago, and they just technically rebooted everything with fucking Convergence to sever all the books from each other if necessary last year, restarting whole lines like Earth 2/Constantine/etc. and prior to it all, cancelling half the lineup with not entirely great rhyme or reason. (Killing good selling books to setup books that never happened, and letting others doing poorly drag on despite "wrapping up" multiple times before suddenly dropping them.)

The truth is, I have no clue what DC or Marvel should even do. I get both wanting to reboot to tie in with the films, especially Marvel. But no matter what DC never seems to want to let go, or know how to schedule out a reboot (I mean, fuck, Crisis didn't even work right), and doesn't seem interested in spinning out Earth One into a real Ultimate like line.

I feel like I should scrap reading new stuff for a year or two. Clear out backlogs on finished works, do something like Bebpo is with older Marvel, etc.

That said, it is a great way to inflict punishment on myself.

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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #3803 on: February 15, 2016, 04:59:15 AM »
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« Reply #3804 on: February 15, 2016, 05:15:47 AM »
Honestly, after New 52, I don't care if they scrapped all the canon and started over with the heroes just starting out concept. Batman starting his "war" a year ahead of Superman appearing which kicks off everyone else appearing and leads into stuff like the Justice League and then the whole universe expands from there. (Which was the original post-Crisis idea that they screwed up.) Do new versions of the famous stories, etc.

My only requirement is that Maxwell Lord shoots Ted Kord in the head again and things go fucking nuts. James Robinson's/Greg Rucka's Gotham Central/OMAC Project/Checkmate/Wonder Woman/52/JSA reign was like where DC peaked for me. With No Man's Land starting it and Final Crisis (+Legion of Three Worlds' canon wank) bringing up the rear.

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« Reply #3805 on: February 15, 2016, 05:16:23 AM »
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« Reply #3806 on: February 15, 2016, 05:37:55 AM »
But The Black Mirror. James Gordon Jr.

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It only had one plot thread didn't it...
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« Reply #3807 on: February 15, 2016, 11:40:51 AM »
I read Providence #7.

I'm a little disappointed that it returned to status quo after the last issue. The protagonist is super in denial. :lol
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« Reply #3808 on: February 16, 2016, 02:59:23 PM »
First twist in House of M ending:
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That Pietro/Quicksilver was the one behind the whole thing and Magneto was just another victim.  Was a neat twist and the scene where Magneto wakes up and kills his own son Quicksilver out of rage "YOU DID ALL THIS IN MY NAME?!?!" etc... was a pretty awesome finish for the event.
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The second twist that was sort of the cliffhanger twist:
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Was Scarlet Witch throwing a fit at her dad/Magneto for killing her brother and blaming mutants for everything and then "no more mutants" and the world is remade back to normal with 90% of the mutants losing their powers.
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Ah OK, the no more mutants thing.  Got rid of a bunch of scrub-tier characters, but still left some of the dumber ones behind.  :doge

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« Reply #3809 on: February 16, 2016, 03:07:00 PM »
Re: DC

Stop rebooting everything.  That doesn't need to happen.  Just focus on writing good fuckin' STORIES that are easy for anyone to pick up and start reading, without needing to know years of backstory.  The latter is gonna happen no matter what, but they can still make it easy enough for people to get a grasp of what's going on.

Batman is just all over the place right now.  Too many character "deaths" and resurrections to count.  I was actually kind of enjoying Gordon-Robobats but the stuff they did in Batman #49 with Bruce was just plain awful. 
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I actually would have preferred him to remember that he was Batman, but instead of using some dumb memory-restoring machine, just kind of start over again.  Could have led to some interesting stories.
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I'm glad that they are getting finished with Gordon-Bats and de-powered Supes, though, even if the latter was more interesting that way.  And I see that Wonder Woman has already ditched that awful new costume they gave her. 

I like that the Justice League book has basically ignored all this shit entirely (I think the explanation is that the Darkseid War stuff takes place before recent other events)...it's a better book for it.

Oh, and it's funny that the rebooted new Lobo is slowly kinda turning back into the old Lobo.  He's starting to look like the old design more now.  What they did to him was by far the worst thing in the New 52.

Green Lantern is already being changed up.  The entire corps disappeared (most of them were thrown back in time to the universe as it was before the big bang) except for Hal, who made himself look like a criminal and stole a prototype gauntlet that grants GL power without the battery or ties to OA, then ran off.  Basically an excuse to go totally solo and ditch all the corps shit for now.
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« Reply #3810 on: February 16, 2016, 03:16:31 PM »
Re: Marvel

I'm behind on a lot of stuff, but have been enjoying the various Spider-Man and X-Men books.  They've done a good job at juggling three Spider-Men without making it feel crowded (Peter Parker is now a rich global CEO mainly working out of China, Spider-Man 2099 runs Parker Industries in New York, and Miles Morales is...right back to being himself like in the Ultimate books, only now his mother is back alive as a reward for his part in Secret Wars) and Silk and Spider-Gwen are fun.  The latter is back in her own universe but now connected to the main universe as well.

Old Man Logan has been a good read so far.  It takes place before he joins his current X-Men squad and is completely disconnected from the rest of the X books.  This is a good thing.  It's more violent and focuses on Logan trying to kill those who are responsible for the fucked up future he comes from.

Not really digging All-New Wolverine right now.  The current storyline has more Laura clones popping up and her helping them out.  I'd rather have stories focusing on her trying to fill Logan's shoes and dealing with his rogues' gallery for a little while.

Iron Man has been fun. I don't get how Stark seems to be rich in his solo book but a 'poor man' in Avengers though.

Avengers...I just dunno.  There's too many books now and I'm not particularly thrilled with any of them.
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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #3812 on: February 18, 2016, 10:32:54 PM »
So it looks like Rebirth really is gonna be DC starting over...again.

Five fuckin' years and that's it?

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« Reply #3813 on: February 19, 2016, 10:04:17 AM »
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« Reply #3814 on: February 20, 2016, 02:24:15 PM »
I'm not really knowledgeable about any of this and only really followed the Snyder's Bats run in honesty, but was New 52 really a reboot? Seemed kind of one foot in one foot out a lot of times. At times confusing to new readers, but while still pissing off vets?

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« Reply #3815 on: February 20, 2016, 03:24:03 PM »
It was a reboot, but weird in that a lot of events from the old DCU still happened, just in a much, much shorter amount of time.  What this really meant is that you had characters like Superman and Wonder Woman getting rebooted, teams like the Justice League coming together for the first time, but then Batman and especially Green Lantern comics felt exactly the same as before.  IIRC the New 52 universe was only supposed to have a past going back about five years from when it started.  Makes no sense for Batman, since all the various Robins were still all grown up and had been his partners at various times.  :dizzy  I think they would say that Batman existed "in the shadows" going back longer, but really it just went ignored.

These guys are trying restart all their shit way, way too often.
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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #3816 on: February 23, 2016, 11:35:05 PM »
New 52 rebooted basically everything back to the start to get rid of needing to know the continuity.

Except Batman.

And Green Lantern.

Because those had on-going extended plots and like fifty books and New 52 was a way to reboot the less important books and try some new ones and dump others.

But then they ran into the same problems as always when writers change, they ditch stuff those before did. Superman, Superboy, Justice League Dark, Stormwatch, etc. got battered with this very early on. And a lot of the new books were going poorly, so they got canned. Even though some of them were responsible for the main plot and backstory for events that were to spread into other books. (For example, Demon Knights, Stormwatch and Grifter were sharing an arc (to introduce the Daemonites and Helspont into the DC universe as a major threat) with Superman and Hawkman, until half the writers changed abruptly, half the series were canned and/or the entire plot dropped.)

It got to the point where books connected to Earth 2 and Future's End were the only things sticking to a single canon. (And then Convergence apparently eliminated Future's End.)

Convergence was also supposed to end New 52 to make a "new New 52" or DC YOU where there wasn't one canon, but each book could have its own. So readers didn't have to try and keep up with continuity.

Rebirth is even better because it's not a reboot it's...eliminating the New 52 universe to go back to the pre-New 52 one to bring back the "legacy of DC Comics". :rofl

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Johns talks his past DC miniseries "Green Lantern Rebirth" and "The Flash Rebirth," which restored familiar elements to the Green Lantern and Flash mythos, while also moving the characters forward. "Rebirth" aims to do the same with the entire DC Universe, while also restoring more of a focus on a shared universe. "Rebirth" starts in "DC Universe Rebirth," an 80-page one-shot scheduled for release on May 25, written by Johns and illustrated by artists Ethan Van Sciver, Ivan Reis, Gary Frank and Phil Jimenez.

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It started when [DC Co-Publishers] Dan [DiDio] and Jim [Lee] came to me and said that they wanted to end things at #52, and work build back to a shared universe and big stories. They wanted to take another look at everything. Dan mentioned the word "Rebirth" to me. I said, look, that word's incredibly important to me -- I feel some pride and ownership of that word. I said it means something extremely specific in my mind, so if we're going to do something with "Rebirth", it's important to me to understand what that means. And like everyone else, I'm skeptical of relaunches. So it had to be something that everyone put everything they had into it. That was special. That had a reason. And "Rebirth" to me is a reason. It's beyond the back-to-basics approach. It's not just going back to square one. It's much, much more than something that simplistic. We all need to do our best to get this right and everyone has come together to create a cohesive universe and terrific stories that work individually as well as together. We're also doing it by building on everything that's been published since Action Comics #1 up thru The New 52.

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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #3817 on: February 23, 2016, 11:55:27 PM »
Also, Johns is off Justice League after Darkseid War ends whenever #50 comes out.

Oddly his interview seemed to discount that Darkseid War and Rebirth were tied together. Even if the Anti-Monitor (not to mention Darkseid too) seems to be a pretty good tool to reboot your universe with.

And some books are going to go to twice a month. Detective and Action Comics are hinted at this, since he says they're excited about hitting #1000. Which would otherwise be ~4+ years away.

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« Reply #3818 on: February 24, 2016, 12:05:27 AM »
Wait...
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It started when [DC Co-Publishers] Dan [DiDio] and Jim [Lee] came to me and said that they wanted to end things at #52, and work build back to a shared universe and big stories.
Was this before or after DiDio's plan/goal to eliminate the (poorly) shared New 52 universe with Convergence and wreck the point of Morrison's The Multiversity in the process.

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« Reply #3819 on: February 24, 2016, 12:06:11 AM »
I really like Peter David's work on The Hulk.  I read Hulk: Destruction last night, a 4 or 5 part little story about the Abomination's origin.  Read well, good humor, made me like the characters (my first exposure to the green haired gamma-radiated psychiatrist friend of Hulk).  Art was solid too.  I wasn't a big fan of David's House of M Hulk story, but otherwise the rest of his Hulk stuff in the 2004/2005 era is quality stuff.  Made me a fan of the Hulk.

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« Reply #3820 on: February 24, 2016, 12:21:38 AM »
(And then Convergence apparently eliminated Future's End.)

That future was eliminated, but the storyline has continued in the Batman Beyond series, where Tim Drake went further into the future to fight Brother Eye, using the Batman Beyond suit.  That storyline is over and now something new is beginning...or is it?  Because I have no idea if it will continue.  :lol
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« Reply #3821 on: February 24, 2016, 12:30:36 AM »
To be honest, I love New 52 just for the opportunity to get to describe it to people who ask.

It was supposed to simplify things!

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« Reply #3822 on: February 24, 2016, 12:37:05 AM »
Oh, I forgot how Barbara was paralyzed for years AND then became Oracle for years, but now she's healed and is back as (an often brutal) Batgirl before slowly de-aging and the book becoming Hipster Batgirl's wacky adventures at University! (AND BOYS! :-[)

And this all fits into that five year time frame or whatever. And nobody mentions Oracle as once being at the information center of half the heroes in the DC Universe, and Black Canary was both not in and in the Birds of Prey and Justice League, while being a criminal, and...yet, refers regularly to her escapades with Babs.

Nightwing -> Grayson worked a lot better because they were kinda like "forget it" and I do like the increasing Grayson-Jason-Tim team-ups. Their obvious but still entertaining "three faces of Batman" shtick is fun.

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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #3823 on: February 24, 2016, 10:51:48 AM »
Oh, I forgot how Barbara was paralyzed for years AND then became Oracle for years, but now she's healed and is back as (an often brutal) Batgirl before slowly de-aging and the book becoming Hipster Batgirl's wacky adventures at University! (AND BOYS! :-[)

And this all fits into that five year time frame or whatever. And nobody mentions Oracle as once being at the information center of half the heroes in the DC Universe, and Black Canary was both not in and in the Birds of Prey and Justice League, while being a criminal, and...yet, refers regularly to her escapades with Babs.

Nightwing -> Grayson worked a lot better because they were kinda like "forget it" and I do like the increasing Grayson-Jason-Tim team-ups. Their obvious but still entertaining "three faces of Batman" shtick is fun.

What a great time to be alive.

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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #3824 on: February 24, 2016, 11:18:46 AM »
"That's it, no more shrimp before bed."

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"Amazonian princess?"

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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #3825 on: March 07, 2016, 10:58:34 PM »
I've been reading Decimation following House of M and man this is non-stop shit.  Like all these "cool" and "edgy" ideas the writers the writers thought of for mutants following House of M are just so bad.  Pretty much everything is feel bad edgy, the new characters are plot lines are junk.  It just sucks.

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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #3826 on: March 10, 2016, 07:56:17 PM »
Been reading some pretty good stuff recently:

Monstress - This kind of reminds me of late-era Final Fantasy in a way, with the way it mixes humans with half-animal people and uses a very ornate, almost baroque-inspired art style. If I said nothing else good about it, the art is incredibly detailed and good. Some of the best I've seen in comics. But it's got an interested story, too, with lots of mystery and fantastical happenings. Only three issues are out so far and the release schedule is, unfortunately, a bit erratic.

Cry Havoc - A British lesbian-turned werewolf goes to Afghanistan to track down a rogue American werewolf with a band of normal human soldiers and various other freaks. It's also told in three alternating plot lines: just after the MC is turned, the MC in Afghanistan searching for the American werewolf, and after the MC's encounter with the psycho American lady werewolf. It sounds a bit confusing and slapdash, but it all works pretty well and gives you hints and details about what's going on without throwing too much at you at one time. It's still early in its run, but it's got my attention and I'm really interested in seeing where things go after the reveal in the second issue.

Insexts: Okay...where should I start with this one? An insect lady impregnates her dirtbag husband so that she can start a new life with her insect lesbian maid. Also, it's Victorian England. Got it? So, right off the bat there's some "Down with the patriarchy!!" going on, and some serious David Cronenberg-esque body horror, mixed in a with some late-Victorian London [both high and low]. And lots of fairly explicit lesbian sex, if you're into that sort of thing. Tear away all the details, though, and the basica story is about two women who are "different" trying to make a happy life for themselves up against a world that wants to tear them apart.

Black Magick - A Massachusetts police officer, who also happens to be a witch, is targeted by a mysterious group who know her secret. This is probably the weakest of the four [for me, personally], but still a good read so far and it does a nice balance between the regular police work and magical investigation techniques. It moves a bit slower, but the end of the fifth issue final provides a glimpse into who this mysterious organization is and lets you know pretty clearly that things are about to get real.
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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #3827 on: March 12, 2016, 08:11:17 AM »
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She was a lesbian, but now she's a werewolf? Couldn't she be a lesbian werewolf?

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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #3828 on: March 12, 2016, 11:39:10 AM »
DC:

Remember the BIG CHANGES for the BIG 3?  Robo-Batman James Gordan, de-powered, identity-outed Superman, and...new costume Wonder Woman?

They're all coming to an end already.  Wonder Woman got her old costume back in recent comics, Superman got his powers restored after being fueled by Kryptonite (lolwut), and Bruce Wayne is about to come back as Batman and save the day. 

That was quick.
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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #3829 on: March 12, 2016, 05:29:35 PM »
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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #3832 on: March 15, 2016, 05:53:56 PM »
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esbian-turned werewolf

She was a lesbian, but now she's a werewolf? Couldn't she be a lesbian werewolf?

The text isn't entirely clear on that point just yet. But the werewolf part has definitely taken precedent in the short-term.
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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #3833 on: March 16, 2016, 05:18:50 PM »
So I finished "Decimation" and the related comics which essentially are just all the mutant comics from the end of House of M in late 2005 to the end of 2007 with Endangered Species.

At first it was really bad/painful to read.  All the "198" and concentration camp of remaining mutants going nuts and the outside world going genocide was just cringeful to read.  As Decimation got away from that and good writers came in, Peter David with X-Factor Investigations, Ed Brubaker with The Rise and Fall of the Shiar Empire, Mike Carey with Endangered Species; all good stuff.  I don't think Brubaker is this most interesting writer, but he writes solid exciting action stories.  The Billy Tan art for his 12 issue Rise and Fall of Shiar was fantastic.  Lotta good action, made me actually like Havok.  Cool moments in there.  The setup arc before it introducing Vulcan was pretty Mark Millar shock lame, which is kind of bad side of Brubaker and why I don't always love his stuff. 

Anyhow, now that I've read that, I'm reading all the late 2005-mid 2006 comics leading up to Civil War & Annihilation, which both seem to take place around the same time.  Looking forward to Annihilation since I've heard it's good and the first major 2000s event of Marvel Cosmic.  Although man, the 2005 four issue Drax the Destroyer that leads up to it was pretty boring.

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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #3834 on: March 16, 2016, 05:44:25 PM »
The cosmic stuff from around that time remains a big Marvel event that I have yet to read.  Looking forward to seeing if you think it's worth reading.
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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #3835 on: March 26, 2016, 02:19:35 PM »
DC Rebirth titles and teams have dropped.

Hype news:

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DC Universe Rebirth by Geoff Johns, Gary Frank, Ivan Reis, Phil Jimenz and Ethan Van Sciver: A one-shot launching DC Rebirth; to be published in May

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New costume designs for Superman, Supergirl, Black Canary, Superboy, Batman and Green Arrow (w/ goatee)

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Batman Beyond by Dan Jurgens and Bernard Chang, featuring the return of Terry McGuinness.

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Blue Beetle by Keith Giffen and Scott Kolins.  Jaime Reyes and Ted Kord will both appear in the book.

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Teen Titans by Ben Percy and Jonboy Meyers, featuring Damian Wayne trying to take over the Teen Titans.

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Super Sons (no creative team announced) featuring Damian Wayne and Jonathan Kent.

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Titans by Dan Abnett and Brett Booth.  Arsenal, Nightwing, Tempest and Donna Troy will all appear.

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Superman by Peter Tomasi, Doug Mahnke and Patrick Gleason
(Basically the Batman & Robin 2011 team.)

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Batman by Tom King, David Finch and Jordie Bellaire (promo art features Jim Gordon with a mustache)

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Detective Comics by James Tynion IV, Eddy Barrows and Alvaro Martinez (featuring Batman, Batwoman, Tim Drake, Spoiler, Cassandra Cain, and Clayface)

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Nightwing by Tim Seeley, Javi Fernandez and Marcus To (featuring Nightwing in the classic "black and blue" costume)
(Marcus To is the best comic book artist working today.)


Some WTF news:

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Justice League #50 will reveal the Joker's real name.

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All-Star Batman by Scott Snyder, John Romita Jr., Jock, and Sean Murphy.  Paul Pope and Tula Lotay were also teased as guest artists.

Is this a continuation of the Miller series??

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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #3836 on: March 26, 2016, 02:33:22 PM »






I haven't been this hyped for a comic series in a long, long, long time. Tim Seeley wrote the fantastic Grayson (probably the best new title of New 52), and Marcus To drew most of Red Robin (the best-drawn DC series outside of anything Alex Ross and Jim Lee have worked on.)

This is literally my dream team working on one of my favorite characters. DC got me back in.

Skintight-Dickbutt is back!

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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #3837 on: March 26, 2016, 02:56:02 PM »
New costume designs for Superman, Supergirl, Black Canary, Superboy, Batman and Green Arrow (w/ goatee)

Again?  :lol

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Batman Beyond by Dan Jurgens and Bernard Chang, featuring the return of Terry McGuinness.

Interesting.  I wonder if this is some time travel-related trickery, since the character is currently dead.  Gonna guess the current Batman Beyond book has future Tim Drake doing something erase everything that happened in this book and finish off the now-pointless Future's End.  :doge

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Blue Beetle by Keith Giffen and Scott Kolins.  Jaime Reyes and Ted Kord will both appear in the book.

Was never much for Blue Bettle, but hey, he's back, and hey, it's Giffen!

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Teen Titans by Ben Percy and Jonboy Meyers, featuring Damian Wayne trying to take over the Teen Titans.

Weird.

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Super Sons (no creative team announced) featuring Damian Wayne and Jonathan Kent.

Jonathan Kent?  I want to say that this Superman and Lois Lane's kid from the current Superman: Lois & Clark series, which is about another Superman/Lois from an alternate reality hiding out on the main DC Earth.   Maybe I'm wrong.

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Titans by Dan Abnett and Brett Booth.  Arsenal, Nightwing, Tempest and Donna Troy will all appear.

Bye bye Lobdell, huh?  Maybe I'll try this Titan stuff now.

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Batman by Tom King, David Finch and Jordie Bellaire (promo art features Jim Gordon with a mustache)

Batman #50 came out last week and saw Batman's full return.  Gordon-Bats also helped saved the day, and it ends with him in a hospital bed recovering...and the mustache already back.   :)

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Detective Comics by James Tynion IV, Eddy Barrows and Alvaro Martinez (featuring Batman, Batwoman, Tim Drake, Spoiler, Cassandra Cain, and Clayface)

Cassandra Cain popping back up is interesting.

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Nightwing by Tim Seeley, Javi Fernandez and ]Marcus To (featuring Nightwing in the classic "black and blue" costume)

I wonder how they are going to explain him being Nightwing again?  Or will all this Rebirth stuff erase him being "dead?"  Maybe when Grayson ends we'll find out.


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Some WTF news:

Justice League #50 will reveal the Joker's real name.

:crazy

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All-Star Batman by Scott Snyder, John Romita Jr., Jock, and Sean Murphy.  Paul Pope and Tula Lotay were also teased as guest artists.

Is this a continuation of the Miller series??

:crazy :crazy
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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #3838 on: March 26, 2016, 03:04:46 PM »
The bigger issue for Nightwing is that because of Forever Evil, everyone on Earth knows it's Dick. So this really must be some kind of world-reset.

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Re: Bore Comics Thread: Crisis On Infinite Megathreads
« Reply #3839 on: March 26, 2016, 03:09:40 PM »
Also I let myself get excited for a new costume for Tim (avatar shoutout hey-oh!) but they seem to have reverted him to his OG Robin costume (?????)



Ugh. They could have at least made it his best Robin costume:



I guess both Tim and Damian are Robin now simultaneously?? I can't see Tim being "Red Robin" when his costume has so much green in it.