FitnessBore - 2018 edition

[Kestastrophe]

Breakfast right now: 3 egg omelette with sausage and cream cheese. Cornflakes can bite me.

Never had an omelette with cream cheese before, but I think I will try it now 

[Cormacaroni]

It's good, as is almost any cheese. You can do something different with eggs pretty much every day - just toss in whatever bits and pieces of veggies, meat and cheese are lying around the fridge.

[cool breeze]

Are the p90x or insanity programs really painful?  I want to take the fast track to getting back in shape. 

Do they rely on pull-ups?  I can't do many pull-ups 'cause one of my rotators cuffs was jacked during football. 

I read up on it before and it does rely on pull-ups but their "alternative" is using resistance bands pulled from a high angle.  And you'll probably be sore if you do heavy exercise, especially at first.

[brawndolicious]

Breakfast; Cereals and Milk, or Banana and a glass of milk, or a Toast and a glass of milk.
Lunch; Fish or Meat, whatever, and Salad. Small amount of rice or pasta if you so wish it.
Afternoon; Piece of fruit.
Dinner: Fish/Meat whatever, and vegetables.

And its not "Fish/Meat whatever" 
its, FUCK YEAH MEAT AND FISH 

a high calorie breakfast is good tho.....

if it consists of eggs, bacon, chicken, whole milk, etc.

it's easier for your body to burn carbohydrates than fats/proteins.
 
Plus it's better to have a diet of bland oatmeal and a little bread than rich- tasting food you'd want to pig out on.

[Cormacaroni]

oh just stop with this bullshit, it's embarrassing.

[brawndolicious]

I'm repeating a textbook fact that I read exactly one year ago, literally!

I just opened up my old book to double-check it before posting actually.
 
of course your diet does depend on whether you want to gain muscle or lose fat.

[Cormacaroni]

Facts without context are useless to us, am nintenho.

Tell us how carbohydrates being faster burned makes any difference to us, please. Do we run faster on high carbs? Do we lift more? Do we gain more or less weight than if we burned fat? What are the advantages of eating high-carb that offset the disadvantages of elevated insulin and consequent conversion of unburned calories to fat?

[Fresh Prince]

I am slightly informed but carbohydrates are fuel. If you are doing regular exercises such as cycling, running etc daily then you can eat carbohydrates since it's the most freely available like am nintendo said. Otherwise fat, protein, carbs once it's stored in the body it's the same- wouldn't it?

[Fresh Prince]

I think what he means is digest.

[Cormacaroni]

I am slightly informed but carbohydrates are fuel. If you are doing regular exercises such as cycling, running etc daily then you can eat carbohydrates since it's the most freely available like am nintendo said. Otherwise fat, protein, carbs once it's stored in the body it's the same- wouldn't it?

Fats are fuel too, and they're much better than carbs. No insulin response, high calories, very satisfying, freely available. You don't eat junk in order to go cycle it off if you want to remain healthy long term. If you eat junk, you HAVE to cycle it off. If you eat higher proprortions of fat, you have the option of doing jack shit as well, without getting fat.

Benefits of carbs: cheap, widely available. Most cultures have based their cooking around them at this point. That's it. Don't tell me they are any more useful to an athlete than any other form of food, 'cause they're not. People have run ultramarathons on low-carb diets very successfully.

[Rman]

I'm loving the ownage by Cormac in this thread.  Although, am nintendho makes it easy. Sorry, bro.

[Fresh Prince]

Carbohydrates are more easily digestable than fats. Hence ready to be used quicker. That is what I understand. If you need fuel quickly you use carbs. 

[brawndolicious]

ultra-marathon runners can burn SEVERAL pounds of fat during a marathon, they have very different metabolisms and are not relevant.
 
If you are extremely active, then a high fat diet will not affect you the same.
 
Otherwise, fats are much more efficient in calories/gram perspective and should only be like 1/3 average person's caloric intake to avoid obesity.

[Rman]

ultra-marathon runners can burn SEVERAL pounds of fat during a marathon, they have very different metabolisms and are not relevant.
 
If you are extremely active, then a high fat diet will not affect you the same.
 
Otherwise, fats are much more efficient in calories/gram perspective and should only be like 1/3 average person's caloric intake to avoid obesity.

Dude, you totally have the science all wrong.  Obesity and excess sucrose/fructose consumption have gone hand in hand in the most exhaustive research.  We ate more fat in the 1930s, 40s, and 50s, and were much slimmer as a population. 

The research all points to insulin.  The only hormone that promotes fat storage.

[brawndolicious]

ultra-marathon runners can burn SEVERAL pounds of fat during a marathon, they have very different metabolisms and are not relevant.
 If you are extremely active, then a high fat diet will not affect you the same.
 Otherwise, fats are much more efficient in calories/gram perspective and should only be like 1/3 average person's caloric intake to avoid obesity.

Dude, you totally have the science all wrong.  Obesity and excess sucrose/fructose consumption have gone hand in hand in the most exhaustive research.  We ate more fat in the 1930s, 40s, and 50s, and were much slimmer as a population. 
The research all points to insulin.  The only hormone that promotes fat storage.

The insulin only matters if you're ingesting excess calories in the first place.

[Rman]

Incorrect. 

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=4362041487661765149&ei=H356SfLjMqnYqAPl2ZmIAg#

The author in this video looked at some Native American populations who became obese eating what most nutritionist would classify as a low calorie diet.  Why? Because they were massively insulin resistant from their diets--which was based on sugar and white flour products. 

The human body is very complex.  You can't just trust in the law of thermodynamics in such a complex structure, with cells, hormones, etc.  We're not machines, so we can't just use the same calories in, calories out reasoning here.  The quality of the calories also matter.

 

[brawndolicious]

because they were born and raised on such diets.

Why do you think Atkins became so controversial?

[Rman]

because they were born and raised on such diets.

Why do you think Atkins became so controversial?

I don't get your premise.  You mention that we shouldn't be consuming more than a third of our calories from fat, but then when I provide a example, you just change your argument altogether.  And then you mention Atkins, without any coherent relation between your two statements.  Where's the tie in?  Where's your evidence--concrete at that--that consuming more than a third of your calories from fat is harmful and causative of weight gain?

[Fresh Prince]

Let me translate. Native Americans since for thousands of years were raised on a diet on mainly fats and proteins etc. their bodies, metabolism developed accordingly. Now that you introduce a larger carbohydrate intake their bodies reacted adversely.

[Rman]

That's not just Native American, Fresh Prince. 

Look, in the end, eat what you want.  It's your body and your life.  But to vilify perfectly healthy fats and ignore the big elephant room--fructose, sucrose, and white flour products, which is what contemporary dietary science has done in the last 40 or so years is a travesty. 

Again, I enjoy some carbs as I love to eat out and I love all things food related, but to say carbs are easier to digest and are easier to metabolize is just factually wrong.

[Fresh Prince]

I did not look at the video so yes I don't know what am nintendo is going on about.

I'm sticking with carbs, easily digestable, readily available

[Cormacaroni]

I did not look at the video so yes I don't know what am nintendo is going on about.

I'm sticking with carbs, easily digestable, readily available

And yet you are 210lbs and want to lose weight. OK, tune it out and see where it gets you.

(Carbs aren't actually 'easily digestible' - try eating wheat, corn or sugar in its raw form. The amount of shit you have to do to most carbs just to ingest them is incredible. You don't have to ferment or grind meat or eggs).

[Cormacaroni]

Let me translate. Native Americans since for thousands of years were raised on a diet on mainly fats and proteins etc. their bodies, metabolism developed accordingly. Now that you introduce a larger carbohydrate intake their bodies reacted adversely.

HO HO HO

And everyone else in America who eats the same fucking Wal-Mart frozen deep-fried fast food junk food shit is in tip-top health, I suppose

[Fresh Prince]

I refer to this and probably actually follow it in the future once I become more competitive : http://www.ausport.gov.au/ais/nutrition/factsheets/sports/road_cycling

I was talking from the perspective of am nintendo since I didn't watch the video anyways.

[Cormacaroni]

No-one can translate am nintenho, it just can't be done. That's why at this point I just want him to stop. Every time he posts I feel compelled to spend 2 pages just fighting the insane disinformation.

If you think you are training like an elite cyclist, fine, follow that diet. At any level of activity below that, you'll fucking balloon. Seriously, I invite anyone to have a look at what Michael Phelps eats in a day while training and tell me that they think they could survive eating like that for 5 yrs. He can do it because training is his JOB.

[brawndolicious]

because they were born and raised on such diets.
Why do you think Atkins became so controversial?

I don't get your premise.  You mention that we shouldn't be consuming more than a third of our calories from fat, but then when I provide a example, you just change your argument altogether.  And then you mention Atkins, without any coherent relation between your two statements.  Where's the tie in?  Where's your evidence--concrete at that--that consuming more than a third of your calories from fat is harmful and causative of weight gain?

http://www.who.int/hpr/NPH/docs/who_fao_expert_report.pdf
Recommends about 1/3 fats on page 66, obviously credible source.

I don't see where I ever changed my arguments...

[Fresh Prince]

No-one can translate am nintenho, it just can't be done. That's why at this point I just want him to stop. Every time he posts I feel compelled to spend 2 pages just fighting the insane disinformation.

If you think you are training like an elite cyclist, fine, follow that diet. At any level of activity below that, you'll fucking balloon. Seriously, I invite anyone to have a look at what Michael Phelps eats in a day while training and tell me that they think they could survive eating like that for 5 yrs. He can do it because training is his JOB.

I would refer myself as club cyclist in the future. But I eat a 'normal' diet now.

[Cormacaroni]

Why

[Fresh Prince]

Why? Regarding what exactly?

[Cormacaroni]

Why do you eat a 'normal' diet

[Fresh Prince]

Okay cormac what would you reccomend?

[Cormacaroni]

I'm trying to determine if you have any purpose related to fitness or diet.

[Fresh Prince]

I just got my road bike today. I plan to join a club and compete within the next few weeks.

[Cormacaroni]

So now you don't do anything and you eat 'normally'?

[Fresh Prince]

I commute about 20ks daily. On the weekend sometimes I'll ride 50ks. Small potatoes.
Though I ride at a higher intensity than most.

I will admit when I first started doing a longer commute I used to eat a bit more but now I've cut back.

[Cormacaroni]

ok, I think it's safe to say that you don't have any special need for a high-carb diet right now, and you have nothing to lose by getting off it and onto something healthier. I would recommend reading and applying this:

http://www.marksdailyapple.com/definitive-guide-to-the-primal-eating-plan/

That's from Mark Sisson, a former long distance runner and triathlete. If you dig around on his site, he'll also tell you why he no longer trains long slow distance (LSD).

[Fresh Prince]

Will look into it.

[Cormacaroni]

Good chap.

Less reading am nintenho, more reading Mark Sisson. World a better place already. 

[Mupepe]

So I haven't been as active in here lately, but I thought I'd give an update.

deloading down to 195 helped me destroy 215.  Now at 220 (just hit it yesterday)

I'm at 235 with deadlift and it definitely makes me sore and I can feel it, but it's still not a huge struggle yet.  I feel I could do a couple more sets but I'm not going to push it.  I'm still doing it every other session.

I'm about to cycle off of creatine.

I'm not sure what my normal size gains would have been had I not been on creatine since most of what i was seeing was newbie gains before and my routine has changed quite a bit but these are the differences since I began...

Bench Press Gains - 170 to 220 (probably 225 by the end of the week when I should finish my cycle)
Pullups - Went from 1 to about 7
Deadlift - Started at 135 and am now at 235
Squat - I was about 180/190 when I began and I'm at 245 right now
Shoulder Press - Started at 60 and right now I'm at 105 and increasing by 5 every session (newbie gains still I suppose)

Other than that I do my situps, dips and pushups.  But situps and pushups have been steady for a while.  300 a session for situps and 3 sets of 30 pushups right now.  Dips vary but I can generally do around 8 a set.

I gained about an 1 1/4 inch in my bicep during the last two months and about an inch on my chest.  I can post pics as well if you guys would like.  For this though, I don't know how much is pure water retention and how much is going to stay when I cycle off.  I didn't measure my legs or anywhere else to really compare to so I didn't bother measuring those.  I'll do it before I start my next cycle in a couple of months.

I also managed to lose a good amount of fat around my mid section.  I haven't been weighing myself because of water weight so I knew I gained, but I'll do it after I finish my cycle.  I know I have gained quite a bit of weight in muscle mass.  I can feel it especially in my back, chest and shoulders.

[Cormacaroni]

A boy dies, a man is born

Rob Thomas

[brawndolicious]

Good chap.

Less reading am nintenho, more reading Mark Sisson. World a better place already. 

For the record, I have no problem with some people having a protein/fat centric diet as that is ideal for some metabolisms.  But for others, and the majority of people according to the WHO, a carb-centric diet is better for their physiology.  Obviously, with something like dieting there's a lot of variables and depending on what you were raised on and what fitness goals you have and so there's a lot of different ideal diets depending on the person.

[Cormacaroni]

Oh come on, there is nothing special about the physiology of people who eat Paleo/Zone/low-carb other than what's between their ears. You continue to trumpet conventional wisdom that is incredibly slow to change, regardless of the results that should be clear to any physician with a brain.

The entirety of global agriculture and food supply is predicated on a carb-heavy diet laden with HFCS, refined sugar etc, so there are PROFOUND forces at work to prevent the kind of change in diet that I'm advocating. That doesn't mean that individuals can't think for themselves, assess the evidence and act upon it. Try eating this way for a month and you simply will stop caring what obese old men recommend, much like I disregard the advice of any physician who tells me that squatting is dangerous or unhealthy.

[pollo]

1600 calories??! Wilco, is you serious? You're f'n 300 lbs and you only consume 1600 calories?!? Dude, that's NOT healthy..

[Cormacaroni]

Willco can't win!

[Mupepe]

1600 calories??! Wilco, is you serious? You're f'n 300 lbs and you only consume 1600 calories?!? Dude, that's NOT healthy..

This is what i was thinking but i figured I'd keep my mouth shut to avoid an argument with wrika and am nintenho.

1200 is dangerous for a person of normal weight.  1600 for someone whose body is used to consuming much more seems low.  I've said it before but I'll say it again, I believe you're consuming too few calories and your metabolism is in starvation mode and beginning to pack shit away.  But I was ignored before and I'm sure I'll be ignored again because the general distinguished mentally-challenged fucking consensus in this thread is that if you're not losing as much weight cut more calories! God forbid someone just suggest changing up your routine a little.  If you're been doing the same amount/type of cardio this whole time your body is going to adjust.  Try something different.  If you're on the elliptical, try the treadmill or try the stationary.  Or like you said, add a walk around the lake with your current routine.  Try eating a little more perhaps.  I mean, you're not going to lose like you were before.  You can't keep it up.  It's going to slow down to a steady loss to one or two pounds a week.  Don't be discouraged, that's normal.  Since you've lost so much weight, your maintenance calorie intake has also lowered which means you're not putting as big of a dent in like you were before.  A safe bet IMO is a calorie deficit of 500 a day.  That's a pound a week without exercise.  Throw in some exercise and you can easily lose two pounds a week.  Try eating 2000 to 2500 calories a day of *GOOD* food with a little change in your routine and I'll guarantee you'll lose a steady amount of weight.

[The Fake Shemp]

Willco can't win!

I know!

[brawndolicious]

1600 calories??! Wilco, is you serious? You're f'n 300 lbs and you only consume 1600 calories?!? Dude, that's NOT healthy..

This is what i was thinking but i figured I'd keep my mouth shut to avoid an argument with wrika and am nintenho.

It does sound low to me.
 
Will, isn't your basal metabolic rate around 2,000 Calories?

[Mupepe]

my bad, i thought you were one of the other dudes saying "eat less, exercise more!" earlier.  My apologies.

[The Fake Shemp]

My metabolic rate is over 2,000 calories. I was told by a nutritionist that I should actually eat around 2,200 calories at my weight and to add the extra calories by eating more fruit and snacks between meals.

Also, I've entered a new phase of fitness: vitamins.

Been having some issues working out as of late, was told that I need some vitamins. So I went to THE VITAMIN SHOPPE, which is ridiculous. I didn't even know places like that existed. There is like an entire aisle dedicated to keeping your cock hard for ten hours straight.

[Mupepe]

 

I don't know anything about vitamins.  I have never really seen a professional regarding my routine, but I'd imagine that I'm probably deficient :'(

And I told you that you should be eating more calories


As for me, last night I hit 240 with deadlift.  I think last night I was just having a bad night.  The entire day I was really, really fucking tired.  Spent most of it eating junk food, watching tv and painting and assembling a model car.  By gym time, I was yawning and wanted a nap (6:30pm).  I did worse on bench press than I've done in a long time, squats were a breeze, I was only able to get 2 pullups and then my negatives were basically crap by the fourth set.  I did deadlift but it was a bit of a struggle at 240.  Not a struggle to pick it up, but it felt like I was losing grip on the last rep although I managed to hold onto it and complete it.

I'm going to assume it was just a bad/lazy day because everything sucked and today I feel great.  So I'll see how it goes tomorrow or how the other half of my routine feels today. 

[Kestastrophe]

I think last night I was just having a bad night.  The entire day I was really, really fucking tired. 

Didn't you just come off creatine? Anyways, I started taking creatine a few weeks ago (in pill form, don't retain water due to it being hydrochloride). I haven't noticed much difference, if any. I might have more energy, but that could just be because I am getting fitter. Also, I've been constantly hungry since taking it

http://www.gnc.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3480831&CAWELAID=326907638

[Mupepe]

Yeah, I just came off of it and I realized that might be it.  I have been off of it a few days though, so I dunno.  I'll see tonight.

I heard monohydrate gave the best results so that's why I took it.  You should definitely be feeling a difference by now I'd imagine.  I heard a lot of the other kinds aren't really that effective.  Monohydrate worked pretty great for me aside from the massive amount of water I needed to drink.

[WrikaWrek]

I'm just gonna stop giving advice.

I gave advice based on my own experience. Dangerous, whatever. If you go to a nutritionist whatever, you will take 2 years losing what you can lose in 6/8 months.

It's healthier sure, don't really give a shit about that though, you have the rest of your life to get healthy as a bull. I take vitamins and oil fish too.

Just do whatever your nutritionist tells you to, and follow Rob Thomas advice. At the end of the day, truth is, if you are losing more than your are consuming, then you are losing weight. A million steps journey always starts with one step so hey.

And goddamnit, not even brown rice is safe? Man this is getting boring.

[Mupepe]

I don't think the problem is that your advice is "unhealthy" or whatever, it's just that for some people it really stops working.  I'm not trying to sound like an ass, but when someone is really big it's a lot different than someone who is just overweight.  At a certain point, your body responds differently to the old consensus of "lower calories and more exercise".  It will eat the muscles you have and save whatever is being consumed and turn it into fat for later use.  I experienced this when I lost about 60 lbs.  I tried to keep up my rigorous routine of biking, running and lifting weights 6 days a week and eating as little as possible.  I got really tired and could barely do anything.  I resumed weight loss by eating a little bit more and taking it easier.  I shifted my focus from "weight loss, weight loss, weight loss" to a calculated, healthy routine and my weight loss continued and I had energy.  His body is just adapting to the situation and so he needs to change it up a bit.

and fuck it, brown rice is delicious.

[pollo]

My metabolic rate is over 2,000 calories. I was told by a nutritionist that I should actually eat around 2,200 calories at my weight and to add the extra calories by eating more fruit and snacks between meals.

Also, I've entered a new phase of fitness: vitamins.

Been having some issues working out as of late, was told that I need some vitamins. So I went to THE VITAMIN SHOPPE, which is ridiculous. I didn't even know places like that existed. There is like an entire aisle dedicated to keeping your cock hard for ten hours straight.

So then, why is you eating only 1600 calories?

BTW I'm sure Camacaroni or whatever has schooled you on a Low-Carb diet, yes? It works. Cut the pasta, rice. Stick to meats, nuts, veggies, some (not all kinds of) fruit. You'll be good. For a person your size you could be eating 2500 calories and still be losing weight.

Here's some good GAF advice on the matter:

The whole calories in vesus calories out thing is misguided because:

1. You're insinuating that the body does not change hunger/CaloriesIn based on CaloriesOut.

2. You're inferring causality without a basis. Saying that overeating is the cause of obesity is like saying that drinking too much causes alcoholism. It doesn't explain why the person does it.

3. Your equation, I'm assuming is this:

deltaCalories = CaloriesIn - CaloriesOut.

It's wrong. Here is the correct equation:

0 = CaloriesIn - CaloriesOut +/- CaloriesToOrFromFat +/- caloriesFromCannibalizedTissueOrReducedMetabolism


Insulin controls the flow of calories into fat. If insulin is high, calories go into fat cells, regardless of the number of calories needed vs consumed.

So if you eat a high carb diet that has a high insulin response, you may need 2500 calories in your muscles, organs. Insulin doesn't care, it was the evolutionary response to a bunch sugary fruits and vegetables showing up just before periods of famine (winter). Your body is programmed to store fat, because natural selection has weeded out genetics such that people store fat in anticipation of winter/famine. It is also a way for the body to reduce blood sugar, that only carbs raise so that it doesn't get to toxic levels.

So check out happens to this equation when you consume 2500 calories, but insulin stores 400 calories as fat:

0 = CaloriesIn - CaloresOut +/- CaloriesToOrFromFat +/- caloriesFromCannibalizedTissueOrReducedMetabolism


0 = 2500 - CaloriesOut - 400 +/- caloriesFromCannibalizedTissueOrReducedMetabolism
0 = 2100 - CaloriesOut +/- caloriesFromCannibalizedTissueOrReducedMetabolism
2100 = CaloriesOut +/- caloriesFromCannibalizedTissueOrReducedMetabolism

Now suppose your muscles and organs need 2500 calories under normal metabolic rate to break even.

2100 = 2500 +/- caloriesFromCannibalizedTissueOrReducedMetabolism
caloriesFromCannibalizedTissueOrReducedMetabolism = 400

This means that you need to:
1. Reduce your metabolic rate. Ie, your body intentionally weakens you through fatigue or poor circulation/heat.

2. Cannibalize muscles and organs.

3. Overeat (but you still gain fat regardless if you decide to).


It is only until the body reduces insulin, or that body fat is accumulated enough such that current insulin levels cannot hold any more fat, that this problem goes away.

If you go on a low carb diet, insulin is reduced, the body fat % setpoint is reduced, and the body just feasts on body fat until the new setpoint is reached without exercise or hunger.



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edit - I'm not saying it's right that I am figuring it this way or right that people treat it this way... just pointing out that to many, low carb means eliminate the carbs which effectively is creating the calorie deficit for weight loss.

Not necessarily. There are several studies from the 1950s/1960s on Pennington's diet (Atkins basically) where subjects consume 3-5k calories, lose fat and gain muscle. Their muscles were so deprived on energy due to excessive insulin, that simply getting the muscles a stable supply of energy made them grow to their natural, unstimulated size.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=20772068&postcount=796

and

People get fat from insulin. Without insulin you cannot store fat. The higher the blood sugar response of food, the more insulin your body creates.

They have injected rats with insulin and they starve to death. They die of heart failure because their heart muscle has been cannibalized. They also die obese. The fat was never used because the hormone insulin told the body not to use it.



Look, I'm not saying that exercise doesn't make you healthier, and I think carbohydrates have their use for sports and athletics, but they aren't essential and they are the reason why people get fat. Not because they're lazy, but because hormones store fat REGARDLESS OF CALORIC INTAKE.

Edit: But let me also say that I don't blame you for believing in calories in versus calories out. I somewhat believed that for a long time until the mountains of scientific evidence proved me otherwise.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=20771765&postcount=795

[Cormacaroni]

Good post, pollo. It just can't be said enough times: Carbs drive insulin drives fat storage. People don't want to hear the message because it means changing your diet radically instead of just eating less of the crap you ate before.

Want to gain weight? Eat more simple carbs. Want to lose weight? Cut out simple carbs. Want to lose weight and gain performance? Cut out simple carbs, eat more fats.

Business - Lookin' good. You're going to need more than another 5lbs to get your bench up that high I bet. I know jack shit about serious benching of course, but just based of general principles...You're probably going to need to squat and deadlift heavy to grow the extra muscle too, assuming you're not already doing that.

[WrikaWrek]

So just wanted to ask, can i really eat a whole egg + 2 egg whites everyday and not worry about having a heart stroke? (you know what i mean, cholesterol levels)

I work out everyday besides sunday, which from what i read make it ok. But i'm kinda doing less and less cardio everyday simple because, i'm starting to spend so much energy in hypertrophy that i just don't have it to then go out and do 15 to 20 min of HIIT.

I barely do any cardio now...is it ok? Don't know why but i kinda connected the whole "you can eat eggs if you do good cardio" for some reason.

[Rman]

Don't worry about cholesterol from eggs.  The dietary cholesterol fear is vastly overrated. Limiting sugar, refined carbs, and fixing improper Omega 6/3 imbalance are more important to cardiovascular health.

[Cormacaroni]

co-sign what RMan says (as usual).

Anecdotal: I eat (whole) eggs practically every day and my blood work has been excellent for the past 3yrs. That's all the proof I need. I did feel a bit queasy the one day I had an omelette with 3 whole eggs and 4 YOLKS (leftover from baking) but otherwise, eggs are

[Mupepe]

Don't worry about cholesterol from eggs.  The dietary cholesterol fear is vastly overrated. Limiting sugar, refined carbs, and fixing improper Omega 6/3 imbalance are more important to cardiovascular health.

I try telling this to my mother in law who is always scolding my wife because she lets me eat so many eggs.  She always tells me I need to eat more carbs because I usually refuse bread and tortillas.