Anyone see a company self-destruct like Toyota?

[Flannel Boy]

Ford seemed to turnaround as soon as I left.

Coincidence? I think not.

[Tauntaun]

Ford seemed to turnaround as soon as I left.

Coincidence? I think not.

You took their jerbs! 

[Mr. Gundam]

Why can't this incident screw up the yen-dollar exchange rate? It keeps on going down... yeargh.

[Mupepe]

My favorite is my 4x4 F 150.  Take that fucker off roading.  It's a fucking beast.

Also, the 4.6l block that has been in the Mustang GT's for awhile (until the 2011 model, it goes back to 5.0).  Those fucking motors are rock fucking solid.  Fords are just generally tough fuckers.  Compared to Chevy's, they might not always be as purty or have as much HP, but it sure as hell beats a Chevy when it's still running 10 years later

[Mupepe]

Pfft

[AdmiralViscen]

I'm not sure why everyone thinks that the public is going to suddenly love Fords.  I would buy a Honda/Hyundai or lease a Volkswagen before I bothered getting an American car.

Might be the double-digit sales gains tipping them off.

[Kestastrophe]

I would buy a Honda/Hyundai or lease a Volkswagen before I bothered getting an American car.

Do you enjoy subsidizing accelerated depreciation?

[AdmiralViscen]

When is the last time Ford, or even GM, fell behind VW in a quality survey? 2002 maybe?

[Mupepe]

Hey, quiet you.  American cars are crap.  Japas and Eurofags said so.  End of story. 

[Mr. Gundam]

I don't have anything against American cars. My first car was a 1992 Ford Escort that lasted me through college and graduate school. Poor thing finally kicked the bucket last February.

[Mupepe]

My Mazda 626 that had a stuck spark plug I couldn't remove, cracked windshield, broken taillight and turn signal, bad starter and ate belts like Kim Kardashian's ass eats thongs is still kicking somewhere.  The people I sold it to never got it out of my name and they got a parking ticket downtown last week.

[GoofyGoober]

I have an American made Corolla. The Sienna is American made too. Honda has not always had rock solid cars, but still more reliable then the eurocrap. I had two Honda before, both had recalls for transmission issues. I had a friend who kept her Pilot and it has Transmission problems.

[Van Cruncheon]

FOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRDDDDDDDDDDDD! 

built ford tough

my fusion ain't had no recalls

[Van Cruncheon]

My favorite is my 4x4 F 150.  Take that fucker off roading.  It's a fucking beast.

Also, the 4.6l block that has been in the Mustang GT's for awhile (until the 2011 model, it goes back to 5.0).  Those fucking motors are rock fucking solid.  Fords are just generally tough fuckers.  Compared to Chevy's, they might not always be as purty or have as much HP, but it sure as hell beats a Chevy when it's still running 10 years later

[GoofyGoober]

My favorite is my 4x4 F 150.  Take that fucker off roading.  It's a fucking beast.

Also, the 4.6l block that has been in the Mustang GT's for awhile (until the 2011 model, it goes back to 5.0).  Those fucking motors are rock fucking solid.  Fords are just generally tough fuckers.  Compared to Chevy's, they might not always be as purty or have as much HP, but it sure as hell beats a Chevy when it's still running 10 years later

That motor was used in way more then just the mustang. I had a thunderbird with that motor. Awesome motor. I still think the Yamaha motor in my SHO was way more kick ass.

[Joe Molotov]

I just saw a Toyota commercial where they were like "Sorry our cars are deathtraps, we're trying harder now."

[Howard Alan Treesong]

It's a vicious circle, I know, but TV is making dumb people is making TV is making dumb people blah blah blah. Shame on us for letting this happen, but it's gonna be a hard thing to reverse now

tangent : but i watched the BBC news for some time yesterday for the first time in an age and i was stunned by the level of stupidity.

The usually serious news paper section focused on one article : Bradjalina or whatever

followed by an article on how women can still get pregnant at 40, so you should still use condoms.

As Groo says... dumb tv for dumb people.

What?! Why did I bother visiting Cougartown in the first place?!

[Boogie]

FOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRDDDDDDDDDDDD! 

built ford tough

my fusion ain't had no recalls

The Fusion is a solid car. I've driven one for work, and thoroughly enjoyed driving it.

Thought version one of it was a bit on the butt-ugly side, however, at least on the front end.  I dig the redesign, though, it's fuckin' sexy.

[Human Snorenado]

It's a vicious circle, I know, but TV is making dumb people is making TV is making dumb people blah blah blah. Shame on us for letting this happen, but it's gonna be a hard thing to reverse now

tangent : but i watched the BBC news for some time yesterday for the first time in an age and i was stunned by the level of stupidity.

The usually serious news paper section focused on one article : Bradjalina or whatever

followed by an article on how women can still get pregnant at 40, so you should still use condoms.

As Groo says... dumb tv for dumb people.

The sad thing is... American news is EXPONENTIALLY DUMBER.  It's true, I watch BBC America on PBS a couple times a week and it makes me feel sad to be an American.

edit: Forget it, Patel.  It's Cougartown.

[Mupepe]

FOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRDDDDDDDDDDDD! 

built ford tough

my fusion ain't had no recalls

Goddamn right! 

My favorite is my 4x4 F 150.  Take that fucker off roading.  It's a fucking beast.

Also, the 4.6l block that has been in the Mustang GT's for awhile (until the 2011 model, it goes back to 5.0).  Those fucking motors are rock fucking solid.  Fords are just generally tough fuckers.  Compared to Chevy's, they might not always be as purty or have as much HP, but it sure as hell beats a Chevy when it's still running 10 years later

That motor was used in way more then just the mustang. I had a thunderbird with that motor. Awesome motor. I still think the Yamaha motor in my SHO was way more kick ass.

Yeah, the motor is also used in some light trucks.  Ford has had it for a while and it's just a solid fucking design. 

My favorite motor was actually a Ford designed motor in my Mazda 626.  That fucking thing would not quit.  I didn't change the oil in it for over 2 years (I was actually trying my hardest to kill it!).

[Kestastrophe]

The sad thing is... American news is EXPONENTIALLY DUMBER.  It's true, I watch BBC America on PBS a couple times a week and it makes me feel sad to be an American.

Yeah, I really fucking hate this. NPR does pretty good too (in spite of their Dante's Inferno game piece that I heard yesterday )

[Mr. Gundam]

The sad thing is... American news is EXPONENTIALLY DUMBER.  It's true, I watch BBC America on PBS a couple times a week and it makes me feel sad to be an American.

Yeah, I really fucking hate this. NPR does pretty good too (in spite of their Dante's Inferno game piece that I heard yesterday )

I'll take NPR's fluff piece interviewing university scholars who are comparing Dante's poem to the game over what the networks give us.

[Kestastrophe]

Yeah, and to be fair the piece wasn't analyzing the merits of the game, only its ties to the classic literature. And they prefaced it by disclosing that the scholar's favorite game is God of War

[Mr. Gundam]

I love NPR.

[Himu]

You aren't Texan if you've never driven in a Ford truck before.

Ford 4 lyfe

[TripleA]

I can't think of any company atm, but Tiger Woods is pretty much Toyota in human form.

[Howard Alan Treesong]

FORD = Fix Or Repair Daily

[Van Cruncheon]

you mean Found On Road Dead, get your updated hillbilly slogans correct SIR

[Mupepe]

FORD = Fix Or Repair Daily

Dale: You know what Ford stands for dontcha?  Fix it again, Tony.
Hank: You're thinking of a Fiat, Dale.

[Mr. Gundam]

I realize this is a huge recall, but did the media ever go after the other car makers like this on previous recalls? Everyone seems really happy to stick it to Toyota. Can't really blame them, though, we'd do anything to help boost our economy right now.

[Mupepe]

I don't think there's been any recalls this huge in a while. 

[Dickie Dee]

I haven't much been paying attention to this (other than curiosity about the poster child for QA/QC allowed a major thing like this to slip through) so haven't really experienced the media freakout, but nothing the press likes more than taking someone down a notch from their lofty position.

[duckman2000]

I realize this is a huge recall, but did the media ever go after the other car makers like this on previous recalls? Everyone seems really happy to stick it to Toyota. Can't really blame them, though, we'd do anything to help boost our economy right now.

Aren't they mostly shutting down operations in the US, though? It might be good for GM or some shit, but major businesses closing down plants ain't great.

[Raban]

There is way too much Ford love in this thread.  I owned a Ford for 6 years and wouldn't even consider giving Fords the praise you guys do. 

Serious, this is the only place I've heard Ford praise.

[Flannel Boy]

There is way too much Ford love in this thread.  I owned a Ford for 6 years and wouldn't even consider giving Fords the praise you guys do. 

Serious, this is the only place I've heard Ford praise.

The 2010 Ford Fusion Hybrid ranks 1 out of 21 Affordable Midsize Cars. This ranking is based on our analysis of 13 published reviews and test drives of the Ford Fusion Hybrid, and our analysis of reliability and safety data.

http://usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/cars-trucks/Ford_Fusion-Hybrid/

Ford Taurus - What the Auto Press Says

The 2010 Ford Taurus ranks 1 out of 7 Affordable Large Cars. This ranking is based on our analysis of 17 published reviews and test drives of the Ford Taurus, and our analysis of reliability and safety data.

http://usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/cars-trucks/Ford_Taurus/

Ford Mustang - What the Auto Press Says

The 2010 Ford Mustang ranks 1 out of 4 Muscle Cars. This ranking is based on our analysis of 67 published reviews and test drives of the Ford Mustang, and our analysis of reliability and safety data.

http://usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/cars-trucks/Ford_Mustang/

Ford F-150 - What the Auto Press Says

The 2010 Ford F-150 ranks 1 out of 8 Full Size Pickup Trucks. This ranking is based on our analysis of 35 published reviews and test drives of the Ford F-150, and our analysis of reliability and safety data.

http://usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/cars-trucks/Ford_F-150/

[Flannel Boy]

I don't drive anything. Even if I were to buy a car, I couldn't afford a brand new 2010 model car anyway.

[Mupepe]

There is way too much Ford love in this thread.  I owned a Ford for 6 years (with that 4.6L engine you were jacking off over) and wouldn't even consider giving Fords the praise you guys do. 

Sounds like an operator error

[Himu]

There is way too much Ford love in this thread.  I owned a Ford for 6 years (with that 4.6L engine you were jacking off over) and wouldn't even consider giving Fords the praise you guys do. 

[Raban]

Edit your post to include my edit!

[brawndolicious]

You aren't Texan if you've never driven in a Ford truck before.

Ford 4 lyfe

Well they seem to have poor ergonomics but my only other experience with a truck was with a Tundra though so..

and also don't you drive a buick?

[Mupepe]

If by operator you mean plastic intake manifold. 

Ford

Meh. 

The LS2 and LS3 (C6 Corvette) engines also have plastic intake manifolds.  The plastic intake manifold issue has been overblown IMO.  The first castings that Ford did had issues that caused them to crack, but they have since been corrected.  It's usually the import people just whining about "omg american cars are plastic" again.

[Mupepe]

You aren't Texan if you've never driven in a Ford truck before.

Ford 4 lyfe

Well they seem to have poor ergonomics but my only other experience with a truck was with a Tundra though so..

and also don't you drive a buick?

My F 150 Lariat is comfy as fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

[brawndolicious]

It was like 4 years ago so they could have changed by now.  The one thing that really bothered me was the small distance between the gas and break pedals.

[Mupepe]

Oh.  I don't know about that.  I drive a Corvette and a Mini Cooper as my other cars so I'm used to that.

[TEEEPO]

high roller

[Mupepe]

i didn't say blown over!  i said overblown!  you just wanted to rearrange it for your own amusement!

My BMW made Mini Cooper is known for having several TSB's for the factory using the wrong size head gasket which causes overheating, head warping and bad bearings.  Oh yeah... and the inside of the water pump is plastic which causes failure at less than 20,000 miles.  You can play this game with almost any car manufacturer  

[Mupepe]

I realize this is a huge recall, but did the media ever go after the other car makers like this on previous recalls? Everyone seems really happy to stick it to Toyota. Can't really blame them, though, we'd do anything to help boost our economy right now.

Aren't they mostly shutting down operations in the US, though? It might be good for GM or some shit, but major businesses closing down plants ain't great.

I think they're idling them so workers are still getting paid.

BOOYA TOYOTA

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I'm just bitter that they discontinued the Supra :'(

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[Mupepe]

It's my wife's  :'(

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I drove it to work today :'(

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[Olivia Wilde Homo]

I drive a Saturn

As for televised news media, the American versions are so embarrassing I don't bother watching.  Americans like either celebrity news, stories about missing white women, overblown drama, or op-ed punditry.  Preferably sanitized "in yo FACE" punditry.

[ferrarimanf355]

Yeah, Ford's street cred is going up.

I'm considering getting a Camaro again, believe it or not. I can't decide... 

[Himu]

You aren't Texan if you've never driven in a Ford truck before.

Ford 4 lyfe

Well they seem to have poor ergonomics but my only other experience with a truck was with a Tundra though so..

and also don't you drive a buick?

I drive a Buick but that doesn't mean I haven't had experience with Ford. Most of the cars my family has ever owned are Ford.

[Human Snorenado]

Looks like another WACKY JAPPY manufacturer is having a recall.  This time it's Honda.

If this keeps up, Hyundai is gonna end up at the top of the class!

[Green Shinobi]

You know Hyundai is Korean, right?

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So are LG and Samsung.

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[brawndolicious]

I drive a Buick but that doesn't mean I haven't had experience with Ford. Most of the cars my family has ever owned are Ford.

well my bad then.

Looks like another WACKY JAPPY manufacturer is having a recall.  This time it's Honda.
If this keeps up, Hyundai is gonna end up at the top of the class!

well Hyundai is cool.  improved a lot in the last decade.

[Mr. Gundam]

You know Hyundai is Korean, right?

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So are LG and Samsung.

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So are Kia and Daewoo.

[Mr. Gundam]

Fila is Korean? Huh. I never knew that.

edit: Founded in Italy, now owned by a South Korean group since 2007.

[AdmiralViscen]

Then Daewoo is American, it's owned by GM lol

[Mr. Gundam]

Did anyone even own a Daewoo car in North America?

[HyperZoneWasAwesome]

Did anyone even own a Daewoo car in North America?

I've seen an actual Daewoo dealership on American soil.

I dunno how business was tho.

[Mr. Gundam]

Yeah, there was a Daewoo dealer in my hometown, but I don't think anyone ever bought one.