Nolan "mentoring" THE MAN OF STEEL; Goyer writing it.

[Ichirou]

Great idea, but it'll never happen.

[Cormacaroni]

Great idea, but it'll never happen.

It's happening in my head!

[brawndolicious]

I know, right!?

I say the dark, verisimilar reinvention has run its course.  We got Batman, James Bond, and Robin Hood.  Time to let camp, color, and imagination get a turn a turn at the wheel.

I would also say that Superman Returns squarely fit into the "emo-manchild" mold.  I definitely agree with you though.

[Mandark]

Great idea, but it'll never happen.

It's the sort of project a studio would back if Speed Racer had grossed $300 million.

...

 :'(

[Cormacaroni]

I know, right!?

I say the dark, verisimilar reinvention has run its course.  We got Batman, James Bond, and Robin Hood.  Time to let camp, color, and imagination get a turn a turn at the wheel.

I would also say that Superman Returns squarely fit into the "emo-manchild" mold.  I definitely agree with you though.

I would also say that pumpkins are orange. I definitely agree with you though.

[brawndolicious]

I know, right!?
I say the dark, verisimilar reinvention has run its course.  We got Batman, James Bond, and Robin Hood.  Time to let camp, color, and imagination get a turn a turn at the wheel.

I would also say that Superman Returns squarely fit into the "emo-manchild" mold.  I definitely agree with you though.

I would also say that pumpkins are orange. I definitely agree with you though.

I can see how that would be relevant if this was a thread discussing future evolutions of pumpkins.

[Diunx]

Mxyzptlk!

How would that not be awesome?

I can already see nerd rage if the actor doesn't correctly pronounce his name backwards

[The Fake Shemp]

Eh, I'm not really for that. I think Superman should be colorful and entertaining, but that doesn't necessarily mean it requires a campy, buzz-killer like Mxyxptlk.

I've felt that the joy has been sucked out of this franchise. Superman is inhuman and borderline creepy, he has no real adversaries to fight, nothing to get your blood pumping, etc.

Goyer should tap in that feeling, that childlike feeling of wanting to be Superman. Someone people can relate to. I don't want to see Superman sulk outside Lois' house like a creepy perv or fight Kevin Spacey over land disputes.

I feel, personally, a great way to address this is with Kal-El's Kryptonian heritage, but it remains to be seen if Goyer is thinking the same thing. Regardless, we need to root for Superman again - and that hasn't happened in a long time. He needs to get the shit beaten out of him.

[Great Rumbler]

I said it when the last movie came out and I'll sat it again: Superman needs to fight against a REAL enemy. A somewhat creepy, balding Lex Luthor with a chunk of kryptonite is NOT a real villain. Darkseid is a real villain. Apocalypse is a real villain. Braniac is a real villain. Or go crazy and have Ron Perlman as Lobo.

In Superman Returns is just really felt like there was nothing that could really get in Superman's way until "Oh, whoops, Luthor's got some kryptonite". That's just not going to cut it.

[Diunx]

The problem with Darkseid is that he doesn't come alone, you have all that fourth world stuff to develop in a two hours movie so the end result will be shit, the only way to do Darkseid right is to develop him during two or more films, between apokolips and new genesis there are too many characters for just one movie.

[Great Rumbler]

the only way to do Darkseid right is to develop him during two or more films

Which I would be okay with.