New Castlevania Lord of Shadows interview pisses on Igavania

[Himu]

New Lord of Shadows interview.

Game sounds promising, well, as promising as it can get.

http://www.vg247.com/2010/02/22/interview-castlevania-lords-of-shadows-dave-cox/

Here's a nice tidbit:

Q: Is this the end for “traditional” Castlevania?

Dave Cox: No, it’s the rebirth of “traditional” Castlevania.

[demi]

The rebirth of CASTLEVANIA 64

[Himu]

[Don Flamenco]

watching the AVGN series on Castlevania, it made me want a sequel to Super Castlevania IV.  which is what a rebirth of traditional castlevania would be.  Not this GoW rip-off sequel to Curse of Darkness     WHAT THE FUCK IS A COMBAT CROSS GODDAMMMMMMIT

Konami should make Castlevania 5 for XBL ala Mega Man 9 

[Howard Alan Treesong]

New Lord of Shadows interview.

Game sounds promising, well, as promising as it can get.

http://www.vg247.com/2010/02/22/interview-castlevania-lords-of-shadows-dave-cox/

Here's a nice tidbit:

Q: Is this the end for “traditional” Castlevania?

Dave Cox: No, it’s the rebirth of “traditional” Castlevania.

[OptimoPeach]

watching the AVGN series on Castlevania, it made me want a sequel to Super Castlevania IV.  which is what a rebirth of traditional castlevania would be

Ha, I just watched that yesterday

[Arbys Roast Beef Sandwich]

Didn't they just release Castlevania Rebirth?

[Bebpo]

Because DMC/GoW is as traditional as it gets, am i right

[Cravis]

But..... but .....but Kojima is overseeing this. 

Castlevania needs to stay 2D.

[Himu]

Rondo > Castlevania IV

[cool breeze]

watching the AVGN series on Castlevania, it made me want a sequel to Super Castlevania IV.  which is what a rebirth of traditional castlevania would be.  Not this GoW rip-off sequel to Curse of Darkness     WHAT THE FUCK IS A COMBAT CROSS GODDAMMMMMMIT

Konami should make Castlevania 5 for XBL ala Mega Man 9 

Castlevania Rebirth is pretty awesome, but it's Wii only.

as for a Super Castlevania 4 sequel, w/e, I like Rondo gameplay more and that's what Rebirth mostly is, even though it seems everyone love 4 the most.

Also, Igavania games (that term...) weren't bad or anything.  Harmony was bad, then the next three were great, and it ended with OoE, another bad one.  Three out of five isn't that bad, especially when before OoE there was a streak of good games.  I mean, hate on the PS2 games, but the GBA/DS ones were good.  Granted, they didn't change game to game, but w/e.

[Don Flamenco]

Stupid western developers...without the blood of the nihonese flowing in their veins, they can never make a good version of a japanese game.  Kojima's oversight doesn't count, since he's a traitor to his people.  Metroid Prime doesn't count because NOJ was just dictating the game and having the dirty americans to do the grunt work of programming. 



back on topic--

I like 4 better than Rondo...totally agree with AVGN about feeling more in control in 4.  It's easier, but the graphics, music, and everything in 4 just push it over the edge for me.   I need to get a copy of 4 for the snes, but for some reason it's going for like $25 to $30 now, instead of the $12-$15 it used to cost. 

How's Dracula X?  why do people hate it?

[demi]

Is CV4 going that much? Better dump my copy then

[Don Flamenco]

according to My glances on eBay/half/amazon over the past few days

[Positive Touch]

why the hell would you buy retro games nowadays?

Is CV4 going that much? Better dump my copy then

same here

[Don Flamenco]

why the hell would you buy retro games nowadays?

Is CV4 going that much? Better dump my copy then

same here

because your mom

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Anything to break the excruciating monotony that is the Metroidvania title is fine with me.

[Positive Touch]

why the hell would you buy retro games nowadays?

Is CV4 going that much? Better dump my copy then

same here

because your mom

actually my mom enjoys newer games more than the old ones

also is it it wrong that iga's attempt to make a more cohesive cv timeline totally gave me nerd boners?

[Don Flamenco]

why the hell would you buy retro games nowadays?

Is CV4 going that much? Better dump my copy then

same here

because your mom

actually my mom enjoys newer games more than the old ones

also is it it wrong that iga's attempt to make a more cohesive cv timeline totally gave me nerd boners?

I just bought a bunch of retro stuff :'(    I will buy someone's copy of Castlevania 4...if anyone wants to charge less than 20 for it.

The belmont storyline in the early games was cool, but all that Soma Cruz stuff was pretty ghey

[Sho Nuff]

I wonder if this will be another case of Japanese publishing giant saying "WE NEED A HUGE AAA WESTERN FRANCHISE" and then budgeting $2.95 and a paper cup

[maxy]

Some interesting news concerning 360 version

2 discs...nothing unusual except

first LOS Xbox disc will offer an install option on the in-game menu, allowing gamers to play the full title off the second disc.

First multi-disc game that allows that

MS 

Game is still perfectly playable without installing of course,but if you have enough space and install you only need one disc...like in PC games


Ending cutscene is 14 minutes long though

[Bebpo]

14 mins for THE ENDING sounds normal for games these days, I don't even know why it's mentioned.  Hell, Gears of War's ending is probably close to that when you include the credits roll.

[MCD]

But Gears credits roll is the best shit ever.

[SantaC]

I dont understand why people think this new 3D vania will be better than what IGA used to release? Better production yes, but gameplay will be shitty. Atleast IGA's games has pretty damn good gameplay. Even his butchered 3D castlevania games are campy fun.

[SantaC]

It should have had an open world to explore!

play curse of darkness

[Diunx]

I think they need to add some destructible environments up in this bitch modern games

[Shuri]

The first castlevanias on the gba were great, but they milked it to death. I'm glad they are rebooting the franchise.

[MoxManiac]

IGA

[Himu]

I dont understand why people think this new 3D vania will be better than what IGA used to release? Better production yes, but gameplay will be shitty. Atleast IGA's games has pretty damn good gameplay. Even his butchered 3D castlevania games are campy fun.

I sorta agree but I still have faith. Have you seen the clock tower vid? Worst clocktower in a CV to my memory.

[Diunx]

The clock tower sucks in every castlevania game so that is not really saying much about the quality of this here game.

[Don Flamenco]

I dont understand why people think this new 3D vania will be better than what IGA used to release? Better production yes, but gameplay will be shitty. Atleast IGA's games has pretty damn good gameplay. Even his butchered 3D castlevania games are campy fun.

agreed.  haven't seen anything about this game that makes me think it isn't the product of Konami going "hey shitty western dev, see God of War? We want that but with Castlevania, thx"

[Bebpo]

[youtube=560,345][/youtube]

Looks better than any DS Igavania. 

Awesome music, awesome atmosphere that just screams Castlevania.  Good voice acting.  Combat looks solid.  50 stages, 20 hours long.  Gonna be awesome!

[Howard Alan Treesong]

looks absolutely awful, Bebpo irredeemable

[Howard Alan Treesong]

why are all the subtitles and gameplay instructions in Arial? did they spend so much on the voice acting they couldn't afford a decent font?

spoiler (click to show/hide)

or animator

[close]

[Bebpo]

Iga is a hack.

He hasn't made a great game since SoTN.  Just keeps remaking the same game over and over and over again.


Classic CV >>>>>>>>>> Metroidvania


This looks closer to Drac X than Metroidvania

[youtube=560,345][/youtube]

[Beezy]

I seriously hope this game bombs hard. The GoW clone genre needs to die.

[demi]

Looks like shit... sorry Bebpo. CAstlevania 64 is probably better than this turd.

[Bebpo]

Why is castlevania guy riding a fucking magic horse?

Because CV has never had magic or horses in it 

[Howard Alan Treesong]

I would rather replay any GBA/DS IGAvania pulled out of a hat, up to and including Circle of the Moon, than this awful-looking turd.

"Press RT to jump onto the Warg."
"Try to block (LT) in time with an enemy attack."
"Press X repeatedly now!!"

zzzz ha hork listening

[Bebpo]

It's a tutorial.  It has tutorial messages.  World does not end.

It looks like a competent 3d action game that carries the Castlevania name well.  Will hopefully sell 100x more than the DS games and make sure there's no more metroidvanias ever.

[Howard Alan Treesong]

glowing runes are the new tribal tattoos

your tech artist spent 6 weeks coding the ambient occlusion lighting system and that means EVERY CREATURE IN THE GAME WILL ALSO BE A LIGHT SOURCE okay

It's a tutorial.  It has tutorial messages.  World does not end.

In a fucking sans-serif Arial-wannabe. How am I supposed to take the game does seriously if the UI artist isn't even going to pretend to bother?

[The Sceneman]

Uh, this looks incredible. Day 1 purchase here.

Also who is Treesong? Triumph?

[Bebpo]

Can any of you honestly say you don't want to play this:

[Howard Alan Treesong]

Guys, I'm colorblind. Who's responsible for how boring that looks: me or the environment artists?

Maybe the game can be subtitled "Attack of the Browny Browns"

[Beezy]

Honestly, the combat in this so far looks worse than Dante's Inferno.

[T-Short]

castlespainia huahua. art is pretty good in some places, gameplay and story elements looks pretty terrible. nice phoned-in voicework as well

[Howard Alan Treesong]

Guys, I'm colorblind. Who's responsible for how boring that looks: me or the environment artists?

Maybe the game can be subtitled "Attack of the Browny Browns"

If all you're seeing is shades of brown that's not because you're colorblind.

Okay cool I thought maybe there was a rich palette of reds and greens I was missing out on.

[Howard Alan Treesong]

THREAD HIJACK

Let's talk about Ghost Trick

[youtube=560,345][/youtube]

Innovative gameplay
Stylized graphics
Colors

[demi]

Can any of you honestly say you don't want to play this:

(Image removed from quote.)

Play that? Where is that in the video?

[Bebpo]

It's a tutorial.  It has tutorial messages.  World does not end.

It looks like a competent 3d action game that carries the Castlevania name well.  Will hopefully sell 100x more than the DS games and make sure there's no more metroidvanias ever.

So basically you want more throwaway GoW clones than awesome side-scrolling badass games?

So at some point every 3d CV game became a "derivative" DMC/GoW clone and at no point did 2d CV become a "derivative" Super Metroid clone?

The double standards of the CV fanbase are distinguished mentally-challenged.  CV is about WHIPPIN CV enemies, jumping platforms, and exploring a gothic castle and fighting Drac and Death and shit.  YOU CAN DO THAT IN 3D TOO.  
It's not like the 2d CVs have deep combat.  You slash a guy and then jump back or duck and then slash a game.  On bosses you dodge the pattern and then counter.  YOU CAN DO THAT IN 3D TOO.

If you take Castlevania pre-SoTN and made it into 3d, even if GoW/DMC never existed, it would still look pretty much like this because that's just how CV translates to 3D.  What the hell do you guys want a 3D CV to look like?  Metroid Prime? Tomb Raider?  The only really GoW clone stuff is the health fountains and arena fights.  I wouldn't call it being "cinematic" GoW inspired, since every game on earth is trying to be cinematic these days.

[Bebpo]

Yeah, too much brown in the game, right?




Next you'll be shouting "wtf, CV isn't supposed to have colors and be green!"

[Howard Alan Treesong]

those screenshots don't look any better. still messy and still all one color.

[demi]

Real talk, this looks good for a PS2 game. How were those games again?

[demi]

[T-Short]

[youtube=560,345][/youtube]

lololol the horse riding segment, hahah!

horsewipeout on the speaking tribaltat magichorse

I'M DIE  

[Beezy]

If you take Castlevania pre-SoTN and made it into 3d, even if GoW/DMC never existed, it would still look pretty much like this because that's just how CV translates to 3D.  What the hell do you guys want a 3D CV to look like?  Metroid Prime? Tomb Raider?  The only really GoW clone stuff is the health fountains and arena fights.  I wouldn't call it being "cinematic" GoW inspired, since every game on earth is trying to be cinematic these days.

So this gets a pass for having shitty combat because its Castlevania?

[Bebpo]

Still looks like shit.  Real talk, what is your opinion on GoW?

It's solid beat em up adventure.  The modern mix of Final Fight/Streets of Rage and Zelda.  It's in a separate genre from technical fighters like NG/Bayo/DMC/GH that are a modern mix of Street Fighter x Zelda.

[Bebpo]

If you take Castlevania pre-SoTN and made it into 3d, even if GoW/DMC never existed, it would still look pretty much like this because that's just how CV translates to 3D.  What the hell do you guys want a 3D CV to look like?  Metroid Prime? Tomb Raider?  The only really GoW clone stuff is the health fountains and arena fights.  I wouldn't call it being "cinematic" GoW inspired, since every game on earth is trying to be cinematic these days.

So this gets a pass for having shitty combat because its Castlevania?

How is this combat any worse than Scott Pilgrim, 2d CV, Final Fight, Dororo, or any beat 'em up in the last 20 years?

You beat up stuff, you have a handful of moves.  Can get more.  You have subweapons.  You can dodge or block.  You can throw.  Enemies have patterns.  Bosses have patterns. 
Because the guy isn't dying in the tutorial level, the combat sucks?

[Bebpo]

And doesn't every 2d CV get a pass for its shitty level design because it's Castlevania?

[Howard Alan Treesong]