Random Gaming Talk Thread

[Svejk]

Meanwhile, in That other Bethesda game fka as Skyrim....



 



   That fighting.  Holy shit.

I can NOT get sucked back into the Skyrim mod scene... 

[benjipwns]

The Avengers game is leaving stores on the 30th, will remain playable and the events will cycle but can't be bought anymore, is $4 on Humble:
https://www.humblebundle.com/store/marvels-avengers-the-definitive-edition

[MMaRsu]

New Xbox leaked by the FTC..also Oblivion and Fallout remaster (why for gods sake)

[MMaRsu]

Also LMAO at gaming Twitter and probably Reddit and shit going nuts because Xbox wanted to buy Nintendo/Valve.

These are just logical business chances you have to look at, ofcourse it would a career achievement for Phil if he could get some shit like that done.

Not that it was ever going to happen, zero chances of them actually pulling something like that off.

But people going crazy about it is just distinguished mentally-challenged.

[Himu]

As someone that has an Xbox even I don't want MS to buy Nintendo or Valve, especially Nintendo.

[MMaRsu]

As someone that has an Xbox even I don't want MS to buy Nintendo or Valve, especially Nintendo.

That is never happening dude.

I'm just saying it's only logical from a business standpoint to investigate and look at acquisitions.

You don't think Sony would want to buy Nintendo or Valve?

This is just business as usual. It doesn't mean that Nintendo or Valve would ever sell.

[Bebpo]

Valve is never going to sell while Gabe's alive. They're smart and stay private for a reason.

I wouldn't even put it past Gabe to have something in his trust that whoever takes over Valve when he dies can never make it public or sell it outside of a bankruptcy.

[Svejk]

I could see valve doing some kind of partnership with MS, streaming or something, but not a full-on acquisition.

Nintendo, I would expect them to never stand down and go out like The Last Samurai, as long as they keep up with tech.  They got it figured out though.  Keep things cute and kid friendly, and the generations will follow.

[MMaRsu]

Basically

https://twitter.com/danno_omen/status/1704114891932549248

[Nintex]

I could see valve doing some kind of partnership with MS, streaming or something, but not a full-on acquisition.

Nintendo, I would expect them to never stand down and go out like The Last Samurai, as long as they keep up with tech.  They got it figured out though.  Keep things cute and kid friendly, and the generations will follow.

Spencer says the "problem" is Nintendo having big cash reserves.

Anyhow this stuff is wild. We have Spencer figuring out he has no games for 16 months after Starfield is delayed but also Spencer confident about a roadmap up to 2030.
From what I can tell they try to make it look like they're focused but Xbox is all over the place with these plans.

[MMaRsu]

I could see valve doing some kind of partnership with MS, streaming or something, but not a full-on acquisition.

Nintendo, I would expect them to never stand down and go out like The Last Samurai, as long as they keep up with tech.  They got it figured out though.  Keep things cute and kid friendly, and the generations will follow.

Spencer says the "problem" is Nintendo having big cash reserves.

Anyhow this stuff is wild. We have Spencer figuring out he has no games for 16 months after Starfield is delayed but also Spencer confident about a roadmap up to 2030.
From what I can tell they try to make it look like they're focused but Xbox is all over the place with these plans.

Most of this stuff is years old and plans change.

I liked the part where Spencer said they need to do better, and not having 1/2 games a year.

Also I don't own an Xbox but personally, Sony has been arrogant as fuck for years, and I'd love to see them taken down a notch again.

Sony at the start of the PS4 was amazing, humbled by their PS3 losses. Actually doing their best to win over customers.

It's not good for gamers if Sony keeps coming out on top.

I don't have a specific allegiance. I had a 360 most of that generation, then bought a PS3 later.

But switched to a PS4 because of the DRM bullshit MS tried to cook up.

[Raist]

It's stuff that was filed to the FTC last year, I doubt a lot of it is "years old".

Also their midgen refreshes are all digital only? Good luck with that.

[MMaRsu]

It's stuff that was filed to the FTC last year, I doubt a lot of it is "years old".

Also their midgen refreshes are all digital only? Good luck with that.

The bethesda thing is dated pre 2021.
The other Xbox stuff is a year old

Its not gonna be digital.only afaik

[Svejk]

Apparently with those leaked MS docs, their strategy was, if GP doesn't grow enough by 2027, they exiting the gaming market. GIGALOL

[Svejk]

Mech Musashi?...OK   I guess no Brave Fencer Remake yet..? 



For thos that liked the SaGa games...

[Polident Hive]

tbh it feels like it’s leaning a bit much into wackier side. Combat is slightly more involved than 7. Characters moving on their own never bothered me there.

Spikeout as one of the arcade games is awesome. If they’re emulating Model 3, they should’ve put in Scudracer, too.

[Raist]

Its not gonna be digital.only afaik

Right, it's going to be adorably digital only.

[Bebpo]

tbh it feels like it’s leaning a bit much into wackier side. Combat is slightly more involved than 7. Characters moving on their own never bothered me there.

Spikeout as one of the arcade games is awesome. If they’re emulating Model 3, they should’ve put in Scudracer, too.

I'm just glad we're getting Yakuza in America. That has the potential to be hilarious fun.

Probably going to commit blasphemy and skip Y4->Y7 and just play this one and get back to the other ones later on.

[Polident Hive]

Y7 is a soft reboot and this is a direct sequel to that. But it’s a full blown jrpg and double the length of previous games, so it is a time investment.

If there’s a third Judgment game, safe to assume it’ll take place in Hawaii. Yokohama map has already been used four times, including 8.

[Joe Molotov]

Y7 is goated

[MMaRsu]

Apparently with those leaked MS docs, their strategy was, if GP doesn't grow enough by 2027, they exiting the gaming market. GIGALOL

Thats just posturing to make sure the deal got closed, make it a bit more dramatic. I dont see them leaving the industry and I dont think they would have done it

[MMaRsu]

Its not gonna be digital.only afaik

Right, it's going to be adorably digital only.

(Image removed from quote.)

Thats one version, there already is a disc based X, and for the refresh they could just sell a external drive like Sony already does.

[Nintex]

Apparently with those leaked MS docs, their strategy was, if GP doesn't grow enough by 2027, they exiting the gaming market. GIGALOL

And they're already stagnant in 2022. 

Even when they realized they had no games when Starfield/Redfall got delayed and they went shopping there wasn't much to buy. Publishers were either unlikely to put the big titles on gamepass, unlikely to have capacity to develop a PC version or they thought it unlikely the game would be a hit (Baldurs Gate 3 lol).

I just don't see a scenario where enough big games are released every year (let alone exclusive) that ensure such growth. For that to happen they probably need to chase something like HoYoverse, not WB Games.
The original plan was probably to put Call of Duty on GamePass but with all the 'deals' they had to cut with other cloud services that becomes less and less appealing. The Series S | X split being 75/25 also isn't a good sign for where things stand.

The entire back catalogue of Activision on GP? Neat, but hardly game changing. Browser gaming or streaming through a TV or smartphone app will never be the #1 choice to play videogames either.
Handhelds from companies like ASUS will never reach the popularity of Steamdeck or the mass market distribution of Nintendo.

[Svejk]

Probably not taking in consideration of GP downloads, Starfield already dropped to #8 in the UK for sales... While Hogwarts jumped back up to #1.  Is it the coming Halloween or something? Lol

[Svejk]

[Nintex]

Probably not taking in consideration of GP downloads, Starfield already dropped to #8 in the UK for sales... While Hogwarts jumped back up to #1.  Is it the coming Halloween or something? Lol

It's usually a promotion of price cut that does that. I noticed the price dropped 33% here too.

[D3RANG3D]

[Bebpo]

Yeah, I've never stuck with a souls-like even though I've played through every Souls game and love them. The knock offs just are always missing something that makes Souls work and compelling.

Lies of P looks like the best one yet in more of a Bloodborne style. When it's cheap I'll definitely give it a shot.
Also going to keep my eye on the Lords of the Fallen remake. The first Lords of the Fallen seemed good in some Souls ways, but it was also kind of boring and I dropped it after the first area or two.

[Nintex]

In all the Xbox Studios shit show I forgot that they somehow have

MACHINE GAMES working on INDIANA JONES

RARE THE COALITION THE INITIATIVE
CRYSTAL DYNAMICS working on PERFECT DARK

And you wonder why Xbox is going absolutely nowhere.

[HardcoreRetro]

https://www.humblebundle.com/software/everything-you-need-to-know-about-godot-4-encore-software

The way the entire industry is trolling the fuck out of Unity's collapse is kind of hilarious.

I may try Godot before trying Unreal Engine since I'm mostly interested in making small 2d games.

Ended up getting this. Probably never gonna make anything, but getting even a basic understanding of how game engines work is fun.

[MMaRsu]

Yeah, I've never stuck with a souls-like even though I've played through every Souls game and love them. The knock offs just are always missing something that makes Souls work and compelling.

I think it's something called 'Soul'

 

[MMaRsu]

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new-microsoft-activision-deal-addresses-previous-cma-concerns-in-cloud-gaming

Preliminarily approval for the Xbox / Activision Blizzard deal from the CMA.

Hopefully this should all be cleared up and we get Sekiro on Gamepass

[Coax]

Lies of P looks like the best one yet in more of a Bloodborne style. When it's cheap I'll definitely give it a shot.

I've seen two Souls players, including a Sekiro speedrunner, say it's harder than Sekiro

[MMaRsu]

I mean harder in a good way or in a bad way tho?

It certainly seems to lack a bit in the weapons department. And it's more a parry style game than anything else (which is a true for Sekiro as well ofc)

[Coax]

Those I mentioned praised it highly but they were just commenting that mostly due to the tighter parry windows and beefy boss fights they consider it harder. They had no personal problems with it being that difficult though.

Strength build with throwable items seems to be what a speedrunner I've seen is going for to maximize DPS and creating opportunities to hit with tougher bosses.

[MMaRsu]

[Raist]

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new-microsoft-activision-deal-addresses-previous-cma-concerns-in-cloud-gaming

Preliminarily approval for the Xbox / Activision Blizzard deal from the CMA.

Hopefully this should all be cleared up and we get Sekiro on Gamepass

The acquisition isn't going to automatically lead to that without FromSoft's approval (and cash). Activishite only published the game outside of Japan.

[MMaRsu]

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new-microsoft-activision-deal-addresses-previous-cma-concerns-in-cloud-gaming

Preliminarily approval for the Xbox / Activision Blizzard deal from the CMA.

Hopefully this should all be cleared up and we get Sekiro on Gamepass

The acquisition isn't going to automatically lead to that without FromSoft's approval (and cash). Activishite only published the game outside of Japan.

Thats a shame

Tony Hawk 1+2 on Steam then, and possibly a Warcraft 4? MS is much more into RTS than most publishers

[Bebpo]

So Unity walked back so incredibly far they actually made Unity a better product than it currently is (getting rid of splash logo for personal, higher threshold to change from personal to business) and offered a self-reporting 2.5% cut instead of the dumb installs thing which is lower than Epic's 5% but Unity still charges a per seat cost to license. Also none of this is retroactive to released games and only for games being made on the 2024 version next year.

But they've destroyed their goodwill so hard, they're probably fucked for good.

My take is that most projects currently in dev for Unity will finish the project but anyone starting a new project will probably jump ship. I'm still going to look into starting over learning Godot or Unreal, not because I'm paranoid Unity will change the terms later and fuck me, but more that I think enough people are going to jump ship that Unity will go bankrupt and fail and don't really want to waste time learning a soon to be dead and unsupported engine.

Apparently the biggest game currently in dev on Unity is Hollow Knight Silksong.

[Nintex]

What is interesting about the new way they present Cyberpunk 2077 is that they stopped to try and make it an imperfect immersive sim where you could pick paths.
Instead they just doubled down on the action both when it comes to perks as well as the gameplay. It suits the game better and gives the player a clear focus.
You no longer have to worry if blowing shit up fits your character or path because it always does.

https://twitter.com/CyberpunkGame/status/1705522442888699966

[Nintex]

I'm looking into buying a new GPU after seeing what DLSS 3.5 can do


My RTX 2070 Super is now 4 years old and the market seems to have calmed down a bit.
From what I can tell these are the options in the 600 - 700 Euro range:

AMD
7800XT
7900XT
(or older cards)

Nvidia
4070
4060 Ti

AMD is pretty much a non-starter because they don't have all this fancy new tech and Nvidia has leapfrogged them in Ray Tracing and AI to a point that experts question if they ever will.
4060 Ti doesn't seem to have enough VRAM. The 4070 seems to be the best somewhat affordable option. Should offer twice the performance of a 2070 Super, which is a significant increase.

[MMaRsu]

I would wait for a 5070 myself, and im on a 3070

Ray reconstruction is also available for rtx 20 series cards and im hoping for improvements still that will benefit older cards as well, that space seems to be moving fast

[Coax]

Tony Hawk 1+2 on Steam then...?

What a wait...

https://twitter.com/TonyHawkTheGame/status/1706718375270138282

[Svejk]

Phil Spencer visiting Kojima Productions...

[MMaRsu]

Did he really have to take a shit? 

[MMaRsu]

Tony Hawk 1+2 on Steam then...?

What a wait...

https://twitter.com/TonyHawkTheGame/status/1706718375270138282

[Svejk]

Word on the street, Jim Ryan is stepping down.

Edit: Yup, confirmed to stepping down on March of 2024.

Don't let the door hit'cha where the Good Lord split'cha!

[Polident Hive]

Couldn’t find the original posts about smaller laptops. Could’ve been on the other bore. Reviews are coming down about the Lenovo 14 inch laptop. About on par with similar spec 16 inch models. Definitely looking like my next laptop. The state of consoles and PC gaming, a 4060 can make do.

Lenovo also gas some $4k water cooled laptop for some reason.

[bork]

Couldn’t find the original posts about smaller laptops. Could’ve been on the other bore. Reviews are coming down about the Lenovo 14 inch laptop. About on par with similar spec 16 inch models. Definitely looking like my next laptop. The state of consoles and PC gaming, a 4060 can make do.

Lenovo also gas some $4k water cooled laptop for some reason.

I think it was on the other board- hard to keep up sometimes when outside of the other forums topic it's like the same few people now posting on two forums, lol.

It looks pretty good overall- the GPU runs at 100w (they claim a little higher but this apparently not true) and it has a second SSD slot, which is so awesome for the size- no other 14" laptop has this AFAIK.  It's also supposed to run a bit hot, but welcome to 14" gaming laptops.  As long as it's better than the G14 2023 model it should be fine.  One thing to keep in mind is that the RAM is soldered on.  I would recommend going with the 32GB option to future proof it.

This appears to be a bit better than the MSI Stealth 14, and I found that to be pretty impressive for its price (and after an SSD and RAM upgrade).  You'll get great gaming performance at 1080P and with DLSS shouldn't have issues running supported games at 1440P or higher.

[Polident Hive]

I can see waiting for the intel 14th gen version. The reviews are all of Ryzen units, and I think I read before Intel chips run hotter. We’ll see. My current legion laptop from 2018 or 2019, any heating or noise issues were solved by simply raising the back off the table by an inch. I’m happy with it keeping nearly everything I like on my current laptop, but smaller. Minor things like vital ports all on the back.

[MMaRsu]

I want a Steam Deck just so I can install this on it

[bork]

I can see waiting for the intel 14th gen version. The reviews are all of Ryzen units, and I think I read before Intel chips run hotter. We’ll see. My current legion laptop from 2018 or 2019, any heating or noise issues were solved by simply raising the back off the table by an inch. I’m happy with it keeping nearly everything I like on my current laptop, but smaller. Minor things like vital ports all on the back.

I feel like using a laptop stand of some kind if pretty much a must to get the best performance- this is another reason why I liked what Asus did with the Z13, since its tablet form factor had air venting from the top, making a stand unnecessary.  I usually just use cheap portable stands for laptops that are easy to fold up and toss into a bag or the magnetic ones that just raise the back up a little bit and attach together to make a little ball that takes up no space.

The only thing I'd want to say to dissuade you from getting a 14" laptop is that you can get something with better performance if you go larger, but if that doesn't bother you, go for it.  I just got done playing Cyberpunk 2077 on my Razer Blade 14 (4070) and with DLSS (I assume it defaulted to 3.5?  Frame generation felt way better) on and nearly everything on the highest settings plus RTX on medium, I got 109-130 FPS at 1200P.  Crazy.

[Svejk]

So is Calisto Protocol worth the time?  I never played Dead Space.

[MMaRsu]

So is Calisto Protocol worth the time?  I never played Dead Space.

Id just play dead spaxe

[Polident Hive]

I can see waiting for the intel 14th gen version. The reviews are all of Ryzen units, and I think I read before Intel chips run hotter. We’ll see. My current legion laptop from 2018 or 2019, any heating or noise issues were solved by simply raising the back off the table by an inch. I’m happy with it keeping nearly everything I like on my current laptop, but smaller. Minor things like vital ports all on the back.

I feel like using a laptop stand of some kind if pretty much a must to get the best performance- this is another reason why I liked what Asus did with the Z13, since its tablet form factor had air venting from the top, making a stand unnecessary.  I usually just use cheap portable stands for laptops that are easy to fold up and toss into a bag or the magnetic ones that just raise the back up a little bit and attach together to make a little ball that takes up no space.

The only thing I'd want to say to dissuade you from getting a 14" laptop is that you can get something with better performance if you go larger, but if that doesn't bother you, go for it.  I just got done playing Cyberpunk 2077 on my Razer Blade 14 (4070) and with DLSS (I assume it defaulted to 3.5?  Frame generation felt way better) on and nearly everything on the highest settings plus RTX on medium, I got 109-130 FPS at 1200P.  Crazy.

Honesty, at the moment I’m using my 15.6” laptop as my main computer and it’s on the cusp of usable. So I’m reflecting on one two silly ideas. Either get the smaller 14” laptop and use a larger external display at home. Or get a larger 16” laptop and see if the Lenovo Go device can work for me.

Some months ago I picked up one of those portable USB C monitors. Better than expected for the $65 I paid for it. So, I’m even thinking when I travel, I’ll take that with the Lenovo Go. Treat my laptop as a portable desktop. One way or the other, somehow I decided Lenovo will get my money.

[Svejk]

So is Calisto Protocol worth the time?  I never played Dead Space.

Id just play dead spaxe

I was just curious cuz it's free on soypass atm.  I guess I shouldn't expect anything in the realm of RE4 greatness.

[Nintex]

A 77 for Mirage on Metacritic and a 84 for Forza Motorsport.

Mirage will be crushed between Cyberpunk and Spider-Man 2.

[MMaRsu]

A 77 for Mirage on Metacritic and a 84 for Forza Motorsport.

Mirage will be crushed between Cyberpunk and Spider-Man 2.

I don't understand it even getting the high scores it has. It probably doesn't deserve it as another mediocre, copy and pasted, horribly voice acted, boring side characters Ubisoft midshit. Has horrible Chromatic Abberation you can't turn off either. Not to mention two/three layers of DRM for your buying pleasure as paying customer.

Imagine giving this game higher scores than Starfield. Fucking lmao. Gaming 'Journalism' is such trash.

In other news.

https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1709654546404835771

[MMaRsu]

'immersive menu's'

[Bebpo]

I mean that's fair and he's probably biased towards GT.

But GT7 was fucking awesome and my GoTY that year, so would be pretty tough for the new Forza, which everyone seems to say is a downgrade from the previous Forza, to score better.