Random Gaming Talk Thread

[archie4208]

F2P games usually seemed designed to get the player to spend money.  I'd rather just spend the money to get PSO2 instead of a free games that has ridiculous grinding, is badly balanced, or hides items behind the paywall.  Unless it's like TF2, where it's just hats and useless trinkets, I don't know if it's positive news.

It's positive for the game as a whole because F2P means a larger player base and more potential customers.  The only ones negatively affected by this news are those who were going to spend $50-60 for it in the first place and will now potentially spend more because of the way cash shops typically operate.  (The highest paying customers spend hundreds of dollars to counterbalance the majority who spend nothing).  As long as the cash shops sell cosmetics and convenience (see League of Legends, Tribes Ascend and TF2), and stray away from outright selling power (Battlefield Heroes, dozens of Korean MMOs) then it is an overall win.

[magus]

i wanted to say something mean about ruining childhoods and such... but then i realized "ehy at least it doesn't looks like the teaser image of a gritty fps" so i guess i should be thankfull

[magus]

capcom is reaching some supervillain level of dickery,remember asura's wrath the game i ranted on so much? there is something i didn't say... the game ends in a cliffhanger

and guess what? DLC ENDING INCOMING



WHELP GUESS I'LL HAVE TO FINISH IT ON YOUTUBE,THANKS CAPCOM!

The last Spy vs Spy game that was made was bad. Doubt this'll be any different.

there was one on ps2,right?

i remember 2 for the old C64 and one for gameboy and well oscar is kinda right,but ehy! FUCKING NOSTALGIA!

[The Sceneman]

  thats some next level DLC bullshit

It has been done before though. Prince of Persia 2008 did something similar

[Joe Molotov]

The real cliffhanger is when is it going to hit $20?

[Momo]

The real cliffhanger is when is it going to hit $20?

Still not worth it

[magus]

It wasn't that big of a cliffhanger.

are you serious? it's a pretty big cliffhanger,i mean there's no story thread to close or anything but it's pretty obvious there is supposed to be a big fight at the end that there isn't... it would be like if they stopped a mario game right after mario reach bowser and then told you to buy the bowser DLC

[demi]

Vic Ireland's genius idea of kickstartering jRPGs... starts with Class of Heroes 2 (PSP)


... yea

[Trent Dole]

capcom is reaching some supervillain level of dickery,remember asura's wrath the game i ranted on so much? there is something i didn't say... the game ends in a cliffhanger
and guess what? DLC ENDING INCOMING
WHELP GUESS I'LL HAVE TO FINISH IT ON YOUTUBE,THANKS CAPCOM!

All of their dlc combined costs $15 which isnt that shitty, but having the true ending be dlc only is certainly a dick move on their end.

[Joe Molotov]

Vic Ireland's genius idea of kickstartering jRPGs... starts with Class of Heroes 2 (PSP)


... yea

I tried to help, I bought Miami Law for crissakes, but you're on your own on this one, Vic.

[magus]

Vic Ireland's genius idea of kickstartering jRPGs... starts with Class of Heroes 2 (PSP)


... yea

wow there is like a bajillion of japanese game i wanted to play and they picked the most shitty one i could think off

[Joe Molotov]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=36417000&postcount=34

If we hit $1 million, will you add Bill Clinton jokes to the script?

Nailed it.

[tiesto]

Vic Ireland's genius idea of kickstartering jRPGs... starts with Class of Heroes 2 (PSP)


... yea

 

I was seriously hoping it was Tengai Makyo: The Apocalypse IV  :'(
Game is pretty much the PERFECT game for Vic to translate.

[Great Rumbler]

Vic Ireland's genius idea of kickstartering jRPGs... starts with Class of Heroes 2 (PSP)


... yea

wow there is like a bajillion of japanese game i wanted to play and they picked the most shitty one i could think off

(Image removed from quote.)

Clash of Heroes 2 is coming out anyway. The Kickstarter is jut to get people to preorder lavish bonuses [ala the Working Designs games of old].

[chronovore]

capcom is reaching some supervillain level of dickery,remember asura's wrath the game i ranted on so much? there is something i didn't say... the game ends in a cliffhanger

and guess what? DLC ENDING INCOMING



WHELP GUESS I'LL HAVE TO FINISH IT ON YOUTUBE,THANKS CAPCOM!

The last Spy vs Spy game that was made was bad. Doubt this'll be any different.

there was one on ps2,right?

i remember 2 for the old C64 and one for gameboy and well oscar is kinda right,but ehy! FUCKING NOSTALGIA!

I'm surprised; they must have been much more optimistic in their forecasts than they had any right to be. There just aren't enough people buying DLC to make that kind of move.

[Momo]

http://browserquest.mozilla.org/

this browserquest thing is fun

[Momo]

have 17 achievements
dont have meatshield and the two hidden ones

took me like 30 mins to "complete"

[magus]

Demo 2 of bravely default:flying fairy
this one features... a town! gasp! shock and awe! maybe we'll even get a battle next month

spoiler (click to show/hide)

that was supposed to be a joke but actualy it's probably really going to be like that

[close]

there is yet another AR movie too,he should have totaly put the card on screen just to see an arm pop out of it

[archie4208]

http://soundcloud.com/yk-koca/dota-2-exploring-music

Jason Hayes

[brob]

there is exploration in dota2 or is this some fanciful, insular lingo term I am not privy to?

[archie4208]

Probably triggered by an event (that piece isn't in the main client yet).  Specific music plays when you do things like engage in a team fight or use certain items.  It's a nice touch that makes the game feel more polished.

[Trent Dole]

I'll be picking this up whenever it hits in Q2.

[magus]

they totaly botched the music... it doesn't sounds bad but it's so far removed from the original at first i didn't even realize there was a connection with this



but ultros VA is spot on

[Bebpo]

the music in the XIII-2 battle sounds like every other XIII battle theme 

There's some good music in XIII and XIII-2, but so much of it all sounds the same.  Very little range for an epic rpg scope.

[Great Rumbler]

He sounds like John DiMaggio trying to do a Joker voice.

John DiMaggio actually voiced The Joker in Batman: Under the Red Hood.

[Bebpo]

I hate the voice they picked for Ultros.  He sounds like John DiMaggio trying to do a Joker voice.

I always imagined him having a deeper voice.  Similar intonation, just... deeper.  More like Oogie Boogie from Nightmare.

I never imagined him having a deep voice, but masaya onasaka (aka, Vash the Stampede from Trigun) would definitely NOT be my choice for Ultros.  He's too goofy of a VA.

[archie4208]

Looks really fun.  Might have to trade some hats so I can play it day 1.

[Great Rumbler]

Looks like it was heavily inspired by Lands of Lore:



I'm definitely interested.

[Stoney Mason]

Two things.

First, I used a 3ds for the first time ever today. I knew I wasn't really interested in it since it was announced so I never really bothered with it. But I had to kill some time at Best Buy today so I played around with one. My impression. That thing hurts my eyes. I know there is a slider for the 3d effect but it just strikes me a bit odd that the main gimmick of it bothers me when I play it.

Also I bought one of those MLG controllers.



The gimmick here is that you can re-position and swap out the analog sticks and dpad. It's pretty good. It's too expensive but for some reason I tend to have bad luck with 360 controllers and go through a lot of them as they tend to get very loose or keep registering movement even when I let go or things of that nature. I much prefer it to the Razer Onza which I bought last year but had fundamental issues with it. I only wish it had the button types of that controller but otherwise it feels really good and solid. Some people have complained that it has a flaw where the analog sticks reach full sensitivity before you have pressed it all the way in one direction but either I don't notice it or it doesn't really bother me.

[The Sceneman]

[magus]

remember the BIG SUMMER PROJECT from square-enix i posted a few pages ago?

http://andriasang.com/con0fz/crystal_conquest/

it's a browser game

[Momo]

Doesnt sound bad actually

[Bebpo]

They're just joining the club where all the cool kids have gone this generation.  The Skid Row club.

[Momo]

What happened with SEGA?

[Momo]

Oh wow. Just saw

[etiolate]

http://browserquest.mozilla.org/

this browserquest thing is fun

I had fun with this today. Got all the achievements except the dying and resurrect one and the final mystery one. I'm curious to see if anyone picks up the code and expands on it.

[Momo]

I got 17 achievements.

None of the mystery ones, and didn't get hit for 5000 points. It really really is fun.

[Owl-faced Wizard]

Wonder what those mystery cancelled games were.  Are we really sure Bayo 2 was in development?  That always seemed unlikely to me.

[Great Rumbler]

Wonder what those mystery cancelled games were.

Shenmue 3

[Momo]

Maximum trolling would be :
Phantasy Star V
Burning Rangers II

[Owl-faced Wizard]

Burning Rangers 

[Momo]

Burning Rangers 

i believe you have just challenged me to a duel

[EmCeeGrammar]

Maybe Oscar won't be so quick to troll nintendo's financials next time around

[Momo]

The pokemon bubble will burst any day now and Nintendo will be whoring out Mario on a xbox. Matter of time.

[tiesto]

"Bangarang" + Farming Simulator game. Kinda funny video.

http://guyism.com/tech/dubstep-makes-can-do-wonders-for-a-video-game-about-farming.html

[Bebpo]

ehn, sega was rolling money very riskily on fan favourite ideas and projects, i knew it had to catch up to them sooner or later.

this is what happens when you make games the fans want instead of making shit-fucking-tastic music simulators.

Examples of non-profitable fan favorite ideas?  Because all I can think of from Sega recently is Nagoshi games, Sonic, Platinum Games, and PSO.  And none of those fit that description.

[Momo]

Virtua Tennis, Conduit, Valkyria (?), Madworld, Daytona USA (?), Resonance of Fate, Samba de Amigo(?)

[cool breeze]

I'm not clear on the Mikami situation, but he was at Platinum and made Vanquish, and now he has Tango under Bethesda.  So did that split Platinum up?

anyway, Anarchy Reigns is going to be a massive bomb.

[Beezy]

Examples of non-profitable fan favorite ideas?  Because all I can think of from Sega recently is Nagoshi games, Sonic, Platinum Games, and PSO.  And none of those fit that description.

Platinum has been a huge money sink.  They're the big culprit.  Daytona was apparently a financial bust.  Sonic Generations is the weakest-selling Sonic yet (even Black Knight sold more than 360/PS3 Generations combined).  Crush3D.  Resonance of Fate.  House of the Dead Overkill.  The English versions of the RGG games.  The big "fan-requested" XBLA games have been a wash (like Guardian Heroes).

It's time to cut Platinum loose, sadly.  I hope Konami can do for them what Capcom and SEGA could not.

They were suppose to save Japan... :'(

Sucks to hear that Sega's XBLA remakes haven't been doing well either.

[Momo]

Mikami also did Shadows with Grasshopper/EA. Guy pretty much does what he wants

[Momo]

That's a god damn shame :/

[EmCeeGrammar]

Wasn't Black Knight a catastrophic bomb?  Does this mean Colors did several factors better than Generations (although Color's quick pricedrop tells a sad story I believe)

Also, the pokemon bubble already burst a long time ago.  So when the cards, toys, tv show, and movies stopped being hugely successful all that was left was a very successful rpg franchise that ingrains itself into the new generation of 9 year olds forever and ever.

[Fifstar]

Looks really fun.  Might have to trade some hats so I can play it day 1.

Looks hot, although I don't like the semi real time combat. Too bad my computer sucks too much for a game that emulates 1992.

[Bebpo]

Examples of non-profitable fan favorite ideas?  Because all I can think of from Sega recently is Nagoshi games, Sonic, Platinum Games, and PSO.  And none of those fit that description.

Platinum has been a huge money sink.  They're the big culprit.  Daytona was apparently a financial bust.  Sonic Generations is the weakest-selling Sonic yet (even Black Knight sold more than 360/PS3 Generations combined).  Crush3D.  Resonance of Fate.  House of the Dead Overkill.  The English versions of the RGG games.  The big "fan-requested" XBLA games have been a wash (like Guardian Heroes).

It's time to cut Platinum loose, sadly.  I hope Konami can do for them what Capcom and SEGA could not.

Wait, wait, wait.

How was Daytona a bust?  How could porting that game to XBLA have cost more than a drop in the bucket for the company? 

Platinum bombas are understandable, but they weren't really "fan-favorite" designs.  They published a bunch of games from a new studio who seemed awesome in hopes they would sell.  Seems reasonable.  Just didn't pan out.

Overkill was a bomb?  I thought that did pretty well.

Resonance of Fate is one of the better selling Tri-ace games that isn't Star Ocean IP.  What could they have been expecting?

Didn't Sonic Generations sell like 1 million+??  The way they spit out these yearly Sonic games, I can't imagine they cost that much to make to need more than a million or two sales to profit.

Crush3D...well, it just came out and it's a remake of a PSP game that hardly anyone bought.  Probably a really bad decision to make.

and RGG english versions...how expensive could bringing them out be?  They're not even dubbed.  Again, would seem like a drop in the bucket financially. 

[brob]

"Bangarang" + Farming Simulator game. Kinda funny video.

http://guyism.com/tech/dubstep-makes-can-do-wonders-for-a-video-game-about-farming.html

The O.G.

[brob]

I was under the impression that konami was a bunch of asshats. if platinum's life is in their hands, isn't it p. much over all together?

[Stoney Mason]

Unfortunate for Sega as I thought their quality output had increased in recent years compared to where it use to be.

The divide between what mainstream gamers want and what Sega is delivering just seems to be very big at this stage. They are essentially a nostalgia brand either for certain specific franchises and in general as a company. Which is not a great place to be in.

I think when "normal" gamers think of Sega they think of Sonic and nothing else.

[brob]

While I haven't played many sega games of late, I got the impression that most of the titles people devoted their time slobberin over on message boards were games that don't trade on sega's awesome, old arcade history (yakuza, valkyria chronicles).

This also reminds me of when EA was doing the whole goody two-shoes, making lauded* original IPs like Mirror's Edge, which lost them buckets of money.

*again, on message boards.

[Momo]

I was under the impression that konami was a bunch of asshats. if platinum's life is in their hands, isn't it p. much over all together?

They'd just be eternally making MGS games I suspect

[cool breeze]

Crush3D...well, it just came out and it's a remake of a PSP game that hardly anyone bought.  Probably a really bad decision to make.

also Crush3D was dropped to $19 and made a Gamestop exclusive about a week before its release.  Or something like that.

This also reminds me of when EA was doing the whole goody two-shoes, making lauded* original IPs like Mirror's Edge, which lost them buckets of money.

remember when EA saved brutal legend.  good business right there.