Author Topic: Does Sean D Pittman make valid points for intelligent design? 1hr 8 mins (Read 8515 times)

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #60 on:** March 17, 2010, 07:56:56 PM »

i like to think there's a hell, and i don't even mind going there as long as i get a room with a window through which i can watch the souls of people who made my life miserable burn and writhe in agony along with me for all eternity

i think that's a pretty fair trade

heaven i don't have much of an opinion on, but my mom's had a pretty shitty life and she's a believer, so i at least hope she gets one

she can have mine, if gifting is allowed

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #61 on:** March 17, 2010, 07:59:33 PM »

I am pretty sure heaven is not like Steam, and that God is not like Gabe Newell.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #62 on:** March 17, 2010, 08:00:22 PM »

i am pretty sure it doesn't exist so it can be whatever i want it to be

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #63 on:** March 17, 2010, 08:03:10 PM »

Then why not imagine it to be like PlayStation HOME instead.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #64 on:** March 17, 2010, 08:12:39 PM »

microtransactions

steam is much better

MOM,

You've received gift copies of the games Counter-Strike and Everlasting Happiness from KEVIN

Buckle Up,

YOUR SON

Hitler Stole My Potato · « **Reply #65 on:** March 17, 2010, 08:24:24 PM »

Quote from: Mandark on March 17, 2010, 12:20:02 AM

Without clicking on the link, FUCKING NO.

A-fucking-men.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #66 on:** March 17, 2010, 09:38:12 PM »

Quote from: Eel O'Brian on March 17, 2010, 08:12:39 PM

microtransactions

steam is much better

MOM,

You've received gift copies of the games Counter-Strike and Everlasting Happiness from KEVIN

Buckle Up,

YOUR SON

alternatively

FORMER BOSS AT GAMESTOP,

You've received gift copies of the games Iron Roses and A Pitchfork Up the Poo-Haw For All Eternity from KEVIN

Game On,

KEVIN

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #67 on:** March 17, 2010, 10:27:43 PM »

so in the grand scheme of things, Wii=Xbox 360?

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #68 on:** March 17, 2010, 11:01:36 PM »

budget celestial gpu

Reb · « **Reply #69 on:** March 18, 2010, 07:47:12 AM »

Quote from: Kosma on March 17, 2010, 05:11:44 PM

God or any supranatural being is a non issue, we cant prove it one way or the other. Thats why its best ignored completely and in that aspect I think the atheist are the smartest.

Agnostics you mean, because atheists are the same as religious people but at the other end of the spectrum.

brawndolicious · « **Reply #70 on:** March 18, 2010, 08:13:57 AM »

atheists are just agnostics hedging their bets.

Ichirou · « **Reply #71 on:** March 18, 2010, 08:34:51 AM »

Quote from: am nintenho on March 18, 2010, 08:13:57 AM

atheists are just agnostics hedging their bets.

That makes absolutely no sense.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #72 on:** March 18, 2010, 08:36:50 AM »

oh ffs, if you can't handle the big words just watch this damian

[youtube=560,345]dcncPpQ8loA[/youtube]

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #73 on:** March 18, 2010, 08:38:02 AM »

Quote from: Ichirou on March 18, 2010, 08:34:51 AM

Quote from: am nintenho on March 18, 2010, 08:13:57 AM
atheists are just agnostics hedging their bets.

That makes absolutely no sense.

Heaven is still open to us

Oh wait

brawndolicious · « **Reply #74 on:** March 18, 2010, 08:52:03 AM »

Quote from: Ichirou on March 18, 2010, 08:34:51 AM

Quote from: am nintenho on March 18, 2010, 08:13:57 AM
atheists are just agnostics hedging their bets.

That makes absolutely no sense.

as in they're trying to make a commitment to a particular "side" so as to show their confidence in their superior logic.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #75 on:** March 18, 2010, 08:59:05 AM »

Quote from: am nintenho on March 18, 2010, 08:52:03 AM

Quote from: Ichirou on March 18, 2010, 08:34:51 AM
Quote from: am nintenho on March 18, 2010, 08:13:57 AM
atheists are just agnostics hedging their bets.

That makes absolutely no sense.
as in they're trying to make a commitment to a particular "side" so as to show their confidence in their superior logic.

That's the exact opposite of "hedging their bets".

Reb · « **Reply #76 on:** March 18, 2010, 09:00:31 AM »

I could imagine somebody calling agnostics atheists hedging their bets.

brawndolicious · « **Reply #77 on:** March 18, 2010, 09:06:26 AM »

Quote from: Cormacaroni on March 18, 2010, 08:59:05 AM

Quote from: am nintenho on March 18, 2010, 08:52:03 AM
Quote from: Ichirou on March 18, 2010, 08:34:51 AM
Quote from: am nintenho on March 18, 2010, 08:13:57 AM
atheists are just agnostics hedging their bets.
That makes absolutely no sense.
as in they're trying to make a commitment to a particular "side" so as to show their confidence in their superior logic.
That's the exact opposite of "hedging their bets".

It actually has nothing to do with logic. An agnostic position would make the most sense as their is no evidence for or against supernatural beings (because all evidence is obviously bound by physical laws) but the problem is that a neutral agnostic would gain no support or respect from anyone in a philosophical argument. It's as deep as looking at the mid-east conflict and saying "I'm gonna support the ones who throw rocks but don't shoot bullets because I hate war".

you follow?

tiesto · « **Reply #78 on:** March 18, 2010, 10:26:41 AM »

Quote from: Вiff Кoммiёslaуer on March 17, 2010, 01:32:28 AM

Mandark, regardless of his age you'd be wasting your time on Damian. He's "proud" of being a weeabootastic japafag.

Being weeabootastic and believing in evolution aren't mutually exclusive tho

Barry Egan · « **Reply #79 on:** March 18, 2010, 10:30:08 AM »

neutral agnostics not involving themselves in polarized debate isn't tantamount to that position "not gaining support or respect from anyone". Basically what you're describing is someone choosing to pick up an AK-47 when they have the option of not getting involved in the conflict at all. Wouldn't not getting involved be a much more sensible way of "hedging your bets?"

How can someone who has put all his money on one horse be described as "hedging his bets?"

Am Nintenho posts!!!

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #80 on:** March 18, 2010, 11:33:28 AM »

Quote from: am nintenho on March 18, 2010, 09:06:26 AM

Quote from: Cormacaroni on March 18, 2010, 08:59:05 AM
Quote from: am nintenho on March 18, 2010, 08:52:03 AM
Quote from: Ichirou on March 18, 2010, 08:34:51 AM
Quote from: am nintenho on March 18, 2010, 08:13:57 AM
atheists are just agnostics hedging their bets.
That makes absolutely no sense.
as in they're trying to make a commitment to a particular "side" so as to show their confidence in their superior logic.
That's the exact opposite of "hedging their bets".
It actually has nothing to do with logic. An agnostic position would make the most sense as their is no evidence for or against supernatural beings (because all evidence is obviously bound by physical laws) but the problem is that a neutral agnostic would gain no support or respect from anyone in a philosophical argument. It's as deep as looking at the mid-east conflict and saying "I'm gonna support the ones who throw rocks but don't shoot bullets because I hate war".

you follow?

Yes, I do. So I'm going to "hedge my bets" and agree with you 100%.

Himu · « **Reply #81 on:** March 18, 2010, 11:42:33 AM »

Quote from: Eric P on March 17, 2010, 06:18:44 PM

you don't know my family

put me down for "maggots" plz

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/717604

Himu · « **Reply #82 on:** March 18, 2010, 11:43:43 AM »

Quote from: etiolate on March 17, 2010, 06:20:33 PM

I always saw no afterlife and no judgement as far more relieving than a merit based afterlife.

Fuck it. This life already feels like an eternity.

Why would anyone want to live forever?

brawndolicious · « **Reply #83 on:** March 18, 2010, 05:06:12 PM »

Quote from: My F*cking Grandpa on March 18, 2010, 10:30:08 AM

neutral agnostics not involving themselves in polarized debate isn't tantamount to that position "not gaining support or respect from anyone". Basically what you're describing is someone choosing to pick up an AK-47 when they have the option of not getting involved in the conflict at all. Wouldn't not getting involved be a much more sensible way of "hedging your bets?"
How can someone who has put all his money on one horse be described as "hedging his bets?"
Am Nintenho posts!!!

The thing is I'm convinced that they just want to have a debate that they "win", not necessarily a constructive debate.

Barry Egan · « **Reply #84 on:** March 18, 2010, 06:01:26 PM »

who does?

Powerslave · « **Reply #85 on:** March 18, 2010, 07:43:42 PM »

Barry Egan · « **Reply #86 on:** March 18, 2010, 07:45:29 PM »

duuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrpppppppppp

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #87 on:** March 18, 2010, 08:02:29 PM »

Quote from: Powerslave on March 18, 2010, 07:43:42 PM

(Image removed from quote.)

pull the word "magically" from there, and that's pretty much right. magic definitely doesn't make any sense, despite what christians tell us

Barry Egan · « **Reply #88 on:** March 18, 2010, 08:11:04 PM »

Quote from: Kosma on March 18, 2010, 08:08:08 PM

Quote from: Rebiak on March 18, 2010, 09:00:31 AM
I could imagine somebody calling agnostics atheists hedging their bets.

yeah

exactly. At least that makes some sense.

Powerslave · « **Reply #89 on:** March 18, 2010, 08:11:33 PM »

Barry Egan · « **Reply #90 on:** March 18, 2010, 08:16:40 PM »

I'm pretty sure atheists believe in radiowaves and all that other shit crossed out there on the bottom.

Not expecting you to actually think through what you're posting beforehand tho.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #91 on:** March 18, 2010, 08:17:27 PM »

powerslave is like his own trig palin: he trots himself out on stage, looking for pathos

Powerslave · « **Reply #92 on:** March 18, 2010, 08:19:43 PM »

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #93 on:** March 18, 2010, 08:23:05 PM »

well, we do have an empathic function (present to varying degrees in various individuals) which allows us to operate as social animals. when coupled with a culture and the attendant set of social contracts, it's SORT of a moral code. i mean, there *is* a reason we haven't created a eugenics program to sexually sterilize powerslave yet. or perhaps that's because it isn't necessary, since genetics already took care of that potential situation for us.

Powerslave · « **Reply #94 on:** March 18, 2010, 08:26:29 PM »

hey prole

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #95 on:** March 18, 2010, 08:36:17 PM »

powerslave, no dispute from me there!

Barry Egan · « **Reply #96 on:** March 18, 2010, 08:39:49 PM »

is God the flying translucent jellyfish or that silhouette of a sea lion in the background?

You're right man this shit is tough.

Powerslave · « **Reply #97 on:** March 18, 2010, 08:45:27 PM »

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #98 on:** March 18, 2010, 08:46:35 PM »

clearly heaven is heavy into airbrush work, although i woulda been happier if it looked more like a roger dean landscape

Barry Egan · « **Reply #99 on:** March 18, 2010, 08:46:56 PM »

that one was funny at least.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #100 on:** March 18, 2010, 08:47:40 PM »

only the athiest of all athing atheists can grok it

Fresh Prince · « **Reply #101 on:** March 18, 2010, 08:48:43 PM »

Which is the one whether you don't care if there is a god or not?

Powerslave · « **Reply #102 on:** March 18, 2010, 08:49:06 PM »

Quote from: My F*cking Grandpa on March 18, 2010, 08:46:56 PM

that one was funny at least.

no one cares what you think about it

Ichirou · « **Reply #103 on:** March 18, 2010, 08:50:16 PM »

I don't know whether I believe in God or not.

Barry Egan · « **Reply #104 on:** March 18, 2010, 08:55:45 PM »

Quote from: Powerslave on March 18, 2010, 08:49:06 PM

Quote from: My F*cking Grandpa on March 18, 2010, 08:46:56 PM

that one was funny at least.

no one cares what you think about it

Uhh. God cares for all his children

Fresh Prince · « **Reply #105 on:** March 18, 2010, 09:01:16 PM »

You're hell spawn.

Powerslave · « **Reply #106 on:** March 18, 2010, 09:01:57 PM »

that may be true but he sure as hell isnt gonna care about what some goofball thinks about a picture on the internet. Atheists are indeed stupid.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #107 on:** March 18, 2010, 09:03:28 PM »

actually he DOES care. perhaps you might have read a little book he wrote called i dunno THE BIBLE where he has some very butthurt reactions to blasphemy

Ichirou · « **Reply #108 on:** March 18, 2010, 09:04:12 PM »

Quote from: Professor Prole on March 18, 2010, 09:03:28 PM

actually he DOES care. perhaps you might have read a little book he wrote called i dunno THE BIBLE where he has some very butthurt reactions to blasphemy

What's worse, blasphemy or priests diddling little kids?

Powerslave · « **Reply #109 on:** March 18, 2010, 09:05:08 PM »

chipopo laughed at the last panel at how the atheist went on a rant spree. Nothing to do with blasphemy you moran

Fresh Prince · « **Reply #110 on:** March 18, 2010, 09:05:13 PM »

If you ask forgiveness they are the same thing

Barry Egan · « **Reply #111 on:** March 18, 2010, 09:06:39 PM »

Quote

You're hell spawn.

God loves even his hell spawn. I'm only hell spawn insofar as I refuse his love.

Quote

that may be true but he sure as hell isnt gonna care about what some goofball thinks about a picture on the internet. Atheist are indeed stupid.

There is no place on earth outside Gods love. Not even the internet.

What kind of bullshit is this that I know my Christian theology better than you?

Powerslave · « **Reply #112 on:** March 18, 2010, 09:10:38 PM »

lol ur dumb

Ichirou · « **Reply #113 on:** March 18, 2010, 09:12:37 PM »

Quote from: Fresh Prince on March 18, 2010, 09:05:13 PM

If you ask forgiveness they are the same thing

Only if you're a Protestant!

Fresh Prince · « **Reply #114 on:** March 18, 2010, 09:14:14 PM »

Nah man, Catholics get the same deal. Except when we ask forgiveness the penance from the priest may be different.

Ichirou · « **Reply #115 on:** March 18, 2010, 09:17:04 PM »

Quote from: Fresh Prince on March 18, 2010, 09:14:14 PM

Nah man, Catholics get the same deal. Except when we ask forgiveness the penance from the priest may be different.

But Catholics believe it has to be faith and good works. So you can't just ask forgiveness and expect to be saved. I took ethics classes in Catholic school and they spend like a month talking about the difference between Catholic and other christian faiths.

Fresh Prince · « **Reply #116 on:** March 18, 2010, 09:19:43 PM »

Penance is good works, isn't it? And that's up to the priest who acts on 'behalf' of God.

Ichirou · « **Reply #117 on:** March 18, 2010, 09:23:07 PM »

Penance can just be using a rosary to say the Lord's Prayer and Hail Marys. You're supposed to do good works on your own initiative.

As I understand it from ethics classes (15 years ago, and I've never been a particularly devout Catholic), one of the big differences between Catholicism and Protestantism is that Catholics believe that you need faith AND good works if you want to achieve salvation, whereas Protestantism teaches that faith alone is sufficient.

Fresh Prince · « **Reply #118 on:** March 18, 2010, 09:26:21 PM »

From memory penance can be a priest telling you to do charity work etc so good acts as well.

Ichirou · « **Reply #119 on:** March 18, 2010, 09:42:31 PM »

Whenever I went to confession they just made me say prayers, they never asked me to do any good acts in specific. But I dunno...I'm a pretty bad Catholic.

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