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Re: New Random Talk Thread: Let the Bottom-Feeding Commence!
« Reply #25320 on: September 04, 2014, 12:07:01 PM »
Don't know about a job.  It just feel like she is intruding on my space because she is her all the time, and then when my roomate isn't here its like I have a second roomate. 

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« Reply #25321 on: September 04, 2014, 12:14:49 PM »
You put the L in Laos.


No I don't talk to her.  Can't even remember her name.  Starts with a k.

Your mom's name is Kathy. Tell her I said hi

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« Reply #25322 on: September 04, 2014, 12:21:10 PM »
I definitely get the feeling, Arvie. You wind up thinking about stuff you usually do naturally. If you're taking a dumb you're trying not to be too loud. I have some beat up Shaq sweat shorts I wear around the house and while working out, but I didn't wear them when she was around.

And I HATED having to deal with her being there around 1AM watching Netflix, laughing loudly. It's like jeez, don't you have a fucking job? Well I do so shut the fuck up after midnight.
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« Reply #25323 on: September 04, 2014, 12:40:34 PM »
My cousin's hamster once escaped and my aunt said she could hear it tipper tapper on a shoebox in the middle of the night. :uguu

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« Reply #25324 on: September 04, 2014, 12:41:15 PM »
Studies are kicking my ass, as soon as I think I know my shit a random thing comes up that I dont know and it sends me into an OCD spiral of reading docs for hours :/

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« Reply #25325 on: September 04, 2014, 01:24:15 PM »
1. The city and DOT are doing a huge project across from house . On month three now. Street is all tore up, drain covers blocked.
2. We got half an inch of rain like 20 minutes last night.
3. The streets were a river. My basement had 1-2 inches of water in it.

Moved everything out, managed to save the furniture and electronics. Carpet is toast. Baseboards too. Not sure about the walls. The water drained fast since our drain lines never backed up.

Time to fight city hall. This sucks.
If you come to our meetup in Seattle you can ask my wife about this.
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« Reply #25326 on: September 04, 2014, 01:37:19 PM »
Her name is Katlynn.  I read it on her waterbottle sized jug of some kind of oral med prescription that is on my side of the bathroom sink while taking a shit.  Batman level detective work.     

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« Reply #25327 on: September 04, 2014, 01:54:50 PM »
1. The city and DOT are doing a huge project across from house . On month three now. Street is all tore up, drain covers blocked.
2. We got half an inch of rain like 20 minutes last night.
3. The streets were a river. My basement had 1-2 inches of water in it.

Moved everything out, managed to save the furniture and electronics. Carpet is toast. Baseboards too. Not sure about the walls. The water drained fast since our drain lines never backed up.

Time to fight city hall. This sucks.
If you come to our meetup in Seattle you can ask my wife about this.

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« Reply #25328 on: September 04, 2014, 02:05:16 PM »
Shit I live in the Ghetto now  :gun
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« Reply #25329 on: September 04, 2014, 02:12:59 PM »
I can literally see a crack house from my porch :obama
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« Reply #25330 on: September 04, 2014, 02:15:17 PM »
I can literally see a crack house from my porch :obama

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« Reply #25331 on: September 04, 2014, 02:18:48 PM »
My rep is Filipino you racist  :maf
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« Reply #25332 on: September 04, 2014, 02:19:48 PM »
I've seen people mugged outside and there are drug deals on a regular basis. City lvin', yo.

1. The city and DOT are doing a huge project across from house . On month three now. Street is all tore up, drain covers blocked.
2. We got half an inch of rain like 20 minutes last night.
3. The streets were a river. My basement had 1-2 inches of water in it.

Moved everything out, managed to save the furniture and electronics. Carpet is toast. Baseboards too. Not sure about the walls. The water drained fast since our drain lines never backed up.

Time to fight city hall. This sucks.
If you come to our meetup in Seattle you can ask my wife about this.

Send me the deets.

So my wife called public utilities last night to ask about our claim. Their response? "Oh, there was too much rain for the system to handle." "You should be thankful no one died." Yeah, we are thankful, but you just ruined the basement level of my house. The basement I built out with my dad four years ago.

Too much rain? In Seattle? It was 4/10 of an inch. IN SEATTLE. You're a massive metropolitan city and you can't handle rain?!?

They've also sent trucks out after sundown the last two nights. First night they checked manhole covers at 1am and then last night around 10:30pm they pumped water out of them. Never talked to anyone either time, but we took video. Double teaming with our neighbors who also got screwed.

They also told us to just save all the receipts and submit it for payment when we're  done. But no guarantee that they'll admit fault or pay for anything. Everything is in boxes on our main floor, our house is bordering on hoarder condition right now. And their lack of concern makes us afraid that it's going to flood again before the project is done sometime in the next 1-2 months. Do we redo the drywall and put in carpet right away or wait? ARGH.

My daughter doesn't understand what's going on. She's been with my parents for the last two days and I'm taking her home tonight. She just wants to play in the basement, now all the toys that we didn't throw away are up in her room.

So angry. So very angry and feeling totally helpless.
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« Reply #25333 on: September 04, 2014, 02:27:06 PM »
You very well might be fucked but there's certainly things you can do to prove negligence (if they weren't following design instructions properly).  The problem is the city or county will most likely stonewall and throw their lawyers at it because they really don't want to start paying homeowners for shit.  I think MAF invited you to our meetup on Facebook.
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« Reply #25334 on: September 04, 2014, 02:27:46 PM »
I remember you posted pics of the basement as you were building it, it looked really nice; reminded me of when I was a kid and we helped my dad finish our basement.

Don't let them run out the clock on you. Dunno about Washington but in Michigan the state and insurance companies can legally refuse to pay claims if a year passes before they receive specific paperwork from the claimant. And even if you send the paperwork they can still fuck you over if you don't pester them.

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« Reply #25335 on: September 04, 2014, 02:32:59 PM »
Grab one of the local news crews.  Call them or write them an email.  That's the only way our city fesses up to shit like that is when they're called out on the news.  And since it sounds like it's not just you the story is even bigger.

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« Reply #25336 on: September 04, 2014, 02:35:04 PM »
My wife is very good at pestering people when needed.

Grab one of the local news crews.  Call them or write them an email.  That's the only way our city fesses up to shit like that is when they're called out on the news.  And since it sounds like it's not just you the story is even bigger.

My father in law used to work for a news station in Omaha and has done PR ever since. That was his suggestion as well. It basically impacted everyone with a driveway.
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« Reply #25337 on: September 04, 2014, 03:03:46 PM »
I hate Juicy so much

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« Reply #25338 on: September 04, 2014, 03:05:36 PM »
Harlan Estate and Screaming Eagle :holeup
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« Reply #25339 on: September 04, 2014, 03:08:01 PM »
Juicy is so good :noah
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« Reply #25340 on: September 04, 2014, 03:09:10 PM »
Juicy Fruit by Mtume is better.

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« Reply #25341 on: September 04, 2014, 03:10:54 PM »
I don't like Juicy's chorus. fuckin rap n bullshit

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« Reply #25342 on: September 04, 2014, 03:11:30 PM »
Its so overplayed breh. I wont deny that its super quotable and a genre touchstone, but its like the Raining Blood of rap

I.e. good, but completely overshadowed by the actual S-tier tracks on the same album

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« Reply #25343 on: September 04, 2014, 03:14:01 PM »
Its so overplayed breh. I wont deny that its super quotable and a genre touchstone, but its like the Raining Blood of rap

I.e. good, but completely overshadowed by the actual S-tier tracks on the same album

Don't you mean it's the Enter Sandman of rap.

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« Reply #25344 on: September 04, 2014, 03:15:11 PM »
Metallica isn't universally loved though, unless I'm crazy there

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« Reply #25345 on: September 04, 2014, 03:20:40 PM »
Honestly, I don't think the genre is good for a comparison. That kind of rock sucks. Y'all just metal nerds on this board.

All three rock songs suggested would have the station/record changed at a party. Juicy comes on and you got yourself a sing a long (as long as you brought the weed along)
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« Reply #25346 on: September 04, 2014, 03:29:00 PM »
That kind of rock sucks. Y'all just metal nerds on this board.

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« Reply #25347 on: September 04, 2014, 03:31:05 PM »
nah a better Iron Man comparison would be an older song like Rappers Delight imo.

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« Reply #25348 on: September 04, 2014, 03:31:19 PM »
You takin the L train if your argument attempts to say that kind of music has the broad appeal of Juicy.

Some people really like that kind of rock, they're old or nerds. That's okay. Nerds and old people are valid.

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« Reply #25349 on: September 04, 2014, 03:37:38 PM »
guess I'm a nerd because I got legit rustled when I was at a red light next to a car blasting No Flex Zone. I was listening to NPR at the time.
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« Reply #25350 on: September 04, 2014, 03:39:23 PM »
I'm not mad, sweets. Nothing wrong with being a nerd or old. Most of us will be both at some point in our lives  :heh

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« Reply #25351 on: September 04, 2014, 03:42:39 PM »
Clearly I'm not the mad one here  :badass

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« Reply #25352 on: September 04, 2014, 03:48:47 PM »
You gonna convince me you're not a nerd next, Mr. Shinobi :smug

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« Reply #25353 on: September 04, 2014, 03:56:29 PM »
Lyrics are what holds all of metal back. You have to be able to laugh about that stuff or you can't enjoy it.

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« Reply #25354 on: September 04, 2014, 04:01:19 PM »
I haven't listened to TBA in years but Holier Than Thou might be my most played track on it. That or Of Wolf and Man.

Man, I haven't really listened to new rock in ages outside of Uncle Acid (shout outs to Wrath for putting me on them). Before them I probably didn't listen to much new shit outside of Them Crooked Vultures when it came out (I really like that album). I'm stuck in the past (surprise) - still listening to Zeppelin, Hendrix, Metallica, Anthrax, Maiden, Soundgarden, etc. I can't fux with rock without a decent singer though, which is why that cookie monster metal shit gets throw in the bushes.

I'm too  :flabbypd for my own good
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« Reply #25355 on: September 04, 2014, 04:07:48 PM »
lyrics are like the least / last important thing in music to me

Instrumentals >>>
song concept >>>
production and mixing >>>
aesthetic >>>
Yeah, pretty much. I can thankfully block out English lyrics pretty well, possibly due to being a 2nd language speaker, but holy shit is it hard sometimes.

I checked out what Godsmack were up to in recent years because Spotify's related artists section reminded me of their existence. Current top played song on there (1000hp) is about their band history in fairly matter of fact tones and its unbearable, even by Godsmack standards.

One more reason I love Clutch.

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« Reply #25356 on: September 04, 2014, 04:15:16 PM »
Will do. I used to explore on my own, and now when it's never been easier I don't. :shaq2 Gotta get back on that.

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« Reply #25357 on: September 04, 2014, 04:26:12 PM »
Never was a Godsmack fan although their first album wasn't bad. They were always too much of a AiC rip off for me, down to their very band name. Every now and then I tune into my favorite rock station, which I listened to a lot as a kid. They played the new Godsmack song last week and wow it was terrible.
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« Reply #25358 on: September 04, 2014, 04:34:27 PM »
Bought? Nawwwww

C'mon, Wrath, you know metal is nerdy. That troll wasn't meant for you.

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« Reply #25359 on: September 04, 2014, 04:35:50 PM »
some metal is definitely lol worthy. but hey, the same could be said of some of the rap I listen to.

some metal is way to masturabatory for me
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« Reply #25360 on: September 04, 2014, 04:37:24 PM »
Clearly I only listen to top 40, because obviously the only way to judge musical merit is by the number of listeners :trollbron

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« Reply #25361 on: September 04, 2014, 04:48:21 PM »
I definitely get the feeling, Arvie. You wind up thinking about stuff you usually do naturally. If you're taking a dumb you're trying not to be too loud. I have some beat up Shaq sweat shorts I wear around the house and while working out, but I didn't wear them when she was around.

And I HATED having to deal with her being there around 1AM watching Netflix, laughing loudly. It's like jeez, don't you have a fucking job? Well I do so shut the fuck up after midnight.

Given how ridiculous I am about outside the house social interactions, I find it amusing that I #dgaf about the people I live with (or who they bring home) while y'all #struggle with shit like this. :lol

The only concession I've made to the anarcho-commune is leaving my bedroom door open while I read after coming home from work because generally everyone leaves their doors open to keep the house cooler while I don't. Reading about #solidarity in Dachau while living #solidarity irl brehs. :lawd I even threw one of my oscillating fans in the door last night like everyone else does. :lawd

Other than that? D G A F

For example, Monday night I realized I needed to do laundry but it was late at night. I could have asked if it was OK and gotten a thumbs down since the laundry room is next to a bedroom, but instead I just did my laundry. Plausible deniability, it's so angelic friends. :rejoice

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« Reply #25362 on: September 04, 2014, 04:53:04 PM »
Speaking of my new place, I thought living walking distance from a Taco Bell would be the best thing, but the actual best thing is living walking distance from a "everything is actually a dollar" dollar store.

I swear the first time I was in there was what Israel must be like for that awkward Jewish person you knew in college who went to there for the summer and came home a Super Jew. I'm buying shit I didn't even know I needed for ONE WHOLE DOLLAR. The discounts. The savings. :lawd

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« Reply #25363 on: September 04, 2014, 04:54:01 PM »
Bought? Nawwwww

C'mon, Wrath, you know metal is nerdy. That troll wasn't meant for you.

EVERY genre is nerdy when you're looking for the good in it. There's non nerdy metal like crap that is Five Finger Death Punch, there's non nerdy  music in every genre, most of it is the big hit mainstream variety. Of course there's mainstream music that's good on all platforms, but for you to say that people who love a genre and know a lot about it are nerds? Well then, the fuck did you expect? Of course they are. Wether it's rap, metal or even dubstep.

Funnily enough is that you chose Metallica and Slayer to call nerdy  :lol Two of the biggest bands out there who are instantly recognizable, Sure, I guess you can say Slayer is nerdy. But Metallica? A band who everyone and their mother listen to? Who sell out concerts everywhere? Where you can find someone wearing their t-shirt anywhere?  :lol

The band is the most mainstream thing out there, any white girl with an acoustic guitar plays Nothing Else Matters. And most of the hate they get is from metalheads, the nerds themselves.

Trollateral damage  :snoop

Wait, people listen to Metallica still?

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« Reply #25364 on: September 04, 2014, 04:54:10 PM »
lyrics are like the least / last important thing in music to me

Instrumentals >>>
song concept >>>
production and mixing >>>
aesthetic >>>
I can dap this.  I don't really give a fuck about lyrics anymore.  If the whole package of sound comes together, including the voice I don't care what they're saying.  This has allowed me to listen to foreign music too.  Putting lyrics as the highest requirement makes you miss out on lots of music IMO.

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« Reply #25365 on: September 04, 2014, 05:02:24 PM »
Speaking of my new place, I thought living walking distance from a Taco Bell would be the best thing, but the actual best thing is living walking distance from a "everything is actually a dollar" dollar store.

I swear the first time I was in there was what Israel must be like for that awkward Jewish person you knew in college who went to there for the summer and came home a Super Jew. I'm buying shit I didn't even know I needed for ONE WHOLE DOLLAR. The discounts. The savings. :lawd

Don't forget the malnutrition and diabetes.
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« Reply #25366 on: September 04, 2014, 05:03:24 PM »
Speaking of my new place, I thought living walking distance from a Taco Bell would be the best thing, but the actual best thing is living walking distance from a "everything is actually a dollar" dollar store.

I swear the first time I was in there was what Israel must be like for that awkward Jewish person you knew in college who went to there for the summer and came home a Super Jew. I'm buying shit I didn't even know I needed for ONE WHOLE DOLLAR. The discounts. The savings. :lawd

Don't forget the malnutrition and diabetes.

For a dollar? I'll take it.
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« Reply #25367 on: September 04, 2014, 05:05:52 PM »
and when that dollar store shit breaks in a week you'll go back and spend another dollar!  I lived that life for a while.  For most of that stuff it ends up costing less to buy a slightly more expensive version of the same item. 

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« Reply #25368 on: September 04, 2014, 05:06:49 PM »
Why would you buy food at the everything is actually a dollar dollar store?

I'm not going to bank on edema or diabetes to check out on things, long-term life plans blow up in my face.

e: Oh no, broken sundries? Whatever shall I do? Wish I'd listened to Grandpa Mupepe and not my inner Shylock.
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« Reply #25369 on: September 04, 2014, 05:17:23 PM »
But you're going to save money...... right?  Broken shit that ends up being a waste of money.... ah fuck it.  :lol

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« Reply #25370 on: September 04, 2014, 05:19:11 PM »
Paper towels don't break

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« Reply #25371 on: September 04, 2014, 05:19:24 PM »
I buy gift bags and wrapping paper at the dollar store. That's about it.

And they do sell food. Even frozen meals. Kinda scary to think about.
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« Reply #25372 on: September 04, 2014, 05:37:01 PM »
Oh I know they sell food, I walked by it while exploring and went :holeup.

I didn't know you could sprinkle pepper on baloney and legally sell it as salami.

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« Reply #25373 on: September 04, 2014, 05:52:25 PM »
Dollar General is the only place to find Dunkaroos around here. Ran out of candy one Halloween at the end of the night, and passed out Dunkaroos to the last few kids. They were fucking appalled.  "Um what is this? Thanks I guess."

Fucking brats these days. I felt like how my grandma felt handing out those orange wrapper candies. "Try them! You'll love it!"
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« Reply #25374 on: September 04, 2014, 05:56:56 PM »
the #dualities of turning our noses up at cheap food but eating off the taco bell dollar menu

Look yourself in the mirror the next time you Olive Garden shame me, sir.
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« Reply #25375 on: September 04, 2014, 06:01:15 PM »
Over flowing? As in unlimited pasta bowls? Endless soup, salad and breadsticks?

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« Reply #25376 on: September 04, 2014, 06:02:36 PM »
Look yourself in the mirror the next time you Olive Garden shame me, sir.
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Has nothing to do with price :ufup

has everything to do with olive garden being shit and living in a city overflowing with italian food :ufup

Also one order of Olive Garden is enough to eat for a week at Taco Bell. :ufup
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« Reply #25377 on: September 04, 2014, 06:03:41 PM »
But it's unlimited. You're supposed to eat enough for the week.

Kara

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Re: New Random Talk Thread: Let the Bottom-Feeding Commence!
« Reply #25378 on: September 04, 2014, 06:05:07 PM »
the #dualities of turning our noses up at cheap food but eating off the taco bell dollar menu

Taco Bell's CEO assured me in a written notice that the company's food contained actual meat. I have no such assurances with peppered baloney salami.

:ufup When fronting becomes betrayal (of the Bell).

Phoenix Dark

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Re: New Random Talk Thread: Let the Bottom-Feeding Commence!
« Reply #25379 on: September 04, 2014, 06:06:45 PM »
Look yourself in the mirror the next time you Olive Garden shame me, sir.
 :ufup

Has nothing to do with price :ufup

has everything to do with olive garden being shit and living in a city overflowing with italian food :ufup

It's Italian food! My grandma went to Italy and said they don't use red tomato sauce for many dishes - the sauce is white. And guess who uses white sauce? Olive Garden.


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