Random talk thread: It just keeps happening

[Bebpo]

I don't even want to get into the details, but I'd file a lawsuit if I thought I could collect. Even if end up breaking even (which is very questionable, I still may end up losing $100k+), I'm losing the next 2-3 months of my life because I got scammed by the seller.

Isn't there deed insurance and inspection insurance and stuff if you discover things that weren't said to you?

It's an underlying condition of the property thing so title insurance doesn't fit in. I could sue the inspector, but the real person who fucked up was an inspector I didn't have a contract with. The inspector was like "eh, this is worth looking into, but probably ok" and so I did get an expert company to rush over and investigate and give a proposal estimate for repairs and they were like "eh, no big deal, don't worry about it".

Well turns out it's going to be a few hundred thousand dollars and I won't be able to live in the place for months. So it puts me underwater on the property. Best to make it pretty, let the next buyer know it's a thing if they want to deal with and get the fuck out with as little of loss as I can. But it's a gamble and will take months to get it nice and pretty and next buyer will still probably want like 20% price reduction.

But if I just turned around and sold it now as is, it would be a distress sale and wouldn't get any decent prices anywhere near what I got it for.

I've been really depressed, more so than in my entire life, can barely function and been thing of checking myself into the psych ward at the hospital because I've started minor cutting myself in anger and suicide has been appealing as a way out. I mostly hate myself for missing this and getting rushed through this sale process and fucking myself into this corner. I noticed there were some weird issues that I thought COULD BE POTENTIAL BIG EXPENSIVE DEALS in the inspection but everyone (inspector, specialist repair company, family and friends, agent) basically told me "you're overreacting and getting anxious and cold feet and even if it's a problem it'll be cheap to fix"

So I caught the fucking thing before I was locked in and I could've and should've bailed. But because I'd bailed during the contingency period on the last house I was going to buy mostly just because of anxiety and cold feet, I told myself I'm not going to do that again and next time I get into a house unless something major comes up I'm going to sign the papers and go through with the sale. The risk of that was that the next time I got a bad gut feeling and nervous it would actually be on the mark and I'd ignore it....and whoops that is exactly how it turned out.

So I caught the thing, I could've and should've backed out and not lost any money, but I didn't and now I'm losing 2-3 months trying to fix this mess and could end up making $5, or $0 or lose even $200k. Which means I'm eventually back to where I was looking for a house but now with less money so it's even harder in this market to find something. If I lost $200k five years from now of retirement savings, I could live with that because it doesn't really affect anything. But losing that kind of money now when I will need to try to find a house again is going to be really hard. Hopefully it'll be closer to $15k lost and several hundred hours or something when all is said and done but it's just a ?? until the day it's sold what it'll sell for and that's huge anxiety.

I just hate myself and want to die 

[Bebpo]

If I ignore all the emotional aspect of this and can just robot it out instead of replaying all my fuck ups for the last three months over and over in my head, then it's basically simple of

1. Don't stress
2. Fix AC/mold issue at current condo so can stay here
3. Fix and sell house and maybe eat $200k loss max
4. If still want to buy a house just to have a house, even though my condo will be fine to live in if I can do #2, then just get a larger mortgage to make up for the $200k down in finances and live with an extra $1-1.5k/month mortgage payment to get the house in the range I want.

Or the smarter logical option is just live in my condo a few more years until the market gets a bit better, save up some more to make up for the money lost in this situation and when the market is better buy a house.

It's just hard to reconcile the logical approach with the emotional aspect of having spent hundreds and hundreds of hours and stress for like 3 months straight in house searching, determined to get my first single family house, and to just have to give up on that and all that time and energy and having no life for those months (+ the next few months doing repairs), and it was all for nothing. The crushing depression of that is just hard for me to accept.

It's also not a 100% thing the AC/mold issue can actually be fixed at my condo. I'll be working on that this week as well and next week and will see what is possible. It will also potentially be like $20-40k in fixes. If it's not even physically possible to fix this, then I basically just will need to get through the 105f+ summer here with my crappy portable AC. But maybe in that case I could cut a hole in the bedroom walls to make exhaust holes and just build in room AC units in my 2 bedrooms. There's probably some solution, but hopefully it can be fixed.

[Bebpo]

I also packed up like 75% of my place in boxes ready to move and now that I'm not moving it's just depressing looking at them all. Because the next 6-12 months is now so uncertain, pretty much just going to leave everything in boxes. No motivation to put stuff back in closets and things. So if I stay here a few more years everyone who comes over will be like wtf, why is your entire living room boxes like you're about to move?

I'd probably put stuff back at some point. But I'm just too busy with everything atm and it's not a priority.

[Nintex]

Don't be so hard on yourself bro.

Maybe you can make some money from this house by doing short rentals on AirBnB once it's in an ok condition?
Just going by inflation alone you should be able to sell it for what you bought it for and if you have to sell it for less that means that whatever you're going to buy has likely gone down in price as well.

For you it might be a big issue but another buyer might own a construction company or knows a guy who knows a guy who can fix it for cheap.
I would just put it up for the same price as you bought it for and see if anyone bites. Based on the story of your search it doesn't seem like there are many options right now so selling it as is might not be as hard as you think.

[Bebpo]

Thanks, yeah I could rent it but A) That would require me to be a landlord and I don't think I have the temperament for that, and B) The market is a complete seller's market now where people will make compromises and put up with a lot of crap just to get something, the market could be different in a year after a one year lease and might be harder to sell.

As much as I'd love to just put it right back up. The problem is commission is about 5% between buyer/seller's agents. So that's $50,000 they take out of the sale price, plus a couple of thousand for escrow fees and misc stuff and even selling it for exactly the same amount I bought it for I'd lose about $55,000 instantly.

Then because of the perception of looking at the sale history and seeing someone bought a property and then instantly a few weeks later put it right back up for sale, people will avoid the property so offers probably come in at like 75% of the market value or something. So not only would I struggle to sell it for what I bought it for, but after commissions and escrow fees I'd lose even more. My best guess is like $100,000 loss, but could be more.

At least making it nice enough to be a flip the profit margin of what otherwise would be flip profit, should be enough to cover repairs + commission. That is my hope, so that I can break even. But just never know. It's enough money that it's worth trying to minimize the loss as much as possible even if it's a depressing pain in the ass for a few months.

[Snoopycat_]

I thought I'd buy a new bottle of Dior's Sauvage so I went on Ebay. My God, the amount of fake bullshit on there is staggering. I think I counted 5 ads that looked legit. Almost every ad which claimed to be 100% genuine was clearly fake. I don't know how Ebay haven't been sued to the moon

[Uncle]

sounds like a really stressful situation bebpo, but you'll get through it, just one step at a time

I'm worried about you trying to upgrade the house to get it into a flippable state...I'm picturing like getting all the cupboards ripped out, but sourcing good new ones becomes a problem, so it sits without cupboards for a while and feels like even more of an albatross, in the meantime working on some other part of the house and that goes wrong too, etc. 

take deep breaths and be cautious

[Snoopycat_]

Won this Timex Marlin on Ebay -



I put in a fuck it bid on about 3 minutes before the auction ended. These sell for over £200, my bid was 67 quid so I really didn't expect to win it. There was a weird buffering delay at the end and the countdown timer started glitching out. Never seen that happen before. I think the snipers came in a bit too late and the system defaulted back to my bid. I'm interested to see if the seller actually sends it or comes up with a bullshit excuse. I actually wouldn't blame them if they didn't send it. No doubt they'd have been expecting to get around the 250 mark

[Cauliflower Of Love]

name checks out

[Snoopycat_]

[BIONIC]

What’s your favorite piece of Snoopy porn?

[Snoopycat_]

https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph60fb1f35b191e

[Potato]

What’s your favorite piece of Snoopy porn?

Did you forget to log back in to the filler account?

[Cauliflower Of Love]

https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph60fb1f35b191e

I hate you so much for this, and you know why.

[Snoopycat_]

Are you mad she didn't finish the level?

[team filler]

https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph60fb1f35b191e

pokeslut 

[Snoopycat_]

There's a vid on there of some girl riding a dildo on top of a Switch. I don't know why. I suppose it's just what Nintendo people do.

[HardcoreRetro]

Lol, not even the OLED model. What a dumb cunt.

[Polident Hive]

We went from licking a PSP to this. Define escalation.

[remy]

(Image removed from quote.)

I like the on brand snoopy watch

this one goes hard too. great colors + design

[Cauliflower Of Love]

how many of you all will subscribe to my OF if i start one?

[Cauliflower Of Love]

I'm broke.

[Uncle]

what did you do before that you got downsized from?

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Self made entrepreneur selling goods to people who needed goods.

basically an OF without genitals

[Snoopycat_]

I like the on brand snoopy watch

this one goes hard too. great colors + design

The other one arrived this morning. There's a noticeable difference in the quality between them but they both look great.

[Polident Hive]

Left one is classy. And there’s an air of superiority to knowing an unfortunate percentage of society can’t tell time on it.

[Snoopycat_]

Aftershave clones are nuts these days. I bought a Tom Ford one for 20 quid. It's almost identical and lasts longer than the real 300 quid one.

[MMaRsu]

The Super Mario Bros Movie 2023 1080p WEB-DL

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Anyone else not able to read quote posts without going back where the original post is?

[Polident Hive]

As I’m stuck moving between hotel fitness centers, where if I’m lucky at least have 20kg dumbbells, I’ve used this setback to take up running and cardio again. Stamina and endurance are embarrassingly bad. First time post-20s I feel old and decrepit. Kinda depressing but not listen to my friends and take supplements to compensate depressing. But listening to Hearts on Fire isn’t working like it used to.

[team filler]

Anyone else not able to read quote posts without going back where the original post is?

no

[Cauliflower Of Love]

me niether

[chronovore]

As I’m stuck moving between hotel fitness centers, where if I’m lucky at least have 20kg dumbbells, I’ve used this setback to take up running and cardio again. Stamina and endurance are embarrassingly bad. First time post-20s I feel old and decrepit. Kinda depressing but not listen to my friends and take supplements to compensate depressing. But listening to Hearts on Fire isn’t working like it used to.

Stick with it. Cardio will clear up some of that sadness once the endorphins start flying. If you're truly decrepit, try an elliptical or stationary bike. Better for your knees.

[james]

The scientists were so preoccupied with whether they could, they didn’t stop to think if they should.

To make a customized sauce, consumers will use the touchscreen to select a base of either ketchup, ranch, 57 Sauce or BBQ sauce; add in “enhancers” that include jalapeno, smoky chipotle, buffalo and mango; and set one of three intensity levels.

Alan Kleinerman, head of disruption at Kraft Heinz, told CNBC his favorite combination is ranch dressing, with a heavy dose of jalapeno and a lighter infusion of smoky chipotle. But a dark horse — mango ketchup — generated the most buzz around Kraft Heinz’s office recently, he said.

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/05/17/kraft-heinz-remix-customizable-sauce-dispenser.html

[Snoopycat_]

I was standing at some traffic lights and choked on a swig of water. I tried to hold it in which resulted in me coughing and spraying water through my fist across the back of this guy's shirt. It was a bit embarrassing.

[Bebpo]

Had my first passive aggressive neighbor situation.

So on the last page or so here I posted a photo of my blue lantern front door light that came with the house. It flickers like a candle and lights the section of the street in a blue flame.

Well I had hardly ever used it, but I was there on Tuesday night at like 9-10pm picking up mail with a friend and I wanted to show them the blue light thing and turned it on for like 5 mins while I grabbed some stuff from the house.

I didn't go to the house on Wednesday, I normally go there daily since I'm dealing with a million contractors and that was probably the first day I skipped since I bought it. But when I was there first thing in the morning on Thursday to meet my first of 4 contractors for the day there, the light was gone. The fixture was there but someone had come and just unscrewed the light bulb and left with it.

Since no one would have any fucking idea the lightbulb in my front light fixture which is never on during the day and has only been on like twice in the last 3 weeks is anything special and worth taking; the only people who would know that would be like my 3 neighbors on each side and across from me.

I'm assuming someone hated that light when the previous owner used it and was hoping myself, as the new owner, would toss it, but after I turned it on Tuesday night they saw the blue flame they hate and decided when no one was around to just come and take it.

If I was petty I'd go online and buy the same blue flickering candle light and put it in the front light fixture and start leaving it on each night and put a camera in and see if someone comes back and takes it.

Buuut, starting a new place with a neighbor fight is a bad idea so I'll just move on and put a basic bitch lightbulb in.

[Bebpo]

Also since I haven't posted in a while. Latest updates are:

New house:

-Still trying to fix the core foundational/drainage/mold issues which are expensive and difficult for experts to fix. House never had any drainage put in, ever. Just hid everything with giant walls of soil against the wall.

-Still have a dozen+ issues to fix, every day something is fixed and something new is discovered.

-Paid a lot of money with my general contractor and they did a 95% great job but they really fucked up a thing that I discovered after paying them the completion bit, so supposedly they will fix it but we'll see. They put in a door to a garage and uh, it doesn't seal (which is kind of bad for a door to a garage), and they couldn't put in a deadbolt because the hole was irregular size and the handle lock doesn't fit in the strike part so there is no way to lock the door into your house currently. The seal thing is kind of the bad thing since doors are supposed to seal with the jam they come with...may need to replace the whole thing.

-Literally had a handyman spend 5 hours trying to get a replacement single sprinkler to shoot in the right direction and not at the house and the mold/drainage areas. He gave up and will "watch more videos tonight and come back in the morning" 

My Condo:

-Got the place painted and the drywall/mold below my skylight fixed. But the painters fucking TRASHED my place. Like destroyed every carpet, dining table, paint on every appliance, paint on cabinets, paint on granite counters, paint on window screens. They painted a door closed and the paint dried and the door was stuck and I had to do a SWAT style door kick to break the paint to get it open and there's a crack now. Had to throw out my toaster over because got paint dust/debris in the fucking toaster in parts that are impossible to clean and I'm not eating my bagel with painted paint dust toppings.

-I moved out while it was painted and gave it a couple of days but I'm back now and the paint smell is still so strong ugh. Windows been open 24/7 all week but we're having a crazy monsoon humid week or two and it's like 84% humidity outside and leaving the windows open means the inside of my place is unbearably humid and that the paint is taking forever to cure because it's too wet and humid. Running dehumidifiers but they're slow and don't work unless I close up the windows and then it smells heavy like paint. This sucks.

-Was working with plumbers today and lots of issues, my pressure is way too high but no way to regulate it without spending a lot to rebuild my entire water main (which I just had to do at the other house because the water main was leaking and it was $400 to rebuild). It's 70 PSI and everything hammers, toilets whistle, pipes squeak, and I put in a new sink faucet and it explodes so hard it splashes the entire floor and counter unless it's barely on. Probably just going to spend the $400 to rebuild the main with a pressure regulator. Also found out my dishwasher is not up to code because no loop or air gap to prevent sewage backups and the main line may have had a backup in the past with bacteria in the line still and to fix it need to pull the dishwasher except the 40 year old dishwasher was tiled in when the place was built so can't do that without jackhammering the tile out of the kitchen :|


Anyhow, I'm pretty sure by the time I fix the new house I'll be in it more than market and that's "if" I can actually fix the drainage/mold/health issues enough to make it liveable.

And my condo still doesn't have AC. My guy is slow as hell and maybe in two weeks I'll have a new mold free unit and he'll run some bleach in my AC Ducts for a half day, the ducts which I discovered were built into the walls 40 years ago and there is no way to ever change the 40 year old deteriorating AC ducts here. Hopefully that will keep the air mold free.

My condo is also currently a fucking mess between half packing and moving all the furniture away from walls to get the place painted and the painter trashing it and plumbers making a mess in the kitchen and laundry area and the whole place reeking of paint.

I don't sleep much anymore between work and constantly at both places with contractors most of the day. Just sucks not having a place that's a non-mess to stay at the end of the day. If I can get my new AC unit in my condo and eventually this paint cures, and uh replace all the fucked carpet, and rebuild the water main and lower the PSI and get a working sink faucet again, I guess my condo should be chill again. If the new house can ever get shit fixed, will probably move there since I'll be in over what it's worth I think and if it's actually fixed it's a solid house with some quirks.

[Bebpo]

But yeah, definitely what you don't want to come back to after having your house painted:

[Potato]

You should definitely take a shit on your neighbours doorstep. That's the alpha move. Establish dominance early.

[Snoopycat_]

Not for nothing but where are you getting these "contractors" Special needs trades section? Tik Tok?  What you want to do is grab that painter by the scruff of his neck, drag him to the spot where he did his mess and rub his face in it.

[Transhuman]

If I was petty I'd go online and buy the same blue flickering candle light and put it in the front light fixture and start leaving it on each night and put a camera in and see if someone comes back and takes it.

Buuut, starting a new place with a neighbor fight is a bad idea so I'll just move on and put a basic bitch lightbulb in.

You know exactly what you need to do, but won't? What they did isn't "passive aggressive" and you ought to find who this person is so you know who to protect yourself from in the future. If they're willing to do this just because they want to, what next.

[team filler]

 

what happens next time they don't like something about your house? they're gonna keep punking you forever like this.

sounds like you need to hire a couple guys like me and trashy to get your dirty deeds done dirt cheap 

[Snoopycat_]

Wasn't there an episode of Curb where Larry got a massive light and shone it on his neighbour's windows?

[chronovore]

Bebsy, pls. consider taking that contractor to court for damages. I’ve never seen such egregious bullshit.

[james]

Are your contractors white? Get some good mexicans

[Bebpo]

The contractors I'm using for painting are actually pretty big shot ones friends and family use who do work for fortune 500 companies and stuff.

They have like 80 employees and multiple teams running at once and it's clear some teams are better than others.
The team that did my new house didn't leave a speck of paint anywhere in the entire house. They cleaned up really well.
The team that did my condo left it like a total disaster.

They came back and are cleaning it up now (outside the carpet which is just fucked until I replace the carpet at some point).

Are your contractors white? Get some good mexicans

Nah, almost all mexican.

[Bebpo]

And even if I wanted to take a dump on a neighbors porch, I don't know for sure which neighbor it was that stole my light, so...

[Transhuman]

Rookie stuff. Shit on all three and leave a note that says "this is because you stole my light". The one who knocks on your door is the one who stole it.

[Bebpo]

They did a good job on the clean up (besides the carpet and toaster oven I had to toss). It's like they forgot to have their clean up guy come at the end on my condo job. Though I guess with the carpet they just figured I was replacing the carpet before I sell it so they could trash it. Idk.



I'm down to speed up getting my carpet replaced but not sure if they can do it in my bedroom because the bed frame is huge and takes up 1/4th of the room and you can't move it out of the room without sawing it apart. Was planning on carpeting after moving...

[Bebpo]

The front of the new house is driving me nuts though.

At first it just seemed like the side of the house was a disaster since there's no drainage and the area floods and floods into the crawlspace. But the solution to that one is easy, just build a drainage channel pipe along the side of the house.



But the front of the house in front of the bedrooms has black mold because there was a planter area full of plants and wet soil packed high. Cleared out all the soil and plants but shit is constantly muddy wet. We even graded the soil slope away from the house which sort of worked but not entirely.





It's also right in the shade so it almost never gets any sun so it takes forever to dry as well.

The drip lines are off
Then discovered sprinklers were turning and shooting into there so fixed that
Then discovered water main was leaking and keeping a lake of water in the soil under it so rebuilt the water main
Then discovered a broken sprinkler pipe was running under it flooding the soil with wet water, so fixed that
Then discovered several of the sprinkler valves were drip leaking into pools of water below them so working on that along with the rest of the broken sprinklers that flood the front at several places.

Then if all that is fixed, still have the rain gutter drainage issue where two of the roof rain gutter downspouts just dump everything into this planter soil row. So need to redo the gutters.

Then if the rain stops getting into the front planter
And if all the leaky broken pipes which seem like every.goddamn.pipe.in.this.1950s.house are fixed

Then if that planter still looks wet and muddy there's something else going on
But if it ever actually becomes dry some day, can tell the soil to fuck off and just put concrete brickers/pavers over it to keep the few feet from the bedroom windows dry and non-black-mold-forming.

It's just a long process. My handyman is still working today, I have a sprinkler repair company coming on Monday if he can't fix the current issues he's working on and the valve leaks, and I have a drainage design expert company coming in a couple of weeks to plan out new rain gutters and drainage situations.

We were thinking of running a drain pipe along the front of the walled patio inner side to collect all the water and connect the pipe to the one we'll build on the side and dump it all at the street, but if I end up doing like bricks/pavers in that area that won't fly so need to figure it out.

Something like this would be good:


Also if I put artificial grass in the front lawn I can get rid of/shutoff my front sprinklers entirely, which would be nice since they seem to all be busted and leaky and I don't even want to see my first water bill with every pipe leaking.

[Transhuman]

You can probably get that paint out of the carpet with detergent, water and a brush. Or at the very least lighten it to the point where it's not noticeable.

[Potato]

And even if I wanted to take a dump on a neighbors porch, I don't know for sure which neighbor it was that stole my light, so...

...so do all three. It's what your primal ancestors would have wanted. ESTABLISH DOMINANCE!!!!

[Bebpo]

What I'm learning with house stuff is that it's slow and expensive and takes up all your time to get stuff fixed when you have a backlog of repairs to take care of and it's not just 1 or 2 things.

Just totaled where I'm at on repair costs and my condo, if I include the $7k I need for my new AC unit I'm about $13k in on repairs and still need to do the carpet, bathtub re-plastering and fixtures if I wanted to sell it. Maybe put some vinyl (ugh) flooring on tile in my living room because who the fuck wants dark grey tile in their living room.

On my house I'm already $21k in on repairs and uh, I still need to build an entire drainage system, re-landscape at least part of the lawn, re-do most the house's electricity, put in new AC and AC Ducts, remove a few stalks of dead bamboo and build something in their place in the gap in the treeline, redo the lighting in the house, take care of some chimney issues, crawlspace/foundation issues, kitchen minor stuff, some plumbing stuff in bathrooms, and then maybe paint the front of the house, also need to discover the problem with the sewer monster in the back and no idea what we will discover or the costs to fix.

Pretty sure it's going to take me $100k to get this place into a moveable/sellable condition. Oh shoot and forgot I have to re-roof the entire place. So yeah $100k may be tight. Might end up closer to like $120-130k. This is without any major update remodels like redoing the kitchen or moving walls or anything. This is mostly just repairs to get it into turn-key sale state.

Which isn't as bad as I feared as long as it doesn't balloon that much over that or certain major issues end up unsolvable. I figured I bought the house about $100k under market last month, although with the most recent fed rate hike I'm starting to see house prices start to fall in my area finally, so maybe I bought in the absolute peak month of the market. Anyhow, $100k would put me about what I think a fixed version of the house is worth. Was budgeting about $50k for repairs initially before discovering all the real problems.

I also have zero furniture so I needed to budget to fill out a small house and moving costs.

I wouldn't be surprised if I end up like $1.15M->$1.2M into on a house worth about $1.05-$1.1M by that point (and if I sold I'd lose $50k in commissions so would net like $1M).

But if all the major shit is fixed and it's liveable I'll just live there for a bunch of years and hopefully be able to break about even when I sell it. I don't think I'll have any issues selling my condo since the lower end of the market is still doing pretty well as people are turning more to nice turn-key condos over houses at these prices.

But if major stuff can't be fixed in the new house, will have to stay at my condo (fine) and sell the new house and probably will lose about $100k-$200k which would suck hard and would just have to save that up again and hope the market is better by the time I'm back at the same financial home purchasing spot.

[Snoopycat_]

The thing about these big agencies is they’re not exactly fussed about who they hire. They’ll say they hire the best but that’s bullshit. The best are either independent or employed full time by companies. They wouldn’t accept the wages  agencies offer. My best advice is go local if you can. Especially if house flipping is something you are looking to do regularly. If you can build a good relationship with a small team of independents you’ll save a fortune and you’ll have a lot less headaches in the long run.

[Bebpo]

The thing about these big agencies is they’re not exactly fussed about who they hire. They’ll say they hire the best but that’s bullshit. The best are either independent or employed full time by companies. They wouldn’t accept the wages  agencies offer. My best advice is go local if you can. Especially if house flipping is something you are looking to do regularly. If you can build a good relationship with a small team of independents you’ll save a fortune and you’ll have a lot less headaches in the long run.

The thing is that this painter guy was originally a small guy and friends and family have been using him for 20 years, but now he has 80 employees and he's the biggest painter in this area of So Cal.

His prices are also pretty competitive and reasonable. Not like price gouging or anything. And he's out at the site every day or two and hands on.

To be fair, my real estate agent from the last house I almost bought told me when things went wrong during the inspection like the brand new dishwasher flooded the brand new flip kitchen, that no matter what contractors you use, stuff will go wrong. There's just enough parts to things that people make mistakes and mess stuff up. But you can who are the good contractors by the ones who are dependable to come back and fix those things and make it right.

And these guys are fixing all the stuff and making it right outside a couple of things. If I wasn't planning on replacing my carpet I'd be pissed, but at the end they didn't charge me to paint my small kitchen at my condo (because I told them not to paint it, so it wasn't in the price estimate, and also was why I didn't clear out some appliance from the kitchen counter like my toaster oven, because they weren't supposed to be painting in there), so I got that for free, but they ruined a $130 toaster and a window screen I need to replace, so it probably evens out.

[Bebpo]

Oh and my handyman fixed the sprinkler today that he was stuck on for 5 hours yesterday.

He called their customer service and apparently the instructions on the sprinkler package were reversed and it was the opposite that he needed to be doing to set the spray arc. He said they apologized to him.

[team filler]

I thought beb's was jewish 

how are you being taken for your money so easily? 

[Bebpo]

I thought beb's was jewish 

how are you being taken for your money so easily? 

I only went to Jewish school until I was 13.

I think they teach the money saving secrets after that. I just learned how to read some old fables and sing the songs of my people.

[Potato]

Thinking of you tonight @filler. I'm out seeing the band Unto Others and there's a bunch of big tiddy goth girls who are right up your alley.

[james]

Pics?