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Re: The greatest movie ever made is 30 years old this Friday
« Reply #60 on: May 21, 2010, 06:45:07 PM »

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Re: The Empire Strikes Back 30th Anniversary
« Reply #61 on: May 21, 2010, 06:57:00 PM »
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The Empire Strikes Back: The film that introduced a generation to tragedy

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Re: The Empire Strikes Back 30th Anniversary
« Reply #62 on: May 21, 2010, 07:17:19 PM »
phantom of the menace: the film that redefined tragedy to the same generation

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Re: The Empire Strikes Back 30th Anniversary
« Reply #63 on: May 21, 2010, 08:14:26 PM »
phantom of the menace: the film that redefined tragedy to the same generation
Yeah. I went to see Phantom Menace at a midnight showing on opening day. I was -SO- hyped, because it had been so long since Return of the Jedi, and I was so hopeful... The movie ended after 2 a.m. and I was driving home and I thought, "Jesus, what the fuck did I just watch?" I've resigned myself to thinking of TPM as the world's best-financed fan film: gorgeous, but entirely devoid of validity.

As for Empire, I can't believe they've added Avatar clothes to the 360. I feel like everyone's going to be wearing Boba Fett's helmet soon.  :-\


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Re: The Empire Strikes Back 30th Anniversary
« Reply #64 on: May 21, 2010, 09:13:11 PM »
the problem with the pre trilogy is that from the time of the original trilogy lucas became an icon therefore nobody wanted to challenge him creatively, the behind the scenes i full of arts where he says some obviously stupid idea and everyone around him just goes into a hundred mile stare

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Re: The Empire Strikes Back 30th Anniversary
« Reply #65 on: May 21, 2010, 10:13:47 PM »
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Re: The Empire Strikes Back 30th Anniversary
« Reply #66 on: May 21, 2010, 10:30:43 PM »
the problem with the pre trilogy is that from the time of the original trilogy lucas became an icon therefore nobody wanted to challenge him creatively, the behind the scenes i full of arts where he says some obviously stupid idea and everyone around him just goes into a hundred mile stare
That, and it has been posited by "star wars scholars" that Lucas was a hungry young director who wanted to make a point, and then as of RotJ he realized that he wanted to be a father. He has stated that he felt he'd been ignoring his kids, and wanted to be done with it. Changing from wookies to ewoks may have been less of a marketing decision, and simply the softening of Lucas' vision to make it safer for kids.

Arguably, it's this same "make it safe for kids" ethos that drove The Phantom Menace away from the dark, cool, heroic epic of the original 1977 Star Wars movie and into what is, to a large extent, the comedic and dramatic equivalent of Home Alone in Space.

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Re: The Empire Strikes Back 30th Anniversary
« Reply #67 on: May 22, 2010, 01:54:37 AM »
Lucas ghost directed ROTJ along with an assistant director of Kersner. Marquand couldn't deal with the effects or the cast.

It's kind if like how Kurt Russell is the real director of Tombstone.
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Re: The Empire Strikes Back 30th Anniversary
« Reply #68 on: May 22, 2010, 02:16:23 AM »
yeah, they should've gotten costner.

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Re: The Empire Strikes Back 30th Anniversary
« Reply #69 on: May 22, 2010, 02:38:37 AM »
I'd kill for another Costner directed Western. Both Dances and Open Range are better than Tombstone.
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Re: The Empire Strikes Back 30th Anniversary
« Reply #70 on: May 22, 2010, 04:23:37 AM »
Lucas ghost directed ROTJ along with an assistant director of Kersner. Marquand couldn't deal with the effects or the cast.

It's kind if like how Kurt Russell is the real director of Tombstone.

Of course, this only came out after Marquand was dead and couldn't refute it.  Curious, huh?
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Re: The Empire Strikes Back 30th Anniversary
« Reply #71 on: May 22, 2010, 01:08:26 PM »
Found somebodies new avatar...

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Re: The Empire Strikes Back 30th Anniversary
« Reply #72 on: May 22, 2010, 01:20:58 PM »
Lucas ghost directed ROTJ along with an assistant director of Kersner. Marquand couldn't deal with the effects or the cast.

It's kind if like how Kurt Russell is the real director of Tombstone.

Of course, this only came out after Marquand was dead and couldn't refute it.  Curious, huh?

Kershner said it, not Lucas.
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Re: The Empire Strikes Back 30th Anniversary
« Reply #73 on: May 22, 2010, 03:58:37 PM »
I'd kill for another Costner directed Western. Both Dances and Open Range are better than Tombstone.

Whaaaa? Tombstone was miles away from Dance.
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Re: The Empire Strikes Back 30th Anniversary
« Reply #74 on: May 22, 2010, 04:00:04 PM »
I'd kill for another Costner directed Western. Both Dances and Open Range are better than Tombstone.

Whaaaa? Tombstone was miles away from Dance.



Wrong.
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Re: The Empire Strikes Back 30th Anniversary
« Reply #75 on: May 22, 2010, 04:01:01 PM »
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Re: The Empire Strikes Back 30th Anniversary
« Reply #76 on: May 22, 2010, 08:43:44 PM »
Lucas ghost directed ROTJ along with an assistant director of Kersner. Marquand couldn't deal with the effects or the cast.

It's kind if like how Kurt Russell is the real director of Tombstone.

Of course, this only came out after Marquand was dead and couldn't refute it.  Curious, huh?

Kershner said it, not Lucas.

Again, this only came out after Marquand was dead and couldn't respond.  Curious, huh?
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Re: The Empire Strikes Back 30th Anniversary
« Reply #77 on: May 23, 2010, 01:59:15 PM »
Spielberg was going to be the original director of Return of the Jedi.

He was coming off of Raiders of the Lost Ark too.

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Re: The Empire Strikes Back 30th Anniversary
« Reply #78 on: May 24, 2010, 06:39:17 PM »
Spielberg was going to be the original director of Return of the Jedi.

He was coming off of Raiders of the Lost Ark too.

 :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(



No he wasn't. He was the first choice for director, but he could've never done it due to Lucas' feud with the Director's Guild. No director that was part of the guild could direct Jedi.
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Re: The Empire Strikes Back 30th Anniversary
« Reply #79 on: May 26, 2010, 04:39:38 PM »
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Re: The Empire Strikes Back 30th Anniversary
« Reply #80 on: May 28, 2010, 06:26:33 PM »
I don't know what that is, but I like it. I suspect if he remade Return of the Jedi, I'd prefer his version.