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Smooth Groove

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Re: Microsoft's slim Xbox
« Reply #240 on: June 20, 2010, 02:20:49 PM »
I may have went a bit overboard in my return to Gamestop today. In addition to the 6 games I bought along with the console, plus the XBLA games I purchased,  I just picked up:

Mass Effect 2
Left 4 Dead 2
Gears of War 2
Hitman: Blood Money
Forza 3
Deadly Premonition
Dyack's Folly
Kameo
Perfect Dark Zero

I guess I should start playing some games.

Used games sale?  How much total?

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Re: Microsoft's slim Xbox
« Reply #241 on: June 20, 2010, 02:21:25 PM »
They have a B2G1 sale this weekend.
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Re: Microsoft's slim Xbox
« Reply #242 on: June 20, 2010, 02:42:10 PM »
I may have went a bit overboard in my return to Gamestop today. In addition to the 6 games I bought along with the console, plus the XBLA games I purchased,  I just picked up:

Mass Effect 2
Left 4 Dead 2
Gears of War 2
Hitman: Blood Money
Forza 3
Deadly Premonition
Dyack's Folly
Kameo
Perfect Dark Zero

I guess I should start playing some games.

Used games sale?  How much total?

With my Edge card, the total was $122.06, but I traded in $38.60 worth of games, plus I had $15 put down on games that I had received review copies of, so I put that towards the total as well. Out of pocket I paid $68.46.

Edit: I know I shouldn't install Halo 3, does this apply to any of the games I bought today?

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Re: Microsoft's slim Xbox
« Reply #243 on: June 20, 2010, 02:45:35 PM »
No

I would install Halo 3 anyway. The luxury of not having to use the drive outweighs any increased load time - supposed load time, anyway
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Smooth Groove

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Re: Microsoft's slim Xbox
« Reply #244 on: June 20, 2010, 02:48:25 PM »
I may have went a bit overboard in my return to Gamestop today. In addition to the 6 games I bought along with the console, plus the XBLA games I purchased,  I just picked up:

Mass Effect 2
Left 4 Dead 2
Gears of War 2
Hitman: Blood Money
Forza 3
Deadly Premonition
Dyack's Folly
Kameo
Perfect Dark Zero

I guess I should start playing some games.

Used games sale?  How much total?

With my Edge card, the total was $122.06, but I traded in $38.60 worth of games, plus I had $15 put down on games that I had received review copies of, so I put that towards the total as well. Out of pocket I paid $68.46.

Edit: I know I shouldn't install Halo 3, does this apply to any of the games I bought today?

Nice pickup.  Sometimes, it does pay to wait. 

Shurs

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Re: Microsoft's slim Xbox
« Reply #245 on: June 20, 2010, 02:52:21 PM »
No

I would install Halo 3 anyway. The luxury of not having to use the drive outweighs any increased load time - supposed load time, anyway

Thanks.

I'm really enjoying the 360, but I knew I would. I was waiting WiFi and Valhalla, and now that the machine has that, I knew I couldn't hold off any longer. The social features are great and, as opposed as I am to paying for online play, I will be purchasing a 12 month Gold card before my free month expires. I think Amazon has a deal of a 12 month card for $38, is that a good deal or do you think I can find it cheaper within the next month?

Also, if anyone wants to play anything online, my gamertag is Shur Son.

Nice pickup.  Sometimes, it does pay to wait. 

I'm actually not too proud about buying so many used games, as I mostly buy new. I did buy new copies of Left4Dead 1 , Mass Effect 1 and Crackdown. But so far, that's it aside from XBLA games, all of which (Trials HD, Shadow Complex, Splosion Man, GeoWars2, Castle Crashers) were half price this week.

I'll pick up Splinter Cell: Conviction new. I'm hoping to get a review copy of Crackdown 2, but if I don't I'll definitely pick it up.

« Last Edit: June 20, 2010, 02:58:06 PM by Shurs »

maxy

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Re: Microsoft's slim Xbox
« Reply #246 on: June 20, 2010, 02:56:49 PM »
No

I would install Halo 3 anyway. The luxury of not having to use the drive outweighs any increased load time - supposed load time, anyway

It exists but it's not big,about 10 seconds i think,after that game works perfectly normal and without noise.

« Last Edit: June 20, 2010, 02:59:04 PM by maxy »
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Re: Microsoft's slim Xbox
« Reply #247 on: June 20, 2010, 06:51:26 PM »
this thing is so ugly.  microsoft is pretty much screwed between this version that still overheats and Kinect being stupid expensive and laggy.  Will buy a cheap arcade console when they eventually release Microsoft-ga-ga-ga to make fun of themselves for failing so hard.

Your posts have been disgusting ever since you turned in your Xbot badge. 

shu tup, i'm a go play some Killzone 2 online deathmatch on my PLAYSTATION 3®

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« Reply #248 on: June 20, 2010, 07:54:41 PM »
Yes, an internal hard drive and Wi-fi set this apart from the competition.

Built in wireless N (PS Triple got b/g) a 250 g drive, has reduced power consumption drastically, is smaller and by all accounts I've read so far is quieter, all important aspects which have addressed problems with previous iterations. As with any new SKU new problems may arise with it at a later date but at first impressions it's a big upgrade from previous units. So yeah, relatively this thing be packin.
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« Reply #249 on: June 21, 2010, 12:48:59 AM »
This new Slim 360 is awesome, I may be getting a free system because of it!! :rock
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« Reply #250 on: June 21, 2010, 12:53:20 AM »
Yes, an internal hard drive and Wi-fi set this apart from the competition.

Built in wireless N (PS Triple got b/g) a 250 g drive, has reduced power consumption drastically, is smaller and by all accounts I've read so far is quieter, all important aspects which have addressed problems with previous iterations. As with any new SKU new problems may arise with it at a later date but at first impressions it's a big upgrade from previous units. So yeah, relatively this thing be packin.

So wi-fi, a bigger hard-drive, reduced power consumption, reduced noise levels, and a smaller form factor than the previous sku?

Sounds vaguely familiar.

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« Reply #251 on: June 21, 2010, 02:09:29 AM »
qID, I can't believe you're even responding to such a clear case of sarcasm and empty trolling. Ask him how he likes his group voicechat, cross-game voicechat, playing his custom music while using any kind of network connection, being able to play games offline if you don't feel like updating over the course of hours, and how great it is to be able to demo any downloadable game before committing to a purchase.

That's if he was being sarcastic about the superior feature set of the PS3. If he was being sarcastic about the Wii, just ask him about his friends list.

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« Reply #252 on: June 21, 2010, 11:56:17 AM »
So... they didn't fix the disc scratching issue and now the system still overheats?

Did they do anything to the damn thing or did they just put wireless in and drop a new plastic case on it?
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Re: Microsoft's slim Xbox
« Reply #253 on: June 21, 2010, 12:42:55 PM »
also, penis.

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Re: Microsoft's slim Xbox
« Reply #254 on: June 21, 2010, 12:45:47 PM »
This new Slim 360 is awesome, I may be getting a free system because of it!! :rock
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Re: Microsoft's slim Xbox
« Reply #255 on: June 21, 2010, 02:21:36 PM »
So... they didn't fix the disc scratching issue and now the system still overheats?

Did they do anything to the damn thing or did they just put wireless in and drop a new plastic case on it?

all consoles have that disc scratching issue. protip: don't jostle your fucking console while playing. alternatively, install to the hd.

it doesn't overheat; at least, no more than the ps3 does. i've lost a ps3 to overheating, courtesy of a four year old daughter. protip 2: don't play your next-gen console with the damn thing sealed in a small cabinet enclosure! the new 360 will at least WARN you and shut down if it gets too hot.
« Last Edit: June 21, 2010, 02:24:20 PM by Professor Prole »
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Re: Microsoft's slim Xbox
« Reply #256 on: June 21, 2010, 02:23:44 PM »
also don't lay shit like game boxes on top of it and block those vents
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Re: Microsoft's slim Xbox
« Reply #257 on: June 21, 2010, 02:42:19 PM »
wait it really doesn't come with component or HDMI cables?

TripleA

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« Reply #258 on: June 21, 2010, 02:51:52 PM »
qID, I can't believe you're even responding to such a clear case of sarcasm and empty trolling. Ask him how he likes his group voicechat, cross-game voicechat, playing his custom music while using any kind of network connection, being able to play games offline if you don't feel like updating over the course of hours, and how great it is to be able to demo any downloadable game before committing to a purchase.

That's if he was being sarcastic about the superior feature set of the PS3. If he was being sarcastic about the Wii, just ask him about his friends list.

I like all of those features quite much actually.




TripleA

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Re: Microsoft's slim Xbox
« Reply #259 on: June 21, 2010, 02:55:31 PM »
Anyways, I'll probably buy the $199 arcade when it comes out.

A less noisy 360 is absolutely welcome.

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Re: Microsoft's slim Xbox
« Reply #260 on: June 21, 2010, 02:55:44 PM »
the new 360 will at least WARN you and shut down if it gets too hot.
*start up game
"ESRB Notice: Game Experience May Change During Online Play"
"Warning: your xbox is too hot and will die in 3..2..1..."
« Last Edit: June 21, 2010, 02:58:29 PM by Father_Mike »
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Re: Microsoft's slim Xbox
« Reply #261 on: June 21, 2010, 08:02:41 PM »
qID, I can't believe you're even responding to such a clear case of sarcasm and empty trolling. Ask him how he likes his group voicechat, cross-game voicechat, playing his custom music while using any kind of network connection, being able to play games offline if you don't feel like updating over the course of hours, and how great it is to be able to demo any downloadable game before committing to a purchase.

That's if he was being sarcastic about the superior feature set of the PS3. If he was being sarcastic about the Wii, just ask him about his friends list.

I like all of those features quite much actually.

[img]http://topnews.us/images/steam-logo.jpg[img]

[img]http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/cqtwo/files/2008/09/600px-smileysvg.png[img]

Reading comprehension, ftl.

If you're going to talk about PC gaming, let's get into how inferior the 360 is because it lacks printer drivers, and how bad the PS3 is because you can't use OpenOffice any longer.

chronovore

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« Reply #262 on: June 21, 2010, 10:09:54 PM »
For those peeps speculating about the Arcade model and bundles:
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Kinect bundles and $199 360 confirmed (reg req'd for full article)

Microsoft has appeared to confirm hardware bundles with the Xbox 360 and Kinect, as well as a $199 version of the redesigned Xbox 360 console - although details remain sparse.

An internal marketing Q&A obtained by website Kotaku indicates that the newly unveiled Kinect camera system will be available as "part of a bundle with the newly designed Xbox 360 console".

Although console bundles for Kinect have been widely assumed throughout the industry, Microsoft's refusal to announce a price for the standalone Kinect system meant that no package deals have been officially confirmed.

The Kinect price is due to be revealed at the gamescom event in August, but multiple retailers are already listing it for $150.

The website of U.S. retailer GameStop has previously listed a $299 Arcade bundle with Kinect, as well as a $399 Elite version - although both these listings now appear to have been removed.

The Q&A also confirms that Microsoft will release "a $199 Xbox 360 this fall". Although this would seem likely to refer to a cheaper version of the new, slimline Xbox 360, the exactly wording of the document is ambiguous.

The only version of the redesigned Xbox 360 confirmed by Microsoft at E3 is currently listed for $299 and includes a 250GB hard drive and a built-in Wi-Fi adapter. If this is assumed to be equivalent to the current "Elite" Xbox 360 SKU, then a $199 version is likely to be equivalent to the Arcade bundle.

The current Arcade SKU does not include a hard drive and is instead bundled with a 256MB memory card. However, the redesigned Xbox 360 does not feature memory card slots and instead has two additional USB ports.

While specifications for any cheaper SKU remain purely at the speculation stage, possible candidates for feature-removal in a cheaper SKU might thus include the 250GB hard drive, or the newly-integrated wireless networking - which required a costly add-on on the older models of 360.

TripleA

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Re: Microsoft's slim Xbox
« Reply #263 on: June 21, 2010, 10:33:51 PM »
qID, I can't believe you're even responding to such a clear case of sarcasm and empty trolling. Ask him how he likes his group voicechat, cross-game voicechat, playing his custom music while using any kind of network connection, being able to play games offline if you don't feel like updating over the course of hours, and how great it is to be able to demo any downloadable game before committing to a purchase.

That's if he was being sarcastic about the superior feature set of the PS3. If he was being sarcastic about the Wii, just ask him about his friends list.

I like all of those features quite much actually.

[img]http://topnews.us/images/steam-logo.jpg[img]

[img]http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/cqtwo/files/2008/09/600px-smileysvg.png[img]

Reading comprehension, ftl.

If you're going to talk about PC gaming, let's get into how inferior the 360 is because it lacks printer drivers, and how bad the PS3 is because you can't use OpenOffice any longer.

Reading comprehension ftl, why are you talking about office functionality.

chronovore

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Re: Microsoft's slim Xbox
« Reply #264 on: June 22, 2010, 12:06:03 AM »
I give up. You're obtuse beyond belief. Are you SURE you're not Methodis?

maxy

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Re: Microsoft's slim Xbox
« Reply #265 on: June 22, 2010, 05:47:04 AM »


Notice the cooler and its fan.More importantly notice the hot air path...straight into our eyes

That means that 360 Sexy is blowing hot air from its left side...plastic casing will obviously redirect it,so it goes at a certain angle towards the back

That also means that if you block the left side,machine will overheat,unlike old 360s that have hot air coming from the back.
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« Reply #266 on: June 22, 2010, 06:11:53 AM »
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you are seriously the worst poster here, between this sa fagshit and the gaffaggot star trek face palm spam in the kinect thread, not to mention not liking dead rising, you sir, suck shit

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Re: Microsoft's slim Xbox
« Reply #267 on: June 22, 2010, 06:55:43 AM »
What is "sa"? Is that another forum? I'm seeing that acronym a lot lately.
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Re: Microsoft's slim Xbox
« Reply #268 on: June 22, 2010, 08:52:36 AM »

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Re: Microsoft's slim Xbox
« Reply #269 on: June 22, 2010, 01:04:11 PM »
[youtube=560,345]iu0mnpbFMt4[/youtube]

:teehee

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Re: Microsoft's slim Xbox
« Reply #270 on: June 22, 2010, 01:28:17 PM »
fake

Philip Cardgage

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Re: Microsoft's slim Xbox
« Reply #271 on: June 22, 2010, 01:30:33 PM »
fake

only as fake as your birth certificate.

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Re: Microsoft's slim Xbox
« Reply #272 on: June 22, 2010, 01:31:33 PM »
It's improperly ventilated.  Of course that was going to happen.


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maxy

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Re: Microsoft's slim Xbox
« Reply #273 on: June 22, 2010, 01:32:08 PM »
 :lol

He should add some Alienware PC to the bunch...for better heating


But that is some kind of hardware failure,console,tv,cables...he shouldn't be able to play console that long

Overheating is also a possibility if temperature sensor is malfunctioning.
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Re: Microsoft's slim Xbox
« Reply #274 on: June 22, 2010, 01:55:48 PM »
:rofl

what a distinguished mentally-challenged fellow!

-he didn't have his slim in front off a fan!
-he probably doesn't have central AC!

Its common sense people!

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Re: Microsoft's slim Xbox
« Reply #275 on: June 22, 2010, 02:32:15 PM »
THAT'S the slim?  But... it's like, almost the same size.  ???
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« Reply #276 on: June 22, 2010, 02:48:04 PM »
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you are seriously the worst poster here, between this sa fagshit and the gaffaggot star trek face palm spam in the kinect thread, not to mention not liking dead rising, you sir, suck shit

I think Dead Rising 2 has the potential to follow in Lost Planet 2's footsteps.


TripleA

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« Reply #277 on: June 22, 2010, 02:49:47 PM »
THAT'S the slim?  But... it's like, almost the same size.  ???

Are you saying you are not satisfied with the inclusion of Wi-fi  :maf !?? ?!?

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Re: Microsoft's slim Xbox
« Reply #278 on: June 22, 2010, 02:50:54 PM »
I don't care that it's not actually slim, I'm just confused by the chosen moniker vs. the reality.
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Re: Microsoft's slim Xbox
« Reply #279 on: June 22, 2010, 03:09:43 PM »
What's there to be confused about, it's Microsoft.

TripleA

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Re: Microsoft's slim Xbox
« Reply #280 on: June 22, 2010, 03:10:24 PM »
I don't care that it's not actually slim, I'm just confused by the chosen moniker vs. the reality.

The slim name is one used by forum goers and bloggers, Microsoft calls it the Xbox 360 250GB or Xbox 360 S.


What does the S stand for?

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Re: Microsoft's slim Xbox
« Reply #281 on: June 22, 2010, 03:11:40 PM »
soundproof

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Re: Microsoft's slim Xbox
« Reply #282 on: June 22, 2010, 03:12:31 PM »
slut

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« Reply #283 on: June 22, 2010, 03:13:50 PM »

Re: Microsoft's slim Xbox
« Reply #284 on: June 22, 2010, 03:18:21 PM »
I don't care that it's not actually slim, I'm just confused by the chosen moniker vs. the reality.

The slim name is one used by forum goers and bloggers, Microsoft calls it the Xbox 360 250GB or Xbox 360 S.


What does the S stand for?

Whatever the S stood for when they released the Xbox Controller S.

I always thought it stood for "small," seeing how it was designed for Japan.
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« Reply #285 on: June 22, 2010, 03:20:12 PM »
I don't care that it's not actually slim, I'm just confused by the chosen moniker vs. the reality.

The slim name is one used by forum goers and bloggers, Microsoft calls it the Xbox 360 250GB or Xbox 360 S.


What does the S stand for?

Whatever the S stood for when they released the Xbox Controller S.

Cool, so the S stands for nothing.

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« Reply #286 on: June 22, 2010, 03:55:24 PM »
So anyone buy it yet?

Got two from amazon, but returned them due to the gamestop trade in deal. Why pay for two new ones when I can get two for the cost of one. Also one of them had a bum hdd right out the box.

TripleA

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« Reply #287 on: June 22, 2010, 04:50:35 PM »
I don't care that it's not actually slim, I'm just confused by the chosen moniker vs. the reality.

The slim name is one used by forum goers and bloggers, Microsoft calls it the Xbox 360 250GB or Xbox 360 S.


What does the S stand for?

Sfags Annihilated

Doesn't have the same ring to it as 'slut'.

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Re: Microsoft's slim Xbox
« Reply #288 on: June 22, 2010, 05:26:54 PM »
yeah, never ever stand your 360 up vertically

maxy

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« Reply #289 on: June 22, 2010, 06:35:28 PM »
http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=940

A real professional breakdown of Xbox 360 Sexy.

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« Reply #290 on: June 22, 2010, 08:03:19 PM »
I don't care that it's not actually slim, I'm just confused by the chosen moniker vs. the reality.

The slim name is one used by forum goers and bloggers, Microsoft calls it the Xbox 360 250GB or Xbox 360 S.


What does the S stand for?

Sfags Annihilated

Violated your own rule, dummy.  >:(

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« Reply #291 on: June 22, 2010, 08:17:30 PM »
yeah, never ever stand your 360 up vertically

I've had mine standing vertically for probably a year now? No problems.
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Re: Microsoft's slim Xbox
« Reply #292 on: June 22, 2010, 08:18:45 PM »
Nutjuice, that's cuz you're only using it for Netflix. 

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« Reply #293 on: June 22, 2010, 08:44:56 PM »
I had mine standing for 2 years with no problems. Now I have it laying down though.
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« Reply #294 on: June 22, 2010, 10:33:55 PM »
Nutjuice, that's cuz you're only using it for Netflix. 

I beat Mass Effect 2! And I've played MW2 for a few days total!
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Re: Microsoft's slim Xbox
« Reply #295 on: June 23, 2010, 03:28:08 PM »
some of you new owners may be interested in the xbl family plan.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/22/xbox-live-family-subscription-plan-available-starting-in-novembe/

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Microsoft's just dropped details on its new Xbox Live family subscription plan. Starting in November, it will offer the Gold Family Pack, enabling up to four users to have Xbox Live Gold subscriptions, for $99.99 a year. It'll also debut the Family Center, a new menu accessible from the dashboard for customizing account settings. We've certainly wished for something like this in the past, and the pricing sounds like a pretty good deal to us -- we'll be able to afford a new cap for our avatar, afterall! Full press release is below.

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Re: Microsoft's slim Xbox
« Reply #296 on: June 23, 2010, 09:15:24 PM »
99USD/year is too much.

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« Reply #297 on: June 24, 2010, 12:03:19 AM »
Cool, so the S stands for nothing.

On the contrary, I feel the S stands for something.

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« Reply #298 on: June 24, 2010, 12:39:10 AM »
99USD/year is too much.

For four accounts??? Goddamn everybody wants everything for free.
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« Reply #299 on: June 24, 2010, 01:51:59 AM »
99USD/year is too much.

For four accounts??? Goddamn everybody wants everything for free.

This is a bit hard for me to understand. If you have 4 people playing enough to warrant having separate accounts, don't you need 4 360s? Or at least more than one? Will you be able to have one Family subscription, spread over 2-4 360s?

If I had a family that hardcore, I wouldn't balk at the price. Like you say, it's a hefty discount.
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