Nintendo 3DS revealed

[Great Rumbler]

you know i don't understand this comeback

it's like if they made an rpg and then put the ice climbers on it
ICE CLIMBERS COMEBACK!

It's like if they made an FPS and put Samus in it!

[Third]

Are you guys crazy? We need more 2D platformers.
On rail shooters are getting old and boring.

And no, I've never played an Icarus game before. And this shooter won't change that.

[magus]

you know i don't understand this comeback

it's like if they made an rpg and then put the ice climbers on it
ICE CLIMBERS COMEBACK!

It's like if they made an FPS and put Samus in it!

yes!

[Cindi Mayweather]

Are you guys crazy? We need more 2D platformers.
On rail shooters are getting old and boring.

And no, I've never played an Icarus game before. And this shooter won't change that.

We have plenty of 2d platformers lately, but rail shooters deserve a comeback

[Sho Nuff]

My boss just got us a Nintendo escort and now we are standing in the VIP line. My boss is pretty awesome. It's like Japanese executives have a secret language or something. Impressions incoming

[Cindi Mayweather]

My boss just got us a Nintendo escort and now we are standing in the VIP line. My boss is pretty awesome. It's like Japanese executives have a secret language or something. Impressions incoming

SHO NUFF YOU ARE MISSING THE BEST CONFERENCE EVER

[SantaC]

so any spec leaks yet?

[Sho Nuff]

My boss just got us a Nintendo escort and now we are standing in the VIP line. My boss is pretty awesome. It's like Japanese executives have a secret language or something. Impressions incoming

SHO NUFF YOU ARE MISSING THE BEST CONFERENCE EVER

wait what?

Will give better impressions once I'm not on an iPhone

[BlueTsunami]

PSP PWNT

[SantaC]

PSP PWNT

Not only PSP, but Wii as well.

3DS is fucking amazing.

[Diunx]

Meh, the new GOW looks better.

PSP

[Cindi Mayweather]

Meh, the new GOW looks better.

PSP

The RE shots are real time and controllable from the floor

[brawndolicious]

no word on the 3ds specs yet?  Honestly, that RE shot looks to me nearly as good as RE4 in some ways.  I guess we still need to see it in motion though.

[SantaC]

Meh, the new GOW looks better.

PSP

You realize that they have had years working on the PSP and 3DS hasnt even launched yet. Wow, that is so impressive  

[Bebpo]

so any spec leaks yet?

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DUDEBRO

This is the most biased bs image ever.

Comparing a terrible gameplay shot of gameplay Big Boss face with a blurry texture right behind it to a real-time cutscene shot on the 3DS.  Smh
And then a dulled Peace Walker gameplay shot. 




direct captures from the psp game.  The dithering is bad, but otherwise it looks real good.

And 3DS should rightfully look better since it's 6 years later after the PSP.

[SantaC]

shogmaster (sony fanboy at gaf) says that 3DS = PSP in graphics

[Bebpo]

didn't you guys read the digital foundry writeup?

It's better than a PSP, better than a Dreamcast and less than a PS2/GC.  But since it only has to output at super low resolution, the results will look close to PS2/GC and look good on the tiny screen + 3d effects.

[Kestastrophe]

Meh, the new GOW looks better.

PSP

The RE shots are real time and controllable from the floor

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no way

[Oblivion]

Holy FUCK at that MGS DS screenshot if it's real.

edit: And the RE game too. :O :O :O

[SantaC]

technically they can offer 4GB cart games right?

[Damian79]

It says 2 gigabytes max at launch.  They could have probably up to atleast 4 GB later, but i am guessing up to 8 GB.

[SantaC]

It says 2 gigabytes max at launch.  They could have probably up to atleast 4 GB later, but i am guessing up to 8 GB.

2GB is fine for that resolution anyway

[Damian79]

Even with movies i would say so.  But i think they will reach a bit of limit with 2 GB for RPG's so i am guessing 4 Gb out soon.  I think it is because of pricing.

[Eel O'Brian]

hahaha RE is not gonna look like that

you see kid icarus, and pilot wings, that's what 3DS games are gonna look like

they've already said these are moveable pieces of scenery, and that's it

they're not games

don't gamefaqs this place up, please

[Diunx]

That RE screen is as real as the first RE5 images

[Damian79]

Is MGS peace walker for "unlocked" psps?  How long do those psps last while unlocked?

[Rman]

shogmaster (sony fanboy at gaf) says that 3DS = PSP in graphics

shog is not a sony fanboy. 

[Eel O'Brian]

it's probably packing a little more than psp

[Oblivion]

don't gamefaqs this place up, please

 

[MyNameIsMethodis]

whens this coming out

[Diunx]

Is MGS peace walker for "unlocked" psps?  How long do those psps last while unlocked?

you mean hacked psps?

[Rman]

Is MGS peace walker for "unlocked" psps?  How long do those psps last while unlocked?

you mean hacked psps?

I think he's talking about 333mhz mode.

[Mr. Gundam]

You know, I just thought about it, and everything that the nthings wanted badly on the Wii is coming to the 3DS instead.

[Cindi Mayweather]

3ds has achievements, friends lists n shit

Playing games is about playing games with my friends, and I want to know what my other friends are playing online. And that's going to give me the ability, and it's also going to let me know that - sports scores, because I'm interested in sports, exchanging achievements with other players. Because when you look at DS penetration rates, there are going to be a lot of friends to talk to and communicate with.

http://e3.nintendo.com/interviews/#/?v=interview_stradling

[EmCeeGrammar]

What you guys are forgetting in tech comparisons is that the system has to render three seperate images. Two images from different angles for the 3d effect and the bottom screen visuals too.  Thats pretty damn impressive when you think about it.

Unless I'm completely ignorant on how this all works.

[Rman]

You know, I just thought about it, and everything that the nthings wanted badly on the Wii is coming to the 3DS instead.

Makes sense.  I feel that since the GBA Nintendo's focus has been on their handhelds.  Their most successful systems have been handhelds.  I just glad they're using some of that war chest and investing in decent tech.

[cool breeze]

You know, I just thought about it, and everything that the nthings wanted badly on the Wii is coming to the 3DS instead.

I know! 

I really think Nintendo should have their main system be the 3DS.  I mean, with the exception of party games, there is no reason to not have these things on the 3DS.

[Cindi Mayweather]

Have you guys read the theory that Nintendo made all this waggle crap to take on uncontested waters, they gain a huge following, so that Sony and MS would purposely try to take their "casual market share" and concentrate on casual gaming, so that Nintendo could go back to take the core gamers who are sick of Sony and MS' shit back at gaf?

Like it was one elaborate rick roll to enhance the core gamer audience for Nintendo, at the same time winning a big casual gamer following.

[Mr. Gundam]

Have you guys read the theory that Nintendo made all this waggle crap to take on uncontested waters, they gain a huge following, so that Sony and MS would purposely try to take their "casual market share" and concentrate on casual gaming, so that Nintendo could go back to take the core gamers who are sick of Sony and MS' shit back at gaf?

Like it was one elaborate rick roll to enhance the core gamer audience for Nintendo, at the same time winning a big casual gamer following.

I read that thread at GAF earlier today. Some people take this shit way too serious.

[EmCeeGrammar]

Tell us himuro
...
do YOU believe that?

[Cindi Mayweather]

No. Although I do feel Nintendo DID get MS and Sony good. They have those two absolutely CONVINCED they can break into the casual market and yet they aren't getting one thing. Casual doesn't mean shovelware, casual means something ANYONE CAN PLAY -- like Mario or Mario Kart. It's clear that MS and to a lesser degree, Sony, don't get it all, and are now fully putting all their time and energy into gimmicks while Nintendo is now shelling out the GAMES. While I don't think Nintendo made some elaborate plot, but they did push MS and Sony against a wall.

[Cormacaroni]

tech-wise, this is about as good as it's gonna get for a while with handhelds

psp2 is probably a couple years out, if it's even in the planning now

microsoft has absolutely no interest in handheld gaming

ps2 or so level of graphics is fine with me

PSP2 is mostly done, from what I hear. I'm very surprised that it wasn't announced. Apparently it will pack a lot more power than the 3DS too.

[Cindi Mayweather]

A lot more? Can Sony really do that again? Are they going to release ANOTHER 300 dollar handheld?

[BlueTsunami]

I wonder if they'll put their OLED tech in the PSP2? Gonna' make the iPhone's screen look prehistoric (hyperbole)

[Cormacaroni]

Why couldn't they do that again? I have no idea about the price but would it shock you to see it priced that high? They still haven't dropped the price of the PSP, so clearly they haven't learned that lesson.

[Cindi Mayweather]

Why couldn't they do that again? I have no idea about the price but would it shock you to see it priced that high? They still haven't dropped the price of the PSP, so clearly they haven't learned that lesson.

Because it'd be stupid. They should be trying to emulate ds as much as they can. They should follow the successes of ds and ipad/iphone so they can actually get some support. Because now that 3ds has analog nub and graphic capabilities of Kid Icarus and MGS3ds, there's very little reason to support psp even IF it's *a lot* more powerful than the 3ds. We haven't seen the psp2, but assuming it's just a reskinned psp but more powerful, there will be zero initiative to develop for the psp, especially given the new tricks the 3ds can do.

And let's figure in the lead that the 3ds will likely have over the unannounced psp2 as well. If the psp2 is 300 dollars like the original psp, it would be fuck stupid. End of story.

That doesn't mean it would be surprising though. The fact that they haven't learned their lesson is WHY it appears they want to remain second or even third place. It's not surprising, but it'd still be dumb.

[MCD]

step your price up

[Cindi Mayweather]

I don't think psp2 needs 3d. I think if they concentrate on psp's biggest draw for a lot of people -- the media features, especially with that sexy screen, something even 3ds is lacking -- and apps ala ipad/iphone, and a better dedicated digital download store ala app store, it could go very very well with people. psp has the hardware numbers but sure as fuck doesn't have the software numbers. As much as it pains me to say it, I think a big emphasis on media and apps could go very well for them.

[Cindi Mayweather]

I think go was too ahead of its time. Good idea, but not the right time and certainly not the right implementation. But putting out an ONLY digital download psp with no umd support in the middle of the psp's life cycle -- alienating a lot of potential legit software buyers -- was a fool's error.

They should offer a physical format drive as well as place an emphasis on digital download. Offer things on the psp digi download service you can't BUY on umd or anywhere else, like with ipod apps.

I think emulating apple is their best bet more so than emulating the ds, though they should keep the ds and 3ds close to heart. Because iphone/ipad are already in line with what the psp set out to do to begin with: create an portable machine that does everything. By offering apps, user content, the ability to play mp3s, the ability to watch movies, play casual (possibly get support from iphone/ipad devs) AND core games. You'd have a machine that really does EVERYTHING -- except 3d

They also need to ditch xmb for psp and include touch screen and internal hard drive: no more flash card drive, less piracy. Sony could go either way here, and it's pretty exciting because I want to know what they're going to do AND because I have a feeling I'm witnessing a trainwreck slowly happen before my very eyes.

[cool breeze]

3DS is supposed to have media features.  They're even bringing various 3D movies like How to Train your Dragon to the thing and you know kids will love that stuff.

I really think the 3DS has everything pretty much covered.  Third party support is more than solid.  The tech is capable enough to have any genre of game without it looking like butt.  The online stuff sounds a decade ahead of what the Wii is doing with friends list and achievements.  There is going to be the 3DSware at launch; that is your "app store".  Backwards compatible with DS games.   Then there is the 'comparable to DSi' battery life (~10 hours).  It even has a 3D camera that is pretty rare.  Chances are it won't be that expensive either.  Plus it's following the already mammoth DS and it's a Nintendo product.

Sony is basically stuck.  The PSP is foundering as is and just pushing more tech and producing better visuals won't really help considering that was their strategy with the PSP versus DS.  Back then the PSP was branded as a media device that can do everything, but unlike back then, Apple has that stuff down too.  Maybe they can partner with Google or something and make a proper Android gaming platform or something.  Then there are problems that come with having an even more powerful handheld like the budget required to take advantage of that hardware.   Say it is a 360 quality game--what is the incentive to release it exclusively on the PSP.

Not to sound grim, but all I'm hoping for from Sony is for them to get at a point where I can play PSP games on my PS3.  Sony needs to embrace their role of the Gamecube era Nintendo.  Hopefully that happens before they try to sell Untold Legends Party Quest that requires four PSPs and a PS3 to play.

[Cindi Mayweather]

3ds is supposed to have media features, but who the fuck wants to watch a 3d movie on a 3 inch screen?

While it has media features, media doesn't seem to be the FOCUS.

[cool breeze]

ipod touch and 3ds have the same size screen

[Cindi Mayweather]

Really?

Never fucking mind.



Game. Set. Match.

[Eel O'Brian]

tech-wise, this is about as good as it's gonna get for a while with handhelds

psp2 is probably a couple years out, if it's even in the planning now

microsoft has absolutely no interest in handheld gaming

ps2 or so level of graphics is fine with me

PSP2 is mostly done, from what I hear. I'm very surprised that it wasn't announced. Apparently it will pack a lot more power than the 3DS too.

I was not aware of that!  Sounds cool, please let your sources know i have two thumbs

[Eel O'Brian]

other than gearing up to make a concerted effort to crush google apple's not really competing with anyone, that's just some messageboard fantasy, they just want them app dollars

[Eel O'Brian]

Ehh, the PSP2 is not much of a secret at this point.

i didn't know how far along it was, is all

i have no sources

[Akala]

3DS looks pretty cool to me. will end up grabbing one. nintendo won the show.

[Eel O'Brian]

right now their strategy seems to be a jive-talkin' black kid

[Purple Filth]

Ehh, the PSP2 is not much of a secret at this point.

i didn't know how far along it was, is all

i have no sources

Sources don't really matter at this stage anyways. What's finalized hardware today could change tomorrow and no one knows what Sony's internal strategy with the device will be.

The PSP2 skipping out on an E3 showing does send a very strong message though. I'm hoping for a massive TGS showing once Sony has reorganized a proper response to the 3DS.

the 3ds reveal has made that strategy thinking harder imo.

We'll see if TGS will be the place to reveal what the are doing with the handheld market.

[Diunx]

A lot more? Can Sony really do that again? Are they going to release ANOTHER 300 dollar handheld?

The PSP have sold like 50 million units, its not on the DS level but its still pretty fucking good, I don't get all this doom and gloom talk about the PSP on the internet.