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Rman

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Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
« Reply #240 on: June 16, 2010, 11:17:28 PM »
I wonder if they'll put their OLED tech in the PSP2? Gonna' make the iPhone's screen look prehistoric :teehee (hyperbole)
The Zune HD uses an OLED screen.  It's really nice, but IPS panels, though not as nice, are pretty decent.

brawndolicious

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« Reply #241 on: June 16, 2010, 11:56:52 PM »
i can see psp2 adding phone functionality + 3d.
only way to counter back at nintendo and apple.
No that's probably too much.  It'd be too expensive and it's battery life would be horrible if it's still going to be the most powerful handheld.

Just as far as functionality goes, I guess it could work if they kept it the same size as current PSP's but with a touchscreen for the phone functions.

But why would PSP2 have to be drastically more powerful anyways?  Wouldn't it be better if the same game could be ported between it and the 3DS (assuming that it has a touchscreen)?  They could just basically make PSP2 a slightly more powerful iPhone with a couple analog nubs, a d-pad, and some face and shoulder buttons.

Bebpo

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« Reply #242 on: June 17, 2010, 12:00:15 AM »
A lot more? Can Sony really do that again? Are they going to release ANOTHER 300 dollar handheld?

Uh, if Nintendo (who are never great at graphic tech) can do DC-PS2 level tech with FANCY 3D LCD for $200-250, what makes you think PSP2 couldn't have a videocard that blows them away for $250?
I mean the ipod touch has better tech than the 3DS and is that price range plus does other stuff.

I wouldn't be surprised if Sony released a PSP2 for around the same price as 3DS that has toned down PS3/X360 graphics and great integration online like XBLA/PSN.


System would still get steamrolled by 3DS, but they can do it.
« Last Edit: June 17, 2010, 12:02:02 AM by Bebpo »

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« Reply #243 on: June 17, 2010, 01:05:52 AM »
Is MGS peace walker for "unlocked" psps?  How long do those psps last while unlocked?

you mean hacked psps?
I think he's talking about 333mhz mode.

Yeah the 333hz mode.

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« Reply #244 on: June 17, 2010, 01:12:27 AM »
In terms of graphical performance, Nintendo killed equivalent hardware from their competitors up until last gen.  Even then, the Cube was 2nd only to the Xbox and not that far behind.  Although it's been awhile, Nintendo can clearly do good graphics when that is their focus.  

Also, battery life is probably the biggest concern when it comes to increasing the performance of handhelds.  It wouldn't be surprising to see 2x or more power from the PSP2 but how is Sony going to make it run for more than 2 hrs?  Even with the PSP-GO, Sony wasn't able to solve that problem.  

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« Reply #245 on: June 17, 2010, 01:17:52 AM »
Everything I've read about the 3ds sounds great. I just wonder about the battery life and price.

Lots of gameplay possibilities. I'd like to see a non-port/non-rail flying game. omg shit flying past you as you navigate through a dog fight  :o
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« Reply #246 on: June 17, 2010, 01:23:40 AM »
Yeah, only way I can see N screwing this up is if their device costs more than Sony's.  Even if Sony answered with 3D, they'll just be seen as reactionary copycats, just like when they came up with the SixAxis at the last minute. 

Rman

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« Reply #247 on: June 17, 2010, 01:24:40 AM »
Nintendo has always been price conscious.  This thing won't be more than 250.  I expect 229 tops.

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« Reply #248 on: June 17, 2010, 01:25:25 AM »
$199, XL drops to $99.
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Rman

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« Reply #249 on: June 17, 2010, 01:29:19 AM »
In terms of graphical performance, Nintendo killed equivalent hardware from their competitors up until last gen.  Even then, the Cube was 2nd only to the Xbox and not that far behind.  Although it's been awhile, Nintendo can clearly do good graphics when that is their focus.  

Also, battery life is probably the biggest concern when it comes to increasing the performance of handhelds.  It wouldn't be surprising to see 2x or more power from the PSP2 but how is Sony going to make it run for more than 2 hrs?  Even with the PSP-GO, Sony wasn't able to solve that problem.  
Nintendo has always been cutting edge with graphics tech up until the Wii.  The N64 was hamstrung by cartridge media and lack of VRAM, which gave it that blurry vaseline look.  But they sure hyped the crap of "Project Reality" and its VR like graphics.  The final product was a mixed bag, due to the issues mentioned above.  SNES supported tons of colors at the time, though the CPU was a bit slow, and the Gamecube wasn't a slouch either at its release.

Wii and DS is when they just became disappointing.  I think everyone is still shocked at the 3DS because it seemed that Nintendo was going to go the budget route in the graphics tech department for the foreseeable future.
« Last Edit: June 17, 2010, 01:31:55 AM by Rman »

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« Reply #250 on: June 17, 2010, 01:31:23 AM »
They already said battery life would be comparable to the DSi, so around 10 hours depending on brightness.  DSi had worse battery life compared to the DS Lite but it was still good.  And Just about the PSP battery life, I believe the Go battery life is actually less than the 3000.

As for the price of the thing, I'm thinking whatever they charge, it will include a game or some software in the box.  iirc they have been including software with their systems since the DS launch.  Wii had wii sports, new wiis have WSR, DS had metroid prime first hunt, my DSi came with free points to download games, and the DSXL was supposed to come with brain age or something like that.

Rman is spot on for why the 3DS is a surprise.  Only disappointing thing I think is the screen resolution.
« Last Edit: June 17, 2010, 01:35:21 AM by Linkzg »

Smooth Groove

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« Reply #251 on: June 17, 2010, 01:40:09 AM »
In terms of graphical performance, Nintendo killed equivalent hardware from their competitors up until last gen.  Even then, the Cube was 2nd only to the Xbox and not that far behind.  Although it's been awhile, Nintendo can clearly do good graphics when that is their focus.  

Also, battery life is probably the biggest concern when it comes to increasing the performance of handhelds.  It wouldn't be surprising to see 2x or more power from the PSP2 but how is Sony going to make it run for more than 2 hrs?  Even with the PSP-GO, Sony wasn't able to solve that problem.  
Nintendo has always been cutting edge with graphics tech up until the Wii.  The N64 was hamstrung by cartridge media and lack of VRAM, which gave it that blurry vaseline look.  But they sure hyped the crap of "Project Reality" and its VR like graphics.  The final product was a mixed bag, due to the issues mentioned above.  SNES supported tons of colors at the time, though the CPU was a bit slow, and the Gamecube wasn't a slouch either at its release.

Wii and DS is when they just became disappointing.  I think everyone is still shocked at the 3DS because it seemed that Nintendo was going to go the budget route in the graphics tech department for the foreseeable future.

N64 would have been amazing for the time if not for the crap storage system and lack of ram.  Even then, Mario 64 and Waverace were pretty amazing at launch.  There were also some pretty impressive looking games when Nintendo finally released the ram pack. Rogue Squadron, with the ram pack, had almost 3DFX graphics. 

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« Reply #252 on: June 17, 2010, 01:52:20 AM »
Nintendo has always been price conscious.  This thing won't be more than 250.  I expect 229 tops.

Agreed, but it will be that price until the stars fall from the sky.
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« Reply #253 on: June 17, 2010, 03:17:14 AM »
Also, battery life is probably the biggest concern when it comes to increasing the performance of handhelds.  It wouldn't be surprising to see 2x or more power from the PSP2 but how is Sony going to make it run for more than 2 hrs?  Even with the PSP-GO, Sony wasn't able to solve that problem.  

I know you're exaggerating a bit, but PSP is pretty good now in battery length.  I get 6 hours on my psp doing gaming these days, max brightness, 75%+ sound.  It helps that all the latest games install on the memory stick and run off that to save battery life.

My dslite gets about 2 hours per charge these days :\  Non-replaceable batteries FTMFL

Himu

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« Reply #254 on: June 17, 2010, 03:32:27 AM »
nintendo has said the battery life will be on par with ds xl
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Himu

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« Reply #255 on: June 17, 2010, 03:37:58 AM »
A lot more? Can Sony really do that again? Are they going to release ANOTHER 300 dollar handheld?

Uh, if Nintendo (who are never great at graphic tech)

is your memory really that short term? :lol
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« Reply #256 on: June 17, 2010, 05:00:59 AM »
Sup dudebros

OK so here are my impressions, like they are worth anything

-Hardware FEELS like a DS. I checked the back of the unit and there's a DS card slot. Also an SD card slot on the left. Earphone jack dead center of the unit, not recessed.

-Viewing angle is very limited. You've got to have it lined up with your nose and from maybe a foot to two feet away/arm's length. If you wiggle it while pressing buttons frantically the 3D effect might disappear. There appeared to be a little bit of ghosting (seeing the left image on the right eye) but nothing too distracting.

-The 3D effect is very solid. I knew they were doing the every-other-line refracting technique but it is much better than the cell phones it was in before. There's no weird vertical lines that appear like the Sharp cell phone, it looks like a 400x240 display that is magically in 3D. I talked to some dudes who said it was better than PSP but not as good as PSP2.

-I set the 3D effect slider to max. However, this made my boss want to throw up so he had to basically put it into 2D mode each time. :lol

-Overall graphics are probably PSP level. There's texture filtering now but no FSAA so edges are very pronounced. To be honest it shouldn't be hard to make nice looking graphics on a 400x240 perceived display (actually 800x240) in this day and age. The best looking stuff were noninteractive so I am sure they were throwing all the polys and textures into the characters, and that's not representative of what actual running games will be like.

OK here are some game impressions

-3D Challenge. It's like the eye doctor's office where you wear the dorky 3D glasses and they test your depth perception. Cool presentation style though.

-Nintendogs and Cats. You couldn't play with the cats so I got pissed off. This is beyond cute and makes me want to vomit. I said "Oh man, this is better than real puppies, with these if you don't feed them you don't have to bury them in the back yard" and the girl doing the demo looked at me in a really weird way.

-Resident EVil. Holy fucking shit this looks good. Like they downrezzed the PS3/360 models to the 3DS. Then again, there was nothing else on screen except for the characters.

-Metal Gear: The Naked Mans. Or whatever. This was awesome, polygon-heavy noninteractive scenes with snakes jumping out at you. Cool camera moves through a jungle. Analog pad wasn't bad.

-Dynasty Warriors: Ugh this was awful, barely a step above the DS ones. But it was playable.

-Kingdom Hearts: Nonplayable, but demo of some guy jumping around the island from the original Kingdom Hearts game. Looked on par with the PS2 one.

-3D Camera: THIS IS AWESOME. Live 3D preview and awesome looking 3D pics. I was like "Can I take movies too so I can dress up as a Na'vi and make my own Avatar pr0n" and the Nintendo guy was like "uuuuuuuuhhhhhhh"

-Sims: Some lame character creation mode, whatever

-Mario Kart: Nonplayable, just some footage of it running. Running code, not a movie. Looked okay.

-Kid Icarus: What you saw at the conference but in 3D, duh

-RIIIIIIIIIDGE RACERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR. Halfway between Ridge DS and PSP.

All in all it was cool. I got fasttracked into the VIP line because my boss knows someone and it was worth the 30-minute wait but probably not 5 hours. I would probably buy one for $150 if there was good shit at launch.

Damian79

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« Reply #257 on: June 17, 2010, 05:36:55 AM »
That is like saying the GBA to GBA SP was a whole new system because of what it looks like physically.

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« Reply #258 on: June 17, 2010, 05:53:29 AM »
Borys, the only thing that's similar between the 3DS and the old DS is the clamshell design and some of the button placement.  The screen, processors, cameras, etc are all fucking different/improved.

Himu

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« Reply #259 on: June 17, 2010, 06:04:09 AM »
Told you all this is not a "new" Nintendo handheld but more like next iteration of DS after DSi and DS XL. They upped the ARM CPU in that bitch probably but left all else the same.

Still the 3D effect will probably make this handheld. Sales will be humongous.

I'm going to post videos to display why this is a stupid post and factually incorrect statement.

[youtube=560,345]29sF6tfWf2s[/youtube]

And here's an actual ds game:

[youtube=560,345]TvF0p0x_0VI[/youtube]

People who say what Borys said have never played a ds. This is a totally new system.
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SantaC

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« Reply #260 on: June 17, 2010, 06:09:19 AM »
Told you all this is not a "new" Nintendo handheld but more like next iteration of DS after DSi and DS XL. They upped the ARM CPU in that bitch probably but left all else the same.

Still the 3D effect will probably make this handheld. Sales will be humongous.

whats new:

-analog slider
-wireless standard N with WPA2 (makes for much better wireless speed and security)
-bigger screens and higher res
-3D effect
-better audio
-graphics improvement is obvious (unknown how much)
-able to play 3D movies
-better camera with 3D pictures


it is more than just another DS iteration.

Himu

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« Reply #261 on: June 17, 2010, 06:10:44 AM »
I just realized the DS screens are 256x192. Wow that's so low res. It's not true that Nintendo basically took the same touchscreen for 3DS; it's a new screen, 320x240. Not super impressive but obviously a step-up.

So Nintendo DS is

256x192
256x192

Nintendo 3DS is

400x240 (3D)
320x240

Isn't the bottom screen the same size as ds xl screen?
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SantaC

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« Reply #262 on: June 17, 2010, 06:26:38 AM »
Well they skimped on Wii and DS. With all the money they made on those two products they could easily add a fucking gold bar for free to each 3DS sold.

what they could actually do is to set a reasonable price.

SantaC

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« Reply #263 on: June 17, 2010, 06:35:53 AM »
199 please

Raban

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« Reply #264 on: June 17, 2010, 07:20:57 AM »
I just love how sure the both of you are. What if it's $150? Or worse, $300? :lol

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« Reply #265 on: June 17, 2010, 07:30:37 AM »
How the hell are they going to let you install games?  I guess they want to remove that incentive for piracy, but there's gotta be some safeguards to stop people from selling them the second they get installed.

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« Reply #266 on: June 17, 2010, 07:35:00 AM »
I say $299,just for fun.



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« Reply #267 on: June 17, 2010, 07:47:05 AM »
No way Nintendo would charge more than 200 for a handheld, especially to the successor of their biggest platform. Nintendo has always had a 150-200 price range model philosophy. Wii was 250 only because it was new tech, motion controls and shit, and included free software.
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Raban

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« Reply #268 on: June 17, 2010, 07:49:47 AM »
Anything higher than $200 is bad it seems, but anything less than $199 is a fucking MEGATON. I'll suicide if it's higher than $200

If 3DS is $149... that would be fucking ridiculous. But yeah can't imagine that. Would be kind of dumb too, 3DS will sell 10 million within weeks at $199

It would sell 10 million in a weekend at $150, I bet.

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« Reply #269 on: June 17, 2010, 07:54:23 AM »
Eh, 3D imo is always shit no matter where it is. It's gimmicky, ineffective and actually prevents me from feeling immersed in a film, because the effect is severely distracting.

If I ever get a 3DS, the switch will be firmly planted in the off position at all times.

maxy

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« Reply #270 on: June 17, 2010, 07:56:09 AM »
Nintendo has been slowly pushing DS price towards $200.

If i had to bet,I would say $249...Wii launch price


But now something else,home console 3D related...

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EA has revealed that its 3D games on major home consoles may get a premium pricetag in future.

The publisher revealed this week that its own Crysis 2 - released on the EA Partners label - will be playable in full 3D later this year.

Speaking at an E3 executives breakfast event this morning, EA CEO John Riccitiello said:

"3D may well be one of the next and most important drivers for growth. [That's] yet to be seen and I don't think it's a 2010 story in any way, shape or form... in a meaningful way.

"But as we move through 2011, 2012, its likely to be an opportunity both for additional growth and perhaps premium pricing for titles that better support 3D."

Will Nintendo try to hike the price?
« Last Edit: June 17, 2010, 07:57:45 AM by maxy »
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« Reply #271 on: June 17, 2010, 08:16:17 AM »
One more thing,DS launch price was low because they where not sure will it work or not.

In 2005 there was a period when DS was selling so bad that Nintendo didn't allow NPD to release standalone data,only bundled with GBA :lol

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« Reply #272 on: June 17, 2010, 08:22:52 AM »
The DS sold like shit from the time that the PSP launched until Nintendo Dogs came out.  We're talking like sub 50k/month.

maxy

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« Reply #273 on: June 17, 2010, 08:23:45 AM »
I don't think DS was ever selling poorly

Oh it was,DS Lite catapulted it along with some games
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SantaC

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« Reply #274 on: June 17, 2010, 08:33:04 AM »
ds fat sold bad, than the ds lite came out and the rest is history

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« Reply #275 on: June 17, 2010, 08:33:50 AM »
Nintendo has been slowly pushing DS price towards $200.

If i had to bet,I would say $249...Wii launch price


But now something else,home console 3D related...

Quote
EA has revealed that its 3D games on major home consoles may get a premium pricetag in future.

The publisher revealed this week that its own Crysis 2 - released on the EA Partners label - will be playable in full 3D later this year.

Speaking at an E3 executives breakfast event this morning, EA CEO John Riccitiello said:

"3D may well be one of the next and most important drivers for growth. [That's] yet to be seen and I don't think it's a 2010 story in any way, shape or form... in a meaningful way.

"But as we move through 2011, 2012, its likely to be an opportunity both for additional growth and perhaps premium pricing for titles that better support 3D."

Will Nintendo try to hike the price?

i'm just gonna go ahead and say for the record that i'm not paying any extra for  console games with 3D support that i can't or won't even use

it's one thing to charge extra for special editions with features or content everyone can use, but to charge extra for 3D support the majority of people can't even use is a bit of extortion
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« Reply #276 on: June 17, 2010, 08:53:16 AM »
I highly doubt it's gonna be above $200... I'd bet $180 if anything.
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« Reply #277 on: June 17, 2010, 09:37:17 AM »

My dslite gets about 2 hours per charge these days :\  Non-replaceable batteries FTMFL

They're totally replaceable. You can grab them from Amazon, or direct from Nintendo themselves.

http://store.nintendo.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?productId=108205&currency=USD&catalogId=10001&tranId=0&lastAction=setCurr&storeId=10001&languageId=-1&categoryId=62209&ddkey=http:SetCurrencyPreference
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« Reply #278 on: June 17, 2010, 09:38:37 AM »
It is impossible for the 3DS to be over $200. It would be an incredibly sharp contrast to their entire portable pricing structure for the past 20+ years.

Launch Prices in the US:
Game Boy - $89.95
Game Boy Pocket - $89.95
Game Boy Color - $79.99
Game Boy Advance - $89.95
Game Boy Advance SP - $99.99
Game Boy Micro - $99.99
Nintendo DS - $149.99
Nintendo DS Lite - $129.99
Nintendo DSi - $179.99
Nintendo DSi XL - $189.99

i see prices getting higher and higher on that list :smug
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« Reply #279 on: June 17, 2010, 10:39:23 AM »
Like I said.  $199.  XL drops to $129, DSi to $99.  Don't know if they'll even keep the Lite.
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« Reply #280 on: June 17, 2010, 12:39:29 PM »
http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2010/06/17/3ds_software_install/

they're talking about the ability to install multiple games on the 3DS so you don't need to swap between game carts

this is getting ridiculous now

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« Reply #281 on: June 17, 2010, 01:31:46 PM »
:bow handheld of the forever :bow2

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« Reply #282 on: June 17, 2010, 01:56:17 PM »
http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2010/06/17/3ds_software_install/

they're talking about the ability to install multiple games on the 3DS so you don't need to swap between game carts

this is getting ridiculous now


jesus fucking christ.  Nintendo's pissed.  It's like they're addressing every single criticism from the past 4 years into the 3DS :lol 

I'm just gonna stop reading about the 3DS until the details and specs are 100% true...getting too hyped.  For one thing, there's gotta be a catch to installing multiple games without the need to switch carts. 

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« Reply #283 on: June 17, 2010, 02:40:58 PM »
:bow handheld of the forever :bow2

:bow It already looks better than the overrated ds :bow2
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« Reply #284 on: June 17, 2010, 02:43:04 PM »
:bow handheld of the forever :bow2

:bow It already looks better than the overrated ds :bow2

:bow THREE SMT games (even though two of them will probably be ports) :bow2

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« Reply #285 on: June 17, 2010, 02:44:12 PM »
:bow handheld of the forever :bow2

:bow It already looks better than the overrated ds :bow2

:bow THREE SMT games (even though two of them will probably be ports) :bow2
:bow I've never played any besides Strange Journey which I have to get back to :bow2

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« Reply #286 on: June 17, 2010, 02:45:14 PM »
This appears to be the best Nintendo product in 20 years.

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« Reply #287 on: June 17, 2010, 02:46:51 PM »
This appears to be the best Nintendo product in 20 years.
:bow SNES :bow2

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« Reply #288 on: June 17, 2010, 02:47:37 PM »
I just hope that it's true when people say the current design is still a work in progress. I really don't like the way it looks currently.

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« Reply #289 on: June 17, 2010, 02:51:32 PM »
Wut, no. DSi XL is fucking huge, 4.2 inch. Original DS bottom screen is 3 inches. Nintendo 3DS bottom screen is 3.02 inches.


whats new:

-analog slider
-wireless standard N with WPA2 (makes for much better wireless speed and security)
-bigger screens and higher res
-3D effect
-better audio
-graphics improvement is obvious (unknown how much)
-able to play 3D movies
-better camera with 3D pictures

Plus it has a gyro, for rotation, AND motion sensing, which does movement. It basically has Wii MotionPlus built-in.

According to Nikkei, you can install games on it too. Not confirmed yet but Nikkei is reliable.

3DS is fucking packed with features, jesus. Crazy shit.

In one of the Nitendogs previews they mentioned the front camera can recognize the users, and if you push your face towards the screen the puppy will react by licking your face - so it sees to have some sub-natal abilites. (maybe DSi could do this too, but now it's standardized)
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« Reply #290 on: June 17, 2010, 03:02:14 PM »
You've never even seen the 3D screen you fool. It doesn't work like anything you've seen

Oh for fucks sake Ruzghey, neither have you
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« Reply #291 on: June 17, 2010, 03:08:51 PM »
don't confuse him with common sense
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« Reply #292 on: June 17, 2010, 03:11:26 PM »
I really want to see one of these in action.  Looks pretty slick right now though.
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« Reply #293 on: June 17, 2010, 03:34:12 PM »
i always believed in competition but this time i don't feel like we need another psp for that.

one handheld future...

That's kinda how I feel.  I can't see Sony offering anything that a 3DS owner would want or need.  In 6 yrs, Sony hasn't really shown that they know how portable gaming should be done.  I won't miss Sony's 1st party portable games so I'd rather that 3rd parties just devote their efforts to one platform.   

3DS is definitely the first Nintendo product in a long time that feels like a winner even before it's released.  Let's hope it's not another N64.

Also, battery life is probably the biggest concern when it comes to increasing the performance of handhelds.  It wouldn't be surprising to see 2x or more power from the PSP2 but how is Sony going to make it run for more than 2 hrs?  Even with the PSP-GO, Sony wasn't able to solve that problem. 

I know you're exaggerating a bit, but PSP is pretty good now in battery length.  I get 6 hours on my psp doing gaming these days, max brightness, 75%+ sound.  It helps that all the latest games install on the memory stick and run off that to save battery life.

My dslite gets about 2 hours per charge these days :\  Non-replaceable batteries FTMFL

Are you using an extra capacity battery?  I'm pretty sure I don't get that kinda battery life on my PSP when using max brightness. 

Also, I was talking about the PSP-GO.  I remember Dcharlie or someone saying that the GO's battery only lasts about 3 hrs, which is an issue that can't be resolved by swapping batteries. 

Like you said, non-replaceable batteries FTMFL.

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Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
« Reply #294 on: June 18, 2010, 01:58:16 PM »
http://kotaku.com/5566671/nintendo-testing-healthiness-of-3ds-advising-young-children-to-avoid-3d

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"We will recommend that very young children not look at 3D images," he said. "That's because, [in] young children, the muscles for the eyes are not fully formed... This is the same messaging that the industry is putting out with 3D movies, so it is a standard protocol.


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Fils-Aime also talked to Kotaku about other elements of the 3DS. He confirmed that the system will be out before the end of March 2011. The 3DS form factor that was shown at E3 should not be considered final, he said, though the company plans to manufacture the extendable stylus shown with the 3DS. He said the company was still determining whether games for the machine would be region-locked, so as to only play, like most console games, in systems sold in certain regions of the world. He noted that downloadable games for the DSi were the first games for Nintendo's DS line to be region-locked.

Child issue is interesting because i'm not sure how parents will be able to stop kids to play it in 3D...unless they will be constantly supervised

Maybe it will have some lock? 
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Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
« Reply #295 on: June 18, 2010, 02:58:33 PM »
Region locking is about as anti-consumer as it gets. I wish it would die already.

:bow Sony for kinda getting it right.
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Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
« Reply #296 on: June 18, 2010, 03:41:05 PM »
I'm sure it will be region locked like the DSi

Will buy day 1 and buy flashcart day 1

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Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
« Reply #297 on: June 18, 2010, 04:02:06 PM »
I'm sure it will be region locked like the DSi

Will buy day 1 and buy flashcart day 1

If it's region-locked like the DSi, then it just means shitty downloadable games will be locked.  I just want the retail software to be region-free. 
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Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
« Reply #298 on: June 18, 2010, 04:04:54 PM »
errr, lyte you do know that there are region-locked DSi retail games, right?

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Re: Nintendo 3DS revealed
« Reply #299 on: June 18, 2010, 04:15:32 PM »
errr, lyte you do know that there are region-locked DSi retail games, right?

There are?  Must be a very small amount.
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