PlayStation Move is out

[MyNameIsMethodis]

Microsoft buying exlcusives? whoda thunk it 

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Microsoft buying exlcusives? whoda thunk it 

Sony probably would buy some exclusives but they are drowning in red ink over the abortion that is the PS3.

[maxy]

Every move game is a bought exclusive.

We shall see in September NPD if move had any affect on PS3 sales...
In UK sports shit debuted at No.2 but that doesn't tell us much since No.3 sold about 10k and No1. about 430k

There was no effect on hardware,it looks like it was bought by people that already own PS3 and a camera.

[maxy]

well well it looks like i was right,calibration calibration

After playing for a few hours with various members of my family, there are a few big fucking problems. One, for the EyeToy to properly recognize things, you really do need the advertised 8-to-10 feet. Otherwise it frequently fails to recognize what it should. That's a huge fucking load of floor real estate and I could not find a single room in my house to accommodate such a space, even when moving couches and beds back (I tried the PS3 in my bedroom and the family room).

And two, we were trying to get our four year old niece to play, and she really wanted to, but it took like forty tries to get her calibrated and even when it was it registered only about half of her moves. Which is really ridiculous for a family oriented device.

This is all back to my rant back a year about the wiimote... about how even though these controllers are supposed to be about immersion, the 'merging' of controller and player, more frequently than not, these controllers DEMAND the players attention, constantly taking one out of the fun. It's an immersion-killer, really. There's so many hindrances to the proper precision and accuracy of these things that it's hard ever to get the ideal settings for everybody, and that's simply not cool. Until we get to that point, motion controllers will always play second fiddle to superior methods of control.

And a final niggle: the EyeToy's resolution is abominable and they really shouldn't have cheaped out with that shit. Shoulda upgraded for this new wave of titles.

Anyway, that's about it.

Amir0x destroying move fanatics,he even posted some videos


http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=407226&page=70

His niece must be a hardcore xbot obviously.
Move would probably self-destruct if it saw me,lol


He is not the only one

Getting even more frustrated with this now. It's pretty useless in my front room in the day now. Gets too confused with bright sunlight as it is now too bright and either cannot see the orb or worse still it locks on to other areas if bright light. It tracked one of the toys in eyepet to my daughters head because of a shard of light was on their face. :. Also everytime the light changed outside the cameras picture changed colour balance. So I now have something I can probably only use for a small window of time and on non sunny days, brilliant. Did they actually test this in a real environment.

[MyNameIsMethodis]

well when each member of your family requires a king size bed to fit one, of corse your going to have problems with "floor real estate"

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

That is because the Move isn't meant for filthy poors and fatasses who can't find the necessary space.  Move is for ballers who have huge houses and fuck dimes on the regular...

[Hitler Stole My Potato]

well when each member of your family requires a king size bed to fit one, of corse your going to have problems with "floor real estate"

I gotta admit.  That made me laugh.

[Sho Nuff]

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Here's Amirox's video

[Hitler Stole My Potato]

Looks fun.  So I get to spend over a $100, fuck around all day with callibrations, AND play Heavy Rain again?

Dream come true.   

[MyNameIsMethodis]

I can tell you his fucking problem right there. He has the camera ontop of the TV. He could put it on the bottom and be able to calibrate it perfectly.

[Sho Nuff]

You should go to his house and help him

[MyNameIsMethodis]

go suck on his fat lards you piece of hyper shit

[MyNameIsMethodis]

FUCK i made a pact to not get banned anymore, i apologize green journalist I mean particlerealty.

[originalz]

Well, with all of these space requirements, I guess we won't have to worry about Japanese devs dedicating too much time to these devices since a lot of Japanese homes don't have rooms big enough to accommodate Move or Kinect.

[cool breeze]

It mostly works fine at around 6 feet for me, but I do feel like they expect me to go back further.  In table tennis I'm right at the table and in most videos you see the paddle a bit further back.  Maybe that can go away with tricking the calibration or whatnot.  That's only for sports champions and games that make you do full body motions.  Most of them can work as close as 3 or 4 feet sitting down like you would play the Wii.  I'm sure Kinect will be similar and the 8-10 feet requirement is because it needs to get an image of your full body.  At least with move, if you're too close for the sports champions games, the controller gets out of the camera's view if you extend your arm.  That's more of a problem with how cameras work than the tech, though, you can argue that having a camera be so important to the tech is a bad idea to begin with.

And the camera resolution is VGA 60fps, 320x240 120fps.  In good lighting conditions it is fine, but it has to calibrate to pick up the ball, which ends up making the imagine worse.  IIRC Kinect's image camera is even worse with VGA at 30fps.  It two more (?) sensors that make it better for games, but like the PS3 camera, the pictures it will take will probably be bad. 

[pilonv1]

: Eye Toy on PS2 had issues with light in 2004. Still a problem

[chronovore]

the fact is this is selling like hot cakes and xbots are so scared because sony is profitable and put out a great device.

Just Dance's success is one of the few things that make me think Kinect is going to sell. I wouldn't be surprised if Dance Central was the number one selling game this holiday season.... well, after Black Ops.

While I don't want it or Dance Central the Kinnect is looking like a smarter idea from a consumer perspective. Very simple "games". Not a lot of equipment and controllers. And I agree. Dance Central is the closest thing on either the move or Kinnect that looks like it has some mainstream appeal. If Microsoft was smart they would market the hell out of that title.

Why? It's been done already on the PS2 called EyeToy:Dance.

go suck on his fat lards you piece of hyper shit

Great googly moogly, I just now took you off Ignore when you make one decent post over in the K-pop thread (it was off topic, but still...), and the very next thread I enter you seem to be making a concerted effort to shit it up.

Welcome back to PLONKville.

[cool breeze]

: Eye Toy on PS2 had issues with light in 2004. Still a problem

They each have their solutions.  Sony's part of the reason the ball glows is so it could be tracked in the dark.  The PS3 Camera is capable of doing some of what Kinect does under good lighting conditions.  Kinect's other camera/sensors are able to pick up your body in the dark (unless they downgraded it like everything else), so it isn't a problem there.  That is unless the game requires you to see an image of yourself.  There are a couple of those already for the move (eyetoy games, basically) but the only real time Kinect uses your image in games is randomly taking pictures of you jumping around.

[Bloodwake]

There's not even enough space in the GameStop I work at for Move to work correctly. Not only that, zero small children have been able to use it. Mainly because they don't understand the calibration. The ones who did understand the calibration weren't tall enough.

What a fucking mess. I actually had high (well, not really high. I would say raised) hopes that the Move was going to actually bring motion controls into actual games. Lol.

Kinect isn't going to be any better. Looks like everyone is going to be laying a goose egg this holiday on stupid, malfunctioning, expensive peripherals.

[MyNameIsMethodis]

I have about 4 feet betwee my eye and my move and it works perfectly. stop failing hard. move is amazing and is selling great.

[chronovore]

Didn't Lady GaGa promote Move at E3 this year? They should do a special edition Gaga Move dildo and watch them fly off the shelves.

[TripleA]

There's not even enough space in the GameStop I work at for Move to work correctly. Not only that, zero small children have been able to use it. Mainly because they don't understand the calibration. The ones who did understand the calibration weren't tall enough.

What a fucking mess. I actually had high (well, not really high. I would say raised) hopes that the Move was going to actually bring motion controls into actual games. Lol.

Kinect isn't going to be any better. Looks like everyone is going to be laying a goose egg this holiday on stupid, malfunctioning, expensive peripherals.

You're delusional if you think Kinect won't be humongous this holiday season.

[TripleA]

Didn't Lady GaGa promote Move at E3 this year? They should do a special edition Gaga Move dildo and watch them fly off the shelves.

[Eel O'Brian]

they'll both sell okay/well, but i'm guessing on a lot of store returns post-christmas

"this don't work right, it don't do what it's supposed to"

"i think it's broken, there's like a second or so delay when i move"

[TripleA]

they'll both sell okay/well, but i'm guessing on a lot of store returns post-christmas

"this don't work right, it don't do what it's supposed to"

"i think it's broken, there's like a second or so delay when i move"

I predict Kinect sales will take a significant nosedive in April-May 2011.

[Eel O'Brian]

word of mouth will kill them both, but it will be a lingering death full of ping pong games and cartoon mascot bowling

wii could get away with a little jankiness because it was so new at the time, but everyone's over the initial "WOW" when it comes to motion controls and now they just want their shit to work

[TripleA]

Agreed.