Author Topic: No more sales figures (Read 22312 times)

maxy · « **Reply #60 on:** October 12, 2010, 07:05:57 PM »

Quote from: iconoclast on October 12, 2010, 06:30:09 PM

Now I'll never know how badly Kinect will tank. :'(

Oh well. At least this will stifle most of the sales talk when it comes to discussing the actual games.

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High street games retailer GAME has sold out of its initial allotment of Kinect units, weeks before Microsoft's new system has even launched.

A message on its website reads "We've hit our limit for launch but you can still pre-order for a priority place in the queue. As soon as we have more stock in, we will make sure we get your order to you."

Amazon has stopped taking pre-orders, but it is still available at HMV.co.uk and Play, although the latter comes with a caveat that any orders may not ship on launch day.

Last month, Microsoft's Aaron Greenberg predicted that Kinect would sell more than three million units before the end of 2010. Looks like it's well on its way.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-10-12-kinect-sold-out-at-game

Besides NPD never publicly released numbers for accessories,no loss there.

Top dog will always post their numbers and top 20 will emerge from somewhere as usual...

demi · « **Reply #61 on:** October 12, 2010, 07:17:36 PM »

its cool guys. i got this covered. just paypal me $10 a pop and i'll give you access to the new NPD forum on here.

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #62 on:** October 12, 2010, 07:22:47 PM »

I am seriously baffled how Kinect at $150 a pop could sell 3m units. Obviously MS knows something I don't

Purple Filth · « **Reply #63 on:** October 12, 2010, 07:40:44 PM »

NPD figures costs 10k per month? damn

naff · « **Reply #64 on:** October 12, 2010, 07:41:57 PM »

Quote from: Mr. Gundam on October 12, 2010, 02:48:33 PM

They banned the poor bastard. Someone invite him to EB.

gaf mods

chronovore · « **Reply #65 on:** October 12, 2010, 08:02:45 PM »

Quote from: Sho Nuff on October 12, 2010, 07:22:47 PM

I am seriously baffled how Kinect at $150 a pop could sell 3m units. Obviously MS knows something I don't

Theirs is a curiously feathered bird, called "Hope" despite its flightlessness.

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #66 on:** October 12, 2010, 08:34:25 PM »

This is just only going to create more bullshit for two reasons:

1) Instead of the figures, you'll have dingbats and nimrods discuss what Move sales are when Sony declares that it had a "15% increase in sales in Move over the past month." Of course, fantards will use the most optimistic number possible and treat it as standard. So expect about 30-40 million Moves to be sold in the US alone by the end of next year. It is the Walscuse of the old GAF days.

2) The usual sales bullshit will never go away but every fantard is going to shriek at the other side's projected (read: bullshit) numbers. This will mean anecdotal evidence will become standard:

"Kinect sold 150,000 last month? Shiiiiiiiiit son. Move sold like 500,000. There's this chick with big tits that was buying the Move and that is how I know it sold well - it is in the mainstream. By the way, that chick had a busted face so I didn't spit game at her. I only fuck dimes y0."

TripleA · « **Reply #67 on:** October 12, 2010, 08:38:34 PM »

Quote from: Sho Nuff on October 12, 2010, 07:22:47 PM

I am seriously baffled how Kinect at $150 a pop could sell 3m units. Obviously MS knows something I don't

It's actually quite easy to sell a flawed product during the christmas season. Especially when you're investing hundreds of millions of dollars into marketing and advertising the said product.

The real test for Natal is how it performs after the christmas hype. Will people still feel compelled to make themselves look like morons in 2011? Only time will tell.

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #68 on:** October 12, 2010, 08:40:51 PM »

Quote from: TripleA on October 12, 2010, 08:38:34 PM

Quote from: Sho Nuff on October 12, 2010, 07:22:47 PM
I am seriously baffled how Kinect at $150 a pop could sell 3m units. Obviously MS knows something I don't
Will people still feel compelled to make themselves look like morons in 2011? Only time will tell.

Do you intend to keep posting in 2011? I think that will give you your answer.

TripleA · « **Reply #69 on:** October 12, 2010, 08:42:51 PM »

Quote from: Green Man on October 12, 2010, 05:54:47 PM

Isn't Gaborn the dude that went into threads to shill for a thread he started?

No, Gaborn is the off-topic douchefag.

TripleA · « **Reply #70 on:** October 12, 2010, 08:43:35 PM »

Quote from: The Experiment on October 12, 2010, 08:40:51 PM

Quote from: TripleA on October 12, 2010, 08:38:34 PM
Quote from: Sho Nuff on October 12, 2010, 07:22:47 PM
I am seriously baffled how Kinect at $150 a pop could sell 3m units. Obviously MS knows something I don't
Will people still feel compelled to make themselves look like morons in 2011? Only time will tell.

Do you intend to keep posting in 2011? I think that will give you your answer.

Your distinguished mentally-challenged father raised you, I knew it.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #71 on:** October 12, 2010, 08:47:07 PM »

Quote from: The Experiment on October 12, 2010, 08:40:51 PM

Quote from: TripleA on October 12, 2010, 08:38:34 PM
Quote from: Sho Nuff on October 12, 2010, 07:22:47 PM
I am seriously baffled how Kinect at $150 a pop could sell 3m units. Obviously MS knows something I don't
Will people still feel compelled to make themselves look like morons in 2011? Only time will tell.

Do you intend to keep posting in 2011? I think that will give you your answer.

DJ_Tet · « **Reply #72 on:** October 12, 2010, 09:12:45 PM »

Fantastic thread so far.

Within 10 posts 'vicissitudes' not only claims that he values NPD numbers more than actually playing games on XBox Live....

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Still cheaper than Xbox Live.

To advocating starting a subforum to illegally share NPD data....ON GAF!

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The idea is 200 people pool $50 a year and one person out of those subscribes at $10,000 a year, then shares the numbers privately with the other 200 without NPD knowing about it. How is this in any way ridiculous or unfeasible?

The fact that the possible loss of sales data is inspiring this meltdown is just hilarious. Fucking sales geeks, I'll never understand them.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #73 on:** October 12, 2010, 09:14:46 PM »

That sounds totally feasible. Someone let them know that I'd be happy to subscribe for them.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #74 on:** October 12, 2010, 09:30:30 PM »

Quote from: Some Dumbass

I foresee this as hurting gaming long term. NeoGAF console wars threads led to marketshare/mindshare shifts. No buzz = no interest = lower overall gaming sales. IMO, of course.

Keep telling yourself that your posts on a message board matter.

The percentage of people who play videogames that actually care about sales numbers has to be something like .00003%

Diunx · « **Reply #75 on:** October 12, 2010, 09:32:51 PM »

I hope they go ahead and do it, and then when the money get stoled they call for the guy to be PERMABANNED! and his name BANNED too!

Hitler Stole My Potato · « **Reply #76 on:** October 12, 2010, 09:57:18 PM »

Quote from: Mr. Gundam on October 12, 2010, 09:30:30 PM

Quote from: Some Dumbass
I foresee this as hurting gaming long term. NeoGAF console wars threads led to marketshare/mindshare shifts. No buzz = no interest = lower overall gaming sales. IMO, of course.

Keep telling yourself that your posts on a message board matter.

The percentage of people who play videogames that actually care about sales numbers has to be something like .00003%

Exactly. Hell just videogame forum hype alone doesn't amount to much of anything. If it did then ICO would've sold over 10 million by now. These people are delusional as far as how influential they think they are.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #77 on:** October 12, 2010, 10:04:50 PM »

hey, harry knowles had a few dumbass hollywood types fooled by his alleged influence for a while, anything's possible

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Bocsius · « **Reply #78 on:** October 12, 2010, 11:09:34 PM »

This is all kinds of dumb.

Oh well. I have it on good authority that PS3 sold 2x 360 in September, anyway. Seems like 360 is on the downward trend now, fellas. Yep, wrap 'er up, she's a goner.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #79 on:** October 13, 2010, 12:14:07 AM »

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The idea is 200 people pool $50 a year and one person out of those subscribes at $10,000 a year, then shares the numbers privately with the other 200 without NPD knowing about it. How is this in any way ridiculous or unfeasible?

Except for the NPD employees who read the forum. And the fact that everyone would source them to GAF. Morans

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #80 on:** October 13, 2010, 12:46:22 AM »

I should offer to take everyone's money and buy a subscription, then give out fake numbers that suit my agenda.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #81 on:** October 13, 2010, 12:48:14 AM »

Segata is back

but not for long :'(

Beezy · « **Reply #82 on:** October 13, 2010, 12:51:19 AM »

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on October 13, 2010, 12:44:59 AM

oh no diunx and beezy take issue with my opinion on this

however shall i cope with two fucking loser internet personas losing respect for my fucking loser internet persona

the counseling will cost a small fortune i'm sure

It's okay guys, I learned how to live with people who prefer comfortable ignorance over actual facts. I'll just place beezy and diunx in this little box with Andrex, the train station Mormons, flat-earthers, 9-11 conspiracy theorists, creationists, and Uwe Boll. There we go. Everything in its proper place.

Wow, you really were mad. If you think I really care about this whole situation then you must not post here enough. Calm the fuck down.

Beezy · « **Reply #83 on:** October 13, 2010, 12:56:37 AM »

Nah, I'm good. Sorry for you loss.

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Beezy · « **Reply #84 on:** October 13, 2010, 01:01:15 AM »

*takes ball home*

demi · « **Reply #85 on:** October 13, 2010, 01:11:27 AM »

It's no fun when you try to force it

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #86 on:** October 13, 2010, 01:19:00 AM »

Quote from: Hitler Stole My Potato on October 12, 2010, 09:57:18 PM

Quote from: Mr. Gundam on October 12, 2010, 09:30:30 PM
Quote from: Some Dumbass
I foresee this as hurting gaming long term. NeoGAF console wars threads led to marketshare/mindshare shifts. No buzz = no interest = lower overall gaming sales. IMO, of course.

Keep telling yourself that your posts on a message board matter.

The percentage of people who play videogames that actually care about sales numbers has to be something like .00003%

Exactly. Hell just videogame forum hype alone doesn't amount to much of anything. If it did then ICO would've sold over 10 million by now. These people are delusional as far as how influential they think they are.

BAM, nailed it

demi · « **Reply #87 on:** October 13, 2010, 01:23:30 AM »

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on October 13, 2010, 01:14:55 AM

Quote from: demi on October 13, 2010, 01:11:27 AM
It's no fun when you try to force it

Pff, that's not what you said last night.

guheehee thats cuz im so used to it~

Raban · « **Reply #88 on:** October 13, 2010, 02:09:34 AM »

Quote from: AdmiralViscen on October 12, 2010, 06:55:12 PM

real reason discovered

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=410000

There will be nothing to say on the matter except "PSP Go sales increase 10,000% from the previous week, becomes top-selling hinged gaming platform in the world."

I want a PSP but the go is so fucking fail and the 3000 is WAY too fucking expensive. After how many goddamn years it's dropped only 1/3 of its launch price? What the fuck?

etiolate · « **Reply #89 on:** October 13, 2010, 02:36:59 AM »

This will just lead to speculative bickering. As long as it stays out of other threads then it won't bug me. Hopefully this will make gaf less alluring to the guttertrash of forums.

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #90 on:** October 13, 2010, 07:29:48 AM »

Oscar, don't you have other more thorough sources anyway?

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #91 on:** October 13, 2010, 08:27:28 AM »

I just wanna know if you think they'll localize Rhythm Tengoku Wii based on the ds games performance!

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #92 on:** October 13, 2010, 08:45:52 AM »

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on October 13, 2010, 08:37:24 AM

Quote from: EmCeeGrammar on October 13, 2010, 08:27:28 AM
I just wanna know if you think they'll localize Rhythm Tengoku Wii based on the ds games performance!

For a logical company, it would be a slam dunk. No clue what Nintendo will do, though.

Thanks as always.

Brehvolution · « **Reply #93 on:** October 13, 2010, 09:15:23 AM »

Damn, just as PS3 was about to start dominating too.

Purple Filth · « **Reply #94 on:** October 13, 2010, 09:32:36 AM »

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on October 13, 2010, 08:23:59 AM

Quote from: EmCeeGrammar on October 13, 2010, 07:29:48 AM
Oscar, don't you have other more thorough sources anyway?

Yes, but it's going to be more important than ever to not say a damn word about them. Knowledge is no fun if you can't flaunt it. :'(

Not even on here?

archie4208 · « **Reply #95 on:** October 13, 2010, 09:47:59 AM »

Quote from: Zero Hero on October 13, 2010, 09:15:23 AM

Damn, just as PS3 was about to start dominating too.

Now it'll dominate even more. Year of the PS3 baby.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #96 on:** October 13, 2010, 10:27:21 AM »

Quote from: Purple Filth on October 13, 2010, 09:32:36 AM

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on October 13, 2010, 08:23:59 AM
Quote from: EmCeeGrammar on October 13, 2010, 07:29:48 AM
Oscar, don't you have other more thorough sources anyway?

Yes, but it's going to be more important than ever to not say a damn word about them. Knowledge is no fun if you can't flaunt it. :'(

Not even on here?

There are already places far more private than here to share numbers. But NPD will put fake numbers into the stuff they give their customers so they can track down leaks. Kind of like cartographers do to stop IP theft.

Himu · « **Reply #97 on:** October 13, 2010, 10:31:38 AM »

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #98 on:** October 13, 2010, 10:42:20 AM »

I fully admit I like sales figures. I like them because numbers and stats help explain the universe. When somebody asks why isn't a sequel to X being made or why aren't there more games like Y, all you have to do is look at the numbers and then generally it makes sense.

Of course it didn't stop there on GAF which is why the sales age talk over there was so annoying for me.

Himu · « **Reply #99 on:** October 13, 2010, 10:46:41 AM »

sales are definitely useful. It's when people take them out of control that it gets beyond ridiculous.

maxy · « **Reply #100 on:** October 13, 2010, 10:57:15 AM »

Who cares about that,nobody is forcing anyone to enter sales threads and debate with fools.Numbers are awesome.

Numbers

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #101 on:** October 13, 2010, 10:58:05 AM »

Quote from: Stringer Bell on October 13, 2010, 10:46:41 AM

sales are definitely useful. It's when people take them out of control that it gets beyond ridiculous.

Well, that's GAF in a nutshell.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #102 on:** October 13, 2010, 10:59:24 AM »

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=23831329&postcount=876

TripleA · « **Reply #103 on:** October 13, 2010, 11:00:36 AM »

Quote from: mojovonio on October 13, 2010, 10:30:34 AM

Holy fuck, Evilore is the biggest fucking baby ever

:nuhuh

Brehvolution · « **Reply #104 on:** October 13, 2010, 11:04:56 AM »

September hardware totals:
PS3: 257,771
360: 457,170
wii: 270,998
DS: 581,296
PSP: 123.437

maxy · « **Reply #105 on:** October 13, 2010, 11:07:46 AM »

source?

Brehvolution · « **Reply #106 on:** October 13, 2010, 11:14:58 AM »

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vgchartz

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Human Snorenado · « **Reply #107 on:** October 13, 2010, 11:23:36 AM »

Quote from: maxy on October 13, 2010, 11:07:46 AM

source?

uranus lolololololol

Himu · « **Reply #108 on:** October 13, 2010, 11:25:59 AM »

Quote from: Great Rumbler on October 13, 2010, 10:58:05 AM

Quote from: Stringer Bell on October 13, 2010, 10:46:41 AM
sales are definitely useful. It's when people take them out of control that it gets beyond ridiculous.

Well, that's GAF in a nutshell.

you act like evilbore is exempt

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #109 on:** October 13, 2010, 11:27:15 AM »

Quote from: Stringer Bell on October 13, 2010, 11:25:59 AM

Quote from: Great Rumbler on October 13, 2010, 10:58:05 AM
Quote from: Stringer Bell on October 13, 2010, 10:46:41 AM
sales are definitely useful. It's when people take them out of control that it gets beyond ridiculous.

Well, that's GAF in a nutshell.

you act like evilbore is exempt

Eb has its flaws but its not remotely as bad as GAF in that aspect. And its generally contained to one NPD thread a month versus GAF where its in every thread.

Himu · « **Reply #110 on:** October 13, 2010, 11:29:13 AM »

Contained to only npd threads if you are pro-xbox, yes.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #111 on:** October 13, 2010, 11:29:59 AM »

In retrospect, getting my account nuked at GAF for making fun of amirox is probably one of the best things to ever happen to me.

Himu · « **Reply #112 on:** October 13, 2010, 11:30:41 AM »

do tell

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #113 on:** October 13, 2010, 11:30:42 AM »

Quote from: Stringer Bell on October 13, 2010, 11:29:13 AM

Contained to only npd threads if you are pro-xbox, yes.

Please dude.

Rarely do you see sales numbers in threads over here. Yes there is a Xbox bias over here because most people play on the xbox over here. But relatively little of it is based around sales age.

Himu · « **Reply #114 on:** October 13, 2010, 11:32:46 AM »

Maybe I'm misconstruing things because methodis and triplea sometimes ruin it for everyone else who isn't on microsoft's dick.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #115 on:** October 13, 2010, 11:33:35 AM »

Quote from: Stoney Mason on October 13, 2010, 11:30:42 AM

Quote from: Stringer Bell on October 13, 2010, 11:29:13 AM
Contained to only npd threads if you are pro-xbox, yes.

Please dude.

Rarely do you see sales numbers in threads over here. Yes there is a Xbox bias over here because most people play on the xbox over here. But relatively little of it is based around sales age.

Out in the real world, too!

Diunx · « **Reply #116 on:** October 13, 2010, 12:44:33 PM »

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on October 13, 2010, 12:44:59 AM

oh no diunx and beezy take issue with my opinion on this

however shall i cope with two fucking loser internet personas losing respect for my fucking loser internet persona

the counseling will cost a small fortune i'm sure

It's okay guys, I learned how to live with people who prefer comfortable ignorance over actual facts. I'll just place beezy and diunx in this little box with Andrex, the train station Mormons, flat-earthers, 9-11 conspiracy theorists, creationists, and Uwe Boll. There we go. Everything in its proper place.

TripleA · « **Reply #117 on:** October 13, 2010, 12:57:55 PM »

Quote from: Stringer Bell on October 13, 2010, 11:32:46 AM

Maybe I'm misconstruing things because methodis and triplea sometimes ruin it for everyone else who isn't on microsoft's dick.

Reality is a hard pill for MicroBots.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #118 on:** October 13, 2010, 01:28:22 PM »

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on October 13, 2010, 12:44:59 AM

oh no diunx and beezy take issue with my opinion on this

however shall i cope with two fucking loser internet personas losing respect for my fucking loser internet persona

the counseling will cost a small fortune i'm sure

It's okay guys, I learned how to live with people who prefer comfortable ignorance over actual facts. I'll just place beezy and diunx in this little box with Andrex, the train station Mormons, flat-earthers, 9-11 conspiracy theorists, creationists, and Uwe Boll. There we go. Everything in its proper place.

demi · « **Reply #119 on:** October 13, 2010, 01:29:20 PM »

Quote from: mojovonio on October 13, 2010, 01:18:49 PM

Himu is so mad

He always is... what a looooser

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