PS VITA thread(embargo over,previews overload)

[Bebpo]

I'm kind of afraid that if they ever put PS2 games on digital download it'll be $20 a game.  ^^;

[MCD]

OLED is organic leds

They are cut from fetus stem cells to create the most beautiful vibrant pixels ever

OLED
Shitty 800x240 WQVGA displays stuck in 1999 Japanese cell phones

SUPER AMOLED is better anyway.

Sammy Focus user here

[Smooth Groove]

Many PS2 games use all 4 shoulder buttons heavily which means that PS2 BC would probably be shit on the PSP2 unless Sony added two more buttons. 

[cool breeze]

If the back touchpad turns out to be real, it won't be a problem.  Just map a tap of the back to R2/L2, and they'd probably need to do the same for L3/R3 (pushing in the stick) assuming they stick with nubs.

[Bebpo]

I actually think the next step after 2 analogue is 4 shoulder buttons for a handheld instead of two.

I mean honestly we've been at 2 analogues + 4 shoulder buttons + 4 face buttons as the norm for over a decade and games/genre have been designed specifically for that control scheme.  It's just baffling why they don't just stick the same control setup on a handheld so devs can make those games without an sacrifices.  Would having a couple of bumpers on the back of a handheld really be so difficult?

Maybe Sony will surprise me and have that.

[Shaka Khan]

After Sony confirms a second analog nub the next thing people will bitch about is the lack of shoulder buttons, because they simply forgot that while your thumbs are busy controlling the sticks on consoles, you rarely reach out to press any directional or face buttons, but mainly rely on the four shoulder buttons. With half the buttons available the controls of the PSP2 will yet again be simplified or other methods to circumvent that problem will arise (which many of us will hate). It's still much better than having one nub, but the whining won't stop. The whining never stops.

[Smooth Groove]

Who the fuck was whining?  Just sayin', as a matter of fact, that PS2 games can't be properly played with only six buttons. 

[Shaka Khan]

No, I think you're absolutely right and I'm with you on that, but constant cries for a second analog may have made it look like it was the only factor hindering PSP games from achieving console-quality control greatness, but that's not entirely true. It's the biggest step though, can't deny that.

[Damian79]

OLED is organic leds

They are cut from fetus stem cells to create the most beautiful vibrant pixels ever

OLED
Shitty 800x240 WQVGA displays stuck in 1999 Japanese cell phones

According to fishie from opa age that isnt true.  Wonder who is right nikkei or fishie.

[Sho Nuff]

Oh, well Fishie, obviously

[Purple Filth]

OLED is organic leds

They are cut from fetus stem cells to create the most beautiful vibrant pixels ever

OLED
Shitty 800x240 WQVGA displays stuck in 1999 Japanese cell phones

According to fishie from opa age that isnt true.  Wonder who is right nikkei or fishie.

this dude is still around?

anyways the 27th should be fun

[Damian79]

I could have sworn in that post that there was a reference to a psp2 touch screen there which is what i was saying isnt true.  Fishie says there is a touch pad in the back fo the psp2.

[cool breeze]

I believe people trust Nikkei because they were right about the 3DS

But at the same time, I think the 1up rumors conflict with the Nikkei rumors about the touch screen and they were right about the PSP Go.

[ch1nchilla]

They'd probably go for $15, like Xbox Originals.  Except for Square, who would charge $25 or something.

Yeah, I think 1200 yen is likely in Japan.
Can't see them going much higher than that, with PS1 games at 600 yen.
I'm actually pretty excited about the concept of being able to get some PS2 games on a handheld. The PS2's library is phenomenally rich in content.

Yes. So much good stuff came out for PS2 that it was hard to keep up (financially as well).

But do you guys know what's going to be really cool?

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$299 msrp

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[maxy]

They will probably have two skus,device will need lots of storage capacity

if i had to guess it would be like this

$299-small storage capacity,upgradable of course
$399-high storage capacity

or maybe(not likely but who knows)
$250
$350

[Damian79]

Am i the only person that thinks $250 is wishful thinking?  No wany would sony sell at that price.  Remember their best selling consoles(ps1 ps2) were priced higher than their competitors.

[Ninja]

$299 is looking like the minimum based on the rumoured specs.

[Shaka Khan]

It's it's anything between $299 and $349, I'll be extremely surprised. I just don't see modern day Sony going for that. Hopefully they learned a few lessons.

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[chronovore]

USD399, "THIS IS GOUGING."

[BlueTsunami]

In regards to pricing, If the PS3 has taught us anything with Sony anything is possible. I'd laugh if this thing is north of $300 but maybe that shouldn't be so surprising see how non-contract subsidized smartphones are like $600.

[cool breeze]

If they try to position the thing more as a tablet the higher prices won't seem as unreasonable.  people are also suggesting that the screen is larger than the original PSP, so larger than 4.3 inch.  That makes it closer to the Dell Streak/Tablets than the iPod Touch/phone/pocket things.

I think $300 is probably the minimum and even that is a stretch.  The only consolation is that the 3DS is overpriced so the PSP2, if sold at a reasonable-for-what-you-get, $300 is a better value.  $300 is also the price of the middle range ipod touch, assuming it is competing with that as well.

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more like FOUR HUNDRED AND NINETY NINE US DOLLARS

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[maxy]

Sony intends to spill its handheld beans at 6:00am UK time on Thursday

The long-awaited announcement of the PSP2 will take place in Tokyo at 6:00am UK time on Thursday January 27th.

The specific time of the press briefing was revealed by Nikkei, as translated by Andriasang.

The meeting itself is being referred to as 'PlayStation Meeting 2011', meaning there may even be news regarding the PS3 on the agenda as well.

However, it's not yet clear whether Sony's detailing will come with an embargo, and the possibility remains that the platform holder may attempt to shush attendees for an unspecified period after the gathering.

Nikkei has expressed its intention to live blog the event, though, suggesting that all information will quickly be made publicly available.

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/42682/Time-set-for-PSP2-meeting

[Damian79]

Am i the only person that thinks $250 is wishful thinking?  No wany would sony sell at that price.  Remember their best selling consoles(ps1 ps2) were priced higher than their competitors.

Yeah but they've never had a competitor as overpriced as the 3DS. $250 is realistic. $200 is wishful thinking.

No the 3do and saturn were overpriced too.  Sony will always go for the higher end.  I'd be very surprised if they didnt.

[pilonv1]

Kotaku sourcless image that claims to be from Sony. Apparently a photoshop



Not bad, not sure what the fascination is with sliding but ok

[Cindi Mayweather]

hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot

[Smooth Groove]

Doesn't it make more sense to protect the screen when it's slid close?  The analog sticks look much better though, like Linkzg predicted. 

[Cindi Mayweather]

Sony really needs to ditch xmb

[MyNameIsMethodis]

thts a fake, who the fuck still needs a memory pro duo adapter

[Van Cruncheon]

fake, why would a capacitive display need a stylus

stupid photoshoppers

[cool breeze]

yeah, it's fake.  the analog nubs are from the special Monster Hunter 3 PSP-3000 that featured a redesigned analog nub and larger batteries.  The face of the phone is from the PSP phone, or Xperia play.  And as Prole mentioned, superior capacitive displays don't require a stylus, or even work with a standard one shown there.

That picture seems really, really suspect.  Why would Sony put an SD card in there?

Sony has been moving towards non-proprietary formats in their devices.

still, shouldn't they use micro sd or whateverthefuck they used for the psp go (m3 or whatever)

[Sho Nuff]

Agreed on the stylus, memory stick (non pro duo -- do those even exist anymore?) being stupid Photoshop giveaways

[Smooth Groove]

Is this real?

[youtube=560,345]NRjSFXayHNE[/youtube]

If so, I might have to get a GO on clearance.

[Sho Nuff]

AFAIK that is real, you can run ISOs on the Go now.

BTW what CFW should I be running on my PSP-2000 these days?

[SantaC]

Kotaku sourcless image that claims to be from Sony. Apparently a photoshop

(Image removed from quote.)

Not bad, not sure what the fascination is with sliding but ok

lol that is a ps1 control photoshopped...

[maxy]

In all likelihood, Sony will announce details of its forthcoming handheld, the PSP 2, at the press conference scheduled for January 27, as we tell you there's a dozen days. In February 2010, we were among the top news sites in the world to discuss the possibility of a touch-back for the PSP 2, Sony.
Based on the statements of knowledgeable sources, we will deliver today a small preview of what time the next Sony's portable will be in the belly. It is likely that this information will be updated and supplemented by the announcement from Sony. Of course, we will keep you informed.
Information taken with caution

Information obtained by 01net. based on a development kit for the PSP 2 (formerly code-named: VETA), also called a PSP2 Debug. This material is given by Sony for certain game development studio called to work on titles for this new platform. Therefore, some elements may change slightly when released on the final business model. This should be the case for example of the appearance, or, to a lesser extent, certain technical characteristics.
But while some details will change, these first reports give a clear idea of what should look like the PSP 2 in store. A commercial version to be released at the end of the year, quite likely in November from the information provided by Sony and deadlines set for developers to complete their games.
Exterior Features
Size: PSP 2 should be less broad but more "high" that the PSP's first name. For the record, the latter showed the dimensions of 17 cm wide by 7.4 cm in height and 2.3 cm thick approximately.
The craft will be imposing, and, according to our sources, he "does not fit into a pocket." Of course, on the back side of the PSP2, we found the touchpad which we told you about last February. No accuracy we have not yet been made about his weight.

Ergonomics: the PSP 2 will have the usual four buttons, two triggers (L and R), a directional pad and above - finally! - Two analog sticks. The presence of a single analog stick was a recurring criticism addressed to the first PSP.
Besides the buttons, the PSP 2 will also offer touch capabilities, both on screen and on the back (trackpad). These surfaces, multipoint tolerate up to six simultaneous pressure points!

Screen: The PSP 2 will incorporate a screen of 5 inches (12.7 cm) Type OLED, probably Sony, but not sure yet. A comfortable size which seems confirmed by our sources, more so than the 4.3 inches (slightly less than 11 cm) of the original screen.

Display resolution: it should be four times that of the PSP, or 960 x 544 pixels. The proportions of the first PSP (which showed 480 x 272 pixels) were retained, suggesting that the console could integrate an emulator for older games.
The inside of the beast
Processor (CPU): it is based on an ARM Cortex A-9 customized by Sony. This quad-core processor may contain a Neon Media Processing Engine (MPE) to accelerate audio and video decompression, but also to improve the performance of floating-point (floating point unit, or FPU). In short, a solution "high performance" and cost in terms of energy consumption, a figure central to a portable console.
Graphics processor (GPU): a PowerVR SGX 543 MP4 +. A quad-core GPU with 128 MB of VRAM (video memory, to be confirmed). This is the first time we see a powerful GPU on a portable machine. We do not yet know the meaning of "+" reference, but we assume it means a specific customized to Sony.
This processor includes pipelines for unified shaders (pixel and vertex, 3D display modes), which should provide greater flexibility and GPU programming. The PowerVR architecture is very different from that adopted by Nvidia and ATI, the two major manufacturers of graphics chips today. It is designed to work in parallel by dividing the areas of the screen. It also includes material management of texture compression and hardware specialist performing the work of a Zbuffer (algorithm eliminating non-visible parts to ease calculation).
For the record, Apple seems to predict, according to the latest rumors, to equip the same type of chip 5 and the iPhone the next generation of iPad. The only difference is that the Cupertino company has opted for a version MP2, so with two hearts only.

RAM: development kits contain 1 GB of RAM. Nevertheless, and in order to run a code not yet optimized, these kits usually include twice more RAM than the retail version. So one might think that the PSP 2 will comprise the final 512 MB of RAM, type LPDDR2 (low consumption), cons for the first 32 MB and 64 MB for PSP PSP GB
Memory storage: the PSP 2 would retain it seems the storage capacity of the PSP Go, namely 16 GB of flash memory. Of course, it will propose an SD card reader and SDHC.
To fight against piracy, we can imagine that Sony will force users to enable online games. In the case of a 3G connection, the Japanese company will then enter into an agreement with the telephone operators. To be confirmed.
Connectivity: The PSP 2 will focus clearly on the wireless. It will offer a module for Wi-Fi and one for 3G. According to our sources, it is also possible to connect the PSP 2 Internet connection sharing - via Bluetooth in all likelihood - with a PlayStation Phone. Of course, these connections enable you to download games from PlayStation Network.

Sound: no certainty for now, we assume that the management of his is included in the CPU (through the function MSE), connected to a digital-analog converter (DAC).

Hardware integrated GPS, gyroscope (doubt is cast by some of our sources do not support this feature), accelerometer, microphone, front and rear cameras.

You people are so demanding

http://www.01net.com/editorial/527269/decouvrez-la-configuration-de-la-psp-2-en-avant-premiere/

[Howard Alan Treesong]

why don't you edit your post to have the translation, maxy

[cool breeze]

a 5 inch screen would be nuts

[Corporal]

unf unf unf

...

Then again, that monster would cost egregious amounts of monetary units. 

[Don Flamenco]

i said goddamn.  quad cores total.  I'm excited about the system, now I need to see some software to seal the deal.  But if it's all DD, this thing can go fuck itself until it's hacked.

[Smooth Groove]

Fake?  'cause PowerVR sucks.  I'm surprised they're still around after getting destroyed by Nvidia and ATI in the PC and console sectors. 

[Corporal]

PowerVR is A-OK in my book. Everything depends on the model though, too lazy to look up the specifics of that particular one. Could be rather assy, could be rather good.

Their main problem has always been the drivers, but with a static hardware target such as a high-volume handheld there shouldn't be many issues.

[maxy]

those specs are like too obvious,so they are either totally fake or true

Little more than a day left,something is bound to leak...this is Sony

[Eel O'Brian]

My guess, two skus:

$299 16GB Wifi-only version

$399-450 32GB 3G version

I do not believe it will have a touch screen, I think the back touch pad will be it as far as touch control goes

there might also be a variation in the screens used between the two skus

[Smooth Groove]

If there's a Wifi only version, I guess Sony won't be implementing that constant DRM check after all.  I doubt they can even enforce occasional online authentication for Wifi only PSPs.  Lots of casuals are gonna be pissed when they can't figure out how to get their PSPs online to play games they've already paid for. 

[Don Flamenco]

My guess, two skus:

$299 16GB Wifi-only version

$399-450 32GB 3G version

I do not believe it will have a touch screen, I think the back touch pad will be it as far as touch control goes

there might also be a variation in the screens used between the two skus

I agree about the wifi/3G skus.  They're going to have a hell of a time convincing me to get that 3G sku.  Like totally free 3G service and DD games only distributed over 3G that launch day and date with retail versions and are also cheaper...even then, I'd probably still opt for the wifi version.  And Sony media services can piss up a flagpole...I really don't care to pay $4.99 to rent a copy of some summer blockbuster.   

From a broader perspective, you have to wonder who they'd target with a 3G device.  Potential iPad customers?  At the end of the day, even if it's fully internet capable with a great browser, you've still got a smaller screen making reading books and watching movies unenjoyable, a bulky form factor preventing it from being a portable music player, and a videogame controller interface to render internet use too annoying to use, unless you're desperate...along with competition that does all of that better.

It's still going to feel like a video game console with a bunch of extra shit you don't use tacked on for bullet points.   

[ManaByte]

iPhone 4 still has a higher resolution screen.

[Raban]

wouldn't 3G enable Monster Hunter 3G ? ... which is a potential game changer in the handheld realm?

Yeah, if this happened, I would sell my soul for a PSP2.

[cool breeze]

iPhone 4 still has a higher resolution screen.

yeah, but it can't be higher without having a much higher horizontal resolution. the iphone 4 is 3:2, not 16:9.  assuming the specs are true, that resolution is probably the sweet spot that they could have aimed for.  but again, 5 inch screen is pretty large.  iphone 4 has a considerably smaller screen, though, higher pixel density.

oh, and there was XMB talk earlier.  If this thing does have touch and other inputs, it would be shocking stupid not to have a new interface, even for Sony.  The XMB is designed for direction inputs like those on a TV remote or game controller.

I thought it was hilarious how they didn't bother changing anything or providing another option for the move.

[Purple Filth]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=25609415

No worries. He also said that the PS3 game that he'd worked on previously was ported to the PSP2 in less than 1 week and it was running at 60FPS.

 

*if true*

[Purple Filth]

  Okay, this thing's going to cost a billion dollars if all this is true, but I gotta appreciate the brass balls and if it's region-free, they've got my vote.

yea 350 and over i say 

[Cindi Mayweather]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=25609415

No worries. He also said that the PS3 game that he'd worked on previously was ported to the PSP2 in less than 1 week and it was running at 60FPS.

 

*if true*

holy fuck

[Purple Filth]

Thanks for backing me up TTP!

I can't tell you what game was ported but it's disc based game.

Thursday is gonna be awesome for a lot of reasons 

[cool breeze]

Haze 

[Purple Filth]

Haze 

 

[Cindi Mayweather]

if the psp is this powerful there's almost no reason for japanese devs to keep developing for ps360 anymore.

handheld future

[Diunx]

Who cares about japanese devs and their shitty outdated games? I wanna shoot some fools on call of duty while waiting for my next class to start

[archie4208]

Can you even afford a PSP2?

[TEEEPO]

i'm not really interested in how powerful the system is. my favorite games for the psp, outside of wipeout and ridge racer, were games like every extend extra and lumines.

i'm more curious about the design, which is what's going to sell me and just about everyone else on the system.

actually, i'm probably already sold on the system. i just want to recreate the psp launch, which was the greatest launch i've ever experience. just holding it in my hands, and playing lumines, ridge racer and wipeout for the first time. brings a tear to my eyes 

[Sho Nuff]

OMG HAX

http://hackaday.com/2005/09/30/gps-nmea-spoofing/

[Smooth Groove]

PSP2 sounds more and more like the modern version of Nomad.  Sony really is the new Sega.