"New" Bioware game

[maxy]

Teaser here

http://kotaku.com/5692132/a-glimpse-at-biowares-next-game

[Stoney Mason]

I wouldn't mind a Mass Effect MP shooter but that doesn't look like Mass Effect so its probably something else. 


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[Himu]

A modern era rpg would really be interesting.

[tiesto]

Yay, more military stuff.

[maxy]

Mass Effect 3 Battlefield Earth

[iconoclast]

FUCK YEAH A MILITARY SHOOTER OMG I'M SO HAPPY THANK YOU BIOWARE

worst generation ever.

[Himu]

Why can't there be an wrpg that takes place in a normal modern setting featuring normal people who are thrown in a fucked up/weird situation?

FUCK YEAH A MILITARY SHOOTER OMG I'M SO HAPPY THANK YOU BIOWARE

worst generation ever.

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[Dickie Dee]

Bioware bought the Alpha Protocol IP and are going to make it worthwhile instead of a buggy ass okay game.

Probably something like a Mass Effect prequel. Or Jade Empire 2 with guns.

That'd be pretty awesome, I don't know too much of the premise of Alpha Protocol (by the time it came on my rader it was already declared a turd) but I liked what little I read up on it. Would be cool to see someone do it right.

[Bebpo]

Bioware bought the Alpha Protocol IP and are going to make it worthwhile instead of a buggy ass okay game.

Probably something like a Mass Effect prequel. Or Jade Empire 2 with guns.

That'd be pretty awesome, I don't know too much of the premise of Alpha Protocol (by the time it came on my rader it was already declared a turd) but I liked what little I read up on it. Would be cool to see someone do it right.

They already did it right the first time.  AP is a really good take on a modern day military/spy rpg.

[Stoney Mason]

lulz at alpha protocol. Wanted to like it. Tried it twice. Put it down both times.

[Great Rumbler]

If it's not an RPG, then I don't care.

[Human Snorenado]

Regardless if the setting sucks, I have faith in BioWare that they'll turn out a good product.  They've yet to disappoint me this gen.

[Herr Mafflard]

looks like another post-apocalyptic shooter, judging from this still in the teaser.



could be a mass effect spin-off shooter, as peeps at gaf are saying the dude looks like he's holding an Incisor rifle
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=24433705&postcount=39

I hope Bioware hasn't taken to heart the good things said about ME2's shooter mechanics and decided to do a straight up action game.

[Great Rumbler]

The combat in ME2 was greatly improved over ME1, but I don't know if a full-blown action game could really stand on its own with a combat system like that. Of course, at this point, it's all just speculation. It could very well be as much of an RPG as ME2.

[Herr Mafflard]

yeah, I just got a really strong 'Killzone' vibe from that teaser.

it's a bioware game, its just gotta have rpg mechanics

[Great Rumbler]

RPG mechanics

I was thinking, though, that Bioware could do something interesting with a full-blown action game. There could be weapons/upgrades to find from fighting enemies, a branching storyline, and dialog choices within a Gears of War-esque framework.

[Positive Touch]

ANNOUNCE ME2 GOLD EDITION FFS

[rodi]

I'm getting sick of these gritty shooters with acog and laser sights mounted on fucking everything. 

[Stoney Mason]

The combat in ME2 was greatly improved over ME1, but I don't know if a full-blown action game could really stand on its own with a combat system like that. Of course, at this point, it's all just speculation. It could very well be as much of an RPG as ME2.

I think the problem is when you make a true hybrid game you don't have enough time to honestly polish both an RPG and a supreme shooter. Look at something like Deus Ex. As great as it was, it was actually a poor shooter. So if the game is mostly just pure action I could potentially see them doing a credible job if they brought in the right people to make the game. If its a hybrid affair the shooting won't be as good as it could be would be my guess.

Makes me respect the fairly good balance they were able to strike with Mass Effect 2.

But basically this boils down to EA trying to create their own Call of Duty level franchise. They will throw as many shooter ideas at the wall until they find one that eventually sticks.  

[Stoney Mason]

What if this is like some Phantom Dust type shit where you go online and fight dudes with crazy powers?

The major reason why I kinda want a Mass Effect style multiplayer game is that I think Mass Effect does a great job of guns and magic via biotic powers. There really isn't a shooter that has that mix currently on the market. It would be kinda kick ass to combine the two in a multiplayer game.

[archie4208]

What if this is like some Phantom Dust type shit where you go online and fight dudes with crazy powers?

The major reason why I kinda want a Mass Effect style multiplayer game is that I think Mass Effect does a great job of guns and magic via biotic powers. There really isn't a shooter that has that mix currently on the market. It would be kinda kick ass to combine the two in a multiplayer game.

Shadowrun? 

[Stoney Mason]

What if this is like some Phantom Dust type shit where you go online and fight dudes with crazy powers?

The major reason why I kinda want a Mass Effect style multiplayer game is that I think Mass Effect does a great job of guns and magic via biotic powers. There really isn't a shooter that has that mix currently on the market. It would be kinda kick ass to combine the two in a multiplayer game.

Shadowrun? 

I mean one that actually will sell and have other people to play with.

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For what its worth I never really played Shadowrun but I always heard good things about it.

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[Herr Mafflard]

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2010/11/17/solving-biowares-code-shattered-steel/

interesting..

[Stinkdog]

Well this looks bland and generic as fuck.

I'll be reserving actual judgment until I at least know what it is, though.

[Yeti]

Alpha Protocol 2: Beta Protocol

[Great Rumbler]

Alpha Protocol 2: Bromega Protocol

Fixed.

[Howard Alan Treesong]

Two Worlds 0: One World

[Mr. Gundam]

ANNOUNCE ME2 GOLD EDITION FFS

They already did, it just happens to be PS3-only at the moment.

[Himu]

The combat in ME2 was greatly improved over ME1, but I don't know if a full-blown action game could really stand on its own with a combat system like that. Of course, at this point, it's all just speculation. It could very well be as much of an RPG as ME2.

You act like ME2 is an rpg.

[Diunx]

Why can't there be an wrpg that takes place in a normal modern setting featuring normal people who are thrown in a fucked up/weird situation?

Because Sci fi/fantasy is far more interesting than some dude with boring ass hand guns and shotguns and shit in an rpg.

[Great Rumbler]

The combat in ME2 was greatly improved over ME1, but I don't know if a full-blown action game could really stand on its own with a combat system like that. Of course, at this point, it's all just speculation. It could very well be as much of an RPG as ME2.

You act like ME2 is an rpg.

It's not?

[Himu]

It really isn't.

In SMT Nocturne, you're a student who witnesses the end of the world and is turned into a demon. He's just a normal dude, thrown in an completely fucked up situation.

Or The Longest Journey: art student is sent to a fantasy world and interacts between two different worlds.

Or Persona 4: mysterious murders appear in town and with your newfound demon powers, find a way to stop the murders by jumping into alternate dimensions inside various television sets.

Far more interesting than standard fantasy or sci fi that makes up the genre and far more relatable in terms of themes of symbolism.

[Himu]

The combat in ME2 was greatly improved over ME1, but I don't know if a full-blown action game could really stand on its own with a combat system like that. Of course, at this point, it's all just speculation. It could very well be as much of an RPG as ME2.

You act like ME2 is an rpg.

It's not?

Fuck no. That game has rpg depth of a Ratchet and Clank game.

[Human Snorenado]

Cool story, bro.  It's also, like, in the top 3 for best game of this gen.  Why don't you and bitter sit down at a table in the corner, order up some whine and let us talk about what's sure to be another quality Bioware game.

[Great Rumbler]

Cool story, bro.  It's also, like, in the top 3 for best game of this gen.  Why don't you and bitter sit down at a table in the corner, order up some whine and let us talk about what's sure to be another quality Bioware game.

Yep. Himu just needs to

[demi]

As long as its not Dragon Age it will turn out ok.

[Diunx]

It really isn't.

In SMT Nocturne, you're a student who witnesses the end of the world and is turned into a demon. He's just a normal dude, thrown in an completely fucked up situation.

Or The Longest Journey: art student is sent to a fantasy world and interacts between two different worlds.

Or Persona 4: mysterious murders appear in town and with your newfound demon powers, find a way to stop the murders by jumping into alternate dimensions inside various television sets.

Far more interesting than standard fantasy or sci fi that makes up the genre and far more relatable in terms of themes of symbolism.

All that sounds like fantasy to me, when you say normal modern setting I think about a cia agent trying to overthrown a government or something like that not tv jumping demon kids.

[Great Rumbler]

Yeah, that's more like "fantasy stuff, but we'll jam it into a real world setting" not really "real world".

[Oblivion]

Regardless if the setting sucks, I have faith in BioWare that they'll turn out a good product.  They've yet to disappoint me this gen.

What about that Sonic RPG.

[Great Rumbler]

Regardless if the setting sucks, I have faith in BioWare that they'll turn out a good product.  They've yet to disappoint me this gen.

What about that Sonic RPG.

Sonic RPG?

[BobFromPikeCreek]

Maybe it's cause I'm riding high on Korean super pills, but that dude's face is hilarious.

[Himu]

Cool story, bro.  It's also, like, in the top 3 for best game of this gen.  Why don't you and bitter sit down at a table in the corner, order up some whine and let us talk about what's sure to be another quality Bioware game.

Mass Effect 2 owns, I never disputed that. I dispute calling it an rpg, however.

[Great Rumbler]

Cool story, bro.  It's also, like, in the top 3 for best game of this gen.  Why don't you and bitter sit down at a table in the corner, order up some whine and let us talk about what's sure to be another quality Bioware game.

Mass Effect 2 owns, I never disputed that. I dispute calling it an rpg, however.

You could argue that it's a hybrid, but it's still an RPG.

[Human Snorenado]

PAC MAN IS AN RPG

[Eel O'Brian]

Why don't you and bitter sit down at a table in the corner, order up some whine

totally stealing that line

[cool breeze]

Mass Effect 2 is a shooter and a really good one and better than that jankass 'hybrid' first game.

[chronovore]

Those graphics are sick; that's pre-rendered stuff, right?

It really isn't.

In SMT Nocturne, you're a student who witnesses the end of the world and is turned into a demon. He's just a normal dude, thrown in an completely fucked up situation.

Or The Longest Journey: art student is sent to a fantasy world and interacts between two different worlds.

Or Persona 4: mysterious murders appear in town and with your newfound demon powers, find a way to stop the murders by jumping into alternate dimensions inside various television sets.

Far more interesting than standard fantasy or sci fi that makes up the genre and far more relatable in terms of themes of symbolism.

So it's not a role-playing game because you don't like the story in which the role is played?

[maxy]

Yeah prerendered stuff

Most likely rumor
multiplayer oriented Mass Effect spinoff made by Bioware Montreal

via Kotaku

That Mass Effect game is not a massively multiplayer online version of BioWare's sci-fi RPG series, but a game that's designed to appeal more to the Call of Duty market, according to that source. We're told to expect player progression in the vein of Activision's wildly popular online shooter along with some sort of single-player component that does not feature Mass Effect's Commander Shepard in a leading role.

So yeah,COD in space...space marines

EA probably wants to be first with "COD in space" type game,Activision has one in the making

[pilonv1]

Why don't you and bitter sit down at a table in the corner, order up some whine

totally stealing that line

that's tremendous

[Himu]

Those graphics are sick; that's pre-rendered stuff, right?

It really isn't.

In SMT Nocturne, you're a student who witnesses the end of the world and is turned into a demon. He's just a normal dude, thrown in an completely fucked up situation.

Or The Longest Journey: art student is sent to a fantasy world and interacts between two different worlds.

Or Persona 4: mysterious murders appear in town and with your newfound demon powers, find a way to stop the murders by jumping into alternate dimensions inside various television sets.

Far more interesting than standard fantasy or sci fi that makes up the genre and far more relatable in terms of themes of symbolism.

So it's not a role-playing game because you don't like the story in which the role is played?

No, that was two different conversations. This was towards diunx and his idea that fantasy/sci fi are the only worthwhile settings in rpgs.

[Himu]

Mass Effect 2 is a shooter and a really good one and better than that jankass 'hybrid' first game.

SOMEONE GETS IT

[Great Rumbler]

"Mass Effect 2 has real-time action-based combat, therefore it cannot be an RPG."

[Diunx]

Those graphics are sick; that's pre-rendered stuff, right?

It really isn't.

In SMT Nocturne, you're a student who witnesses the end of the world and is turned into a demon. He's just a normal dude, thrown in an completely fucked up situation.

Or The Longest Journey: art student is sent to a fantasy world and interacts between two different worlds.

Or Persona 4: mysterious murders appear in town and with your newfound demon powers, find a way to stop the murders by jumping into alternate dimensions inside various television sets.

Far more interesting than standard fantasy or sci fi that makes up the genre and far more relatable in terms of themes of symbolism.

So it's not a role-playing game because you don't like the story in which the role is played?

No, that was two different conversations. This was towards diunx and his idea that fantasy/sci fi are the only worthwhile settings in rpgs.

But everything that you mentioned is fantasy...

[Himu]

Those graphics are sick; that's pre-rendered stuff, right?

It really isn't.

In SMT Nocturne, you're a student who witnesses the end of the world and is turned into a demon. He's just a normal dude, thrown in an completely fucked up situation.

Or The Longest Journey: art student is sent to a fantasy world and interacts between two different worlds.

Or Persona 4: mysterious murders appear in town and with your newfound demon powers, find a way to stop the murders by jumping into alternate dimensions inside various television sets.

Far more interesting than standard fantasy or sci fi that makes up the genre and far more relatable in terms of themes of symbolism.

So it's not a role-playing game because you don't like the story in which the role is played?

No, that was two different conversations. This was towards diunx and his idea that fantasy/sci fi are the only worthwhile settings in rpgs.

But everything that you mentioned is fantasy...

Fantasy in a non-generic setting.

"Mass Effect 2 has real-time action-based combat, therefore it cannot be an RPG."

"Mass Effect 2 has the rpg depth of a Ratchet and Clank game, therefore it cannot be an rpg."

Let's be real here, Mass Effect 1 is an rpg. It has a whole slew of customization systems, loot (even if it's shit) and more. I cannot say the same for ME2. It is more like a third person shooter with quests, so basically, more in the vein of an action adventure than an rpg.

That's not to say that's a bad thing, not at all. ME2 benefited heavily from this more streamlined approach. But it is no longer an rpg. There's a vast difference between being an element and being a full fleshed out feature. As it stands, ME2 is an action adventure with rpg elements.

Still doesn't change the fact it's in the top 5 games this gen.

[Great Rumbler]

Sorry, to me it's still an RPG. As much as just about any American RPG in the past five or six years that isn't name Dragon Age.

[Himu]

Other American rpgs from the past 5 years? Like what? Fallout 3, for instance, has an incredible amount of depth in terms of customization, stats, loot, exploration, all the definable aspects that define an rpg.

If you think people who don't think ME2 is an rpg is due to the shooting then...

[Great Rumbler]

It's got leveling and quests. Sounds like an RPG to me.

[cool breeze]

so, Modern Warfare 2 multiplayer is the best rpg since GTA San Andreas, right?

The ME1 to ME2 thing reminds me of Resident Evil 4.  You had people complaining that it wasn't survival horror anymore, others that were trying to defend it by saying it still was, and at the end of the day it didn't mean jack shit because it is one of the best games ever.

[TripleA]

Mass Effect Genesis 

[Raban]

ME2, a game where you play an actual role in the storyline, is not an RPG but FF is an rpg series.

You can split hairs all day long, but no matter which way you look at it, ME2 isn't an RPG. Whether or not that's a bad thing is up for debate, but it's pretty clear ME2 is as much of an RPG as Crackdown is.